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badwilson - 25 Feb 2005 02:16 GMT
There's this snake that's been coming over the wall behind our house.
The wall is about 10 feet high and behind it is an empty field with
half built and abandoned houses where water buffalos graze.  The snake
has been basking on the top of the wall and every time it is visible,
the neighbour's dog barks up a storm and the birds make this weird
twittering noise.  The snake is about 6 feet long and kind of fat, a
dark colour.  Shudder.
A few days ago, Dennis got some gardener people to cut down all the
branches of the trees that touch the house and also to cut down the
shrubs on the other side of the wall that would allow the snake to get
up there.  Things seemed good for a while.
Right now, the neighbour's dog is barking up a storm and the birds are
twittering.  I can't see the snake anywhere, but still, I am not going
outside today!!!
--
Britta
Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's
covered in fur!
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
blove - 25 Feb 2005 03:48 GMT
Any pattern on the snake?  where are you located?  Is there any wildlife
people like the local DEC or Forest Ranger u can call to catch it and
relocate it?   Just treat it with respect and dont let ur pets outside
without supervision and it wont bother you.  DO NOT kill it.  Snakes are
more afraid of you and will hightail it out of there at the slightest
vibration from your foot steps.

> There's this snake that's been coming over the wall behind our house.
> The wall is about 10 feet high and behind it is an empty field with
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> Check out pictures of Vino at:
> http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
badwilson - 25 Feb 2005 07:45 GMT
> Any pattern on the snake?  where are you located?  Is there any
> wildlife people like the local DEC or Forest Ranger u can call to
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>> Right now, the neighbour's dog is barking up a storm and the birds
>> are twittering.  I can't see the snake anywhere, but still, I am
not
>> going outside today!!!
>> --
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>> Check out pictures of Vino at:
>> http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album

I'm in a small town in Thailand.  DEC or Forest Ranger , LOL!  Not a
chance.  I'll keep my eye out for it and try to get a pic through the
window if I can.
--
Britta
Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's
covered in fur!
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
L. (usenetlyn) - 25 Feb 2005 05:36 GMT
> There's this snake that's been coming over the wall behind our house.
> The wall is about 10 feet high and behind it is an empty field with
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Check out pictures of Vino at:
> http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album

Based on your description, it's a good snake.  Where do you live?
Cutting trees away from the wall won't help - snakes can climb a wall
with no problem.  If you kill it you will have a *flood* of mice and
rats/other rodents in your property.

If you can get a closer look, or a digital pic, let me know - I can
probably ID it for you.

-L.
(Serpentophile)
badwilson - 25 Feb 2005 07:44 GMT
>> There's this snake that's been coming over the wall behind our house.
>> The wall is about 10 feet high and behind it is an empty field with
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>> Right now, the neighbour's dog is barking up a storm and the birds
>> are twittering.  I can't see the snake anywhere, but still, I am
not
>> going outside today!!!
>> --
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> -L.
> (Serpentophile)

I'm in Thailand.  I'm not about to kill it myself and my husband is
away for a month.  I am going to stay inside with Vino and wait for
one of the neighbours to kill it, hee hee!  Being in Thailand, I'm
going to assume it's poisonous and avoid it.  There are tons of snakes
around here, it's quite creepy.
About rats, we already have that problem but fortunately they are
contained to the under the sink area.  Caught a few in a trap and they
go away for a while but then come back after a few months.
--
Britta
Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's
covered in fur!
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
L. (usenetlyn) - 25 Feb 2005 23:58 GMT
> > Based on your description, it's a good snake.  Where do you live?
> > Cutting trees away from the wall won't help - snakes can climb a
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> one of the neighbours to kill it, hee hee!  Being in Thailand, I'm
> going to assume it's poisonous and avoid it.

Um, yeah - good idea!

I have always wanted a Taiwanese Beauty snake.

>There are tons of snakes
> around here, it's quite creepy.

Hee - that's a matter of opinion!  I love seeing snakes in the wild.

> About rats, we already have that problem but fortunately they are
> contained to the under the sink area.  Caught a few in a trap and they
> go away for a while but then come back after a few months.

Seriously if you kill a snake, the rat population will skyrocket.  Big
snakes (like you described) will kill 4-6 rats a month, sometimes more.

Let's just hope this guy isn't poisonous.  If you get a picture of him,
let me know - I still may be able to ID him for you. :)

-L.
Victor Martinez - 26 Feb 2005 00:09 GMT
> About rats, we already have that problem but fortunately they are
> contained to the under the sink area.  Caught a few in a trap and they
> go away for a while but then come back after a few months.

Vino doesn't kill the rats?

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badwilson - 26 Feb 2005 02:49 GMT
> > About rats, we already have that problem but fortunately they are
> > contained to the under the sink area.  Caught a few in a trap and they
> > go away for a while but then come back after a few months.
>
> Vino doesn't kill the rats?

No way, I'd never let him near them!  Thankfully they seem to only be
able to get in from under the sink and are contained in that one
kitchen cabinet, and I'd never leave it open because that would expose
the rest of the house to them, making my problem much bigger.  Also,
I'm assuming they are dirty and carry diseases and I don't want Vino
even touching a dirty nasty rat.  Also, these rats are huge and I'm
sure Vino would be scared of them.  They are about 1/3 of the size of
him!  Eeeek!
--
Britta
Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's
covered in fur!
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
Victor Martinez - 26 Feb 2005 03:42 GMT
> even touching a dirty nasty rat.  Also, these rats are huge and I'm
> sure Vino would be scared of them.  They are about 1/3 of the size of
> him!  Eeeek!

He's such a mama's boy! *grin*

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badwilson - 26 Feb 2005 06:38 GMT
>> even touching a dirty nasty rat.  Also, these rats are huge and I'm
>> sure Vino would be scared of them.  They are about 1/3 of the size of
>> him!  Eeeek!
>
> He's such a mama's boy! *grin*

Why, yes he is! :-)
--
Britta
Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's
covered in fur!
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
Annie Wxill - 26 Feb 2005 14:51 GMT
..., these rats are huge and I'm
> sure Vino would be scared of them.  They are about 1/3 of the size of
> him!  Eeeek!
> Britta

Perhaps the rats are why the snake is lurking about.  Maybe if you put some
bait in the yard, the rats would go after it and the snake would then go
after the rats.  Or, the word might get out and you'd just have even more
rats, all well-fed and plump.
I think you're right to keep Vine away from them.
I suppose that if there is some way to block that gap under the sink that
you would have done it long ago.
Annie
badwilson - 27 Feb 2005 01:55 GMT
> ..., these rats are huge and I'm
>> sure Vino would be scared of them.  They are about 1/3 of the size of
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> that you would have done it long ago.
> Annie

Oh man, have I tried everything.  First thing I did was have the
landlord install new kitchen cabinets.  But the landlord lives in
Bangkok so he sent this ridiculous work crew of crooked handymen who
proceeded to put in a new countertop (which now looks like a 6 year
old installed it) and then only nailed a 1/8 inch thick piece of some
flimsy wood over the bottom of the inside under the sink.  Then they
left and I complained to the landlord and he assured me that he would
never use those men again, but did nothing more about the cabinets.  I
stuffed steel wool into any cracks and crevices I could find, but the
rats still got in somehow.
Then I tried to find rat traps, the spring loaded kind.  Looked all
over town but couldn't find any.  I was leary of poison because I
didn't want rats dying inside the entry hole and rotting and stinking
up the place, so against my better judgement, I put down a glue trap.
Caught 2 by the next morning but was emotionally traumatized when I
saw them twitching on the trap.  Decided to never do that again.  Put
down some poison as a preventative and had no rats for a few months.
Recently the rats came back.  Luckily Dennis was here and I passed the
problem on to him.  He managed to find the spring loaded traps but the
rats kept eating the bait without setting the trap off!  Finally one
got caught but only by the leg and Dennis had to kill it by dropping a
brick on it.  It was flat as a pancake and I'm a little traumatized by
that as well :-(
Now Dennis has left and I'm disinclined to do anything about it
because I know it's going to be horrible.  I'm thinking of just
putting down poison again.  Vino can't get into the kitchen cabinets,
so I'm not worried about him.  I'm thinking the rat wouldn't die
instantly after eating it anyway, it would probably eat it and leave
and die somewhere outside.  I just need something where I don't have
to see or deal with the dead rats!
The one other thing I'm a bit worried about is that if the rats can
get in, then couldn't the snake get in too?  I've gotten into the
habit of kicking the kitchen cabinet before opening it to chase
anything that might be in there away.  Luckily, I haven't heard
anything for a few days.  Have I mentioned that I hate this house?  I
feel like I'm camping in my own home!
--
Britta
Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's
covered in fur!
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
CatNipped - 27 Feb 2005 01:57 GMT
<snip horror story about *RATS* = EEEEEKKK!>

> anything for a few days.  Have I mentioned that I hate this house?  I
> feel like I'm camping in my own home!

I think if it were me I'd nail the cabinet shut!!!

Hugs,

CatNipped

> Britta
> Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's
> covered in fur!
> Check out pictures of Vino at:
> http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
Mary - 26 Feb 2005 03:32 GMT
>> About rats, we already have that problem but fortunately they are
>> contained to the under the sink area.  Caught a few in a trap and they
>> go away for a while but then come back after a few months.
>
> Vino doesn't kill the rats?

Vino is no fool! :)
jmcquown - 26 Feb 2005 11:34 GMT
>> About rats, we already have that problem but fortunately they are
>> contained to the under the sink area.  Caught a few in a trap and
>> they go away for a while but then come back after a few months.
>
> Vino doesn't kill the rats?

Honey, I remember the rats in Bangkok.  They are probably bigger than Vino!

Jill
badwilson - 26 Feb 2005 12:17 GMT
>>> About rats, we already have that problem but fortunately they are
>>> contained to the under the sink area.  Caught a few in a trap and
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>
> Jill

Well, Vino is 12 lbs, so I doubt it ;-)  Mind you, we're out in the
country, not in Bangkok.
I suspect they might be some kind of fruit rat because I always find
pieces of squeezed lime that they pulled out of the garbage and
nibbled on.
--
Britta
Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's
covered in fur!
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
Mary - 26 Feb 2005 17:32 GMT
>>>>About rats, we already have that problem but fortunately they are
>>>>contained to the under the sink area.  Caught a few in a trap and
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> nibbled on.
> --

Well I hope they haven't been into the tequila. Do you find little
tiny salt shakers too?
Bob M - 25 Feb 2005 16:44 GMT
> There's this snake that's been coming over the wall behind our house.
> The wall is about 10 feet high and behind it is an empty field with
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Check out pictures of Vino at:
> http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album

 Okay. I'm running the other way now!

 Bob
Enfilade - 27 Feb 2005 02:51 GMT
> > Right now, the neighbour's dog is barking up a storm and the birds are
> > twittering.  I can't see the snake anywhere, but still, I am not going
> > outside today!!!
> > --

Snakes are awesome.  I have a friend who's a herpetologist, so if you
can get a pic of it, and need help with ID, I can see what I can do.

Probably just as well to assume it's venomous...better safe than
sorry.

--Fil
Gabey8 - 26 Feb 2005 21:29 GMT
I hope that whatever the snake is interested in goes away, so the snake
will, also.

I know they're good and they control the number of pests like rats, mice,
etc. But here's to seeing the pests go away and take the snake with them.

It's stories like this that make me remember a post you send a few years
ago, when Vino had a "girlfriend". There was an outdoor kitty who was
hanging around your door, which drove Vino crazy with jealousy. Hearing
about a 6-foot snake in the area makes me wonder how that little cat is
faring, along with any other outdoor kitties that might live nearby.

I'm glad Vino's an indoor cat. If I lived anywhere that snakes that large
could be found, I'd be afraid to ever have a pet outdoors without direct
human supervision. (Heck, I DON'T live around snakes that size and I keep
the cats indoors.)

Donna and the cats who won't meet ANY sort of reptile, if I can help it:
Captain and Stanley
badwilson - 27 Feb 2005 02:01 GMT
> I hope that whatever the snake is interested in goes away, so the
> snake will, also.
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> Donna and the cats who won't meet ANY sort of reptile, if I can help
> it: Captain and Stanley

Ah, Spot!  Yeah, she's still around.  I see this teenage boy a few
houses down petting her in the driveway, so I think she belongs with
those people.  Thais don't usually keep indoor pets so there are a ton
of cats and dogs roaming around this neighbourhood.  I'm sure they all
think I'm nuts for keeping Vino inside but I'd never let him out here.
Spot still comes to the house and annoys Vino.  She goes through
phases of interest and disinterest.  One time she climbed up the side
of the house and clung onto our screen window, yowling obscenities!  I
usually leave them be but if she gets Vino too upset, I chase her
away.
--
Britta
Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's
covered in fur!
Check out pictures of Vino at:
http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
 
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