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Jeanne Hedge - 20 Feb 2005 03:38 GMT
Do we have any teachers on this group, lurking or otherwise?

I recently received my state license to be a substitute teacher (doing
this while continuing my job search for something in-line with my
actual work experience), and am listed with 2 local school districts.
I've worked 5 days out of 10 possible over the last 2 weeks, covering
high school chemistry (16-17 year olds), 5th grade (10-11 yo), 7th and
8th grade science classes (12-14 yo), and special education (learning
disabled 6-8 year olds).

My goodness, what an eye opening experience. I know kids like to test
the substitute, we did in my day too, but my 1st day subbing I ended
up sending 5 kids to the principal's office, and one of them ended up
getting suspended from school for a day (I later found out I had what
the other teachers considered the "worst" class with the most
troublemakers in the entire grade, and sending only 5 kids to the
office was showing great restraint). I had kids who whipped through
their assignments without problem or questions, kids who tossed their
assignments in the trash, kids who were looking for any excuse to go
roaming in the hallways, kids who'd rather be on eBay, kids who'd
rather be anywhere than where they were, kids who'd didn't want to be
anywhere but where they were.

Teachers most *definitely* don't get paid enough for all the demands
placed on them! I've got Natasha purring full-time to provide support
for all of our school teachers!

Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha

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CatNipped - 20 Feb 2005 03:45 GMT
> Do we have any teachers on this group, lurking or otherwise?
>
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> placed on them! I've got Natasha purring full-time to provide support
> for all of our school teachers!

Teachers *definitely* get my purrs and whatever other support I can give.  I
think it's a crime that we pay athletes and movie starts millions of dollars
but the people who are shaping the next generation of people (who are going
to be supporting us when we get old, gawdhelpus!) hardly get paid enough to
cover living expenses!

Hugs,

CatNipped

> Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha
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Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Feb 2005 02:21 GMT
> Teachers *definitely* get my purrs and whatever other support I can give.  I
> think it's a crime that we pay athletes and movie starts millions of dollars
> but the people who are shaping the next generation of people (who are going
> to be supporting us when we get old, gawdhelpus!) hardly get paid enough to
> cover living expenses!

True, but those are choices the general population makes.  Pro sports are
businesses, and we as a whole support them strongly enough that the businesses
can afford to pay these athletes those amounts.

On the other hand, if there were nearly as many athletes as there are
teachers, I'm sure they'd be paid less.  And it occurs to me that teaching
doesn't have a good chance of causing you permanent injury, and that you can
keep doing it until you're of typical retirement age; pro athletes only get a
few years, and have medical problems to deal with.

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Marina - 20 Feb 2005 08:54 GMT
> Teachers most *definitely* don't get paid enough for all the demands
> placed on them! I've got Natasha purring full-time to provide support
> for all of our school teachers!

So true. I blush to remember all the things we did to aggravate our
teachers. Lots of purrs heading out to teachers everywhere.

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Cheryl Perkins - 20 Feb 2005 12:03 GMT
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> Teachers most *definitely* don't get paid enough for all the demands
> placed on them! I've got Natasha purring full-time to provide support
> for all of our school teachers!

They didn't make you take courses, including teaching under supervision,
before they gave you the license?

Yes, teaching is a far, far more difficult job that is generally assumes,
and often actually teaching is the smallest part of it. You have to
maintain discipline, mediate fights, keep track of students, do paperwork,
learn and enforce an unending stream of rules intended to keep the
institution running smoothly and avoid any situation that might end in a
lawsuit, attend meetings and workshops, etc etc. Then there are
personality issues - for any given teaching style or teacher personality,
some students will love it and some will hate it. Some students thrive in
a very open, unstructured classroom; other like predictable, carefully
sequenced lessons. Some like working on their own in a large class,
others like a lot of individual attention, like you get in a small
class. So whatever even a good teacher does won't suit everyone. And yes,
substitutes get the worst of it because students *will* try to take
advantage of a newcomer.

There are, amazingly enough in spite of all this, a great many excellent
and hardworking teachers who don't get nearly enough purrs and
appreciation.

I used to teach, but it wasn't for me, not at all. It was far too
stressful.

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Jeanne Hedge - 20 Feb 2005 14:48 GMT
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>They didn't make you take courses, including teaching under supervision,
>before they gave you the license?

Real teachers do, of course, but not substitute teachers, although a
sub is expected to follow whatever lesson plan the teacher has left
for the day (and the days of it being automatic study hall if you have
a sub are long over around here)

Where I live, the state requires all sorts of different background
checks, including criminal (checks done by the state police). My
"sponsoring" school district also had to have reference checks and
proof of at least some college. They also had me to go to a 3 hour
orientation session and gave me a handbook. Once all that was done,
they sent my packet off to the state to have a substitute teacher's
license issued in my behalf. While waiting for that to come in they
strongly "suggested" I go observe in a classroom (something I had to
arrange for myself - good thing my SIL is a teacher).

The license is good for 3 years. Once I had it I was able to sign up
to sub with the neighboring school district, and all I had to provide
them with was contact info and a copy of my college degree (they pay
more if you have one).

Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha

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Cheryl Perkins - 20 Feb 2005 22:25 GMT
> Real teachers do, of course, but not substitute teachers, although a
> sub is expected to follow whatever lesson plan the teacher has left
> for the day (and the days of it being automatic study hall if you have
> a sub are long over around here)

That's different than here; our substitutes are usually required to have
all the same qualifications as a regular teacher - at least 4-5 years of
university (depending on who and what you are planning to teach) including
a period actually in the classroom, which has lengthened considerably
since the time I did the program. There are, or were, provisions for
getting people without these qualifications certificates, but as I recall,
it very rarely happened. I knew and know a nubmer of substitute teachers.

Of course, they'd generally be expected to follow the absent teacher's
lesson plan. The only exception is if the substitute wasn't qualified to
deal with something that might be hazardous, like a lab, and then they'd
be expected to do something in a classroom in instead. Note that the
absent teacher was always supposed to prepare and leave lesson plans - a
sudden illness or accident wasn't supposed to happen!

> Where I live, the state requires all sorts of different background
> checks, including criminal (checks done by the state police). My
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> strongly "suggested" I go observe in a classroom (something I had to
> arrange for myself - good thing my SIL is a teacher).

I don't know if they now require our equivalent a 'certificate of
conduct' from the police. They may well do so now; it's far more common
than it used to be back in my day (feeling rather old!) even for volunteer
activities. It used to be that most employers went by references rather
than asking applicants to supply a certificate of conduct. That seemed to
be reserved for the kind of position that involved handling money,
required common skills, and might attract not-so-reformed thieves, like
driving a taxi or delivery truck. Now it's much more common, especially
when hiring someone to work with children, the elderly or the disabled.

> The license is good for 3 years. Once I had it I was able to sign up
> to sub with the neighboring school district, and all I had to provide
> them with was contact info and a copy of my college degree (they pay
> more if you have one).

Our educational system is run province-wide; if you are certified as able
to teach by the province, you can get a position anywhere, although you
apply to each borad/district individually. They are so large now that the
possibility of working for more than one at the same time isn't really
realistic any more.

Good luck with your new job!

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Tanada - 21 Feb 2005 01:19 GMT
> Where I live, the state requires all sorts of different background
> checks, including criminal (checks done by the state police). My
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> strongly "suggested" I go observe in a classroom (something I had to
> arrange for myself - good thing my SIL is a teacher).

LOL, we subs have the best and worst of all possible worlds.

Here I had to show that A) I had over 46 credit hours of college (I do),
B) SAT scored over 1100 (I do) or C) take an ability test and score over
85% on it (I scored 97%)  I took the test option as it was faster and
easier than digging up college transcripts or SAT scores.

Then I had two background checks done, one here in North Carolina, and
one in Idaho, which was my state of residence at the time.  I also
passed a medical exam complete with drug testing, had a TB tine test
done, all my references were checked, and I was approved by the
substitute supervisor and the school board.  I had to take a week long
course on effective teaching methods, and be passed by the professor
teaching that course as capable of handling students.  I guess I did ok,
as I've been doing this since the fall of 98.

When I first started out, I was surprised by how many teachers left
either no work or make work for their classes to do.  It has changed
since then and I sometimes get to actually teach the subject.  There are
some subjects that I can't teach, but I can supervise the students and
usually that is what is really needed.  The schools I work at know me
well, and the students know that I won't tolerate some behavior, so I
usually have pretty well behaved kids.  That doesn't mean that all my
days are easy ones, or that there aren't kids who won't try to get away
with whatever they can, but most of my days are good ones.

Pam S.
Kreisleriana - 20 Feb 2005 14:55 GMT
>Do we have any teachers on this group, lurking or otherwise?
>
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>placed on them! I've got Natasha purring full-time to provide support
>for all of our school teachers!

My mom is a teacher and she's run raggged.  She can use all the purrs
she can get.  Thanks for bringing it up.

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jmcquown - 20 Feb 2005 16:13 GMT
> Do we have any teachers on this group, lurking or otherwise?
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I concur and purrs you've got!  Teaching is often a thankless job.  And the
pay is often so low teachers find part-time jobs during summer break.

I tried very hard not to torment my teachers, even if some of them wanted to
torment me ;)  Back in my day a "sub" often meant "study hall" as someone
else pointed out.

But I also have fond memories of some of my instructors from high school.
One in particular.  For its time, this was a very progressive and also brand
new school.  I took broadcast journalism classes for 4 years; we had a radio
station.  (In my 2nd year of classes I'd scarf down my lunch, run up three
flights to the station, rip copy off the AP wire, mark it up and do the
11:30 news; this was a public station, not just broadcast in the school.)
The instructor, Mr. James Futrell, was in a wheelchair, having been crippled
by polio as a child in the 1950's.  But he didn't take s*** off any student,
let me tell you!  I can remember him throwing a reel-to-reel tape across the
room when one group of students wouldn't shut up during his lecture!

Now I get to stroke my ego a little bit (indulge me!).  I went back to visit
the school when I was about 31.  Went up to the station after checking in at
the office and making sure Mr. Futrell was still there.  I walked in and he
was giving a lecture about something.  I stood there by the hallway,
listening, when he suddenly looked over at me and exclaimed, "OMG, Jill!"
Then he introduced me to the class as one of the very best students he'd
ever had. <EBG>  I looked around the class and thought to myself, gosh, was
I ever that *young*?  heheh

Another ego boost (I guess I'm allowed 2 in one post heheh).  When I was
leaving a teacher called to me in the parking lot, "Leaving a tad early,
aren't we?"  I walked back and recognized Rodney.  He'd been a year behind
me at that very school!  I grinned and said, "I'd say I was leaving a tad
*late* since I graduated in 1978, but it looks like you never did, Rodney!"
He laughed, "Jill!  What's it been, 13 years?"  Yep.  He got his teaching
degree and went right back to the old school :)  That's kinda cool!

At any rate, there are some good, dedicated students.  Unfortunately, you
always hear about the bad ones.  There are also some good, dedicated
teachers who make a lasting impression.  And to those, mega purrs.

Jill
Ginger-lyn Summer - 20 Feb 2005 20:41 GMT
>Do we have any teachers on this group, lurking or otherwise?
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Oh, my, Jeanne, what a day you had!

I thought about going into teaching about 15 years ago or so.  My
first class in grad school was essentiallly to go out and observe and
do some teaching in a local high school.  My main teaching session was
on "Midsummer Night's Dream" for a Shakespeare class.  Trying to get
them to stay in the classroom, stay in their seats, stop talking so I
could be heard over them, etc., was a nightmare.  Some kids looked
like they were napping or just dreaming, others didn't know when to
stop talking.

That wasn't why I decided not to pursue that path, but I'll agree with
you, purrs for the teachers -- they sure need them!

Ginger-lyn
Julie Cook - 21 Feb 2005 04:14 GMT
> Do we have any teachers on this group, lurking or otherwise?
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Purrs for you to Jeanne (as well as Pam Shirk).  I tried subbing when I
was younger and needed to work (this was in the late 70's) and all I had
to do was prove that I had 2 years of college.  My first assignment was
a 7th grade girls PE class.  The teacher had assigned a couple of days
of volleyball outside.  Well, it rained both days.  I just didn't make
it as a substitute teacher.  Both of my sisters-in-law are teachers and
I send them purrs regularly.

Julie
polonca12000 - 21 Feb 2005 10:50 GMT
Lots of purrs for you, Jeanne, teaching is a *very* hard job.
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> Do we have any teachers on this group, lurking or otherwise?
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> up sending 5 kids to the principal's office, and one of them ended up
> getting suspended from school for a day <snip>
 
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