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jmcquown - 20 Mar 2005 07:25 GMT
I'm going to my brother's house tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM (Central Time).
I shouldn't be worried about this except it is difficult sometimes for me to
venture into the world of "family".  I had to make an appointment! so he'd
be able to plan the rest of his day.  Maybe he's going golfing or out to
brunch or something.

He is going to pay off a credit card bill for me.  #1, I did NOT ask him to
do this; in fact I tried to dissuade him several times.  #2, I told him I
cannot pay him back, so we aren't gonna be on Judge Judy in 2 years
squabbling over a "loan" (I'll make sure the check says GIFT in the memo
line and make a copy of it).  #3, I told him I don't want him pulling a
"Dad" and holding this over my head for 30 years any time we have a dispute
(as in, "I paid off your credit card 20 years ago!")  I will NOT be guilt
tripped.  I didn't ask him to do this.

(huge sigh)  It's not that I don't appreciate it, but somehow I feel I'll
regret accepting his generosity.  Why can't I just accept the fact maybe he
wants to help his little sister who has fallen on hard times?

Jill
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I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.

Hopitus - 20 Mar 2005 07:38 GMT
Your bro sure sounds accomodating & non-judgemental.
Having "family" help you out will sure save you paying
ridiculous interest rates from the cards. I'd say your big
task now is to lay off the cards; I know - personally - it's
hard, but why make some megabank richer @ your
expense? Great to have a generous bro...let it go at that.
Best wishes for your future financial indepence.

> I'm going to my brother's house tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM (Central
> Time).
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> Jill
Hopitus - 20 Mar 2005 07:39 GMT
Whoa....last word "independence"!

> Your bro sure sounds accomodating & non-judgemental.
> Having "family" help you out will sure save you paying
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>> Jill
jmcquown - 20 Mar 2005 07:49 GMT
> Your bro sure sounds accomodating & non-judgemental.
> Having "family" help you out will sure save you paying
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> expense? Great to have a generous bro...let it go at that.
> Best wishes for your future financial indepence.

I layed off the cards the minute I lost my job last April.  In fact, this
card has credit protection insurance which the company finally approved and
so they backed out the interest charges and no payments are due and no
interest or late fees will accrue and no reporting to the credit bureaus.
I'm still paying them even though I don't have to.

However, my brother IS very judgemental - and sort of well... as I said, I
had to make an appointment with him.  LOL

Jill

>> I'm going to my brother's house tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM (Central
>> Time).
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>> I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.
Tanada - 20 Mar 2005 21:05 GMT
> However, my brother IS very judgemental - and sort of well... as I said, I
> had to make an appointment with him.  LOL

Can you say anal retentive?  I knew you could.

Pam S.
Jo Firey - 20 Mar 2005 07:48 GMT
> I'm going to my brother's house tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM (Central
> Time).
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> he
> wants to help his little sister who has fallen on hard times?

I always got along beautifully with my brother.  We trusted each other
absolutely etc.  I thought he was darn near perfect, and he let me.   But
this would have been a very hard thing for me to do with him, so I can only
imagine how hard this is for you.  But sometimes you have to do what you
have to do.  When you get back home, I hope Persia will be a good and
snuggly cat and make you feel all better as soon as possible.

Jo
-L. - 20 Mar 2005 08:23 GMT
> I'm going to my brother's house tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM (Central Time).

Good luck.  Don't sweat it.  We have done this for relatives a couple
of times.  We generally don't give money unless we don't expect to get
it back.  Your brother sounds like an ok dude. :)

-L.
Melissa Houle - 20 Mar 2005 09:04 GMT
> I'm going to my brother's house tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM (Central Time).
> I shouldn't be worried about this except it is difficult sometimes for me to
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> --
> I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.

Jill,

Maybe the reason red flags are waving for you is because family history, and
knowledge of your father and brother are warning you to be careful.  On the
positive side, it does help you out of a jam.  On the negative side,
well..... you don't want this to be thrown back in your face for the next
twenty years, or have it held over your head: "You say you can't do X, Y or
Z for me, after I paid off your credit card five years ago???"  (I can feel
for you. My Dad and sometimes my siblings, and to be just, myself, can be so
judgemental I sometimes think it's a miracle we're not all on the Federal
Bench.) However, it sounds to me as if you are doing everything you can to
protect yourself from the eventualities you mentioned. It's kind of a shame
you feel you HAVE to exercise this sort of emotional self-defence, though.
Perhaps  it's good to start with giving your brother the benefit of every
doubt that you can, and assume his true motivation IS generosity and a wish
to  help his sister out of a tight spot. He can hardly have helped notice
that you are not the only person out of work in America, right now.

Good luck, and I hope Persia will be on hand with soothing purrs when you
come home.

Melissa
Hopitus - 20 Mar 2005 16:05 GMT
Yes, yes, cats don't care how much is in your wallet as
long as there is something in their food bowl.....and not
even judgemental then! I know Persia is more than a
great fuzzy comfort at all times.

>> I'm going to my brother's house tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM (Central
> Time).
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> Melissa
Charleen Welton - 20 Mar 2005 21:16 GMT
> > I'm going to my brother's house tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM (Central
> Time).
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>
> Melissa

Jill,

I was trying to put  together the words to say to you when I read Melissa's
post.  That is just what I would have said.  Family history can be akward,
sometimes feeling tricky when it isn't.  Please remember that Feelings Are
Not Facts.  It may feel as though they are but they are not and near to be
viewed from a distance and with a dispassionate heart.  Having the past come
back to bite you is a horrible feeling and not knowing you or your family I
can't suggest what you can say to them when they tell you about they did for
you 10 years ago.  I/we hope and purr for you that there is a change in your
family's attitude toward love, caring, shareing, belonging, giving and
kindness and you are the beneficiary.

Charleen
Tanada - 20 Mar 2005 21:16 GMT
> (huge sigh)  It's not that I don't appreciate it, but somehow I feel I'll
> regret accepting his generosity.  Why can't I just accept the fact maybe he
> wants to help his little sister who has fallen on hard times?

My sympathy, Jill.  I would NEVER EVER borrow so much as a cup of sugar
from most of my family.  They're terrible.  The only one that I could
trust on something like that is my cat owned sister in Seattle.  However
they have their own problems and the last thing they'd need to have is
me asking for money.

However, when we went back to Idaho last summer, Rob's parents paid for
a brake job, and radiator hose repair on the van and then gave us
traveling cash.  When I tried to make re-payment arrangements, I was
told to forget it.  They wouldn't even tell us the amounts and wouldn't
let us see the bills.  Sigh.  And then she does something off the wall
like telling me that Jim is a user and that Mandy needs to get rid of him.

Pam S.
polonca12000 - 20 Mar 2005 23:28 GMT
Good luck and best wishes,
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Polonca & Soncek

> I'm going to my brother's house tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM (Central Time).
> I shouldn't be worried about this except it is difficult sometimes for me to
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> He is going to pay off a credit card bill for me.  <snip>
Sam Nash - 20 Mar 2005 23:38 GMT
> I'm going to my brother's house tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM (Central
> Time).
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> be able to plan the rest of his day.  Maybe he's going golfing or out to
> brunch or something.
Late with this, but I hope it went well, with no down-side after-effects.
Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
jmcquown - 20 Mar 2005 23:49 GMT
> I'm going to my brother's house tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM (Central
> Time). I shouldn't be worried about this except it is difficult
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> told him I cannot pay him back #3, I told him I don't
> want him pulling a "Dad" and holding this over my head for 30 years

Update:  All went well.  The only thing which may have been an "admonition"
was when he said, "You don't have any other surprises like this, do you?"
Hey, it wasn't a surprise to me, I knew I had the bill! LOL  He loaned me a
couple of DVD's and we talked for a bit.  It was fairly painless (at least
up to this point).  Thanks for all the good wishes!

Jill
CatNipped - 21 Mar 2005 01:17 GMT
> > I'm going to my brother's house tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM (Central
> > Time). I shouldn't be worried about this except it is difficult
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>
> Jill

I'm so glad it went well, Jill.  I'm sorry I didn't post in time to give you
good wishes and purrs - I've been trying to spend as much time with Bandit
as possible since I have to go back to work tomorrow, so I'm woefully behind
on reading the group.  Anyway, belated purrs that things will *stay* well
between you.

Hugs,

CatNipped
jmcquown - 21 Mar 2005 01:34 GMT
>>> I'm going to my brother's house tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM (Central
>>> Time). I shouldn't be worried about this except it is difficult
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>
> CatNipped

Oh, not a problem.  I can't respond to all the posts and I don't have a hurt
kitty!  Everyone in this group is more than generous with purrs and
well-wishes.  I hope Bandit continues to improve rapidly and that your cut
finger isn't too bad.

Jill
hobbs - 24 Mar 2005 09:55 GMT
Good luck Jill I am sure everything will be Ok, My son wanted to do this for
mea few yrs ago so I told him he had enough to do looking after
his family, but if ever I got desperateI would be ringing him first
                Jean.P.
> I'm going to my brother's house tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM (Central Time).
> I shouldn't be worried about this except it is difficult sometimes for me to
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> --
> I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.

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