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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / March 2005Where is Helen S. ?
Are she and family on holiday? Is she here and I have missed seeing her? Charleen > Are she and family on holiday? Is she here and I have missed seeing her? > > Charleen I'm here :-) Honestly I can't keep up with the number of posts on the NG, so am doing mostly lurking these days. The felines are all well, which is the important thing. Waffles rules the roost. Francis is doing very well on his daily beta-blocker - you wouldn't know he's a chronic renal disease cat. Marble is,well, Marble - cat of small brain and large disaster area ;-) Vernon is well - Nathan is well, I'm well - 41lbs lighter than at the middle of December but am plateauing on the weightloss... AAAGGGHHH!!! Cheers, helen s > Vernon is well - Nathan is well, I'm well - 41lbs lighter than at the middle > of December but am plateauing on the weightloss... AAAGGGHHH!!! Plateaus happen. 41 lb is awesome; how far are you from your goal? You might be able to kickstart your metabolism by trying a different type of exercise than you usually do? Just a thought; not sure if it would work. I've noticed since starting my kickboxing (sort of) class in December that I haven't lost weight, but my body shape is changing; muscle replacing fat, I assume. Any signs that maybe your weight has plateaued (oof, what a word) but your body is still changing?  Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >I've noticed since starting my kickboxing (sort of) class in December ... I think I read you mention your "kickboxing (sort of)" someplace else as well. How do you do "kickboxing (sort of)"? Are you supposed to just be boxing but cheat? Don't your opponent and the referee get a little upset? <G> Regards and Purrs, O J >>I've noticed since starting my kickboxing (sort of) class in December ... > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Regards and Purrs, O J Oh ... Well, I'll try to make this short, but I apologize in advance because I adore talking about martial arts and get few chances to do it, so I tend to have trouble shutting up. To me, kickboxing = mu thai, a specific and particularly brutal/bad@$$ martial art. I have a long history of taekwondo interspersed with a few months here and there of other arts, and a few long gaps where I wasn't practicing at all. So, when I hear about kickboxing, I think of two things: the "real" kickboxing, mu thai, which almost no one in the US means when they talk about kickboxing; and the "fake" kickboxing, which seems to me to be a form of glorified taebo, which is already a diluted (in my opinion dangerously so) form of a striking martial art.[1] The class I attend fits into neither of these two categories. I was burned badly in a contract dispute with my old martial arts studio, and I simply refuse to sign a contract anymore for the privelege of taking martial arts classes. There's more to it, but that's the simple version. Most schools require a contract, so I haven't been able to affiliate myself with a school properly. And I guess my ego has been too great to consider dropping in to one of the above-mentioned "fake" kickboxing classes. Then a friend of mine, new to the area and looking for a martial arts school, found a kickboxing class and asked if I'd like to join her. It turns out to be exactly what I need -- no contracts or commitments. It's an aerobic workout using real TKD moves. It's set to music, which weirded me out at first but which I've come to enjoy. The instructor is a real martial artist, so he insists that we use proper technique and comes up with plausible combinations. The majority of the students are taking it as a supplement to the TKD classes offered at the school, with a handful who, like me, have experience in martial arts and want a good workout without all the baggage. It's a good class. I should mention that we don't spar in this class. Occasionally we do some more dynamic drills, but we never really spar (except for a minute or two in the last class, when the instructor encouraged me to spar with him, and that was light-contact and really just for fun; he didn't do it with any of the other students). If we sparred in the class and I had some strong opponents, that would make the class perfect for me. So, anyway, long story short, to me, kickboxing = mu thai, and what we're doing isn't mu thai, hence "sort of" kickboxing. [1] I should point out that this distinction is a bit hypocritical, because a lot of martial artists believe that TKD itself is a poser art, mostly because the vast majority of TKD schools really are utter crap (or call themselves karate). Find a good one, though, and you can learn a lot. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >Well, I'll try to make this short, but I apologize in advance because I adore >talking about martial arts and get few chances to do it, so I tend to have >trouble shutting up. You and me both. I could ramble ad nauseam. >To me, kickboxing = mu thai, a specific and particularly brutal/bad@$$ martial >art. Mui Thai (as I've mostly seen it spelled, pardon me if we spell it differently) is undoubtedly the toughest and probably as good a way to fight with boxing gloves that there is. >I have a long history of taekwondo interspersed with a few months here and >there of other arts, and a few long gaps where I wasn't practicing at all. ---------------------<snip>---------------------- >The class I attend fits into neither of these two categories. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >properly. And I guess my ego has been too great to consider dropping in to >one of the above-mentioned "fake" kickboxing classes. To thine own self be true! On the other hand, commuting forever to get to a dojo is a pain. >Then a friend of mine, new to the area and looking for a martial arts school, >found a kickboxing class and asked if I'd like to join her. It turns out to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >experience in martial arts and want a good workout without all the baggage. >It's a good class. Sounds like a good combination. Normally, an instructor making changes to the art raises doubts, but you said he also teaches straight Tae Kwan Do, so my impulse would be to go for it. >I should mention that we don't spar in this class. Occasionally we do some >more dynamic drills, but we never really spar (except for a minute or two in >the last class, when the instructor encouraged me to spar with him, and that >was light-contact and really just for fun; he didn't do it with any of the >other students). If we sparred in the class and I had some strong opponents, >that would make the class perfect for me. Freesparring is something I never really enjoyed. If you pay attention though, it will point out your weaknesses. Me, I tend to lean back and cover up too much in response to a high attack with the hands. >So, anyway, long story short, to me, kickboxing = mu thai, and what we're >doing isn't mu thai, hence "sort of" kickboxing. Gotcha! >[1] I should point out that this distinction is a bit hypocritical, >because a lot of martial artists believe that TKD itself is a poser art, >mostly because the vast majority of TKD schools really are utter crap >(or call themselves karate). Find a good one, though, and you can learn >a lot. Since Tae Kwan Do became an Olympic event, it's been one of the more visible arts. That makes it prone to posers opening schools to 'get the cash'. I have no problem with Tae Kwan Do being an event. Any karate or kick-boxing practitioner can aspire to compete, it's just that the matches and scoring will be done by Tae Kwan Do rules and use standard Tae Kwan Do equipment. As to my personal opinion, if you want to get tough, the "Way of Korean Hands" is as good as any -- very strong on free sparring and very oriented toward practical techniques. I myself am just a beginner at Hakko-Ryu JuJutsu, I only have a first grade of black belt. I had tried a few other arts and have lower colored belts in Go-Ju (hard - soft) karate, Aikido, and a little Judo, but the JuJutsu seemed to suit me. I told you I could ramble as well as anyone! Anyway, thanks for clearing that up. Regards and Purrs, O J >Well, I'll try to make this short, but I apologize in advance because I adore >talking about martial arts and get few chances to do it, so I tend to have >trouble shutting up. You and me both. I could ramble ad nauseam. >To me, kickboxing = mu thai, a specific and particularly brutal/bad@$$ martial >art. Mui Thai (as I've mostly seen it spelled, pardon me if we spell it differently) is undoubtedly the toughest and probably as good a way to fight with boxing gloves that there is. >So, when I hear about kickboxing, I think of two things: the "real" >kickboxing, mu thai, which almost no one in the US means when they talk about [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >(or call themselves karate). Find a good one, though, and you can learn >a lot. >>Well, I'll try to make this short, but I apologize in advance because I >>adore talking about martial arts and get few chances to do it, so I tend to >>have trouble shutting up. > > You and me both. I could ramble ad nauseam. [snip] I had more stuff to say, but I figured no one else here would be interested, so I mailed it to you directly. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > I've noticed since starting my kickboxing (sort of) class in December that I > haven't lost weight, but my body shape is changing; muscle replacing fat, I > assume.// I've had this problem since I started seriously skating and playing ice-hockey on a daily basis. I feel great and look good, but there's this little voice in the back of my head that equates weight with fat. (If that makes sense). So I solve the little voice, and eat chocolate. ;o) Helen M (Who lost 54lbs last year) > > I've noticed since starting my kickboxing (sort of) class in December that I > > haven't lost weight, but my body shape is changing; muscle replacing fat, I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > this little voice in the back of my head that equates weight with fat. > (If that makes sense). This happened when I began weight training without dieting. I built muscle under the layer of fat, which was not budging. It was scary enought that I did cardio while dieting and skipped the weight training for a while. > So I solve the little voice, and eat chocolate. ;o) > > Helen M (Who lost 54lbs last year) Wow, that is wonderful!! > > > I've noticed since starting my kickboxing (sort of) class in December > that I [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Wow, that is wonderful!! What she said, good for you and your health! Charleen > > > > I've noticed since starting my kickboxing (sort of) class in December > > that I [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Charleen Also if Helen does not mind I would love to know how she did it. >> I've noticed since starting my kickboxing (sort of) class in December that >> I haven't lost weight, but my body shape is changing; muscle replacing fat, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Helen M (Who lost 54lbs last year) Well, I don't think I look good, and I'm very sure that I have extra weight that doesn't help with my already-troublesome knees, at the very least. But right now I'm averaging two nights of martial arts and one of ice hockey a week, not much else. Last summer I rode my mountain bike almost every day, but I'm not sure that was actually healthy for me ... Right now, I'm very confused as to what to do to combine fat loss with exercise. I used to think they go hand in hand, but now I'm reading that I could be very wrong. I documented at least some of my confusion here: http://forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=2299 Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca "Monique Y. Mudama" <spam@bounceswoosh.org> wrote : > Right now, I'm very confused as to what to do to combine fat loss with > exercise. I used to think they go hand in hand, but now I'm reading that I > could be very wrong. Eat less, move more. It always works, at least for me. > "Monique Y. Mudama" <spam@bounceswoosh.org> wrote : >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Eat less, move more. It always works, at least for me. It's the "at least for me" part that's key =P Last year, I tried eating less (well, to be honest, less fat, not necessarily fewer calories), move more theory in extremis; in the beginning, I felt great, but by the end of the summer, while I'd lost weight, I'd lost no body fat (according to the calipers) and I was constantly sick and exhausted. My reading now suggests that restricting fat intake when I was working out so much was probably responsible for my illness and weakness. The body needs fat to perform well. But that's in direct contradiction to the book on nutrition I was reading at the time. There's this disturbing study where men and women trained for a marathon over 18 months. All of the individuals ran 50 miles a week. Over that time, the women increased their calorie intake by 50 calories per day and lost no fat. The men increased their calorie intake by 500 calories per day and lost 5 pounds of fat. Women's bodies want to be fat, to varying degrees obviously. There are other studies showing that while men are pretty good about exercising and keeping their calorie intake the same, women who exercise tend to snarf down enough extra to make up for it. Foiled at every turn! Then there's an article by Chris Carmichael about the pitfalls of trying to train hard while reducing calorie intake. Work too hard without adequate fuel, and you feel like sh*t. It's a real problem for those of us who do lots of activities for power and fun, but also want to drop fat. All of that being said, I am hoping that in a few months, depo will have shown itself to be the culprit for some amount of my fat. It's very confusing when even the nutritionists don't necessarily agree on what to do. Most published advice seems to be directed toward "those who want to lose fat and aren't concerned about performance" or "athletes," not "people who exercise for fun but also want to lose fat." The more I read, the less it feels like I really know. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca Congrats! Best wishes, SignaturePolonca & Soncek <snip> Helen M (Who lost 54lbs last year) > I've had this problem since I started seriously skating and playing > ice-hockey on a daily basis. I feel great and look good, but there's [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Helen M (Who lost 54lbs last year) I've sort of got that problem already - due to my cycling I'm slimmer at my current weight than the last time I was at this weight many years ago - all because I'm a lot fitter due to the cycling. I've now lost 44.5lbs and counting :-) Cheers, helen s Hi Helen I'm watching for updates with bated breath: I managed 46 lbs (22 kilos) but took 2 years (less exercise in bad weather over the intervening winter) and feel SO much better for it. Purrs for a successful outcome Gordon & the TT >> Helen M (Who lost 54lbs last year) >> > I've now lost 44.5lbs and counting :-) > > Cheers, helen s > Hi Helen > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Gordon & the TT Thank you - I've still got a *long* way to go. I was verging on the morbidly obese. Now I'm merely obese - but am close to the simply overweight :-) Losing it is not too difficult I find - it's the keeping it off that's the difficulty. Cheers, helen s >>> Helen M (Who lost 54lbs last year) >>> >> I've now lost 44.5lbs and counting :-) >> >> Cheers, helen s Absolutely. Self-denial & -discipline required to a high degree. A supportive family can help a LOT, & I'd guess you have one. I've been comfort eating (bikkies) since I lost Pericles and have regained 2 or 3 lbs but am plotting to increase my activity levels (not too hard now the better weather's with us at last) to compensate. Good luck 2 u 2. Purrs, Gordon & the TT > Losing it is not too difficult I find - it's the keeping it off that's > the difficulty. > > Cheers, helen s Wow, congrats! What a great achievement! You should really be proud of yourself! Best wishes, SignaturePolonca & Soncek <snip> I'm well - 41lbs lighter than at the middle > of December but am plateauing on the weightloss... AAAGGGHHH!!! > > Cheers, helen s > > Are she and family on holiday? Is she here and I have missed seeing her? > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Cheers, helen s Hi Helen, Good to hear from you and to know that all is well. Many of us are lurking these days and some have left because of the volume of posts. I'm sure glad that I am retired and have the time to read all/most all of them. Congratulations on your weight loss. Dr. Headache put me on a medicine called Topomax, which I take every night. It has resulted in fewer headaches and a 30 pound weight loss. Here's hoping I keep it off, and hope that you have no trouble keeping yours off! Good news that your owners are well. Ours are getting up there in age but are very healthy.* *AggieMarble has asmatha and takes Prendisone every other day with no problems. Mr. Pumpkin is 14, Aggie is 13, and Victor Velcro, the resident terrorist is eight years old. Why is Marble named Marble? Our Aggie Marble is named so because she is a black and silver tabby and her pattern looks similar to the large glass marbles (aggies) we played with in elementray school. It took me a bit of a while to reply to your post, sorry. My very dear father-in-law and mother-in- law hit a bad patch and I went to help them. All their children and spouses work, I was free to go. My F-I-L is an only child but very much the patriarch of the family, even though he lives here in Florida and the rest of the family is spread through the mid-West. A special Aunt passed away in Iowa, about 800 miles away. The folks decided to drive there, a three day trip. At the service my M-I-L caught her shoe heel on the door of the car while getting out. No one realized it at the time but she broke her leg. For the next two days she just took it easy thinking she sprained it. When they left to go home they both developed nasty, nasty colds. It was a terrible ride home. The second day back Carl took Jackie to the doctor where the leg was x-rayed and the break was discovered. Home they went with all kinds of med, a cast, a million questions and needing to have lots of things done. So I went over and spent a couple of days and nights helping them out. The colds are gone but her leg hurts, his back hurts. She can't cook because she in a wheelchair, and he can't cook because he can't cook. I went over again the other day and will go again to do laundry and such. They are dear sweet people. I'm rambling on here, sorry, but glad to know all is well with you and yours. Getting reading for "Sonya Had Her Kittens Party! Charleen > Hi Helen, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > hope > that you have no trouble keeping yours off! Thanks - glad to hear you have fewer headaches & weight-loss :-) A daily magnesium supplement keeps my migraines under control. > Good news that your owners are well. Ours are getting up there in age but > are very healthy.* > *AggieMarble has asmatha and takes Prendisone every other day with no > problems. Mr. Pumpkin is 14, Aggie is 13, and Victor Velcro, the > resident > terrorist is eight years old. Spooky... I used to have a cat called Aggie years ago. When I left home, my Dad refused to allow me to take Aggie - he kept her. She was the bit of me that didn't leave home :-) She was extremely well looked after by my Dad. > Why is Marble named Marble? Our Aggie Marble is named so because she is a > black and silver tabby and her pattern looks similar to the large glass > marbles (aggies) we played with in elementray school. He's stripy with swirls, a bit like the pattern in a marble cake :-) > It took me a bit of a while to reply to your post, sorry. My very dear > father-in-law and mother-in- law hit a bad patch and I went to help them. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > he can't cook because he can't cook. I went over again the other day and > will go again to do laundry and such. They are dear sweet people. Hope all heals soon. > I'm rambling on here, sorry, but glad to know all is well with you and > yours. Getting reading for "Sonya Had Her Kittens Party! > > Charleen Thanks for noticing my absence :-) Cheers, helen s > I'm here :-) > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Cheers, helen s Add 3 to 5 oz. of protein to your diet every 2-3 days for two weeks. Then go back to your previous routine. You should be knocked off the plateau. -L. >> I'm here :-) >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > -L. There is also now the theory out there (proven in studies, for what it is worth) that adding calcium really helps weight loss. > There is also now the theory out there (proven in studies, for what it is > worth) that adding calcium really helps weight loss. Yeah, I read that the equiv. of three glasses of milk will help you burn 100 calories a day. But then again, if you end up drinking more than 100 calories worth of milk in the process ... I also read that calcium in supplements doesn't absorb as well. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca
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