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Monique Y. Mudama - 22 Feb 2005 07:39 GMT
I am addicted to the animal "cops" shows on animal planet.  They follow the
stories of animals rescued from horrible situations.  Some make it; some
don't.  The punishment the owner receives never seems to be enough(*).

I can't figure out why I watch it.  Maybe because it warms my heart to see
these rescue workers going out, day after day, and doing the best they can to
help those who cannot help themselves.  I find myself thinking, maybe I could
do that.  And then I realize that I would never have the self-control to do
that job.  And I have the training to injure someone very badly if they upset
me enough.

A guy is convicted of animal cruelty for letting a pregnant mare starve to the
point where she has to be euthanized ... and he gets two days in jail and a
thousand bucks fine.  As DH so aptly put it, "Makes you wish they would
euthanize some of the owners instead."

(*) I feel that in the US, at least, a large problem with the criminal justice
system is that we can't decide if we want to punish or rehabilitate our
inmates.  I tend to lean toward rehab, myself, but I think that by waffling
between the two, we're being more ineffective than we would be with either
approach.

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Gabey8 - 22 Feb 2005 12:13 GMT
[[I am addicted to the animal "cops" shows on animal planet.  They follow
the
stories of animals rescued from horrible situations.  Some make it; some
don't.  The punishment the owner receives never seems to be enough(*).

I can't figure out why I watch it.  Maybe because it warms my heart to
see
these rescue workers going out, day after day, and doing the best they can
to
help those who cannot help themselves.  I find myself thinking, maybe I
could
do that.  And then I realize that I would never have the self-control to
do
that job.  And I have the training to injure someone very badly if they
upset
me enough.]]

Tell me about it. I watch the show more often than I probably should,
given how angry I get when I see some of the cases being presented.

There's one recent episode where I did have to change the channel the
first time I saw it aired. It was soon after Harmony went to the RB, after
several weeks where the vet and I just could not keep her from losing
weight, and where daily feedings by syringe were not helping. So when some
[insert expletive here] neglected his dogs to the point where the officers
found them shockingly emaciated, AND they discovered the body of one dog
that'd starved to death, I was even more furious than usual. "I busted my
tail and ran up huge vet bills to try and reverse it when my sick cat lost
weight like that, and THIS [expletive omitted] had perfectly HEALTHY pets
and LET them get into that condition." I had to change the channel. (I've
since watched the episode, but that first time it came on, I couldn't bear
to see those dogs and know that someone's neglect made them look like
that.)

I couldn't be one of those animal officers. Even though under normal
circumstances I'm not a violent person, I fear I'd be in jail for assault
the first time I knew I was in the presence of an animal abuser. That's
also one of the reasons I realized I'd have trouble being a
veterinarian... I probably shouldn't have access to things like scalpels
if I'm ever in the presence of someone I KNOW harmed their pet
deliberately. Resisting the temptation to visit similar treatment on the
abuser would be a tough challenge, at best.

[[A guy is convicted of animal cruelty for letting a pregnant mare starve
to the
point where she has to be euthanized ... and he gets two days in jail and
a
thousand bucks fine.  As DH so aptly put it, "Makes you wish they would
euthanize some of the owners instead."]]

It's a shame that it's not permissible to inflict, on the abusive or
severely neglectful owner, the same sufferings that they allowed their
animal(s) to go through. We have laws against cruel and unusual punishment
in this country.

On the other hand... it IS pretty nice to see the animals re-homed with
caring people, toward the end of each episode. It's always a pleasure to
see that the animals are recovered from the injury or neglect, and now
have humans who are prepared to spoil them rotten, as they should be.

Donna and the spoiled-rotten twosome, Captain and Stanley
Monique Y. Mudama - 23 Feb 2005 00:23 GMT
> On the other hand... it IS pretty nice to see the animals re-homed with
> caring people, toward the end of each episode. It's always a pleasure to see
> that the animals are recovered from the injury or neglect, and now have
> humans who are prepared to spoil them rotten, as they should be.

Yeah, I think this is why I like to watch.

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Katz - 22 Feb 2005 13:49 GMT
I could never watch that show. I can't stand animal cruelty. And yes,
the punishment often doesn't seem to be enough.

I live in SC Pennsylvania, land of puppy mills. Don't get me started.
Grrr...
L. (usenetlyn) - 22 Feb 2005 15:42 GMT
> I am addicted to the animal "cops" shows on animal planet.

Oh me too.  I think I watch it because of the "train wreck" factor.  I
have worked in shelters, and even some of the stuff on that show
surprises me.  Sometimes I think they make the wrong decision to euth
for behavioral problems.  I especially hate the cat episodes. :(

-L.
Monique Y. Mudama - 23 Feb 2005 00:28 GMT
>> I am addicted to the animal "cops" shows on animal planet.
>
> Oh me too.  I think I watch it because of the "train wreck" factor.  I have
> worked in shelters, and even some of the stuff on that show surprises me.
> Sometimes I think they make the wrong decision to euth for behavioral
> problems.  I especially hate the cat episodes. :(

    Why do you say you hate the cat episodes?  I've seen some good come to
    some cats on the show.  There was one who was trapped inside a wall; he
    was rescued, recovered, and returned to his very grateful owners.

    I do wonder about the behavioral issues.  There was one episode that was
    quite interesting to me.  A pit bull and another dog attacked a stranger
    viciously.  In the end, the other dog was euthanized for aggression, but
    they allowed the pit bull to live as long as the owner took certain
    precautions, like always having her muzzled when she's in public.  I guess
    I was surprised and happy that the judge looked beyond the breed in that
    judgement.  I just hope he made the right choice.  I can't imagine the
    terror of being attacked by two dogs.

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L. (usenetlyn) - 23 Feb 2005 06:27 GMT
> >> I am addicted to the animal "cops" shows on animal planet.
> >
> > Oh me too.  I think I watch it because of the "train wreck" factor.
I have
> > worked in shelters, and even some of the stuff on that show surprises me.
> > Sometimes I think they make the wrong decision to euth for behavioral
> > problems.  I especially hate the cat episodes. :(
>
>     Why do you say you hate the cat episodes?

The ones I have seen have been mainly hoarders and there was one where
a guy tortured a cat to death.  It still haunts me.  There are a few
episodes that haunt me.

> I've seen some good come to
>     some cats on the show.  There was one who was trapped >inside a
wall; he
>     was rescued, recovered, and returned to his very >grateful owners.
>
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>     judgement.  I just hope he made the right choice.  I can't imagine the
>     terror of being attacked by two dogs.

I saw that epi as well - I think they determined that the other dog was
the aggressor.  I just hate it when they euth a dog for food
possessiveness because so many underfed dogs are *extremely*
poossessive of food.

-L
Monique Y. Mudama - 23 Feb 2005 23:52 GMT
> I saw that epi as well - I think they determined that the other dog was the
> aggressor.  I just hate it when they euth a dog for food possessiveness
> because so many underfed dogs are *extremely* poossessive of food.

I wonder about that, too.  Puma (RB) was a sweetheart, but he'd growl if he
was chowing down and you took the bowl away from him.  But he honestly wasn't
an aggressive dog, and he'd let you take it ... he just didn't like it.

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Lesley Madigan - 22 Feb 2005 15:52 GMT
> A guy is convicted of animal cruelty for letting a pregnant mare starve to the
> point where she has to be euthanized ... and he gets two days in jail and a
> thousand bucks fine.  As DH so aptly put it, "Makes you wish they would
> euthanize some of the owners instead."

I've said it before and I will say it again people who do these things
should be released and their names,photographs and addresses should be
published along with a statement of immunity to prosecution.....Let
them live in fear I;ve no doubt the animals they abused have had
to!!!!

Its the same over here, the best result we've had recently was when
someone got a few months in jail for roasting someone else's cat alive
and that was because they could be charged with "criminal damage" as
well as animal cruelty. The commonest punishment is that a person can
be banned from having an animal(s) for anything up to life. The only
problem is I've never heard of anyone being nicked for breaking this
rule. I assume welfare shelters have a list of people but there's
nothing to stop them picking up a newspaper and replying to a "free
kittens to good homes" advert or buying from a puppy/kitten mill.

Lesley

Slave to the Fabulous Furballs (who probably currently think the SO
should be baned from keeping pets as he didn't switch the heating on
until this afternoon!)
Gabey8 - 22 Feb 2005 17:01 GMT
[[I've said it before and I will say it again people who do these things
should be released and their names,photographs and addresses should be
published along with a statement of immunity to prosecution.....Let
them live in fear I;ve no doubt the animals they abused have had
to!!!!]]

I wish that every locality had the ability to prosecute animal cruelty as
a FELONY, so that the perps would do prison time if convicted.

Failing that, it's a pity that your suggestion can't be implemented. I
would HOPE that it would deter at least some of the sickos if they were
aware that they could get back the sort of suffering that they dished
out.

I have yet to get through one of the Animal Cops shows without at least
one utterance of vocabulary choices that we don't normally use in this
forum.

It's definitely nice to see when the perpetrators get convicted and go to
jail, which sometimes happens in time for them to them to include the
information in the episode. And it's wonderful to see the recovered
animals in their new, CARING and HAPPY homes.

Still... the content of those programs is definitely NOT for the
faint-hearted. :o(

Donna
KellyH - 22 Feb 2005 20:12 GMT
>I am addicted to the animal "cops" shows on animal planet.  They follow the
> stories of animals rescued from horrible situations.  Some make it; some
> don't.  The punishment the owner receives never seems to be enough(*).

I watched it *once* and that was enough.  It was one with a home with like
100 cats in it, and a busted pit bull ring.  I cried through the whole show.
I can't watch it, I'm way too emotional.  I applaud Animal Planet for
putting it on and bringing animal cruelty to light.  Maybe a major network
should carry it in primetime to get some more attention.
I agree, the punishments are too soft, and I'm normally a rehab over jail
type person.  People who abuse animals (or other people) don't seem to
change, though.

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Monique Y. Mudama - 22 Feb 2005 21:19 GMT
> I watched it *once* and that was enough.  It was one with a home with like
> 100 cats in it, and a busted pit bull ring.  I cried through the whole show.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> punishments are too soft, and I'm normally a rehab over jail type person.
> People who abuse animals (or other people) don't seem to change, though.

On the first few shows I saw, the animals mostly turned out okay and I
thought, "Well, that's an interesting show, but they're obviously hand-picking
the stories with happy endings."  Since then, I've seen a lot more of them
and, well, I was wrong.

I've noticed the shows being used as platforms for requesting donations to
various SPCAs.  It's bound to be effective when you see a particular SPCA
rescue a bunch of pets, then have them ask you for help to keep doing what
they're doing.  I almost did so, myself, but then I remembered that I already
have monthly payments set up to a local shelter.  I wish I could fund every
good cause, but I just can't.

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Cheryl - 23 Feb 2005 02:18 GMT
>>I am addicted to the animal "cops" shows on animal planet.  They
>>follow the
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> People who abuse animals (or other people) don't seem to change,
> though.

I can't watch it either, Kelly. I used to, but there were too many
things that got me upset, mad, etc. I just can't. :(

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Melissa Houle - 22 Feb 2005 21:05 GMT
> I am addicted to the animal "cops" shows on animal planet.  They follow the
> stories of animals rescued from horrible situations.  Some make it; some
> don't.  The punishment the owner receives never seems to be enough(*).

SNIP>
> A guy is convicted of animal cruelty for letting a pregnant mare starve to the
> point where she has to be euthanized ... and he gets two days in jail and a
> thousand bucks fine.  As DH so aptly put it, "Makes you wish they would
> euthanize some of the owners instead."

Too right!

> --
> monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully
>
> pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

Sigh..... I know what you mean. I don't have cable TV, but a friend does,
and sometimes we watch things like Animal Precinct.  I'm glad to see the
animals taken away from terrible situations and finally get the care they
need.  And in the best cases, get loving new homes.  I was upset on Sunday
Night as we were watching Animal Precinct, and there was some sicko person
going around in Queens, deliberately poisoning neighborhood cats.  A
candidate for human Euthanization if any!

Melissa
Gabey8 - 22 Feb 2005 23:23 GMT
[[Sigh..... I know what you mean. I don't have cable TV, but a friend
does,
and sometimes we watch things like Animal Precinct.  I'm glad to see the
animals taken away from terrible situations and finally get the care they
need.  And in the best cases, get loving new homes.  I was upset on
Sunday
Night as we were watching Animal Precinct, and there was some sicko
person
going around in Queens, deliberately poisoning neighborhood cats.  A
candidate for human Euthanization if any!]]

I saw that one, too! They didn't find the culprit by the time the episode
was put together, so I hope that the vermin who was guilty got caught
AFTER the show was put on the air.

A fitting fate for the person who did that would be to lock him in a room
with the at-least-20 families whose pets were lost to his malice, and let
those families do as they pleased.

God bless the animal control officers for being able to keep their tempers
in check when they're confronting the people who do these things. I don't
know how they do it, but I'm glad that SOMEONE is able to. Abusers of both
animals AND humans need to be off the streets.

Donna
Monique Y. Mudama - 23 Feb 2005 00:25 GMT
> Sigh..... I know what you mean. I don't have cable TV, but a friend does,
> and sometimes we watch things like Animal Precinct.  I'm glad to see the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> going around in Queens, deliberately poisoning neighborhood cats.  A
> candidate for human Euthanization if any!

I saw that episode.  I also don't understand an owner who sees that their cat
can't move for two days and doesn't take the cat to the vet.  He seemed okay
with animal services taking the vet, but it's like he didn't see what the fuss
was about ...

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HRFLTiger - 23 Feb 2005 10:41 GMT
episode.  I also don't understand an owner who sees that their cat
can't move for two days and doesn't take the cat to the vet.  He seemed
okay
with animal services taking the vet, but it's like he didn't see what
the fuss
was about ...

Now that's what I don't get either. Why on EARTH would you not take the
cat to the vet? Or at least to the free vet at the humane society if
you can't pay.

It just beggars belief.

Helen M
Lesley Madigan - 23 Feb 2005 14:30 GMT
, but it's like he didn't see what
> the fuss
> was about ...

When it comes to animals some people don't. I know a guy whose ex
friend (and this is why he's an ex friend) didn't understand what
everyone was fussed about when he said he;d been at a party and stayed
the night. Well their little girl's hamster was running about and its
wheel squeaking kept him awake so he threw the hamster out of a 17th
floor window....He thought it was quite funny and we later heard the
next morning he even joked about it with the people who's flat and
hamster it was...

I just hope the reason this person hasn't been seen for a while is
that they threw him out of the 17th floor window...

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Monique Y. Mudama - 23 Feb 2005 23:58 GMT
> , but it's like he didn't see what
>> the fuss was about ...
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I just hope the reason this person hasn't been seen for a while is that they
> threw him out of the 17th floor window...

Unbelievable.  And I can only imagine how upset that poor little girl must
have been.  I had hamsters when I was a little kid, and again when I was in
college.  They each have very distinctive personalities, and I had one hamster
who had more personality than most people.  I remember returning to my dorm
room from a weekend trip and finding Sparky had escaped his cage.  I quickly
closed the door.  While I tried to figure out where to start in looking for
him (I had the typical dorm room, ie, a pigsty), he waddled out into the
middle of the room and sat there on his hind legs, looking up at me.  "Oh,
you're home?  I'm ready to go back to my cage now."  He had such a big
personality (and body!) that it couldn't be encompassed by one name.  He was
known variously as Sparky, Cartman, Buddha, Fat@ss, and I'm sure a few more.
And he had the softest fur I've ever touched.

My college bf even taught him to be picked up by a knuckle.  The bf would put
his knuckle into the cage.  Sparky would bite the knuckle and the bf would
lift him out of the cage.  It was the only time he ever bit.  (No, I didn't
particularly appreciate this trick, but it seemed to amuse both of them.)

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