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CatNipped - 11 Mar 2005 19:31 GMT Simple, but always good, New Orleans red beans and rice.
2 bags kidney beans 2 pounds pork & venison sausage 1 *very* large onion salt, pepper, ground cayenne pepper to taste 1/2 tsp. sugar
Rinse beans, cut up sausage, cut up onion and just throw it all in a big pot and let it simmer for 4 hours, then serve over rice. [The sugar is to take the gas-producing out of the beans.]
Serves 8.
Yum!
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jmcquown - 11 Mar 2005 20:24 GMT > Simple, but always good, New Orleans red beans and rice. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Yum! I loves me some red beans & rice! But what, no "holy trinity"? Bell pepper, onion and celery? (I usually add garlic too.) You just reminded me I forgot to buy Andouille sausage yesterday. Just as well. I loaded up on veggies and got a corned beef brisket on sale for St. Paddy's next week.
Jill
CatNipped - 11 Mar 2005 21:01 GMT > I loves me some red beans & rice! But what, no "holy trinity"? Bell > pepper, onion and celery? (I usually add garlic too.) You just reminded me > I forgot to buy Andouille sausage yesterday. Just as well. I loaded up on > veggies and got a corned beef brisket on sale for St. Paddy's next week. > > Jill Yeah, onion was included and I forgot to add that I put 1/2 clove of garlic, but I don't like bell peppers and celery.
Hugs,
CatNipped
jmcquown - 11 Mar 2005 21:10 GMT >> I loves me some red beans & rice! But what, no "holy trinity"? Bell >> pepper, onion and celery? (I usually add garlic too.) You just [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > CatNipped I'm not wild about bell pepper or celery either; I mince it very, very fine so it disintigrates! In fact, I don't care for onion, either and it gets the finely minced treatment as well. For me, it's not the taste of these things, it's the texture. I can't stand biting into the crunch of a hunk of onion... it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.
Jill
CatNipped - 11 Mar 2005 21:25 GMT > >> I loves me some red beans & rice! But what, no "holy trinity"? Bell > >> pepper, onion and celery? (I usually add garlic too.) You just [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Jill Ooo, not me. I love big hunks of onion - I like it cooked just about anyway you can cook it - same with garlic!
Hugs,
CatNipped
jmcquown - 11 Mar 2005 21:31 GMT >>>> I loves me some red beans & rice! But what, no "holy trinity"? >>>> Bell pepper, onion and celery? (I usually add garlic too.) You [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > CatNipped I have a recipe for stuffed vidalia onions you might like :) Email me if you want to give it a whirl.
Jill
SuzQ - 13 Mar 2005 19:21 GMT I'm not wild about bell pepper or celery either; I mince it very, very fine so it disintigrates! In fact, I don't care for onion, either and it gets the finely minced treatment as well. For me, it's not the taste of these things, it's the texture. I can't stand biting into the crunch of a hunk of onion... it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.
Jill =======================================
My sister used to put onions in the blender and liquify them. She got the flavor without the texture. Suz
jmcquown - 14 Mar 2005 08:18 GMT > I'm not wild about bell pepper or celery either; I mince it very, very > fine [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > the flavor without the texture. > Suz I've been known to buy onion juice rather than use raw onions. It works.
Jill
O J - 12 Mar 2005 09:03 GMT >Jill wrote... > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Yeah, onion was included and I forgot to add that I put 1/2 clove of garlic, >but I don't like bell peppers and celery. According to chef Paul Prudhomme, if you add bell peppers (obviously you have to like them first) a dish will not keep well for leftovers. When I make myself a big mess of comfort food like that, I eat it myself over a few days (DH doesn't care for beans at all) so I omit the peppers as well.
Regards and Purrs, O J
jmcquown - 12 Mar 2005 12:14 GMT >> Jill wrote... >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Regards and Purrs, > O J Leftovers?! LOL Funny, it's Prudhomme's recipe I use and it calls for bell peppers. Since I don't often buy them I usually omit them. I was merely teasing Catnipped about the holy trinity since she's from Louisiana.
Jill
Victor Martinez - 12 Mar 2005 14:00 GMT > According to chef Paul Prudhomme, if you add bell peppers (obviously > you have to like them first) a dish will not keep well for leftovers. That's silly. My gumbo and ettoufee taste better the next day!
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O J - 12 Mar 2005 14:29 GMT >> According to chef Paul Prudhomme, if you add bell peppers (obviously >> you have to like them first) a dish will not keep well for leftovers. > >That's silly. My gumbo and ettoufee taste better the next day! I don't think he was talking about the next day. If I recall correctly, he was speaking in terms of several days to a week. A big crock pot of bean soup will last me that long (remember, I'm the only one who eats it), but gumbo or ettoufee -- I don't make that much and it's gone in no time.
MMmmmm ettoufee!!
Regards and Purrs, O J
cajunprincess - 12 Mar 2005 22:40 GMT > >> According to chef Paul Prudhomme, if you add bell peppers (obviously > >> you have to like them first) a dish will not keep well for leftovers. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > one who eats it), but gumbo or ettoufee -- I don't make that much and > it's gone in no time. I agree that things like beans and rice, gumbo, etc. are usually better the next day bell peppers notwithstanding. I don't keep anything in a refrigerator for more than three days-if I don't think I can eat it all in three days, I freeze the excess. I can well imagine that most of those sorts of things would be good for a week in a refrigerator. For me, it's more just doing something the way my mom did it when I was growing up and not giving it a lot of thought-sort of like where I put things in my shelves in the kitchen.
I bet if you did a survey, you'd find the vast majority of people put their glasses, dishes, bakeware etc. in the same relative places they were in the kitchen when they were growing up. :-)
> MMmmmm ettoufee!! > > Regards and Purrs, > O J Marina - 16 Mar 2005 15:12 GMT > That's silly. My gumbo and ettoufee taste better the next day! What's ettoufee?
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Victor Martinez - 16 Mar 2005 15:38 GMT > What's ettoufee? CRAWFISH ETOUFFEE (Emeril Lagasse)
6 tablespoons butter 4 tablespoons flour 2 cups chopped onions 1/2 cup chopped celery 1/2 cup chopped bell pepper 6 cloves garlic, minced 2 bay leaves 2 sprigs fresh thyme 2 1/2 cups fish or shrimp stock 1 cup peeled, seeded and diced tomatoes 1 1/2 teaspoons salt 1/2 teaspoon crushed red pepper Hot pepper sauce 2 teaspoons Worcestershire sauce 2 pounds crawfish tails, with the fat 1/2 lemon, juiced 1 cup chopped green onions 1/4 cup chopped parsley
Cooked white rice, for serving
In a large, heavy saucepan, melt 4 tablespoons of the butter and whisk in flour to combine well. Continue to cook, stirring constantly, until roux is a peanut butter color.
Add onions, celery, bell pepper, garlic, bay leaves, and thyme and cook until vegetables are soft, about 6 to 8 minutes. Add stock, tomatoes, salt, red pepper, hot sauce, and Worcestershire sauce and bring to a boil.
Skim surface, reduce heat to a simmer, and cook uncovered for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally.
Add crawfish tails and fat, lemon juice, green onions, and parsley and cook for 15 to 20 minutes, stirring occasionally. Add remaining butter and stir to combine well. Taste and adjust seasoning if necessary. Serve over hot rice.
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CatNipped - 12 Mar 2005 14:01 GMT > >Jill wrote... > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Regards and Purrs, > O J Strange, when I did a google search on that I got the explanation that beans produce gas because the body can't digest the sugar contained in beans. I don't know why a little sugar in the beans works, it's something that's been passed down in New Orleans recipes (which rely heavily on beans and other gas producing foods). I just know that it works!
Hugs,
CatNipped
Jo Firey - 12 Mar 2005 18:49 GMT >>Jill wrote... >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Regards and Purrs, > O J I think Bell pepper gets a bitter flavor when its left over.
Jo
CatNipped - 12 Mar 2005 19:00 GMT > I think Bell pepper gets a bitter flavor when its left over. > > Jo I think it has a bitter flavor when it's fresh (OK, in another thread I said there wasn't any food I didn't like, but I guess I was wrong - I just wasn't thinking of peppers as food!!).
Hugs,
CatNipped
Victor Martinez - 11 Mar 2005 20:35 GMT > and let it simmer for 4 hours, then serve over rice. [The sugar is to take > the gas-producing out of the beans.] Interesting... in Mexico we let the beans soak in water overnight. Then we toss the water out to prevent flatulence. :)
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CatNipped - 11 Mar 2005 21:02 GMT > > and let it simmer for 4 hours, then serve over rice. [The sugar is to take > > the gas-producing out of the beans.] > > Interesting... in Mexico we let the beans soak in water overnight. Then > we toss the water out to prevent flatulence. :) LOL, I never know that far ahead what I'm going to feel like eating the next day! The 1/2 tsp. of sugar (or Beano) takes care of the flatulence.
Hugs,
CatNipped
> -- > Victor M. Martinez > Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) > Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov > Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com jmcquown - 11 Mar 2005 21:13 GMT >>> and let it simmer for 4 hours, then serve over rice. [The sugar is >>> to take the gas-producing out of the beans.] [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > CatNipped There's always the quick-soak method - boil, remove from heat, cover and let sit 1 hour, drain, then cook. But I gather since you simmer this 4 hours the beans come out fine! I'm like you - I was going to make enchiladas yesterday and wound up making potato-leek soup instead. Go figure!
Jill
Irulan - 11 Mar 2005 22:26 GMT damn, it does sound good. I'll go to the supermarket tomorrow and get the fixin's. Jazz & his mama
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> Simple, but always good, New Orleans red beans and rice. > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > CatNipped > http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ dorothy - 12 Mar 2005 02:34 GMT >>>Simple, but always good, New Orleans red beans and rice.
>>><snip yummy recipe>
>>>Hugs,
>>>CatNipped Now this sounds delicious!! I loooooove Nawlins cooking, can't wait to try it. Even with my limited culinary skills, I think I can handle this one ;-) And I didn't even have to wade through a troll attack to get it!
Kerrie
Christine Burel - 12 Mar 2005 03:01 GMT DH and I were wondering how the sugar removes the gas-producing part of bean consumption? Anyone know? Christine
> Simple, but always good, New Orleans red beans and rice. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > CatNipped > http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ Julie Cook - 12 Mar 2005 05:56 GMT > DH and I were wondering how the sugar removes the gas-producing part of bean > consumption? Anyone know? > Christine I don't know the answer to that question, but it works with tomato sauce as well.
Julie
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 12 Mar 2005 22:02 GMT > DH and I were wondering how the sugar removes the gas-producing part of bean > consumption? Anyone know? Does it really, or is that just another urban legend? (My mom used a teaspoonful of baking soda for the same purpose, but I'm not sure it was actually effective.) There is native American herb (grows in the American Southwest, IIRC) that is supposed to really work, but I can't remember the name of it.
Jo Firey - 13 Mar 2005 01:11 GMT >> DH and I were wondering how the sugar removes the gas-producing part of >> bean [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Southwest, IIRC) that is supposed to really work, but I can't remember the > name of it. The only thing I can swear works is beano. And it is rendered ineffective by boiling.
I'm pretty sure thorough cooking works as well at least partially. I never have a problem with refried beans or with baked beans.
Jo
Marina - 16 Mar 2005 15:12 GMT > Does it really, or is that just another urban legend? (My mom used a > teaspoonful of baking soda for the same purpose, but I'm not sure it was > actually effective.) There is native American herb (grows in the > American Southwest, IIRC) that is supposed to really work, but I can't > remember the name of it. I've read that thyme works, but I also soak all beans for hours and then cook them a couple of hours, so that may take away the gassy effect.
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Tish Silberbauer - 12 Mar 2005 03:57 GMT Sounds lovely!
Tonight I'm being inspired by RPCA and am making quesadillas (spelling?) - flying solo (no recipe!). Mind you, I *will* be using a recipe to make the tortillas (I don't like the ones sold in Australian supermarkets and I'm not afraid of wielding a rolling pin, so figure I can make tortillas). I have skinless chicken fillet, *loads* of corriander / cilantro leaf, lots of wondefully ripe and tasty tomatoes, bell pepper, homegrown chillies, onion, garlic and my MIL's lemons (limes are horribly expensive here and our tree is still to small to bear fruit). I'm also going to make some cross-cultural ones stuffed with spinach, feta cheese, cottage cheese and mint (with onion, garlic, lemon juice and fresh-ground pepper).
Golly, that's more thought than I've put into dinner since last weekend!
Tish
>Simple, but always good, New Orleans red beans and rice. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Yum! O J - 12 Mar 2005 08:57 GMT > [The sugar is to take >the gas-producing out of the beans.] What a great tip. I've heard all sorts of tips on de-gassing beans. Some have been to soak the beans overnight and then change the water. Another is to use the product "Beano" as an additive. I eat a lot of legumes, so anything that helps is welcome.
The red beans and rice is a well-known N' Orleans dish, but while we're on the subject of "The Big Easy", I can't help but notice you refer to yourself as a "coon-a.s". That can be a buzz-word and can be taken as an insider's familiarity or an outsider's slur. May I ask why you avoid the word "Cajun"? Acadian is another word acceptable in all circumstances.
If I had to guess, I'd stake money on the proposition that you feel so at home on r.p.c.a that you can just let your hair down and use coon-a.s. Am I right?
Regards and Purrs, O J
CatNipped - 12 Mar 2005 13:55 GMT > > [The sugar is to take > >the gas-producing out of the beans.] [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Regards and Purrs, > O J Yep, I do feel comfortable enough here to let my hair down. And I use that word as pre-emptive defense mechanism - not that that's needed here, it's just habit. Sort of, if you say it yourself you let people know that they can't hurt you by using it. I also use it with a sense of pride, if you can understand that. But mostly I use it because "Cajun" or "Acadian" is just so boring! ;>
Hugs,
CatNipped
O J - 12 Mar 2005 14:34 GMT >Yep, I do feel comfortable enough here to let my hair down. And I use that >word as pre-emptive defense mechanism - not that that's needed here, it's >just habit. Sort of, if you say it yourself you let people know that they >can't hurt you by using it. I also use it with a sense of pride, if you can >understand that. But mostly I use it because "Cajun" or "Acadian" is just >so boring! ;> Must depend on where you're coming from. To me they don't sound boring. To my ears "Cajun" and "Acadian" sound exotic.
Regards and Purrs, O J
Victor Martinez - 12 Mar 2005 17:25 GMT > understand that. But mostly I use it because "Cajun" or "Acadian" is just > so boring! ;> Let me see if I understand it. Cajun, Acadian and coon-a.s are all the same thing? I'm confused.
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CatNipped - 12 Mar 2005 17:58 GMT > > understand that. But mostly I use it because "Cajun" or "Acadian" is just > > so boring! ;> > > Let me see if I understand it. Cajun, Acadian and coon-a.s are all the > same thing? I'm confused. Yep, and Creole too just to make it more confusing! Actually Acadian is used in Canada and Cajun is in Louisiana (and coon-a.s is a derogatory slang for Cajun). The word Cajun comes from the word Acadian (kind of like "Injun" comes from "Indian").
Usually, the word Cajun is used to describe those French people from south Louisiana. But the term Acadian is sometimes used; and when one looks into it, they find that their ancestors in fact were Acadians from Canada. Acadians and Cajuns are the same ... yet they are different. The Acadians were French settlers who settled the area (now known as Nova Scotia) in the 1600's. In the mid 18th century, they were exiled by the British. Over the following 30 years, several thousand of the exiled Acadians made their way to south Louisiana.
Over the next 100+ years, the Acadians became the dominant culture in certain areas of south Louisiana. They retained much of their culture, and absorbed some of the other cultural influences. The German, Spanish, French, English, Indian and other cultures added to the Acadian culture to produce the Cajun culture. The word "Cajun" comes from the word "Acadian", just as "Injun" is a variant of the word "Indian."
So, the Acadians were French settlers in 17th-18th century Canada. When they were exiled, they were no longer a single group. But the Acadian people survived in other cultures ... sometimes merging into those cultures, and sometimes (as in south Louisiana) being a dominant culture. Today's Cajuns may have roots that go back to the Acadians. But along the way, you will probably find German, French, Spanish, etc. ancestors that merged with the Acadians.
Hugs,
CatNipped
> -- > Victor M. Martinez > Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) > Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov > Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com jmcquown - 12 Mar 2005 19:56 GMT >>> understand that. But mostly I use it because "Cajun" or "Acadian" >>> is just so boring! ;> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > CatNipped Snipped excellent history lesson! My ex-fiance, Ray, has his family on his father's side traced back to the Acadians from Nova Scotia so although he says he's Cajun he really is Acadian. Throw some complication in there - his mother was Italian. When we met he told me his mother's name was "Mayree". How do you spell that? "Marie". LOL Sometimes I miss hearing him talk. Oh, and he can call himself a Coon-a.s but you don't dare do it!
Jill
Enfilade - 13 Mar 2005 02:25 GMT > > Yep, and Creole too just to make it more confusing! Actually Acadian > > is used in Canada and Cajun is in Louisiana (and coon-a.s is a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > father's side traced back to the Acadians from Nova Scotia so although he > says he's Cajun he really is Acadian. DP is Acadian. When the British raided his area of PEI, his family hid in the forest, so they were never deported.
When I think of "Cajun" food, I think of gumbo, okra, and shrimp. And lots of hot spices.
When I think of "Acadian" food, I think of meatpie, lobsters, and boiled dinner.
--Fil
jmcquown - 13 Mar 2005 09:46 GMT > > > Yep, and Creole too just to make it more confusing! Actually Acadian > > > is used in Canada and Cajun is in Louisiana (and coon-a.s is a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > --Fil Oh, he cooked all kinds of stuff including highly spiced gumbo with okra and lots of hot spices. And also meat pies (fried) and mudbugs. No boiled dinners - that's strictly "you didn't grow up in Louisiana" Acadian :)
Jill
wafflycat - 14 Mar 2005 07:31 GMT > [The sugar is to take > the gas-producing out of the beans.] PAH! That's taking the fun out of food! Shame on you!
Cheers, helen s ;-)
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