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Tish Silberbauer - 12 Mar 2005 11:42 GMT
My freelance attempt at quesadillas turned out to be lovely, but
anyone familiar with Mexican cuisine would probably have cringed.  

I made flatbreads / tortillas with a mixture of fine polenta and wheat
flour.  I made a spanikopita-type of mixture with fresh spinach,
garlic, onion, feta cheese, cottage cheese and a generous handful of
mint (love mint in spanikopita).

Rolled out flatbreads, filled them with spinach mixture, toasted in a
flat-press sandwich maker / toaster (don't know what they're called in
the US).  - my attempt to make it low-fat

Once cooked, I topped each with a salsa-kind of thing made with ripe
tomatoes, cilantro / corriander leaf, onion, lemon juice and a couple
of chillis (deseeded because Mum doesn't like it that hot).  

Everyone agreed it was very tasty and we have enough left over for a
light lunch tomorrow.  The cats and d*gs went "phooey" at the concept
of vegetarian food!  

I have enough polenta pastry to have a go at a chicken one tomorrow
night.  DH and I consider this to be a successful continuation of the
"wrapped food of the world" concept we've been exploring periodically
over the last 12 months (every culture seems to have its version of
flat-bread-wrapped-around-tasty-stuff-and-baked/BBQ'd/grilled/fried)

Tish
Karen - 12 Mar 2005 13:35 GMT
> My freelance attempt at quesadillas turned out to be lovely, but
> anyone familiar with Mexican cuisine would probably have cringed.
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>
> Tish

Dang I'm hungry again!
Marina - 12 Mar 2005 18:46 GMT
> My freelance attempt at quesadillas turned out to be lovely, but
> anyone familiar with Mexican cuisine would probably have cringed.  

Sounds lovely. Might have to try it. Frank and Nikki send their
commiserations on the vegetarian menu. Their Meowmie never makes
anything that they would like (but then, they get fresh meat every two
days, so they shouldn't complain).

I made veggies au gratin this evening. Steam-cooked some cauliflower and
broccoli so they were a bit crunchy, and cut a zucchini in slices
lengthwise. Salted the slices and let them 'weep' on a tea towel for a
while, then dried off the excess water. Poured a little olive oil in the
bottom of a pan and lay the veggies in the pan. Mixed some oat bran
(should be bread crumbs, but I didn't have any), shredded Parmesan, lots
of chopped chives and parsley, and whole cream. Poured on top of veggies
and baked in oven for 20 minutes until the cheese mix was nice and
crisp. Mmm!

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Yoj - 13 Mar 2005 09:20 GMT
> My freelance attempt at quesadillas turned out to be lovely, but
> anyone familiar with Mexican cuisine would probably have cringed.
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>
> Tish

Well, they don't sound anything like the cheese quesadillas I make, but they
sound good.  I buy ready-made tortillas (easy to find in Southern
California) and fill them with grated cheddar cheese, chicken and onion.  I
cook them in the microwave until the cheese melts (45-60 seconds, depending
on the microwave) and serve them with guacamole.  I have them for dinner,
with a green salad, 3-4 times a week.

Joy
L. (usenetlyn) - 13 Mar 2005 09:42 GMT
> Well, they don't sound anything like the cheese quesadillas I make, but they
> sound good.  I buy ready-made tortillas (easy to find in Southern
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>
> Joy

Try cooking them in a big non-stick skillet on medium heat.  I wipe the
skillet with oil, and assemble them in the skillet (put the cheese on
the whole thing, and hot filling on half) - fold over, and flip once,
Nice and crispy/toasty/flaky on the outside, and tender/moist on the
inside.  Yum!  Much better than nuking, IMO - which I have done as
well. :)

-L.
Yoj - 13 Mar 2005 11:05 GMT
> > Well, they don't sound anything like the cheese quesadillas I make,
> but they
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>
> -L.

I can see that would be good.  However, I like them soft, and it's less
trouble to nuke them, and one less item to wash.  I find that, cooking for
one, I like to keep things as simple as possible.

What sort of hot filling do you use?

Joy
L. (usenetlyn) - 13 Mar 2005 17:13 GMT
> > Try cooking them in a big non-stick skillet on medium heat.  I wipe the
> > skillet with oil, and assemble them in the skillet (put the cheese on
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>
> Joy

I stir-fry onions until they are soft and start to sweeten, then add
green pepper - cook awhile longer.  I then add salsa (just a little) a
tad of light corn syrup (just to cut the acidity of the salsa, not
necessary), a bit of garlic and onion powder, chili powder, and usually
left over roasted chicken.  I sometimes add zuchini, spinach or
broccoli - we really like vegetables.  Just cook everything on med.
heat in the skillet, while stirring occassionally,  until tender. You
want most of the liquid to cook off, so don't cover the skillet.  Then
use as filling.  Yum!  It's a great way to use leftover chicken.  I
usually roast a whole chicken, DH eats the legs and thighs for a couple
of meals and I use the breast meat for quesadillas, although they are
quite good using the leg and thigh meat (I actually prefer them that
way). :)

-L.
Monique Y. Mudama - 15 Mar 2005 02:15 GMT
> I stir-fry onions until they are soft and start to sweeten, then add green
> pepper - cook awhile longer.  I then add salsa (just a little) a tad of
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> quesadillas, although they are quite good using the leg and thigh meat (I
> actually prefer them that way). :)

You can't fool me!  That's a fajita, not a quesadilla!

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-L. - 15 Mar 2005 02:48 GMT
> > I stir-fry onions until they are soft and start to sweeten, then add green
> > pepper - cook awhile longer.  I then add salsa (just a little) a tad of
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>
> You can't fool me!  That's a fajita, not a quesadilla!

Actually it *is* a quesadilla - is grilled in a tortilla like a
quesadilla and the pieces of veggies are small. :)  If I made one for
you you'd say "That was one yummy quesaduilla!" ;)

-L.
Monique Y. Mudama - 15 Mar 2005 03:02 GMT
>> You can't fool me!  That's a fajita, not a quesadilla!
>
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>
> -L.

Hrm, maybe.  But anything that involves onions, green peppers and chicken
sounds like a fajita to me =P

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Jo Firey - 15 Mar 2005 04:30 GMT
>>> You can't fool me!  That's a fajita, not a quesadilla!
>>
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> Hrm, maybe.  But anything that involves onions, green peppers and chicken
> sounds like a fajita to me =P

Not that it matters cause it sounds yummy, but to me it has to have melted
cheese inside to be a quesadilla.

Jo
Monique Y. Mudama - 15 Mar 2005 06:21 GMT
>>>> You can't fool me!  That's a fajita, not a quesadilla!
>>>
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> Not that it matters cause it sounds yummy, but to me it has to have melted
> cheese inside to be a quesadilla.

Oh, wasn't there cheese in it?  I must have just assumed it would have cheese!

The 'ques' part of it pretty much means cheese, I think.

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-L. - 15 Mar 2005 08:13 GMT
> > Not that it matters cause it sounds yummy, but to me it has to have melted
> > cheese inside to be a quesadilla.
>
> Oh, wasn't there cheese in it?  I must have just assumed it would have cheese!
>
> The 'ques' part of it pretty much means cheese, I think.

Yes, there is cheese in it.  I made some tonight, actually. :)  If my
camera wasn't full, I'd take a shot of the leftovers so you could see
it REALLY is a quesadilla! ;p

-L.
Jo Firey - 15 Mar 2005 18:32 GMT
>> > Not that it matters cause it sounds yummy, but to me it has to have
> melted
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>
> -L.

Still think it sounds yummy.  I always believed quesedilla roughly
translated meant grilled cheese sandwich made on tortillas to shut up the
kids at the restaurant who won't eat real Mexican food.  Or that they were
invented by children as an afternoon snack for after school.

Jo
-L. - 16 Mar 2005 07:26 GMT
> Still think it sounds yummy.  I always believed quesedilla roughly
> translated meant grilled cheese sandwich made on tortillas to shut up the
> kids at the restaurant who won't eat real Mexican food.  Or that they were
> invented by children as an afternoon snack for after school.
>
> Jo

I dunno about authentic quesadillas, but I know Tex-Mex have other
"stuff" in them.   I cook a lot of Mexican foods - some more
traditional than others.  My brother is a pretty die-hard authentic
Mexican gourmand. I, OTOH, just like the spices, techniques and
ingredients. :)

I also made a big pot of Mex rice.  I use Vigo brand yellow rice mix,
add sauteed onions and green peppers, garlic, black pepper and onion
powder.  I use chicken broth instead of water to cook it.  When it's
almost done I add a can of drained, chopped tomatoes and a few black
olives.  Sooo yummy!

-L.
Victor Martinez - 16 Mar 2005 14:57 GMT
> translated meant grilled cheese sandwich made on tortillas to shut up the
> kids at the restaurant who won't eat real Mexican food.  Or that they were
> invented by children as an afternoon snack for after school.

I've eaten quesadillas all my life. I grew up eating them always made
with corn tortillas. I didn't know flour tortillas existed until I was
10 years old or so, when a national bakery in Mexico started selling
flour tortillas nationwide. In theory, a quesadilla is nothing more than
a cheese (we do not have yellow cheese in Mexico) taco, grilled. They
even make a special kind of cheese for quesadillas, called "asadero"
(meaning "grilling" cheese), though I prefer the flavor of oaxacan cheese.
In Mexico city they sell quesadillas on street corners, but it's the
only place where you can have a quesadilla made without cheese. When you
order a quesadilla there, they ask you what you want in it: mushrooms,
meat, rajas, etc. They roll out a fresh corn tortilla, stuff it with
what you want, and grill it in a hot comal. YUM!!!

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Monique Y. Mudama - 16 Mar 2005 17:32 GMT
>> translated meant grilled cheese sandwich made on tortillas to shut up the
>> kids at the restaurant who won't eat real Mexican food.  Or that they were
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> corn tortilla, stuff it with what you want, and grill it in a hot comal.
> YUM!!!

Waitasec.  I thought cheese was a tex-mex affectation, not something used much
in real Mexican cooking?

I've never even heard of oaxacan cheese; what's it like?  Also, what are
rajas?

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Victor Martinez - 16 Mar 2005 19:43 GMT
> Waitasec.  I thought cheese was a tex-mex affectation, not something used much
> in real Mexican cooking?

Yellow chese and "cheese on everyting" is indeed a tex-mex thing.
However, Mexico has a wide variety of cheeses that are used in our
cooking. Mostly as a garnish, mind you.

> I've never even heard of oaxacan cheese; what's it like?  Also, what are
> rajas?

Oaxacan cheese is very much like mozzarella. Rajas refers to strips of
poblano chiles that are usually cooked with onions and crema.

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Jo Firey - 16 Mar 2005 20:05 GMT
>> Waitasec.  I thought cheese was a tex-mex affectation, not something used
>> much
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> Oaxacan cheese is very much like mozzarella. Rajas refers to strips of
> poblano chiles that are usually cooked with onions and crema.

What would be good to stuff a Chili Relleno?   Charlie likes those and I can
manage a coating and a sauce he likes.

Jo
Victor Martinez - 16 Mar 2005 20:34 GMT
> What would be good to stuff a Chili Relleno?   Charlie likes those and I can
> manage a coating and a sauce he likes.

I assume you mean cheese? I would stuff it with panela, nice and mild
and it won't melt away. The coating for chiles rellenos is very simple,
my mom just covers them in flour, then passes them through egg wash and
fries them.

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Debbie Wilson - 16 Mar 2005 20:17 GMT
> Oaxacan cheese is very much like mozzarella. Rajas refers to strips of
> poblano chiles that are usually cooked with onions and crema.

Victor, hope you don't mind me jumping into the thread here, but it's
kind of on the same subject - when we were in Ecuador last year, we
stopped in a town called Cayambe and had a delicious snack of locally
produced queso de hoja and bizcochos - the cheese was very stringy and
pale, mild and creamy in flavour, it was more flavoursome than
mozzarella, and stringier :-) Very tasty. Does this sound like the
Oaxacan cheese? I know Mexico is a long way from Ecuador but perhaps
it's similar. I'd love to try and get hold of something like that here,
though it's probably a long shot in London. Is there anything
commercially available in the US that's like that?

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Victor Martinez - 16 Mar 2005 20:37 GMT
> Victor, hope you don't mind me jumping into the thread here, but it's

Not at all, it's usenet after all... :)

> mozzarella, and stringier :-) Very tasty. Does this sound like the
> Oaxacan cheese? I know Mexico is a long way from Ecuador but perhaps

It does. I just did a quick google search, since I've only been in
Ecuador once and didn't have any cheese... :)
They say it's very similar to mozzarella, so it's also similar to oaxaca.

> it's similar. I'd love to try and get hold of something like that here,
> though it's probably a long shot in London. Is there anything
> commercially available in the US that's like that?

There are many brands of mexican-style cheeses for sale here in Texas,
among them Noche Buena and Cacique. Just look for "oaxaca" cheese.

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Debbie Wilson - 16 Mar 2005 21:00 GMT
> There are many brands of mexican-style cheeses for sale here in Texas,
> among them Noche Buena and Cacique. Just look for "oaxaca" cheese.

Thanks Victor, I had a quick look online but so far found nowhere in the
UK on the web, but I am sure it must be available somewhere in London.
Will keep looking! I found the Cacique website, anyway :-)

Deb.
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Debbie Wilson - 16 Mar 2005 21:54 GMT
> It does. I just did a quick google search, since I've only been in
> Ecuador once and didn't have any cheese... :)

I meant to ask, where did you go in Ecuador? I found it such a beautiful
country, very welcoming and friendly people. We went to Quito and then
to Hacienda Cusin near to Otavalo, and then the Galapagos. Would love so
much to go back one day - it's a long way from here, though :-(

Deb.
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Victor Martinez - 16 Mar 2005 23:16 GMT
> I meant to ask, where did you go in Ecuador? I found it such a beautiful

I went to Guayaquil, my best friend from college married a girl from
there and I was in the wedding.

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Debbie Wilson - 16 Mar 2005 23:30 GMT
> > I meant to ask, where did you go in Ecuador? I found it such a beautiful
>
> I went to Guayaquil, my best friend from college married a girl from
> there and I was in the wedding.

Ahh - we flew over there and briefly touched down, but did not see any
of the city. Maybe next time...

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Steve Touchstone - 16 Mar 2005 23:09 GMT
>> Oaxacan cheese is very much like mozzarella. Rajas refers to strips of
>> poblano chiles that are usually cooked with onions and crema.
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>though it's probably a long shot in London. Is there anything
>commercially available in the US that's like that?

I think availability will vary greatly according to where you are in
the States. Here in this part of Oklahoma selection is almost
nonexistent. But, when I visit may family out in California most of
the grocery stores have a wide selection. In fact, there are parts of
Bakersfield (where I grew up and my parents and a brother and sister
still live) where you have to read Spanish to read the advertisements
on store fronts.
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Debbie Wilson - 16 Mar 2005 23:18 GMT
> I think availability will vary greatly according to where you are in
> the States. Here in this part of Oklahoma selection is almost
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> still live) where you have to read Spanish to read the advertisements
> on store fronts.

Wow! I guess that's rather like parts of London where a good knowledge
of the Urdu or Bengali language is very helpful in feeling at home :-)
There must be somewhere that stocks Latin/Spanish-type foods, I'll just
keep looking...

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