Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of hurting
her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble pilling a cat, but
I have never had to give medicine in a dropper before. Bandit jerks her
head right when you start to squeeze the dropper - then she drools what
little medicine gets in her mouth. DH, Bandit and I all end up wearing more
Clavimix than when gets down her throat.
Any suggestions?
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Cheryl - 10 Mar 2005 02:46 GMT
> Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid
> of hurting her when we try to force it down her. I have no
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I'd suggest the pill form, but I've never had a cat yet that could
tolarate the pill form of clavamox. Tough on the tummy. I'm not
talking diarrhea, but vomiting.
If she'll take baby food, I'd try mixing the dose into a big
spoonful of baby food and spoonfeed it to her in tiny amounts. Let
her lick it off the spoon.
I know it's important not to waste doses, so if that doesn't work
you need Plan B soon. Good luck!

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JBHajos - 10 Mar 2005 13:48 GMT
>I'd suggest the pill form, but I've never had a cat yet that could
>tolarate the pill form of clavamox. Tough on the tummy. I'm not
>talking diarrhea, but vomiting.
I know what you mean. Our Hobo was given Clavamox pills for an
abscess and would become violently ill every time. When I called the
vet about it, I was told to stop giving them and they'd prescribe
something else. The different antibiotic worked beautifully - and it
was also noted on his file that he was never to be prescribed Clavamox
again - apparently allergic to it.
I've rarely ever had to give liquid meds. A few months ago,
Speckles *did* get them and darn near broke her neck, she fought it so
hard. She got pills for her recent UTI - no problem at all. Perhaps
Bandit would do better with the pill form, if the good ideas presented
by other posters don't work.
Jeanne
Lorna - 10 Mar 2005 02:47 GMT
> Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of hurting
> her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble pilling a cat,
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Wish I had some positive advice for you but had to give my Chessie Clavamix
in pill form a year ago and the experience was just horrible. Didn't taste
them myself but believe they are very bitter - Chessie would drool, foam at
the mouth, spit, and fight like a tiger - if I ever had to use this medicine
again, would ask the vet.....well, I don't know what exactly - it should
come coated in pill form so the poor kitties could get it down.
Wishing Bandit, CatNipped & DH the very best with special purrs for
Bandit........Lorna & the Chesniks
Gabey8 - 10 Mar 2005 06:18 GMT
[[Didn't taste them myself but believe they are very bitter - Chessie would
drool, foam at the mouth, spit, and fight like a tiger - if I ever had to
use this medicine again, would ask the vet.....well, I don't know what
exactly - it should come coated in pill form so the poor kitties could get
it down.]]
Eons ago, I got advice on the old rec.pets.cats board about using empty
gelatin caps to pill a cat.
Get gelatin caps, like the kind that people who create their own herbal
med doses use, and insert the cat pill in it. Cut or grind the pill if
necessary to fit it in the gelatin cap.
Then pill the cat with THAT. It helps on several levels: the cat can't
taste foul-tasting pills, and if they spit it out during the pilling
procedure, it won't be half-dissolved so you'll be able to try again.
On the other hand, this particular medicine is liquid... is there a way
the vet can suggest for you to aim the syringe, so more of the medicine
goes in? How about mixing the medicine with food and feeding it to her?
Or how about mixing it with food and then feeding the FOOD via a syringe,
if she doesn't want to eat it on her own? The food might be easier to
control than the liquid medication.
Keep us posted. Sending "take those meds" purrs out for Bandit and you.
Donna, Captain, and Stanley
Lorna - 10 Mar 2005 18:32 GMT
> [[Didn't taste them myself but believe they are very bitter - Chessie
> would
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> med doses use, and insert the cat pill in it. Cut or grind the pill if
> necessary to fit it in the gelatin cap.
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> Keep us posted. Sending "take those meds" purrs out for Bandit and you.>
> Donna, Captain, and Stanley
What a good idea - thanks for sharing..............Lorna
Karen - 10 Mar 2005 02:54 GMT
> Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of hurting
> her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble pilling a cat, but
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I have always had success wrapping in a towel first with only head showing.
When squirting in mouth, go in from the side toward back of mouth. HTH.
Lorna - 10 Mar 2005 02:52 GMT
>> Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of
>> hurting
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> showing.
> When squirting in mouth, go in from the side toward back of mouth. HTH.
Karen's message reminded me that with the Clavamix pill, the vet said to get
her mouth open wide and get the pill as far back as possible so hopefully
she would swallow before the dreadful taste overwhelmed her....Lorna
Dan M - 10 Mar 2005 03:02 GMT
> Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of hurting
> her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble pilling a cat, but
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>
> Any suggestions?
Does Bandit like yogurt? You might be able to get away with mixing the
clavamox with yogurt.
Christine Burel - 10 Mar 2005 13:42 GMT
> > Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of hurting
> > her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble pilling a cat, but
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> Does Bandit like yogurt? You might be able to get away with mixing the
> clavamox with yogurt.
You might ask your vet if using Amoxycillin liquid (pink) would work as
well -- I found it much easier to give to my cats because the taste is not
too bad -- I was able to acclimate Tucker to taking it from a spoon by
putting vanilla yogurt on the front end of a spoon, and adding a few drops
of meds at the back of the spoon. Then I'd add more yogurt until the med
dose was used up in this way. I'd suggest first starting out with a
totally clean spoon of vanilla
yogurt and let Bandit lick it all down first. I don't know if this will
work with the Clavamox. I did have to switch one of my cats, (Omar, who has
IBD) from Clavamox to Amoxycillin because he got tummy upset from the
Clavamox as it is harsher on the digestive tract, so watch for that.
I have to give Omar metronidazole daily for his IBD and now Midnight is
getting Clomipramine liquid daily, which apparently tastes really bad. I
always follow up with pieces of ham as rewards.
Email me if I can help in any way.
Christine
Mischief - 10 Mar 2005 03:11 GMT
hehehehehe, I know what it's like to give a cat Clavamox, especially a
cat that does NOT want it. I think I mention in a previous Vet tech
Journals how it took me and three other tech to medicate this cat.
Best thing I can suggest is scruff her with one hand, and have the
dropper in the other. Use the arm that is scruffing her and use your
forearm to lay against her spine. In a sense, she's lying in lateral
recumbency, and your forearm is also on the floor/table or whatever
surface. The forearm will help keep her from struggling, and make sure
you really tilt her head back; This should help keep her from jerking
her head too much. Have your DH also hold the back legs because those
can get you too.
Now she's going to REALLY fuss, so watch out for those front paws.
Gently work the dropper into the corner of her mouth and squirt a
LITTLE bit of it in, behind her tongue if you can. Then back off with
the dropper and let her smack/growl/swallow, whatever, for a few
seconds. Then keep repeating little by little until you're done.
Just how much to give is your call. I do know if you try to squirt it
all in on one try, she'll spit out most of it. two or three doses
should be okay.
It's REALLY IMPORTANT to have your forearm level with the body on the
table and right up against her spine, and her head tilted back. If you
cannot hold her and dose her at the same time, get a third person.
Bandit sounds like the kind of cat that would take at least two people
to hold.
That's the best advice I can give, because that is what me and my
classmates or coworkers would probably do. When we're learning to do
this, a lot of students are afraid of holding the cat too tightly or
hurting the cat. I'm afraid that in a situation like this, you can't
afford let up. If I were holding Bandit, I would take her and hang on
for dear life. If she's going to be such a brat, then you're going to
have to play rough too.
Hope this helps. Be careful!!
Kristi
Cheryl - 10 Mar 2005 03:30 GMT
> Just how much to give is your call. I do know if you try to
> squirt it all in on one try, she'll spit out most of it. two or
> three doses should be okay.
Exactly. If you have to give a liquid med, don't try to squirt it all
in one shot. Squeeze a little tiny bit in first, then let kitty
swallow, then a little more, repeat until it is all in. And give
kitty love and pets and gentle words during, and a treat afterwards,
if it fits with the dietary needs/requirements/allowed-foods.

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Jo Firey - 10 Mar 2005 04:24 GMT
> Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of hurting
> her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble pilling a cat,
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>
> Any suggestions?
At least what she ends up wearing she ends up licking off eventually right?
No suggestions. I always have trouble giving cats liquid meds.
Jo
Stormin Mormon - 10 Mar 2005 04:44 GMT
Drip it into her fur near where her tail connects. She'll lick it all down.

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Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of hurting
her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble pilling a cat, but
I have never had to give medicine in a dropper before. Bandit jerks her
head right when you start to squeeze the dropper - then she drools what
little medicine gets in her mouth. DH, Bandit and I all end up wearing more
Clavimix than when gets down her throat.
Any suggestions?
--
Hugs,
CatNipped
http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/
O J - 10 Mar 2005 07:18 GMT
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> DH, Bandit and I all end up wearing more
>Clavimix than when gets down her throat.
>
>Any suggestions?
Sorry, the last time I tried, with DH's help, to give liquid to a cat
was when my beloved Misty needed some antibiotics. She struggled so
hard that when I had the dropper in her mouth, she tore out one of her
upper fangs, poor baby, trying to shake her head. We felt so bad, but
we just kept trying to get as much as of it down her as we could.
Regards and Purrs,
O J
Cheryl Perkins - 10 Mar 2005 13:51 GMT
> Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of hurting
> her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble pilling a cat, but
> I have never had to give medicine in a dropper before. Bandit jerks her
> head right when you start to squeeze the dropper - then she drools what
> little medicine gets in her mouth. DH, Bandit and I all end up wearing more
> Clavimix than when gets down her throat.
> Any suggestions?
I gave Mandy The Dreaded Pink Stuff (amoxy) using a needle-less syringe,
which is much the same sort of idea. Doing it as quickly as possible and
putting the tip of the syringe in the corner of her mouth instead of
between the front fangs seemed to help a bit.
She did develop a remarkable ability to spit and drool, but she got better
so I figured enough got inside her to do its job. Maybe when they tell you
how much to give they allow a bit extra for drooling.

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Ted Davis - 10 Mar 2005 13:52 GMT
>Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of hurting
>her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble pilling a cat, but
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>
>Any suggestions?
A syringe instead of a dropper. Much better control and much easier
to operate.
T.E.D. (tdavis@gearbox.maem.umr.edu)
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Smokie Darling (Annie) - 10 Mar 2005 15:18 GMT
> Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of hurting
> her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble pilling a cat, but
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Actually, that's the stuff that Tuppence gets once a month (antibiotic
pulse) for a week. She likes her mixed with baby food (Beef or
Chicken) and hot water to make the baby food runny and warm.
When I forget, like I did this morning. She reminds me it's medicine
time, by standing on her hind end, and running her paws behind her ears
(almost like a rabbit or squirrel), until I look at the calendar. She
even knows what day of the month (10th), she's supposed to get it.
Smokie Darling (Annie)--slave to Tuppence who used to be called
"Tasmanian Devilcat" by the vets.
CatNipped - 10 Mar 2005 15:39 GMT
> Actually, that's the stuff that Tuppence gets once a month (antibiotic
> pulse) for a week. She likes her mixed with baby food (Beef or
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> Smokie Darling (Annie)--slave to Tuppence who used to be called
> "Tasmanian Devilcat" by the vets.
WOW! I can't imagine Bandit ever *wanting* that stuff - she foams at the
mouth after we give it to her!! Smart kitty!!!
Hugs,
CatNipped
jmcquown - 10 Mar 2005 18:00 GMT
> Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of
> hurting her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble
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>
> Any suggestions?
I agree with the suggestions to squirt small amounts in the corner of her
mouth after securely holding her to your body with your arm. She'll have to
swallow, may struggle, but it's better than just trying to squirt it all in
at once.
Jill
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 10 Mar 2005 18:19 GMT
> Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of hurting
> her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble pilling a cat, but
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Hmmm, I tried to answer this before, and it didn't show up. If it does
after this, I apologize.
Tuppence (my FIV kitty) gets Clavamix for one week every month, to
prevent abscesses in her teeth.
In fact, she reminded me this morning that it was time (10th of every
month) when I'd forgotten. She sits on her haunches and rubs her paws
behind her ears, like a rabbit or a squirrel.
I mix it with baby food (beef or chicken are her favorites) and enough
warm water (about two spoon fulls) to make it runny. She just scarfs
it down that way.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
mlbriggs - 10 Mar 2005 18:35 GMT
> Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of hurting
> her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble pilling a cat, but
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>
> Any suggestions?
Just a suggestion: Practice with water or something flavored. Sit her on
a counter and put the dropper in the side of her mouth. If it tastes good
she might accept the next drops without a struggle. Practice. MLB
Susan M - 10 Mar 2005 21:10 GMT
My vet pills my cats for free if I can't do it. When DH is away, I take the
boys in to TED's if they need pills. Only DH seems to be able to do it.
Susan M
Otis and Chester
> Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of hurting
> her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble pilling a cat,
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Karen AKA Kajikit - 10 Mar 2005 21:40 GMT
>Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of hurting
>her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble pilling a cat, but
>I have never had to give medicine in a dropper before. Bandit jerks her
>head right when you start to squeeze the dropper - then she drools what
>little medicine gets in her mouth. DH, Bandit and I all end up wearing more
>Clavimix than when gets down her throat.
There's only one way to get Scout and Silver to take a liquid medicine
- mix it with kittenmilk! It doesn't matter what flavour it is, once
you add it to a tablespoon of that special kittenmilk they lap it all
up :)
~Karen aka Kajikit
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Howard Berkowitz - 10 Mar 2005 22:39 GMT
The truly frustrating version of medicine was Clifford (RB) and
pediatric amoxicillin. He'd struggle against getting the dose of the
strawberries-and-cream flavored medicine, but once it actually went in,
he'd do a doubletake, lick his lips, and look at me saying "more?" Of
course, could I convince him to lick it from the spoon to begin with?
Perish the thought!
Seriously, I do find a blunt syringe far easier to use than a dropper.
Once you have it lined up, you can squirt with enough pressure that
there isn't too much alternative to swallowing. I also find it easier
to handle than a dropper.
Most drugstores sell them for dosing children. I've also gotten some
with a curved tip from vets, which may be easier to use with specific
cats and specific peoples' grips.
Increasingly, I wonder whether there should be greater use of
subcutaneously injected, rather than oral, drugs with cats. SC injection
may very well be easier. If the drug would burn on injection, or need
intramuscular or intravenous injection, that's quite another matter and
isn't a job for people without substantial training. Even with people, I
can give IM or IV, but it's not going to be the fairly tolerable
experience it is with someone that does it constantly.
hobbs - 11 Mar 2005 01:10 GMT
Lori have you tried putting the syringe right to the side of her mouth,
thats how we were taught to give it to small babies and it worked for my
cats too they dont seem to fight it as much, as pouring it down the
middle of their throat makes them gag and bring it back, its worth
a try anyway Hugs, and morePurrs to Bandit. Jean.
> Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid of hurting
> her when we try to force it down her. I have no trouble pilling a cat, but
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bobbelois - 28 May 2006 16:45 GMT
CatNipped Wrote:
> Bandit *HATES* the Clavamix. She fights it so badly I'm afraid o
> hurting
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> CatNipped
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The best way is to grab cat by scruff of neck (like the mother used t
carry it), then turn the cat so it is facing you. It will "freeze"
the mouth is slightly open. Then just squirt the medicine in & the ca
will swallow it. This was shown to me by a Vet's assistant, & I hav
used it successfully
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bobbelois