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CatNipped - 11 Mar 2005 19:31 GMT
Simple, but always good, New Orleans red beans and rice.

2 bags kidney beans
2 pounds pork & venison sausage
1 *very* large onion
salt, pepper, ground cayenne pepper to taste
1/2 tsp. sugar

Rinse beans, cut up sausage, cut up onion and just throw it all in a big pot
and let it simmer for 4 hours, then serve over rice.  [The sugar is to take
the gas-producing out of the beans.]

Serves 8.

Yum!

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jmcquown - 11 Mar 2005 20:24 GMT
> Simple, but always good, New Orleans red beans and rice.
>
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>
> Yum!

I loves me some red beans & rice!  But what, no "holy trinity"?  Bell
pepper, onion and celery?  (I usually add garlic too.)  You just reminded me
I forgot to buy Andouille sausage yesterday.  Just as well.  I loaded up on
veggies and got a corned beef brisket on sale for St. Paddy's next week.

Jill
CatNipped - 11 Mar 2005 21:01 GMT
> I loves me some red beans & rice!  But what, no "holy trinity"?  Bell
> pepper, onion and celery?  (I usually add garlic too.)  You just reminded me
> I forgot to buy Andouille sausage yesterday.  Just as well.  I loaded up on
> veggies and got a corned beef brisket on sale for St. Paddy's next week.
>
> Jill

Yeah, onion was included and I forgot to add that I put 1/2 clove of garlic,
but I don't like bell peppers and celery.

Hugs,

CatNipped
jmcquown - 11 Mar 2005 21:10 GMT
>> I loves me some red beans & rice!  But what, no "holy trinity"?  Bell
>> pepper, onion and celery?  (I usually add garlic too.)  You just
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> CatNipped

I'm not wild about bell pepper or celery either; I mince it very, very fine
so it disintigrates!  In fact, I don't care for onion, either and it gets
the finely minced treatment as well.  For me, it's not the taste of these
things, it's the texture.  I can't stand biting into the crunch of a hunk of
onion... it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

Jill
CatNipped - 11 Mar 2005 21:25 GMT
> >> I loves me some red beans & rice!  But what, no "holy trinity"?  Bell
> >> pepper, onion and celery?  (I usually add garlic too.)  You just
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Jill

Ooo, not me.  I love big hunks of onion - I like it cooked just about anyway
you can cook it - same with garlic!

Hugs,

CatNipped
jmcquown - 11 Mar 2005 21:31 GMT
>>>> I loves me some red beans & rice!  But what, no "holy trinity"?
>>>> Bell pepper, onion and celery?  (I usually add garlic too.)  You
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>
> CatNipped

I have a recipe for stuffed vidalia onions you might like :)  Email me if
you want to give it a whirl.

Jill
SuzQ - 13 Mar 2005 19:21 GMT
I'm not wild about bell pepper or celery either; I mince it very, very
fine
so it disintigrates!  In fact, I don't care for onion, either and it gets
the finely minced treatment as well.  For me, it's not the taste of these
things, it's the texture.  I can't stand biting into the crunch of a hunk
of
onion... it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

Jill
=======================================

My sister used to put onions in the blender and liquify them. She got the
flavor without the texture.
Suz
jmcquown - 14 Mar 2005 08:18 GMT
> I'm not wild about bell pepper or celery either; I mince it very, very
> fine
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> the flavor without the texture.
> Suz

I've been known to buy onion juice rather than use raw onions.  It works.

Jill
O J - 12 Mar 2005 09:03 GMT
>Jill wrote...
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Yeah, onion was included and I forgot to add that I put 1/2 clove of garlic,
>but I don't like bell peppers and celery.

According to chef Paul Prudhomme, if you add bell peppers (obviously
you have to like them first) a dish will not keep well for leftovers.
When I make myself a big mess of comfort food like that, I eat it
myself over a few days (DH doesn't care for beans at all) so I omit
the peppers as well.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
jmcquown - 12 Mar 2005 12:14 GMT
>> Jill wrote...
>>
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> Regards and Purrs,
> O J

Leftovers?!  LOL  Funny, it's Prudhomme's recipe I use and it calls for bell
peppers.  Since I don't often buy them I usually omit them.  I was merely
teasing Catnipped about the holy trinity since she's from Louisiana.

Jill
Victor Martinez - 12 Mar 2005 14:00 GMT
> According to chef Paul Prudhomme, if you add bell peppers (obviously
> you have to like them first) a dish will not keep well for leftovers.

That's silly. My gumbo and ettoufee taste better the next day!

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O J - 12 Mar 2005 14:29 GMT
>> According to chef Paul Prudhomme, if you add bell peppers (obviously
>> you have to like them first) a dish will not keep well for leftovers.
>
>That's silly. My gumbo and ettoufee taste better the next day!

I don't think he was talking about the next day.  If I recall
correctly, he was speaking in terms of several days to a week.  A big
crock pot of bean soup will last me that long (remember, I'm the only
one who eats it), but gumbo or ettoufee -- I don't make that much and
it's gone in no time.

MMmmmm ettoufee!!

Regards and Purrs,
O J
cajunprincess - 12 Mar 2005 22:40 GMT
> >> According to chef Paul Prudhomme, if you add bell peppers (obviously
> >> you have to like them first) a dish will not keep well for leftovers.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> one who eats it), but gumbo or ettoufee -- I don't make that much and
> it's gone in no time.

I agree that things like beans and rice, gumbo, etc. are usually better
the next day bell peppers notwithstanding.  I don't keep anything in a
refrigerator for more than three days-if I don't think I can eat it all
in three days, I freeze the excess.  I can well imagine that most of
those sorts of things would be good for a week in a refrigerator.  For
me, it's more just doing something the way my mom did it when I was
growing up and not giving it a lot of thought-sort of like where I put
things in my shelves in the kitchen.

I bet if you did a survey, you'd find the vast majority of people put
their glasses, dishes, bakeware etc. in the same relative places they
were in the  kitchen when they were growing up. :-)

> MMmmmm ettoufee!!
>
> Regards and Purrs,
> O J
Marina - 16 Mar 2005 15:12 GMT
> That's silly. My gumbo and ettoufee taste better the next day!

What's ettoufee?

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Victor Martinez - 16 Mar 2005 15:38 GMT
> What's ettoufee?

CRAWFISH ETOUFFEE (Emeril Lagasse)

6 tablespoons butter
4 tablespoons flour
2 cups chopped onions
1/2 cup chopped celery
1/2 cup chopped bell pepper
6 cloves garlic, minced
2 bay leaves
2 sprigs fresh thyme
2 1/2 cups fish or shrimp stock
1 cup peeled, seeded and diced tomatoes
1 1/2 teaspoons salt
1/2 teaspoon crushed red pepper
Hot pepper sauce
2 teaspoons Worcestershire sauce
2 pounds crawfish tails, with the fat
1/2 lemon, juiced
1 cup chopped green onions
1/4 cup chopped parsley

Cooked white rice, for serving

In a large, heavy saucepan, melt 4 tablespoons of the butter and whisk
in flour to combine well. Continue to cook, stirring constantly, until
roux is a peanut butter color.

Add onions, celery, bell pepper, garlic, bay leaves, and thyme and cook
until vegetables are soft, about 6 to 8 minutes. Add stock, tomatoes,
salt, red pepper, hot sauce, and Worcestershire sauce and bring to a boil.

Skim surface, reduce heat to a simmer, and cook uncovered for 30
minutes, stirring occasionally.

Add crawfish tails and fat, lemon juice, green onions, and parsley and
cook for 15 to 20 minutes, stirring occasionally. Add remaining butter
and stir to combine well. Taste and adjust seasoning if necessary. Serve
over hot rice.

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CatNipped - 12 Mar 2005 14:01 GMT
> >Jill wrote...
> >
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> Regards and Purrs,
> O J

Strange, when I did a google search on that I got the explanation that beans
produce gas because the body can't digest the sugar contained in beans.  I
don't know why a little sugar in the beans works, it's something that's been
passed down in New Orleans recipes (which rely heavily on beans and other
gas producing foods).  I just know that it works!

Hugs,

CatNipped
Jo Firey - 12 Mar 2005 18:49 GMT
>>Jill wrote...
>>
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> Regards and Purrs,
> O J

I think Bell pepper gets a bitter flavor when its left over.

Jo
CatNipped - 12 Mar 2005 19:00 GMT
> I think Bell pepper gets a bitter flavor when its left over.
>
> Jo

I think it has a bitter flavor when it's fresh (OK, in another thread I said
there wasn't any food I didn't like, but I guess I was wrong - I just wasn't
thinking of peppers as food!!).

Hugs,

CatNipped
Victor Martinez - 11 Mar 2005 20:35 GMT
> and let it simmer for 4 hours, then serve over rice.  [The sugar is to take
> the gas-producing out of the beans.]

Interesting... in Mexico we let the beans soak in water overnight. Then
we toss the water out to prevent flatulence. :)

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CatNipped - 11 Mar 2005 21:02 GMT
> > and let it simmer for 4 hours, then serve over rice.  [The sugar is to take
> > the gas-producing out of the beans.]
>
> Interesting... in Mexico we let the beans soak in water overnight. Then
> we toss the water out to prevent flatulence. :)

LOL, I never know that far ahead what I'm going to feel like eating the next
day!  The 1/2 tsp. of sugar (or Beano) takes care of the flatulence.

Hugs,

CatNipped

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jmcquown - 11 Mar 2005 21:13 GMT
>>> and let it simmer for 4 hours, then serve over rice.  [The sugar is
>>> to take the gas-producing out of the beans.]
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>
> CatNipped

There's always the quick-soak method - boil, remove from heat, cover and let
sit 1 hour, drain, then cook.  But I gather since you simmer this 4 hours
the beans come out fine!  I'm like you - I was going to make enchiladas
yesterday and wound up making potato-leek soup instead.  Go figure!

Jill
Irulan - 11 Mar 2005 22:26 GMT
damn, it does sound good. I'll go to the supermarket tomorrow and get the
fixin's.
Jazz & his mama

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> Simple, but always good, New Orleans red beans and rice.
>
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> CatNipped
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dorothy - 12 Mar 2005 02:34 GMT
>>>Simple, but always good, New Orleans red beans and rice.

>>><snip yummy recipe>

>>>Hugs,

>>>CatNipped

Now this sounds delicious!!  I loooooove Nawlins cooking, can't wait to
try it.  Even with my limited culinary skills, I think I can handle
this one  ;-)  And I didn't even have to wade through a troll attack to
get it!

Kerrie
Christine Burel - 12 Mar 2005 03:01 GMT
DH and I were wondering how the sugar removes the gas-producing part of bean
consumption?  Anyone know?
Christine
> Simple, but always good, New Orleans red beans and rice.
>
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> CatNipped
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Julie Cook - 12 Mar 2005 05:56 GMT
> DH and I were wondering how the sugar removes the gas-producing part of bean
> consumption?  Anyone know?
> Christine

I don't know the answer to that question, but it works with tomato sauce
as well.

Julie
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 12 Mar 2005 22:02 GMT
> DH and I were wondering how the sugar removes the gas-producing part of bean
> consumption?  Anyone know?

Does it really, or is that just another urban legend?  (My
mom used a teaspoonful of baking soda for the same purpose,
but I'm not sure it was actually effective.)  There is
native American herb (grows in the American Southwest, IIRC)
that is supposed to really work, but I can't remember the
name of it.
Jo Firey - 13 Mar 2005 01:11 GMT
>> DH and I were wondering how the sugar removes the gas-producing part of
>> bean
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Southwest, IIRC) that is supposed to really work, but I can't remember the
> name of it.

The only thing I can swear works is beano.  And it is rendered ineffective
by boiling.

I'm pretty sure thorough cooking works as well at least partially.  I never
have a problem with refried beans or with baked beans.

Jo
Marina - 16 Mar 2005 15:12 GMT
> Does it really, or is that just another urban legend?  (My mom used a
> teaspoonful of baking soda for the same purpose, but I'm not sure it was
> actually effective.)  There is native American herb (grows in the
> American Southwest, IIRC) that is supposed to really work, but I can't
> remember the name of it.

I've read that thyme works, but I also soak all beans for hours and then
cook them a couple of hours, so that may take away the gassy effect.

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Tish Silberbauer - 12 Mar 2005 03:57 GMT
Sounds lovely!

Tonight I'm being inspired by RPCA and am making quesadillas
(spelling?) - flying solo (no recipe!).  Mind you, I *will* be using a
recipe to make the tortillas (I don't like the ones sold in Australian
supermarkets and I'm not afraid of wielding a rolling pin, so figure I
can make tortillas).  I have skinless chicken fillet, *loads* of
corriander / cilantro leaf, lots of wondefully ripe and tasty
tomatoes, bell pepper, homegrown chillies, onion, garlic and my MIL's
lemons (limes are horribly expensive here and our tree is still to
small to bear fruit).  I'm also going to make some cross-cultural ones
stuffed with spinach, feta cheese, cottage cheese and mint (with
onion, garlic, lemon juice and fresh-ground pepper).

Golly, that's more thought than I've put into dinner since last
weekend!

Tish  

>Simple, but always good, New Orleans red beans and rice.
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
>Yum!
O J - 12 Mar 2005 08:57 GMT
> [The sugar is to take
>the gas-producing out of the beans.]

What a great tip.  I've heard all sorts of tips on de-gassing beans.
Some have been to soak the beans overnight and then change the water.
Another is to use the product "Beano" as an additive.  I eat a lot of
legumes, so anything that helps is welcome.

The red beans and rice is a well-known N' Orleans dish, but while
we're on the subject of "The Big Easy", I can't help but notice you
refer to yourself as a "coon-a.s".  That can be a buzz-word and can be
taken as an insider's familiarity or an outsider's slur.  May I ask
why you avoid the word "Cajun"?  Acadian is another word acceptable in
all circumstances.  

If I had to guess, I'd stake money on the proposition that you feel so
at home on r.p.c.a that you can just let your hair down and use
coon-a.s.  Am I right?

Regards and Purrs,
O J
CatNipped - 12 Mar 2005 13:55 GMT
> > [The sugar is to take
> >the gas-producing out of the beans.]
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Regards and Purrs,
> O J

Yep, I do feel comfortable enough here to let my hair down.  And I use that
word as pre-emptive defense mechanism - not that that's needed here, it's
just habit.  Sort of, if you say it yourself you let people know that they
can't hurt you by using it.  I also use it with a sense of pride, if you can
understand that.  But mostly I use it because "Cajun" or "Acadian" is just
so boring!  ;>

Hugs,

CatNipped
O J - 12 Mar 2005 14:34 GMT
>Yep, I do feel comfortable enough here to let my hair down.  And I use that
>word as pre-emptive defense mechanism - not that that's needed here, it's
>just habit.  Sort of, if you say it yourself you let people know that they
>can't hurt you by using it.  I also use it with a sense of pride, if you can
>understand that.  But mostly I use it because "Cajun" or "Acadian" is just
>so boring!  ;>

Must depend on where you're coming from.  To me they don't sound
boring.  To my ears "Cajun" and "Acadian" sound exotic.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Victor Martinez - 12 Mar 2005 17:25 GMT
> understand that.  But mostly I use it because "Cajun" or "Acadian" is just
> so boring!  ;>

Let me see if I understand it. Cajun, Acadian and coon-a.s are all the
same thing? I'm confused.

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CatNipped - 12 Mar 2005 17:58 GMT
> > understand that.  But mostly I use it because "Cajun" or "Acadian" is just
> > so boring!  ;>
>
> Let me see if I understand it. Cajun, Acadian and coon-a.s are all the
> same thing? I'm confused.

Yep, and Creole too just to make it more confusing!  Actually Acadian is
used in Canada and Cajun is in Louisiana (and coon-a.s is a derogatory slang
for Cajun).  The word Cajun comes from the word Acadian (kind of like
"Injun" comes from "Indian").

Usually, the word Cajun is used to describe those French people from south
Louisiana. But the term Acadian is sometimes used; and when one looks into
it, they find that their ancestors in fact were Acadians from Canada.
Acadians and Cajuns are the same ... yet they are different. The Acadians
were French settlers who settled the area (now known as Nova Scotia) in the
1600's. In the mid 18th century, they were exiled by the British. Over the
following 30 years, several thousand of the exiled Acadians made their way
to south Louisiana.

Over the next 100+ years, the Acadians became the dominant culture in
certain areas of south Louisiana. They retained much of their culture, and
absorbed some of the other cultural influences. The German, Spanish, French,
English, Indian and other cultures added to the Acadian culture to produce
the Cajun culture. The word "Cajun" comes from the word "Acadian", just as
"Injun" is a variant of the word "Indian."

So, the Acadians were French settlers in 17th-18th century Canada. When they
were exiled, they were no longer a single group. But the Acadian people
survived in other cultures ... sometimes merging into those cultures, and
sometimes (as in south Louisiana) being a dominant culture. Today's Cajuns
may have roots that go back to the Acadians. But along the way, you will
probably find German, French, Spanish, etc. ancestors that merged with the
Acadians.

Hugs,

CatNipped

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jmcquown - 12 Mar 2005 19:56 GMT
>>> understand that.  But mostly I use it because "Cajun" or "Acadian"
>>> is just so boring!  ;>
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>
> CatNipped

Snipped excellent history lesson!  My ex-fiance, Ray, has his family on his
father's side traced back to the Acadians from Nova Scotia so although he
says he's Cajun he really is Acadian.  Throw some complication in there -
his mother was Italian.  When we met he told me his mother's name was
"Mayree".  How do you spell that?  "Marie".  LOL  Sometimes I miss hearing
him talk.  Oh, and he can call himself a Coon-a.s but you don't dare do it!

Jill
Enfilade - 13 Mar 2005 02:25 GMT
> > Yep, and Creole too just to make it more confusing!  Actually Acadian
> > is used in Canada and Cajun is in Louisiana (and coon-a.s is a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> father's side traced back to the Acadians from Nova Scotia so although he
> says he's Cajun he really is Acadian.

DP is Acadian. When the British raided his area of PEI, his family hid
in the forest, so they were never deported.

When I think of "Cajun" food, I think of gumbo, okra, and shrimp.  And
lots of hot spices.

When I think of "Acadian" food, I think of meatpie, lobsters, and
boiled dinner.

--Fil
jmcquown - 13 Mar 2005 09:46 GMT
> > > Yep, and Creole too just to make it more confusing!  Actually Acadian
> > > is used in Canada and Cajun is in Louisiana (and coon-a.s is a
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> --Fil

Oh, he cooked all kinds of stuff including highly spiced gumbo with okra and
lots of hot spices.  And also meat pies (fried) and mudbugs.  No boiled
dinners - that's strictly "you didn't grow up in Louisiana" Acadian :)

Jill
wafflycat - 14 Mar 2005 07:31 GMT
> [The sugar is to take
> the gas-producing out of the beans.]

PAH! That's taking the fun out of food! Shame on you!

Cheers, helen s ;-)

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