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Revenge for that guy wanting to hunt cats? "Cat Shoots Owner"

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Gabey8 - 10 Mar 2005 16:52 GMT
See what that guy in Wisconsin started, with his "hunting cats" referendum?
;o) The Mothership appears to have gotten the word out. Now there are
kitties declaring, "Hunt THIS!"

On a more serious note, I hope the guy's not badly hurt. Let this be a
lesson to anyone who has both weapons and cats to keep them separated.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=817&e=1&u=/ap/cat_shoots_owner

Cat Shoots Owner

BATES TOWNSHIP, Mich. - A man cooking in his kitchen was shot after one of
his cats knocked his 9mm handgun onto the floor, discharging the weapon,
Michigan State Police said.

 

Joseph Stanton, 29, of Bates Township in Iron County, was shot in his
lower torso around 6 p.m. Tuesday, the state police post in Iron River
reported. He was transported to Iron County Community Hospital.

Michelle Sand, a spokeswoman at the Iron River hospital, said Stanton was
treated there before being transferred to Marquette General Hospital for
further treatment. But Marcie Miller, a representative of the Marquette
facility, said there was no record of the hospital receiving a patient by
that name.

A telephone message seeking comment was left Wednesday at Stanton's home.

State police said he was cooking at his stove when the cat knocked the
loaded gun off the kitchen counter behind him.

Donna and the kitties who've never even seen a watergun, never mind a real
weapon, Captain and Stanley
jmcquown - 10 Mar 2005 16:58 GMT
> See what that guy in Wisconsin started, with his "hunting cats"
> referendum? ;o) The Mothership appears to have gotten the word out.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> On a more serious note, I hope the guy's not badly hurt. Let this be a
> lesson to anyone who has both weapons and cats to keep them separated.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=817&e=1&u=/ap/cat_shoots_owner

> Cat Shoots Owner
>
> BATES TOWNSHIP, Mich. - A man cooking in his kitchen was shot after
> one of his cats knocked his 9mm handgun onto the floor, discharging
> the weapon, Michigan State Police said.

Weird.  Why on earth would anyone have a loaded gun on the kitchen counter?
Is he afraid someone will break in and steal his food?

Jill
Monique Y. Mudama - 10 Mar 2005 17:07 GMT
> Weird.  Why on earth would anyone have a loaded gun on the kitchen counter?
> Is he afraid someone will break in and steal his food?

That's what I was thinking.  I've never owned a gun, but if I did it wouldn't
be sitting out where anykitty or human (or me!) could knock it down, and it
probably wouldn't be loaded.

Hope the guy heals up and that he learns not to keep his gun out where
accidents can happen.

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jmcquown - 10 Mar 2005 17:27 GMT
>> Weird.  Why on earth would anyone have a loaded gun on the kitchen
>> counter? Is he afraid someone will break in and steal his food?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Hope the guy heals up and that he learns not to keep his gun out where
> accidents can happen.

I don't own a gun, either.  But I understand there's this thing called the
'safety' on them :)  This is just rather odd.  I'm wondering if this was
just a wild story he made up to explain a gunshot wound.

Jill
dorothy - 10 Mar 2005 23:01 GMT
>>>I don't own a gun, either.  But I understand there's this thing
called the
>>>'safety' on them :)  This is just rather odd.  I'm wondering if this
was
>>>just a wild story he made up to explain a gunshot wound.

>>>Jill

LOL, I tend to agree with you on the mechanism of injury  ;-)  However,
there are guns out there without a safety (or much of one).  I have a
Glock and the safety on it is a lever on the trigger, so when you pull
the trigger you are turning the safety off  :-\  Obviously I have to be
sure to keep it under lock and key - although my daughter has been
introduced to it and understands how it works and most important how
dangerous it is, I never take any chances, and I certainly don't have
it keeping me company in the kitchen while I'm cooking dinner.....

Kerrie
CatNipped - 10 Mar 2005 23:23 GMT
> LOL, I tend to agree with you on the mechanism of injury  ;-)  However,
> there are guns out there without a safety (or much of one).  I have a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Kerrie

I don't own a gun (mainly because of my bouts of depression and my Irish
ancestry - DH doesn't trust my temper ;>), but I made a point of teaching my
kids all about them when they were very young.  Knowledge is power!!!  You
may not have guns, or you may keep yours safely locked away, but your idiot
neighbor whose kids your kids play with might have one sitting out.  It's
better that they know about them and what they can do.  My grandkids can
recite gun safety rules at the drop of a hat - even the youngest who is 5!

Hugs,

CatNipped
O J - 10 Mar 2005 23:56 GMT
Jill wrote:

>I don't own a gun, either.  But I understand there's this thing called the
>'safety' on them :)  This is just rather odd.  I'm wondering if this was
>just a wild story he made up to explain a gunshot wound.

I think you may have it.  As a long time gun nut, this story raises
the needle on  my BS meter.  It sounds like a "The dog ate my
homework." tale to me.  Pistols are 'drop tested' by manufacturers
before they are sold to the public.  If it was a .45, I'd be more
inclined to believe it, since they are much more likely to be
customized with a light trigger pull, and the action is usually kept
in a different state of readiness.

I suspect that something stupid occurred and the person pointed the
finger at his cat.  Not that I blame him, if it happened to me, I'd
blame the cat too.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
hobbs - 11 Mar 2005 09:54 GMT
I had to laugh at a memory this brought back, when my son was about 15 or 16
he had a bottle of that red stuff you paint on wounds, I forget the name,
and *I* Had a new carpet with a white background, when I got home from work
one night there was a long streak of red on the carpet,
the Blythe answer to 'what happened ' was ' Panther jumped on the table
while I was using it and knocked it off,'I didn't believe it of course, and
eventually, he laughingly confessed,poor Panther.   Jean.P.

> Jill wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Regards and Purrs,
> O J
L. (usenetlyn) - 11 Mar 2005 00:27 GMT
> >> Weird.  Why on earth would anyone have a loaded gun on the kitchen
> >> counter? Is he afraid someone will break in and steal his food?
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Jill

IMO, it's just natural selection.  I have little tolerance for firearms
of any kind...

-L.
Margaret Fine - 10 Mar 2005 17:40 GMT
> See what that guy in Wisconsin started, with his "hunting cats" referendum?
> ;o) The Mothership appears to have gotten the word out. Now there are
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> Donna and the kitties who've never even seen a watergun, never mind a real
> weapon, Captain and Stanley

The funny thing is that part of Michigan used to be Wisconsin.  I guess
the cats didn't hear about the change back in 1836 after the "Toledo
War" between Ohio and Michigan and thought the guy was fair game.  :-)

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:-\) Liz - 10 Mar 2005 19:31 GMT
This story reminds me of one I heard at work a couple of years ago...a
fellow worker of ours came in limping and not sitting nor bending
much....seems while opening the closet door ...somehow his shotgun fell out
...went off just as he turned his back to the closet and he got buckshot all
across his rear and back and such......SUUUUUUURRRRREEEE...later it came out
that his wife had come home unexpectily and found him...."engaged" with
another woman...thus the wound! :-) Liz (who now slinks back to her dark
corner to lurk once more...life has grabbed at me too much recently so I've
been quiet alot)
> See what that guy in Wisconsin started, with his "hunting cats" referendum?
> ;o) The Mothership appears to have gotten the word out. Now there are
> kitties declaring, "Hunt THIS!"
>
> On a more serious note, I hope the guy's not badly hurt. Let this be a
> lesson to anyone who has both weapons and cats to keep them separated.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=817&e=1&u=/ap/cat_shoots_owner

> Cat Shoots Owner
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Donna and the kitties who've never even seen a watergun, never mind a real
> weapon, Captain and Stanley
Magic Mood Jeep? - 11 Mar 2005 13:23 GMT
> See what that guy in Wisconsin started, with his "hunting cats"
> referendum? ;o) The Mothership appears to have gotten the word out.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Cat Shoots Owner

<Snippage>

He opened his can-o-worms, but now he can't deal with what's crawled out of
it.

http://www.theindychannel.com/family/4274951/detail.html

LA CROSSE, Wis. -- The Wisconsin man who's asked the state to allow hunters
to kill stray cats says he's been getting death threats.
Mark Smith told La Crosse police he's gotten angry phone calls and messages
at work and at home.

Police reports said one call made while Smith was working at the La Crosse
Fire Department suggested it should be "open season on firefighters."
Another woman told Smith that if the state Legislature approved his request
Smith would be hunted down and killed.

Smith has asked the Wisconsin Conservation Congress to vote on his proposal
at an April 11 meeting. That vote would be advisory. The Legislature would
have to consider the proposal before cats could be hunted.

Smith has proposed that any cat not under the owner's direct control or
wearing a collar should be considered fair game for hunters with small-game
licenses.

Cat enthusiasts are trying to organize opposition to Smith's proposal. Ted
O'Donnell, a co-owner of MadCat Pet Supplies, has said the proposal is a
"callous response" to the problem of cats preying on wild birds. He recently
set up a Web site to inform people about it.

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jmcquown - 12 Mar 2005 00:30 GMT
Tweed!!  Why on earth are you calling this man and making threats? <EBG>
(You know I'm kidding!)

Jill

>> See what that guy in Wisconsin started, with his "hunting cats"
>> referendum? ;o) The Mothership appears to have gotten the word out.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> lesson to anyone who has both weapons and cats to keep them
>> separated.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=817&e=1&u=/ap/cat_shoots_owner

>> Cat Shoots Owner
>
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
> nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com
> http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep
Christina Websell - 13 Mar 2005 23:21 GMT
> Tweed!!  Why on earth are you calling this man and making threats? <EBG>
> (You know I'm kidding!)
>
> Jill

<g>   That's not my style.  It may be enough for him to find out from my
phone call that his activities are known in England. Anyway, that's what I
hoped.  Because of that he can expect a lot of flack.
I am relying on you Merkins to keep me updated on what's happening about
this.  It won't be on our news.
I have not ruled out phoning him again if I don't hear from you lot that
he's changed his mind about allowing cats to be shot.

Tweed
Lesley Madigan - 14 Mar 2005 14:31 GMT
> <g>   That's not my style.  It may be enough for him to find out from my
> phone call that his activities are known in England. Anyway, that's what I
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Tweed

Tweed

Does this explain why my phone bill has gone through the roof with all
these calls to Wisconsin?....Note to SO, do not leave the kitties in
the living room at night because "They're asleep and I don't want to
wake them up". They are not asleep they are only pretending....

Lesley

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crazy.pikachu@gmail.com - 16 Mar 2005 18:25 GMT
Hey cats make great moving targets and my theory is that the bloodier
the cat the better
Mary - 16 Mar 2005 19:47 GMT
> Hey cats make great moving targets and my theory is that the bloodier
> the cat the better

This is such an old troll, bubba.

Time for recipes, gang?
CatNipped - 16 Mar 2005 19:59 GMT
Since we've been talking Cajun recently...

"Basic" Jambalaya

1 pounds Black Forest honey ham, cubed
1 1/2 pounds smoked Cajun sausage, sliced 1/4" thick
1/2 pounds mild smoked sausage, sliced 1/4" thick
1 pound cooked chicken breast, cubed
1 large onion, chopped
1 roasted red bell pepper, chopped
1/4 cup fresh parsley, chopped
2 ribs celery, chopped
5 cloves garlic, chopped
1 14-oz. can diced tomato, slightly drained
1 teaspoon dried thyme
2 bay leaves
1 teaspoon Cajun seasoning, or to taste
salt and black pepper
2 cups uncooked long-grain rice
2 1/2 cups chicken stock or water
1/2 cup dry red wine (optional)

In a large heavy-bottomed skillet with a tight cover, brown the sausage.
Pour off the excess drippings. Add the onion and stir over medium heat until
slightly soft, about 3 minutes. Add the ham, chicken, roasted red pepper,
parsley, celery, garlic, tomato, thyme, bay leaves, Cajun seasoning, salt
and pepper. Bring to a boil and cook, stirring, for about 5 minutes.

Add the rice and chicken stock or water and stir well. Cover and simmer over
low heat for 20 minutes, or until the rice is almost done. Do not uncover
until you check for doneness, near the end.

Add the wine, if you're using it (if you're not, you may or may not have to
add a bit more water). Simmer over medium heat for another 5 minutes,
stirring constantly.

Fluff with a fork and serve.

Serves 8.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Mary - 16 Mar 2005 20:03 GMT
> Since we've been talking Cajun recently...
>
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>
> CatNipped

Ooooooo! I'm thinking Saturday's dinner! Where do you
get Black Forest Honey Ham??
CatNipped - 16 Mar 2005 20:13 GMT
> > Since we've been talking Cajun recently...
> >
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> Ooooooo! I'm thinking Saturday's dinner! Where do you
> get Black Forest Honey Ham??

Rice Village Logan Farms Honey Glazed Hams & Market Cafe (in Houston, Tx).
Do you have a Logan Farms Market near you?

Hugs,

CatNipped
Ingold - 12 Mar 2005 10:03 GMT
>See what that guy in Wisconsin started, with his "hunting cats" referendum?
>;o) The Mothership appears to have gotten the word out. Now there are
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>Donna and the kitties who've never even seen a watergun, never mind a real
>weapon, Captain and Stanley

Having been an avid target shooter and handgun collector for 25 years, I
can state that the story as written is virtually certain not to be true.

I've owned, or still own, over 50 handguns over the years. I have
completely disassembled many of them down to the last spring and pin. I
know how they work. I have heavily modified military service 9mm
semiautomatic pistols to deliver target accuracy

Semiautomatic 9mm handguns simply do not discharge when knocked to the
floor, as described.

However, idiots shoot themselves,  frequently.

Why not blame the cat, so everyone doesn't think he is as stupid as he
actually is.

Nice story, but as written, it just doesn't't fit the facts, and the
real world of how semiautomatic pistols work.

Now, if it was a single action revolver, lacking a firing pin block or
transfer bar ignition, it would be very possible for this to happen.
Tanada - 13 Mar 2005 23:01 GMT
> Cat Shoots Owner
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> lower torso around 6 p.m. Tuesday, the state police post in Iron River
> reported. He was transported to Iron County Community Hospital.

Ahh, a possible Darwin Award Honorable Mention.  Stupid idgit.

Pam S.

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