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One cat or double trouble........ your opinion please straw poll
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Brad - 17 Mar 2005 11:14 GMT I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I would like to know how many people own one cat or more. I don't care if you have fifteen I just want to know one or more than one and I guess if you have one and absolutely want another one put your answer as more than one.
I am still in the planning stages of getting a cat and have been hearing here and there that I should get two cats, some have made me feel like I won't be treating my cat right if I don't have a friend for him to play with. I really only wanted one but wonder if I am doing the right thing only getting one not even to mention that all of my expenses would be doubled. I want a Siamese very badly and thought I would get his friend from a shelter or rescue as I don't really want to pay the price of buying two pure breds.
If you care to mention why you own one or more obviously you can do that but please if nothing else give me a 1 or more than 1, I was just thinking I should also include a 0 in case anymore wierdos like me are here that don't own a cat. If anyone wants to know the tally at the end I will be happy to post it after a few days of no responses to the thread.
I may as well tell you my reason I wanted only one is that I live alone and I want a cat for companionship which I may lose of bit of if I own two cats or maybe I will have twice as much companionship with 2 huh??
Brad
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Helen Miles - 17 Mar 2005 11:22 GMT > I may as well tell you my reason I wanted only one is that I live > alone and I want a cat for companionship which I may lose of bit of if > I own two cats or maybe I will have twice as much companionship with 2 > huh??/// I live on my own, and I have 3 cats. Personally, I would never just have one. They all get on very well, and are company for each other when I'm not here. They also love to play with each other as well as me getting 3 x the love of one cat!
I would say that if you are thinking of getting a siamese, then your idea of getting a cat from a shelter too is a good one. But I have an even better idea.... why not contact siamese rescue and get TWO rescue cats? You'd still have your pure-bred, but you will have also rescued 2 cats. :o)
Helen M (Who realises she has automatically assumed that Brad will get 2 cats <g>)
Steve Touchstone - 18 Mar 2005 11:42 GMT <snip>
>I would say that if you are thinking of getting a siamese, then your >idea of getting a cat from a shelter too is a good one. But I have an >even better idea.... why not contact siamese rescue and get TWO rescue >cats? You'd still have your pure-bred, but you will have also rescued 2 >cats. :o) An excellent idea. From what I hear, you can sometimes find pure breds in shelters, so don't forget to check before paying a breeded. Also, two cats don't neccessarily mean double the price.
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Debbie Wilson - 17 Mar 2005 11:44 GMT > I may as well tell you my reason I wanted only one is that I live > alone and I want a cat for companionship which I may lose of bit of if > I own two cats or maybe I will have twice as much companionship with 2 > huh?? Well, I've got 4 and each one has their own unique purr-sonality. They enjoy the company of their cat-family and their human family in different ways - they wrestle and groom each other, play games etc, and get their cuddles and different games from us :-) I would always say it's kinder to have two of the same species living together, as long as they get along OK. I have all 4 of mine insured with pet insurance to cover the unexpected bills, and budget for the routine ones.
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Sandra - 17 Mar 2005 11:51 GMT i have two - tried having one but he got lonely at night when there were no humans to play with.
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Lorraine - 17 Mar 2005 12:13 GMT >I want a Siamese very badly and thought >I would get his friend from a shelter or rescue as I don't really want >to pay the price of buying two pure breds. Check here first -- http://www.siameserescue.org/
> if >I own two cats or maybe I will have twice as much companionship with 2 >huh?? Yep.
I have three.
L.
Yowie - 17 Mar 2005 12:25 GMT > I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I > would like to know how many people own one cat or more. I don't care > if you have fifteen I just want to know one or more than one and I > guess if you have one and absolutely want another one put your answer > as more than one. IMHO, an older cat who will be content to sleep most of the day and only have a small amount of human interaction is OK as an "only cat", and depending on the personality of the cat, some are definatley solo cats as they won't tolerate another cat in their territory .
However, if you are away for long periods during the day, and want an active cat or kitten, I'd get two - prefferably litter mates - just so they can keep each other entertained during the day. A bored cat with energy to burn can be remarkably destructive when he of she needs to 'entertain' themselves.
If you go to a rescue organisation, and see two cats who get along together at the shelter, I'd reccommend you get both. You get twice the loving, have the joy of watching them interact, the work is not much more, and most of all, they can keep each other amused when you can't. This is *very* important when you don't always have time to entertain them whenever *they* want.
Yowie
Ted Davis - 17 Mar 2005 12:28 GMT >I may as well tell you my reason I wanted only one is that I live >alone and I want a cat for companionship which I may lose of bit of if >I own two cats or maybe I will have twice as much companionship with 2 >huh?? I have had single cats, and I have had 2, 3, 4, and many. One doesn't seem to be very desirable - singletons just seem to lie around a lot and require my attention when I can't give it. Two are good for several reasons: if they get along well, they will keep each other amused; there is a better chance that one of them wants petting when you want to pet them; if one dies, you are not completely out of companionship. What seems to work best is either a pair that have always been together, or first an adult, then a kitten.
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Nanny - 17 Mar 2005 12:42 GMT If you aren't home with your cat each and every day it's better to have more than 1, as an only cat will depend on you totally and will let you know that too :-) And 2 or more cats will love you just as much when you're home with them.
Nanny
> I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I > would like to know how many people own one cat or more. I don't care [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, > SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" Karen - 17 Mar 2005 13:10 GMT Two at least. There are cats out there that like being alone, but I would always have at least two. They keep each other company when you are not there and they are not much more trouble or expense than one. Usually shelters have some pair that should go together anyway because they are friends. They are more fun to watch and yes, they still want individual attention. I see absolutely NO cons to having two cats and if you have none and get two that know each other there are no "introducing" problems. What area are you in? People may know of a Siamese rescue to send you to. Be aware Siamese are really characters and often are talkers.
Cheryl Perkins - 17 Mar 2005 13:21 GMT More than one. I had one initially, then got another and didn't regret it at all.
I fully intended to get a siamese both times, too! And actually, if the breeder I contacted when I adopted the first one was going to have kittens available soon, I still probably would have fallen for the abandoned no pedigree tabby cat I adopted second. It isn't an either/or issue; only pedigreed or only domestic cats.
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Exocat - 17 Mar 2005 13:27 GMT I have 2, 3 until recently.
My view is that you shouldn't have just one unless you're at home all day practically every day. Especially with Asian cats (Siamese/Burmese etc) who are so companionable.
You'll have no shortage of love & attention with a pair, providing you treat 'em right!
Best wishes for your rescue (of 2).
Gordon Bandit Snowball
> I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I > would like to know how many people own one cat or more. melizabeth - 17 Mar 2005 14:27 GMT I have one. She is fine on her own during the day and is able to entertain herself...by sleeping. I got her when she was a year old, so I did not have the crazy kitty phase.
Seanette Blaylock - 18 Mar 2005 03:32 GMT "melizabeth" <chris1031@btinternet.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: One cat or double trouble........ your opinion please straw poll:
>I have one. She is fine on her own during the day and is able to entertain >herself...by sleeping. I got her when she was a year old, so I did not have >the crazy kitty phase. I got my current cat when he was about two (shelter adoptee, so age can't be certain). I was a full-time homemaker for about 7 years, and AFAICT, Felix's main hobby is sleeping ;-). He's always been a bit on the sedentary side.
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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL JBHajos - 17 Mar 2005 14:44 GMT >I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I >would like to know how many people own one cat or more. We're currently owned by two kitties - have never had less than that. The largest number living with us at one time was seven, each loved, and loving, equally. Actually, IMO, the more, the merrier!!
Jeanne
jmcquown - 17 Mar 2005 15:22 GMT > I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I > would like to know how many people own one cat or more. (snippage)
> I may as well tell you my reason I wanted only one is that I live > alone and I want a cat for companionship which I may lose of bit of if > I own two cats or maybe I will have twice as much companionship with 2 > huh?? > > Brad I have a slightly different take. I have one cat. I was 'acquired' by her and the vet guessed she was two or three years old. But you see, she's one of those cats who doesn't get along with other cats. If she sees one on my patio she goes ballistic. She's also old enough to be sedentary and not require my constant attention (although when she wants it she certainly lets me know). So I don't believe I could successfully integrate another cat into my household without causing her undue stress. I think it depends a lot on the personality of the cat as well as the age of the cat.
Having said all that, if you decide to adopt 2, as others have suggested try to get littermates or at least 2 who are already getting along at the shelter or rescue organization. And yes, it will double your expenses for food, litter, shots, etc.
Someone else mentioned pet insurance - you might check that out. Also check with the vet you plan to use because not all vets accept pet insurance.
Jill
Dan M - 17 Mar 2005 15:28 GMT > I may as well tell you my reason I wanted only one is that I live > alone and I want a cat for companionship which I may lose of bit of if > I own two cats or maybe I will have twice as much companionship with 2 > huh?? > > Brad More than one. Five to be exact - four that live at home with my wife and one who travels with me in the semi.
My experience has been that more than one cat is best. That allows the kitties to keep each other company while you are away, and gives you twice as much (or more) fun when you get home to them.
Kreisleriana - 17 Mar 2005 15:36 GMT >I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I >would like to know how many people own one cat or more. I don't care >if you have fifteen I just want to know one or more than one and I >guess if you have one and absolutely want another one put your answer >as more than one. A few of us have single cats, but there are probably reasons preventing us from haivng more than one. I have one, who was originally one of two-- and definitely the Number Two cat on the totem pole. He was a sweet cat, and very submissive. When Cat No. 1 went to RB, Stinky was lonely at first, but with all the attention to himself, his personality really blossomed, and he just kind of grew into the role of Prince of the House. He had spent all his life under the other cat's paw, so to speak. Now that he is older (14), and has become used to being a single cat, I am hesitant to bring in another one, and I also live with someone who probably wouldn't like it.
But my naturally preferred state would be to have more than one. I just think Stinky is kind of exceptional-- he has really thrived on being an only cat, and I want him to continue to enjoy all the attention for as long as he's around.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Mar 2005 18:19 GMT > A few of us have single cats, but there are probably reasons preventing us > from haivng more than one. I have one, who was originally one of two-- and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and has become used to being a single cat, I am hesitant to bring in another > one, and I also live with someone who probably wouldn't like it. Eros' original owner said something to this effect about her other cat, Taffy. With Eros out of the picture, Taffy became much more affectionate and cuddly, much more of a people cat than she used to be. Eros was a definite lover, but I think he had such a big personality that it could really overshadow most cats.
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-L. - 17 Mar 2005 16:18 GMT > I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I > would like to know how many people own one cat or more. More than one. Cats are social. -L.
Debra Berry - 17 Mar 2005 17:41 GMT Hi Brad,
I have 4 cats and am very fortunate that they get along and enjoy playing with each other. There are some cats that prefer to live as a single cat, although you usually don't know that when they are kittens. There is a Siamese Rescue group on-line that has several locations in the US and has pictures/descriptions of their cats on line at http://www.siameserescue.org/gallery.html They have some kittens, but most are adults and some specify that the cat wants to live as a single cat. Maybe you can find one of those who would fit into your household. Take a look! You won't get papers and most aren't show quality, but it is always better to rescue a cat that needs a home than it is to buy from a breeder when you just want a pet.
Good luck, Debbie Berry dberry@mitre.org
> I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I > would like to know how many people own one cat or more. I don't care [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, > SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" Karen - 17 Mar 2005 19:03 GMT Oh. My. God. HOW MEAN CAN PEOPLE BE!!!!!!
Booboo:
"My two feline companions that I was very bonded to died of old age a few months before I entered rescue and I was having a really hard time adjusting to them being gone. I felt so sad and alone and like no one understood. My family decided to replace my buddies with a new puppy and cat and when I didn't adjust to the new additions fast enough they decided to take me to the shelter :-(. I thought they were going to help me to work through my grief and sorrow but instead I was traded in for newer, more fun models. "
> Hi Brad, > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, > > SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" Helen Miles - 17 Mar 2005 19:00 GMT > Oh. My. God. HOW MEAN CAN PEOPLE BE!!!!!! > > Booboo: <snipped very sad story>
My GOD! I can't even comprehend doing that to a so called bloeved animal companion.
Helen M
jmcquown - 17 Mar 2005 21:05 GMT >> Oh. My. God. HOW MEAN CAN PEOPLE BE!!!!!! >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Helen M I think some people get pets to "entertain" their children. Puppies and kittens are cute so why worry about what the older cat thought or felt at the loss of the companions? These people gave no thought to the cats feelings at all - I gather they just plopped down a puppy and a new cat and said here, get along with them or out you go. That's very sad.
I would never introduce Persia to a new cat (and certainly not to a puppy!) like this. She's a solitary cat. She might be persuaded to like another cat (she sure doesn't mind or bother my lovebird) if introduced properly. I don't really think so, but if I did they would be gradually introduced.
Jill
Enfilade - 18 Mar 2005 03:18 GMT > My GOD! I can't even comprehend doing that to a so called bloeved animal > companion. Some humans suck beyond belief.
When DP's a doctor, we intend to adopt an older cat at some point, to give some unfortunate the retirement s/he deserves.
Nox we got at age 9 months since we were students on a limited income. We hoped for an animal that would be healthy for a long time. (Nox needed emergency surgery and you know, the idea of taking her back to the shelter for another cat didn't cross our minds...) The other three we had no choice about ;)
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Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Mar 2005 18:17 GMT > I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I would > like to know how many people own one cat or more. I don't care if you have [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Brad I hesitate to post, but ...
I thought that Oscar was bored sitting at home all day, so I went out and got Eros. Now, I suspected that Oscar might not be a team player, so I did ask for assurance that I could bring Eros back if it didn't work out ...
Anyway, it was a disaster. Oscar had never lived with other cats and hid from Eros. She was absolutely miserable. In the end, we couldn't keep Eros.
Now, I'll admit that I was impatient and didn't follow the rules of cat introduction; I just kind of plopped Eros down and hoped for the best. I might have tried reintroduction from scratch, but my husband was also allergic to Eros and so it was just better for all concerned to get Eros out of the house ASAP.
All of that being said, it very much depends on the cat. If I had it to do over again, I'd get a second kitten while Oscar was still young and malleable. If Oscar turns out not to be immortal for some reason, if I got another cat at all, I'd probably get two at the same time. Many shelters have cats who already like each other or at least are known to like other cats. Why would I do that? Because I feel that there's plenty of room in our house and our hearts for more than one cat, and right now I feel bad that I can't give another cat a home. I think the transition from only cat to two cats is much harder on a cat than the transition from two cats to more cats.
I think the question of whether two cats will be twice as much companionship very much depends on the cats' personalities.
I ended up buying Oscar a cat tree, some more toys, and reserving more play time for her, and she likes this setup much better than she liked having Eros around.
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Karen - 17 Mar 2005 19:06 GMT > I hesitate to post, but ... > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > to Eros and so it was just better for all concerned to get Eros out of the > house ASAP. And that is the key. Adding a NEW cat takes time and effort. Plus if he gets two that need to get adopted together (very often found) or litter mates there will be no problem.
> All of that being said, it very much depends on the cat. If I had it to do > over again, I'd get a second kitten while Oscar was still young and malleable. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > time for her, and she likes this setup much better than she liked having Eros > around. Susan M - 17 Mar 2005 18:24 GMT I have two and the first is a Siamese cross. He absolutely could not *stand* being the only cat. Siamese are such sociable involved cats that they need a friend while you are out of the house. The idea of the Siamese Rescue is fantastic. I used to regularly go online and drool over all the rescue kitties available. http://www.siameserescue.org/
Susan M Otis and Chester (and I would like another one but my son is allergic)
> I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I > would like to know how many people own one cat or more. I don't care [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, > SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" Richard Miller - 17 Mar 2005 19:38 GMT We have two:
We got Jemima and Jasper as a mother and son pair. She was about eighteen months, him about nine - still a kitten, but a kitten who exploded and grew into a big, strong, handsome cat. We sadly lost Jem just over a year later. She was very affectionate and cuddlesome, whilst Jasper was a bit more reserved, and much more of an outdoorsy type of cat. So we got Carrie to be the resident lap fungus. At first the fights weren't pretty, but they've settled down into a regime of tolerance.
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Katz - 17 Mar 2005 21:29 GMT > LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A > WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, > SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" ;o) I like your siggy.
OK. I'm with Jill & Theresa in that my view is a little different. Twenty-six years ago I got Bonnie & Clyde, littermates, as kittens. They got along tolerably but were not really friends. At least they were smart enough to curl up toether in cold weather. But Clyde had a few pounds on Bonnie, & he was dominant. He would sometimes beat her up, which I hated. Both were very affectionate w/me. Clyde died at age 13, and as somebody else said, Bonnie came into her own. I had told myself that if one died young, I'd get another, but that if they were fairly old when the first one died, I wouldn't bring a new upstart in to upset the older one's life. For her remaining 3 years, Bonnie was a happy kitty w/all the Mommy time to herself. The only problem w/not bringing in another one was that it left me alone when Bonnie died. Not a good thing. :( Nobody to come home to after that last trip to the vet.
Then I adopted 3 unrelated adult females all on the same day, w/no opportunity to find out whether they would get along. I didn't know then about introduction methods, & would not have been able to separate the 3 anyway. It worked very badly. Abby turned out to be extremely dominant. Daisy & Miss Moxie lived under the furniture in order to avoid her. It was an awful situation. I desperately looked for a new home for Abby, but couldn't find anybody I trusted. Then 1 night while I was at work, Abby died suddenly of unknown causes. Sadly for me & Abby, happily for D & M, this solved the worst problems. Now little Moxie is dominant & harasses Daisy several times a day, but it's nothing like it was with Abby. Daisy is afraid of Moxie, & of other cats. Moxie hates everybody except me. They would both be better as only cats.
This time, I don't know what I'll do if Daisy dies first. She's almost 12; Moxie is almost 8. Moxie is not at all affectionate. So honestly, I wouldn't be very happy if she was my only cat. I would miss COL (cat on lap).
So, that was a very long-winded answer to a simple question. Good luck.
katz
Pat - 18 Mar 2005 02:59 GMT Six. Started with two, Baby Eyes and Tubs, but when he was about 9 months old Tubs decided to move back to his foster mom's down the road (dunno why) so Baby Eyes was lonely and I got Tommy to keep her company. Then I thought, what if something happens to one of them, the other will be without a buddy, so I when my local Abyssinian breeder called about a reject kitten with a bad eye, Abelard joined the household. A few months later I found little Eli abandoned near a pawn shop so figured why stop here and adopted him. That was going to be enough until Sherry posted photos of Billy & Lilly who were dumped at her farm, and I just had to take them in too.
If I had more space and more money I would probably have more cats. They are addictive :)
Enfilade - 18 Mar 2005 03:15 GMT > I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I > would like to know how many people own one cat or more. I don't care > if you have fifteen I just want to know one or more than one and I > guess if you have one and absolutely want another one put your answer > as more than one. We have more than one.
First we had one, then two, then four. And we found that with just Nox, she got really lonely when we weren't home all the time with her. And the second one was a tom and she didn't like him much. The 3rd and 4th were abandoned kittens and now everyone gets along great--the kittens play with the tom AND keep Nox company, and they don't ignore us at all--they are happier when they ARE with us.
Some cats don't like company but most are happier with others of their own kind around. Particularly if you aren't at home all day every day.
--Fil
Seanette Blaylock - 18 Mar 2005 03:28 GMT Brad <bjdbrad@gmail.com> had some very interesting things to say about One cat or double trouble........ your opinion please straw poll:
>I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I >would like to know how many people own one cat or more. I don't care >if you have fifteen I just want to know one or more than one and I >guess if you have one and absolutely want another one put your answer >as more than one. Currently: have one, wouldn't mind more (but my current cat is an adamant only. He *hates* other cats. Loves dogs, likes the bird just fine, hates cats).
In the past, anywhere from one to twenty-one (when I was about eight or nine, three of our cats had kittens around the same time, for a combined total of fourteen kittens), and I do prefer a multi-cat situation, mostly because it offers better odds someone wants to play or cuddle when I do. :-)
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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Brad - 18 Mar 2005 05:58 GMT Wow folks thanks for the turnout, let me say first that I am definetly looking at the rescue for both cats thanks for all of the great advice I am surprised at the first days results see if you are too. by the way if you sig isnt clear if you are male or female would you please add that also, I have guessed at the first days so please don't follow up with your gender if you posted already.
Out of 25 responses 20 had more than one cat out of 25 responses 20 were female
maybe I will go back through when I am done and see if the female correlates to having more than one cat.
Again thanks for the response and the rescue addresses I havent had any luck at all but maybe I wasnt looking in the right places.
Brad
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Kreisleriana - 18 Mar 2005 14:39 GMT >Wow folks thanks for the turnout, let me say first that I am definetly >looking at the rescue for both cats thanks for all of the great advice >I am surprised at the first days results see if you are too. by the >way if you sig isnt clear if you are male or female would you please >add that also, I have guessed at the first days so please don't follow >up with your gender if you posted already. What does that matter? Just curious.
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Brad - 19 Mar 2005 08:57 GMT
>What does that matter? >Just curious. > >Theresa >Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh >My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Oh oh......I hope you didn't come up with something perverted about my character......you ask me a question I can't answer.....I think maybe because it seems like there is an overwhelming female majority in the group and as I was marking it down it seemed like I think four of the five men had one cat so the women are overwhelmingly( I like that word) owning more than one cat......hmmm......curious......I like women.......ummm........looking for a date......ummmm.......women like mysterious men I hear and I thought it made me sound mysterious......ummm.......I hope women like dumb guys too because its Siberians that I want not Siamese.....lol......I keep mixing them up.....
>Brad > >LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE >SAFELY IN A WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT >RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY >WORN OUT, SHOUTING" HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" Pat - 19 Mar 2005 16:46 GMT > I like women.......ummm........looking for a date......ummmm.......women like mysterious men I hear and I thought it made me sound
> mysterious......ummm.......I hope women like dumb guys too because its > Siberians that I want not Siamese.....lol......I keep mixing them > up..... Siberians are dogs, not cats. I'm looking for a date too but you might be a touch *too* dumb for me :D.
jmcquown - 19 Mar 2005 17:34 GMT >> I like women.......ummm........looking for a >> date......ummmm.......women [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Siberians are dogs, not cats. I'm looking for a date too but you > might be a touch *too* dumb for me :D. LOL That's funny. I wonder what breed of cat he really wants?
Jill
Monique Y. Mudama - 19 Mar 2005 18:22 GMT >> Siberians are dogs, not cats. I'm looking for a date too but you might be a >> touch *too* dumb for me :D. > > LOL That's funny. I wonder what breed of cat he really wants? I had a siberian hamster ... maybe he meant a hamster, not a dog. For the record, he was a very cool little guy.
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Brad - 20 Mar 2005 04:35 GMT For the
>record, he was a very cool little guy. Well.......thank you very much but I'm really not that little......
Brad
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Monique Y. Mudama - 20 Mar 2005 07:30 GMT > For the >>record, he was a very cool little guy. > > Well.......thank you very much but I'm really not that little...... I meant the hamster =P
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CK - 19 Mar 2005 19:45 GMT >>I like women.......ummm........looking for a date......ummmm.......women > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Siberians are dogs, not cats. I'm looking for a date too but you might be a > touch *too* dumb for me :D. Siberians are cats too. See the breed description at http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/siberian.html
Similar to Maine Coon, I think.
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Pat - 19 Mar 2005 19:53 GMT > >>I like women.......ummm........looking for a date......ummmm.......women > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Similar to Maine Coon, I think. Well then I retract my previous comment. Brad...? Bring it on!!!
Brad - 20 Mar 2005 04:40 GMT
>Well then I retract my previous comment. Brad...? Bring it on!!! Lol......oops......I think I just tried to cancel the date you never accepted......can I change my mind again....??....do women like men who are "wishy washy".......
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Brad - 20 Mar 2005 04:37 GMT >>>I like women.......ummm........looking for a date......ummmm.......women >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Similar to Maine Coon, I think. Oh my God I thought they were kidding about the Siberian only being a dog......do you think I'm committed to that date.....??
On the cat it does look alot like the coon.. also looks a lot like one called some kind of Norwegian forest cat or something like that.....all three look very close.
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SuzQ - 22 Mar 2005 00:11 GMT Christine said:
Siberians are cats too. See the breed description at http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/siberian.html
Similar to Maine Coon, I think.
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CatNipped - 22 Mar 2005 16:22 GMT > Christine said: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Looks a lot like Sammy. Catnipped's kittenzilla. > Suz&Spicey Oooo. I like that! First Samazon, now Kittenzilla. I'm getting such kewl nicknames for her from this group!! Thanks!!!!
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SuzQ - 23 Mar 2005 00:18 GMT ==========================================
> Looks a lot like Sammy. Catnipped's kittenzilla. > Suz&Spicey Oooo. I like that! First Samazon, now Kittenzilla. I'm getting such kewl nicknames for her from this group!! Thanks!!!!
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CatNipped ========================================= If you have access to a dollhouse you could take a picture of her by it for one of your cards with the heading: Greetings from Kittenzilla or Happy xxxxxxx from Kittenzilla ;o) Sus&Spicey
CatNipped - 23 Mar 2005 18:27 GMT > ========================================== >> Looks a lot like Sammy. Catnipped's kittenzilla. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Happy xxxxxxx from Kittenzilla ;o) > Sus&Spicey Oooooo! What a great idea - *thanks*!
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Seanette Blaylock - 23 Mar 2005 03:36 GMT "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: One cat or double trouble........ your opinion please straw:
>Oooo. I like that! First Samazon, now Kittenzilla. I'm getting such kewl >nicknames for her from this group!! Thanks!!!! I call her the MegaKitten. :-)
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> :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Helen Wheels - 20 Mar 2005 02:50 GMT >>I like women.......ummm........looking for a date......ummmm.......women > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Siberians are dogs, not cats. I'm looking for a date too but you might be a > touch *too* dumb for me :D. There are certainly Siberian dogs, but there are Siberian cats too, and very beautiful they are. There are pictures at http://www.siberiancatrescue.com, http://www.siberiancats.com (and for something extra that still knocks me out, check out http://www.siberiancats.com/race.htm) (but sorry, I'm not really looking for a date :) )
Mary - 20 Mar 2005 03:02 GMT > something extra that still knocks me out, check out > http://www.siberiancats.com/race.htm) > (but sorry, I'm not really looking for a date :) ) hahaha! All those little harnesses!
Brad - 20 Mar 2005 04:34 GMT >> I like women.......ummm........looking for a date......ummmm.......women >like mysterious men I hear and I thought it made me sound [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Siberians are dogs, not cats. I'm looking for a date too but you might be a >touch *too* dumb for me :D. Awww.......come on you should be able to live with just a touch.......ya think......??.......Pick ya up tomorrow nite at 8...ish......what state are you in I might have to leave soon......
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Monique Y. Mudama - 18 Mar 2005 21:21 GMT > > Wow folks thanks for the turnout, let me say first that I am definetly [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Brad My casual observation is that there are more female posters on this NG than male, by a large margin, so I wouldn't really be surprised at that figure. Not sure why you think it matters, though.
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Karen - 18 Mar 2005 21:43 GMT > > Wow folks thanks for the turnout, let me say first that I am definetly > > looking at the rescue for both cats thanks for all of the great advice [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > male, by a large margin, so I wouldn't really be surprised at that figure. > Not sure why you think it matters, though. Just remember, if it was the significant others posting, there would be more males with multiple cats.
Marina - 19 Mar 2005 05:28 GMT > Just remember, if it was the significant others posting, there would be more > males with multiple cats. I've been thinking, but can't come up with a male on this group with just a single cat. Oh, now I've got it: John E. But he used to have two, but the other one passed away. I think all the other males here have several. If that matters. Oh, thought of another one: Takayuki. But we're working on him. ;o)
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CK - 19 Mar 2005 08:54 GMT >> Just remember, if it was the significant others posting, there would >> be more [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > several. If that matters. Oh, thought of another one: Takayuki. But > we're working on him. ;o) Isn't Harri Roadcat a single owner too?
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Marina - 19 Mar 2005 09:30 GMT >>> Just remember, if it was the significant others posting, there would >>> be more [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Isn't Harri Roadcat a single owner too? Single in the semi, but Dan has three more at home. :o)
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Marina - 18 Mar 2005 06:24 GMT > I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I > would like to know how many people own one cat or more. Short answer: more.
Long answer: I have two, soon to be three if all works out. I got Frank as a five-month-old kitten. At that time, I still had a very busy social life and was away from home a lot. I soon started noticing that Frank would often just sit and stare in front of him in some corner. I deduced that he was bored and maybe getting a bit depressed because he was lonely. So I got Nikki, an eight-week-old kitten. Frank was almost a year old then. After about 12 hours, they were the best of friends, and they have been ever since. Frank is now 17 and Nikki 16 years old. They don't curl up together as much as they did when they were younger, but they do get along, groom each other, play-fight, and sometimes still snooze together.
In another week's time (eek, time flies!), I will be getting a new kitten. I have mixed feelings about this. The poor baby needs a home, but how will the seniors take to her? Fortunately, I have the option of returning her if it doesn't work.
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Katrina - 18 Mar 2005 09:16 GMT > I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I > would like to know how many people own one cat or more. I don't care > if you have fifteen I just want to know one or more than one and I > guess if you have one and absolutely want another one put your answer > as more than one. <Snip>
> I may as well tell you my reason I wanted only one is that I live > alone and I want a cat for companionship which I may lose of bit of if > I own two cats or maybe I will have twice as much companionship with 2 > huh?? I currently have two, but at various times I've had only one. There are advantages both ways. My first cat was an only... she didn't like other cats, and even when we did have a second cat for about 3 years, Tigger didn't want to have anything to do with Patches. It was like having two only cats. After Tig and Patches died, we got littermates- two sisters (Scamper and Nosey). They didn't particularly like each other either- again, they ignored each other, and wanted ME for companionship. The current duo (Ming and Buttercup) are best buddies- they play together, sleep together and eat together. They groom each other. They aren't nearly as affectionate with people- Ming demands to be petted, and Buttercup tolerates it but neither is paticularly a "lap cat". This may partly be differences in personality- it might be that Ming and Buttercup wouldn't be any more affectionate if they were only cats. I don't really know. If you're home most nights, and don't go on long out of town trips, I don't see anything wrong with only one cat.
BTW- in the part of your original post that I snipped, you mentioned wanting a Siamese... do you specifically want a purebred Siamese? Of the six cats I've mentioned, 3 have been pointed cats (Siamese markings). Nosey was a tabby point shorthair, Ming is a dark seal point (with white feet- he's a shorthair, but marked like a Birman), and Buttercup is a long haired tabby point. All three are plain old moggies. Ming came from the shelter, and there were at least 4 other point marked cats at that time. If you like the Siamese markings and aren't specifically set on a purebred, you might look for a Siamese marked moggie. I have a soft spot for Siamese markings- something about those dark faces with the blue eyes....
Katrina
Steve Touchstone - 18 Mar 2005 11:42 GMT Two cats here.
To make a long story short, I didn't think I wanted a cat. Then a pregnant stray, Little Bit, showed up during an ice storm. I let her in out of the cold - she had her babies in the bedroom closet, and by the time they were weaned she'd convinced me she was home. I ended up keeping one of her daughters ;-), and found homes for the other three. Now I can't think of not having them around.
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sriddles@aol.com - 18 Mar 2005 15:50 GMT > If you care to mention why you own one or more obviously you can do > that but please if nothing else give me a 1 or more than 1, I was just [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Brad Just my opinion... I would never have only one cat, particularly a Siamese. They are truly an entirely separate breed all their own. They want to be the center of attention, and can be downright needy. If you're gone from home much, the cat will miss you, and a bored and needy cat can actually become destructive or develop personality issues. I *swear* to you, aside from vet expenses, two cats are no more trouble than one. If you're getting a Siamese, two cats will be *less* trouble than one, because the second cat will keep the Siamese occupied.
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Enfilade - 19 Mar 2005 01:06 GMT If anyone wants to know the tally at the
> > end I will be happy to post it after a few days of no responses to > the > > thread. Hmmm...I am female, but it was my partner (male) who brought home the kittens.
To be fair:
We both decided to adopt cat #1
I asked him if I could bring cat #2 home from the military base, since the accommodations people (dickweeds) were going to have him killed, and he was our unit mascot and the whole unit was afraid for him
He found cats #3 and #4 as abandoned kittens, brought them home, then called me (I was on military service--this was a year after cat #2) to tell me that "um, we have four cats now."
So he is actually responsible for most of our multiple cats
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Enfilade - 19 Mar 2005 01:07 GMT I just realized how confusing/worrisome/silly this sounded, so here is the fixed version:
Hmmm...I am female, but it was my partner (male) who brought home the kittens.
To be fair:
We both decided to adopt cat #1
I asked him if I could bring cat #2 home from the military base, since the accommodations people (dickweeds) were going to have him (Smokey the cat) killed, and Smokey was our unit mascot and the whole unit was afraid for him (smokey)
He (husband type person) found cats #3 and #4 as abandoned kittens, brought them home, then called me (I was on military service--this was a year after cat #2) to tell me that "um, we have four cats now."
So he, DP, is actually responsible for most of our multiple cats.
--Fil
mlbriggs - 20 Mar 2005 01:51 GMT > I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I > would like to know how many people own one cat or more. I don't care if [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING... " HOLY > @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" My reason for one is the same as yours. Also, where I live (I own my condo) pets are not permitted. However I have had a cat since 1983. They tell me I am now "grandfathered".
MLB
badwilson - 20 Mar 2005 04:16 GMT I only have 1 cat. When we first got Vino, we lived in a 1 bedroom condo and never really thought of getting 2. Vino was bottle fed by hoomins when he was a kitten and we got him at 6 1/2 weeks. So he pretty much grew up as an only cat, which is probably why he hates other cats now. He likes hoomins and I think he doesn't mind dogs. One time we brought in two 7 year old cats but in the 2 months we had them, Vino got very depressed and we felt it wasn't fair. So we re-homed the other cats. Vino perked right up. Now we live in a house and other cats from the neighbourhood come to the windows and Vino is never really happy about that. When we move away from here and get our own house, I would like more cats but don't know how Vino would take it. I might try to get a young kitten, hopefully he'd accept that. Otherwise, I guess I'll wait until Vino passes away and then get 2 at the same time. But since Vino is going to live to be at least 34 years old, that won't happen for a loooooong time! ;-) -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
> I would like to do an independent poll if you guys would be so kind, I > would like to know how many people own one cat or more. I don't care [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, > SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" O J - 20 Mar 2005 22:59 GMT -------------------<snip>---------------------
>I may as well tell you my reason I wanted only one is that I live >alone and I want a cat for companionship which I may lose of bit of if >I own two cats or maybe I will have twice as much companionship with 2 >huh?? It can be tough to say. There are such creatures as cats that would prefer to be the only cat in the family, but most cats do better with a companion cat. If I had to guess, I'd say get two. It's playing the odds.
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Brad - 24 Mar 2005 05:20 GMT
Well guys and gals it looks like we have run the gamut on this one......I want to thank you all for your information and responses
Brad
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Pat - 24 Mar 2005 06:12 GMT > Well guys and gals it looks like we have run the gamut on this > one......I want to thank you all for your information and responses Where's my date
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