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Marina - 02 Mar 2005 19:36 GMT
Well, the blue kittens weren't registered. Two of them have been homed,
but there are three left. I would really like to take in two of them,
but... I'm afraid it would be totally selfish to adopt them. Nikki
usually hates other cats (though lately she has been mothering several
of her toys, most notably the piggy). And I'm afraid that Frank, who I
think is starting to feel a bit old and feeble, might be intimidated by
a young strapping boy kitten.

The biggest problem would be travelling to the island in summer. It's
hard enough to take two cats on a four-hour bus drive + half an hour on
a boat, taking four along would be near impossible. I guess I know it
would be madness to take on these two kittens, but at the same time I
can't forget about the little girl who fell asleep on my arm. My flat's
too small, too. It's only two rooms, and no place to keep the cats
separate (Frank can open most doors), except if I shut the kittens into
the bathroom, but I don't like the idea of that.

Argh, I know I can't adopt them. But I just wanna! Nikki would probably
scratch their eyes out. Frank would probably be deeply offended. Argh!

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Karen - 02 Mar 2005 19:59 GMT
Well, the only quibble I have is that Nikki probably would not scratch their
eyes out. Sounds much more likely she would mother them eventually. You
*could* get a big kitten playpen for them ala:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~verhaege/kittens/playpen.htm  (scroll down). I know
they have "lidded" ones. It's a thought.....

> Well, the blue kittens weren't registered. Two of them have been homed,
> but there are three left. I would really like to take in two of them,
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Argh, I know I can't adopt them. But I just wanna! Nikki would probably
> scratch their eyes out. Frank would probably be deeply offended. Argh!
Monique Y. Mudama - 02 Mar 2005 21:44 GMT
> Well, the only quibble I have is that Nikki probably would not scratch their
> eyes out. Sounds much more likely she would mother them eventually. You
> *could* get a big kitten playpen for them ala:
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~verhaege/kittens/playpen.htm  (scroll down). I know
> they have "lidded" ones. It's a thought.....

Too cute picture from that link:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~verhaege/kittens/3-7-2004%20008.jpg

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Kreisleriana - 02 Mar 2005 21:45 GMT
>> Well, the only quibble I have is that Nikki probably would not scratch their
>> eyes out. Sounds much more likely she would mother them eventually. You
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>http://www.xs4all.nl/~verhaege/kittens/3-7-2004%20008.jpg

OMG!!!!   <thud!!!>

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CatNipped - 02 Mar 2005 22:01 GMT
>>> Well, the only quibble I have is that Nikki probably would not scratch
>>> their
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>
> OMG!!!!   <thud!!!>

Move over Theresa!!  EEEEEKKKKKK!!!  <THUNK!!!>

Hugs,

CatNipped

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Kreisleriana - 02 Mar 2005 22:03 GMT
>>>> Well, the only quibble I have is that Nikki probably would not scratch
>>>> their
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>
>Move over Theresa!!  EEEEEKKKKKK!!!  <THUNK!!!>

<coming to>  Ooooh, fuzzy fuzzy fuzzy <THUD-UD-UD!!!!>

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Takayuki - 03 Mar 2005 01:12 GMT
>> Well, the only quibble I have is that Nikki probably would not scratch their
>> eyes out. Sounds much more likely she would mother them eventually. You
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>http://www.xs4all.nl/~verhaege/kittens/3-7-2004%20008.jpg

They look like they're riding a shopping cart. :)
Marina - 03 Mar 2005 05:16 GMT
> Too cute picture from that link:
>
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~verhaege/kittens/3-7-2004%20008.jpg

Awww! Just what I need. More kitten fever.

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Irulan - 02 Mar 2005 22:38 GMT
oh my god, that picture is just too cute!!!

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> Well, the only quibble I have is that Nikki probably would not scratch
> their
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>> Argh, I know I can't adopt them. But I just wanna! Nikki would probably
>> scratch their eyes out. Frank would probably be deeply offended. Argh!
Victor Martinez - 02 Mar 2005 20:26 GMT
> but there are three left. I would really like to take in two of them,
> but... I'm afraid it would be totally selfish to adopt them. Nikki

Can you "loan" them for a few weeks to see how Frank and Nikki react to
them?

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mlbriggs - 02 Mar 2005 22:18 GMT
> Well, the blue kittens weren't registered. Two of them have been homed,
> but there are three left. I would really like to take in two of them,
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Argh, I know I can't adopt them. But I just wanna! Nikki would probably
> scratch their eyes out. Frank would probably be deeply offended. Argh!

Do you have a good friend who would adopt -- then you could visit them and
be theirgood auntie?   Purrs that it will work out for the best.  MLB
Irulan - 02 Mar 2005 22:36 GMT
::sigh:: such a hard decision. But, your reasons for not adopting them seem
to be very logical. Your place is too small, you already have 2 established
older cats, one or both of whom might get his/her nose out of joint, plus
the travelling problems.

I realize it's a great temptation, but you should really think it over, it
is a BIG decision. Hope the decision doesn't become too difficult.
Jazz & his mama

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> Well, the blue kittens weren't registered. Two of them have been homed,
> but there are three left. I would really like to take in two of them,
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Argh, I know I can't adopt them. But I just wanna! Nikki would probably
> scratch their eyes out. Frank would probably be deeply offended. Argh!
Monique Y. Mudama - 03 Mar 2005 01:10 GMT
>::sigh:: such a hard decision. But, your reasons for not adopting them seem
>to be very logical. Your place is too small, you already have 2 established
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> is a BIG decision. Hope the decision doesn't become too difficult.  Jazz &
> his mama

Yeah, you don't want to be in the position where I was with Eros =/

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Marina - 03 Mar 2005 05:22 GMT
> ::sigh:: such a hard decision. But, your reasons for not adopting them seem
> to be very logical. Your place is too small, you already have 2 established
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> is a BIG decision. Hope the decision doesn't become too difficult.
> Jazz & his mama

I know, Lydia. It's a 'heart against mind' situation. I thought of
another reason why I shouldn't adopt them. Frank and Nikki get special
food, and I don't think I could keep the kittens out of it. F&N's food
bowls are on the floor, and always have been, so I'm not going to change
that at this stage in their lives. I *know* I shouldn't adopt kittens.
But I just wanna. And they need a home.

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Cheryl - 03 Mar 2005 00:45 GMT
> Argh, I know I can't adopt them. But I just wanna! Nikki would
> probably scratch their eyes out. Frank would probably be deeply
> offended. Argh!

Aww Marina! Yes, it sounds like it would be difficult, but I sure
understand!! They are such cuties!

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L. (usenetlyn) - 03 Mar 2005 00:50 GMT
> Well, the blue kittens weren't registered. Two of them have been homed,
> but there are three left. I would really like to take in two of them,

> but... I'm afraid it would be totally selfish to adopt them.

<snip>

I *hate it* when I get put into situations like that.  I think if it
weren't for DH (he's allergic) I would have  8 or 9 cats....I hope
someone you knows adopts them so you can at least visit. :)

-L.
Takayuki - 03 Mar 2005 01:07 GMT
>The biggest problem would be travelling to the island in summer. It's
>hard enough to take two cats on a four-hour bus drive + half an hour on
>a boat, taking four along would be near impossible. I guess I know it
>would be madness to take on these two kittens, but at the same time I
>can't forget about the little girl who fell asleep on my arm.

She sounds so cute!  It must be hard to see litters and litters of
fuzzy kittens without wanting some. :)  What happened with the
registration of the kittens?
Marina - 03 Mar 2005 05:27 GMT
> She sounds so cute!  It must be hard to see litters and litters of
> fuzzy kittens without wanting some. :)  What happened with the
> registration of the kittens?

It turned out that there was something unclear about the papers of the
dad (I don't know the details), so the kittens aren't 'pure'. Grr. And
the homes they were going to specificaly wanted show cats and breeding
cats, so now they don't want them because they can't be registered.
Except one of the original takers did take one kitten, and another was
adopted out through an online adopting service. My sister's family are
asking around now for takers, and if they don't get any, I guess they'll
end up with five cats instead of two. The good news is, they just bought
a bigger house. ;o)

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Susan M - 03 Mar 2005 05:21 GMT
Marina:

I feel your pain and I understand :(
Hugs to you and F&N and the kittens.

Susan M
Otis and Chester
Wondering how it will all turn out

> Well, the blue kittens weren't registered. Two of them have been homed,
> but there are three left. I would really like to take in two of them,
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Argh, I know I can't adopt them. But I just wanna! Nikki would probably
> scratch their eyes out. Frank would probably be deeply offended. Argh!
O J - 03 Mar 2005 06:09 GMT
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>Argh, I know I can't adopt them. But I just wanna! Nikki would probably
>scratch their eyes out. Frank would probably be deeply offended. Argh!

Awwww!!  KF can do strange things to the human mind.  You're in the
right headspace though, your first loyalties have to lie with Frank
and Nikki.  The pictures of the kittens were great -- no wonder you
long for some babies to snuggle.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
jmcquown - 03 Mar 2005 07:19 GMT
> Argh, I know I can't adopt them. But I just wanna! Nikki would
> probably scratch their eyes out. Frank would probably be deeply
> offended. Argh!

Awww, you have KF but you know what's best for Nikki, Frank and everything
else.  Maybe if she keeps them you can be an auntie and visit a lot!

Jill
wafflycat - 03 Mar 2005 19:44 GMT
> Argh, I know I can't adopt them. But I just wanna! Nikki would probably
> scratch their eyes out. Frank would probably be deeply offended. Argh!

Frank can come live with me. Anytime.

Waffles
polonca12000 - 04 Mar 2005 22:04 GMT
Lots of hugs and purrs for you, Marina, this is really hard!
We are thinking of you,
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> Well, the blue kittens weren't registered. Two of them have been homed,
> but there are three left. I would really like to take in two of them,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> think is starting to feel a bit old and feeble, might be intimidated by
> a young strapping boy kitten.
<snip>
Enfilade - 06 Mar 2005 03:19 GMT
Yes, I remember thinking this, and somehow we moved halfway across the
country with a pair of 5 week old nursing kittens in one car and two
grownup cats in the other, one of whom was a feral with the ability to
scream for hours on end, and into a two bedroom apartment after
telling the landlord we had two cats because up until two weeks before
the move, we DID have two cats.

While we still have all four living quite successfully together, we
/do/ have a bathroom, livingroom and kitchen as well as the two
bedrooms, and we have two sets of incomes--student incomes, but
incomes nonetheless.

I think it is wise of you to study your situation before you adopt.
Your own health/happiness and that of your current cats msut come
first.  And these kittens have a home that is caring for them--Kumani
and Tyche were sitting alone in a heap of trash at age 3 weeks, in a
city with an overburdened animal shelter.  It sounds like those
kittens have alternate sources of survival that Kumani and Tyche (And
Smokey--as a fullblown forest-dwelling feral, his local shelter
rejected him on the basis that he was a "wild animal") didn't have.

Best of luck for those bitties to find good homes.

--Fil
Krista - 06 Mar 2005 06:29 GMT
(snippety)

> Argh, I know I can't adopt them. But I just wanna! Nikki would probably
> scratch their eyes out. Frank would probably be deeply offended. Argh!

If you need help with the KF, I'll be glad to box Hubert up and ship
him to you for a few days.  After a few days you'll be extremely tired
and half your stuff will be broken, and I bet Frank and Nikki will be
willing to pay to ship him back themselves.   ;-)

------
Krista

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