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CatNipped - 01 Mar 2005 15:20 GMT This is sick!
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/03/01/mccartney.fur.reut/index.html
Please write your representatives to put a ban in place. We need a 25-nation bloc total ban in order to get this trade halted.
Hugs,
CatNipped
jmcquown - 01 Mar 2005 16:27 GMT > This is sick! > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > CatNipped I agree, it's sick. I had no idea this trade was going on. Does the U.S. allow these imports? The article was specifically referring to Europe so I think it's unlikely.
Jill
Magic Mood Jeep? - 01 Mar 2005 17:34 GMT >> This is sick! >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Jill I do doubt that they are imported into the US - unless under flase pretenses (as in labeled as other critters).
Considering the stink PETA makes over regular fur (let alone the poultry farming techinques), imagine if they got wind of someone importing Fido- or Fluffy-fur coats??!?!?!? I wouldn't want to be in the same county as PETA, let alone the same city/town (or even state, for that matter)!
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sriddles@aol.com - 01 Mar 2005 20:09 GMT Cat and dog fur trade has been going on for a long time. It's enough to make you sick just reading about it--particularly in China where cats are raised on tethers for the purpose of harvesting the fur. IIRC the US has a ban in place on dog and cat fur, but big whoopee, generally they just mis-label it as rabbit fur or something. One particularly disgusting product -- and I'm sure you've all seen it -- are the little figurines that look like little sleeping (or dead) kittens. They're actually made out of cat fur. Sherry
Kreisleriana - 01 Mar 2005 23:00 GMT >Cat and dog fur trade has been going on for a long time. It's enough to >make you sick just reading about it--particularly in China where cats [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >actually made out of cat fur. >Sherry I just don't get this. I also blow a gasket when I see someone wearing a fur coat or jacket walking a dog. Would they like their dog made into a coat? :P
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Tish Silberbauer - 02 Mar 2005 08:26 GMT Yes, I've seen them here in Australia too :^( DH and I saw them at a local nursery (plant nursery) - curled up concrete forms with real cat fur on the outside and plastic button eyes. Just before Christmas. What a sick and horrible thing; especially when you consider someone ignorant might think it a suitable present for a cat-lover. I made *loud* comment in the crowded store about the revoltiness of using real cat fur on such a think (I'm not too impressed by the frivolous use of any real animal fur on such things); enough of a noise that most of the folks in the store knew my feelings (embarrassing poor DH). We noted, next time we visited a week or two later, that all of the figurines had been removed from display and I've not seen them since. For what it's worth; we decided not to bother going back into the store, but I wanted to check if the figurines were still there so that I could call the RSPCA and raise h*ll.
Tish - who doesn't indulge in public outcries very often, but was moved to outrage on this instance.
>Cat and dog fur trade has been going on for a long time. It's enough to >make you sick just reading about it--particularly in China where cats [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >actually made out of cat fur. >Sherry charles_liu@my-deja.com - 06 Mar 2005 10:19 GMT Tish, could you be so kind as to indulge in some public outcry on behalf of the repulsive killing/skinning/eating of Hindu Gods? Yes, cows are Gods to the Hindus, perhaps your "they should't kill what we consider as pets" self-righteousness can be paid forward in not killing other's Gods.
Good luck to you in removing all the beef from meat stands.
> Yes, I've seen them here in Australia too :^( > DH and I saw them at a local nursery (plant nursery) - curled up [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >actually made out of cat fur. > >Sherry L. (usenetlyn) - 01 Mar 2005 23:02 GMT > I agree, it's sick. I had no idea this trade was going on. Does the U.S. > allow these imports? The article was specifically referring to Europe so I > think it's unlikely. > > Jill Yes they do. At one point there was talk of a federal ban on dometic animal (cat and dog) fur, but it wasn't passed, IIRC. The fur lobby is too big - they fear that is dog and cat fur is banned, rabbit, raccoon, beaver, etc. will be next. (and *what's wrong with that*? I ask...)
Burlington Coat Factory was selling dog-fur coats as recently as 5 years ago. They were labeled "Mongolian canine" but they were GDS-like domestic dog fur. People (including PeTA) made a big stink and BCF said they would quit selling them, but I found them in the stores long after they said they'd quit.
http://www.animalrights.net/archives/year/1999/000001.html
-L.
Cheryl - 02 Mar 2005 00:57 GMT > Yes they do. At one point there was talk of a federal ban on > dometic animal (cat and dog) fur, but it wasn't passed, IIRC. > The fur lobby is too big - they fear that is dog and cat fur is > banned, rabbit, raccoon, beaver, etc. will be next. (and *what's > wrong with that*? I ask...) I was leafing through a fashion magazine while waiting to get my haircut the other day, and I was shocked that the whole fur craze is back again. Or did it ever go away? I seem to remember that faux fur was *in* for a while.
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L. (usenetlyn) - 02 Mar 2005 04:43 GMT <snip>
> I was leafing through a fashion magazine while waiting to get my > haircut the other day, and I was shocked that the whole fur craze is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > -- > Cheryl About 2-3 years ago real fur was seen as *so* passe - and many of the fur farmers went out of business. But we are back into the "me first" mentality, and fur is on the rise again. It all just looks like dead animals to me. Yuck.
A couple days ago I had a dream about educating Sherry Riddles (of all people) about wearing fur. Now I know that Sherry never would, but in my dream, when I met her (for the first time) she had on a full-length chinchilla. I told her that over 150 animals died to make her coat and she was astonished. LOL...I think the dream was prompted by the Toadsuck, Arkansas thread....
-L.
sriddles@aol.com - 02 Mar 2005 14:49 GMT ROFL! If you feel up to "educating" someone, come to our Humane Society's annual Ball. All the little old blue-haired ladies show up wearing their full-length furs. No joke! Now, I realize they've owned those furs for decades, and they probably just *wait* for an occasion to wear them. So they'd be a little difficult to "educate" especially since they're in their 80's and 90's. Still, it's hard for me to resist saying, "May I take your coat, Ma'am? And bury it in the back yard where dead animals belong?" Also, I have a "Fur is Dead" sticker on my car. I really get a lot of comments on it, people asking what it means. I'm also the person who almost got kicked off of e-bay for writing harassing letters to the bulk sellers of those cat-fur figurines. Now I"m getting wound up. This topic always winds me up. You know what winds me up almost as much as dog and cat fur? Seeing lynx coats for sale. How could *anyone* wear one of those.
Sherry
CatNipped - 02 Mar 2005 15:07 GMT > ROFL! If you feel up to "educating" someone, come to our Humane > Society's annual Ball. All the little old blue-haired ladies show up [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Sherry Oh, if people will wear baby seals who were clubbed to death, they'll wear anything! What do they care that an breathing, *FEELING* animal was horribly put to death so that they could be fashionable?!
Hugs,
CatNipped
Cheryl Perkins - 02 Mar 2005 15:59 GMT > Oh, if people will wear baby seals who were clubbed to death, they'll wear > anything! What do they care that an breathing, *FEELING* animal was > horribly put to death so that they could be fashionable?! I wish they were clubbed - it was a more merciful death than the one insisted on by animal rights people.
And I'm certainly not going to criticize people for wearing dead animals as long as I have dead cows on my feed and in my freezer.
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CatNipped - 02 Mar 2005 20:38 GMT >> Oh, if people will wear baby seals who were clubbed to death, they'll >> wear [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > And I'm certainly not going to criticize people for wearing dead animals > as long as I have dead cows on my feed and in my freezer. Oh, I have no problems with killing animals in order to provide sustenance. I don't even have problems with killing animals back where there weren't synthetic materials to provide warm clothing. I simply object to people killing animals solely for fashion.
Hugs,
CatNipped
L. (usenetlyn) - 02 Mar 2005 21:04 GMT > > And I'm certainly not going to criticize people for wearing dead animals > > as long as I have dead cows on my feed and in my freezer. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > CatNipped ITA. Plus I have real problems with the husbandry practices of fur farms.
-L.
Kreisleriana - 02 Mar 2005 15:42 GMT >ROFL! If you feel up to "educating" someone, come to our Humane >Society's annual Ball. All the little old blue-haired ladies show up [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Also, I have a "Fur is Dead" sticker on my car. I really get a lot of >comments on it, people asking what it means. You're kidding, right, I hope?
As I said in another post, if it's one thing that really blows my gaskets, it's seeing someone in a fur coat walking a dog. And it always seems to be one of those little foofoo yappy dogs. I always feel like saying to them, "How many little 'Fifis' do you think it would take to make a coat like that?
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jmcquown - 02 Mar 2005 15:45 GMT > ROFL! If you feel up to "educating" someone, come to our Humane > Society's annual Ball. All the little old blue-haired ladies show up [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > since they're in their 80's and 90's. > Sherry My mom has a raccoon jacket, a mink wrap (it's whole mink pelts - heads, legs, tails and all!) and a wool coat with a mink collar. Dad bought them for her back in the 1950's. Guess who (being the only daughter) is going to inheirit them? (sigh) What the hell am *I* gonna do with them? If I try to sell them, a kind-hearted person like yourself will bash me to death on eBay!
Jill
Kreisleriana - 02 Mar 2005 15:48 GMT >> ROFL! If you feel up to "educating" someone, come to our Humane >> Society's annual Ball. All the little old blue-haired ladies show up [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Jill There are some animal shelters and rescues who will accept them to make kitten beds out of them.
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jmcquown - 02 Mar 2005 16:11 GMT >>> ROFL! If you feel up to "educating" someone, come to our Humane >>> Society's annual Ball. All the little old blue-haired ladies show up [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh > My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com There's a thought. The wool coat, I can probably have the collar replaced with more wool. It's a *really* nice coat. The mink wrap is literally 4 or 5 whole mink bodies sewn together - it's creepy looking. Wouldn't make a good bed, I'm thinking. Maybe the raccoon jacket would. It's just past hip length and "swingy" in the style that was the 1950's.
Jill
Tanada - 02 Mar 2005 19:55 GMT > My mom has a raccoon jacket, a mink wrap (it's whole mink pelts - heads, > legs, tails and all!) and a wool coat with a mink collar. Dad bought them > for her back in the 1950's. Guess who (being the only daughter) is going to > inheirit them? (sigh) What the hell am *I* gonna do with them? If I try to > sell them, a kind-hearted person like yourself will bash me to death on > eBay! Could you give them a proper burial?
I hate ranches raising fur animals for fur sake only. I really feel that if your going to raise that mink for its fur, you'd better be eating the meat as well. Funnily enough, my father worked on a Mink ranch in Wisconsin in the 30s, as a young adult. He really hated minks after that. They stink, are mean, and will eat their young. This was strange, as my father had those same characteristics.
Pam S.
Victor Martinez - 02 Mar 2005 20:25 GMT > ranch in Wisconsin in the 30s, as a young adult. He really hated minks > after that. They stink, are mean, and will eat their young. This was > strange, as my father had those same characteristics. Oh my! You father ate his young? ;-)
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Tanada - 02 Mar 2005 21:10 GMT >> ranch in Wisconsin in the 30s, as a young adult. He really hated >> minks after that. They stink, are mean, and will eat their young. >> This was strange, as my father had those same characteristics. > > Oh my! You father ate his young? ;-) You'll never know...
Pam S. not telling
L. (usenetlyn) - 02 Mar 2005 21:15 GMT <snip>
> Could you give them a proper burial? Hee hee....
just FYI, you can donate them to PeTA for demonstrations - and get a tax credit, to boot!
> I hate ranches raising fur animals for fur sake only. I really feel > that if your going to raise that mink for its fur, you'd better be [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Pam S. Most mammals will eat their young, especially of not housed properly. Yes, even cats.
-L.
Kreisleriana - 02 Mar 2005 21:40 GMT >> My mom has a raccoon jacket, a mink wrap (it's whole mink pelts - heads, >> legs, tails and all!) and a wool coat with a mink collar. Dad bought them [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >after that. They stink, are mean, and will eat their young. This was >strange, as my father had those same characteristics. And you survived? ;)
>Pam S. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Tanada - 09 Mar 2005 19:54 GMT >>>My mom has a raccoon jacket, a mink wrap (it's whole mink pelts - heads, >>>legs, tails and all!) and a wool coat with a mink collar. Dad bought them [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > And you survived? ;) Barely.
Pam S.
L. (usenetlyn) - 02 Mar 2005 17:21 GMT > ROFL! Hee-hee...I didn't know if you were around or not, but I thought at least a few people would get a giggle out of it!
> If you feel up to "educating" someone, come to our Humane > Society's annual Ball. All the little old blue-haired ladies show up > wearing their full-length furs. No joke! Oh Geez. That's like going to a Vegan convention and ordering steak...
> Now, I realize they've owned > those furs for decades, and they probably just *wait* for an occasion [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > You know what winds me up almost as much as dog and cat fur? Seeing > lynx coats for sale. How could *anyone* wear one of those. I once worked with a woman who had a real knuckle-dragger as a DH. Well, I was at a party at their house once - and he was bragging about having shot and killed a Lynx (this was in central Iowa - there are probably *very* few Lynx left there, as it is.) I asked him *why* he would ever shoot a Lynx...? His response: "Yeh git fifty bucks for dem pelts!" <mind explode> The jerk also was laughing about shooting a Cormorant...he didn't know what the birds were so he shot one. IIRC they were threatened in Iowa at the time.
-L.
HRFLTiger - 02 Mar 2005 21:42 GMT This topic always winds me up.
> You know what winds me up almost as much as dog and cat fur? Seeing > lynx coats for sale. How could *anyone* wear one of those.// Do NOT even get me started on "Exotic fur" coats. Domestic cat and Dog fur is bad enough, but having wittnessed the effects of the illegal fur trade of exotics first hand, my reactions would be that it's the one thing (I very nearly did do) I would do time for.
Helen M
KellyH - 02 Mar 2005 03:11 GMT > Yes they do. At one point there was talk of a federal ban on dometic > animal (cat and dog) fur, but it wasn't passed, IIRC. The fur lobby [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > http://www.animalrights.net/archives/year/1999/000001.html I'm sure it's happening with all the outsourcing of clothing manufacture. I hate the whole "fur is back" thing, too. :( I didn't read the article, but I read about it before from the WWF website and HSUS, and it sickened me greatly.
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