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OT Please Spare a Purr For My Dad and Stepmother

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Melissa Houle - 20 Feb 2005 01:27 GMT
Hi all,

This is not a life-threatening situation, as in neither one of them have a
terrible illness.  They have however been rather hit over the head by life.
Upon their return from Mexico, Dad and Glenna came home at two a.m  to find
their water heater had quit  and flooded a large area of their house while
they were gone. Bad enough that it had to break, but really awful that it
did it when they were away, at least a week before they came back.
Fortunately, they have homeowner's insurance, but while the insurance will
cover water damage, but not mold damage. Had they been home when it
happened, the damage could have been contained, but  now the line between
what is water damage and what is mold damage appears to be rather arbitrary
in the eyes of their insurance agent.  Dad says she's the kind of person you
really don't want to deal with anyway, and certainly not when your house is
temporarily unlivable. Right now, they're living at my mom's house, as she
has an extra room, heat, hot water, and a kitchen they can use.  They'll be
moving into a rental unit for the next three months. A lot of the flooring
in the kitchen, dining room, living room  and hallway is going to have to be
replaced, hence their need to move out.  It's really a shame, as this is a
beautiful little Spanish style house of 1920's vintage with lovely hardwood
floors. In the last two years they did a lot of work on it, adding a study
for my dad at one end of the living room. (Yes, I do quietly covet their
house, or at least I did before this latest disaster.)

They need purrs that the damage is mostly water damage, which the insurance
WILL pay for.   In the worst case, if the insurance company says it's all
mold damage, they WON'T pay for repairs, and they might be forced to sell
the house which would break their hearts.  They have a huge lot where my
stepmother has a nice garden she's been working on for thirty years.  It's
their single greatest financial assett bought in the early 70's when
ordinary people could still buy a nice house, and the chance they could get
anything remotely comparable at today's prices is nil.  Especially since
they're both well past retirement age.

So calling all cats, please start your purring engines.....

Melissa
Karen - 20 Feb 2005 01:39 GMT
> Hi all,
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>
> Melissa

That really sucks. Purrs that the insurance company sees the light and that
any mold damage began as water damage. Insurance is such a wierd thing
anyway. You pay and pay but it seems like you never get the benefit.
CatNipped - 20 Feb 2005 01:46 GMT
> Hi all,
>
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>
> Melissa

House healing purrs on the way!  I hope everything works out for them.

As an aside - how nice of your mom to put them up, wow, you were actually
raised by grown-ups!!!

Hugs,

CatNipped
Melissa Houle - 20 Feb 2005 07:00 GMT
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> House healing purrs on the way!  I hope everything works out for them.
>
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> CatNipped

Heh, yes, most of the time, they are.  =o) I can't imagine why my mom and
dad got married as they just weren't well suited. But they stuck to the
marriage for fifteen years before they decided it was time to cut their
losses and go their separate ways.  My step-mother is a much better match
for my dad. But they went about breaking up their marriage in as mature a
way as one could hope for,  and neither of them bad-mouthed the other to the
four of us, and Mom gave Dad plenty of access to us, even though she got
custody.  She and Glenna get on well, and Dad and Glenna come to family
occasions like Christmas and Thanksgiving. It's been nearly forty years now,
so they've worked out whatever bitterness may have lingered long ago.  Also,
my mom has a pretty big house, but spends a lot of time in Santa Cruz with
her gentleman friend Mark. So she figured Dad and Glenna might as well use
her house since they were in a rather desperate situation.

Melissa
Gabey8 - 20 Feb 2005 01:53 GMT
Purring and purr-aying are in progress.

If they're unsatisfied with what the insurance agent has to say, can they
get a second opinion? Or file an appeal somehow?

But here's hoping that won't be necessary.
Howard Berkowitz - 20 Feb 2005 03:46 GMT
In article
<9bbcd132bb7fafdb0be07490c4065292@localhost.talkaboutpets.com>,
"Gabey8" <gabey8-@-aol-dot-com (formerly dgabriel-at-netaxs-dot-com)>
wrote:

> Purring and purr-aying are in progress.
>
> If they're unsatisfied with what the insurance agent has to say, can they
> get a second opinion? Or file an appeal somehow?
>
> But here's hoping that won't be necessary.

Purrs. These things vary by state, but check the yellow pages, etc., for
"independent adjusters", who are much like mediators for such things and
can give independent opinions. It's also worth calling the state
commissioner of insurance, or whoever regulates insurance, and check on
mediation and appeal mechanisms.  This is also the sort of thing where
TV consumer reporters might find interest.
jmcquown - 20 Feb 2005 16:42 GMT
> In article
> <9bbcd132bb7fafdb0be07490c4065292@localhost.talkaboutpets.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> thing where
> TV consumer reporters might find interest.

Agreed.  Most states have an appeals process in place.  Well, I know they do
for medical decisions but not sure about homeowners insurance.

Purrs on the way for Melissa's Dad and Stepmother and for the insurance
adjuster to recognize there's no way they could have prevented a bit of mold
since they weren't in the country!

Jill
Victor Martinez - 20 Feb 2005 03:37 GMT
Lots of purrs on the way.

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Irulan - 20 Feb 2005 04:39 GMT
Purring and praying that everything comes out well in the end.
Jazz & his mama

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> Hi all,
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> Melissa
Marina - 20 Feb 2005 08:33 GMT
> So calling all cats, please start your purring engines.....

Certainly, Melissa. Frank&Nikki purrs on the way for your Dad and
stepmother. What a terrible thing to happen.

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Sandra - 20 Feb 2005 08:49 GMT
Purrs on the way. hope the assessor is in a good mood.

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Sandra

Adrian - 20 Feb 2005 14:54 GMT
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> So calling all cats, please start your purring engines.....
>
> Melissa

Purrs for your Dad and Glenna.
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Adrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera)
A house is not a home, without a cat.

Christine Burel - 20 Feb 2005 17:07 GMT
Purrs and purrayers for your Dad and Glenna from us -- what a sad situation.
It seems to me that the mold damage couldn't have occurred without the water
damage first so how can the insurance company not pay?  In any case, many
purrs for patience while this mess gets sorted out.  And purrs for your
worries about them, too.
Christine
> Hi all,
>
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>
> Melissa
Ann - 20 Feb 2005 19:26 GMT
Purrs on the way.
Ann

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> Hi all,
>
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>
> Melissa
Cheryl - 20 Feb 2005 20:16 GMT
> They need purrs that the damage is mostly water damage, which
> the insurance WILL pay for.   In the worst case, if the
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> prices is nil.  Especially since they're both well past
> retirement age.

What bad luck. Kitties are sending purrs!

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Cheryl

Ginger-lyn Summer - 20 Feb 2005 20:37 GMT
>Hi all,
>
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>
>Melissa

Oh, your folks have my sympathies.  Purrs that the insurance company
will be reasonable and cover this, and that they can get everything
take care of and be back home soon.

Ginger-lyn
Sam Nash - 20 Feb 2005 22:27 GMT
> Hi all,
>
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>
> Melissa

Purrs that the insurance rules that it's all water damage, no mold damage.
Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe who's adding her best purrs to the
effort
Dan M - 20 Feb 2005 23:37 GMT
> So calling all cats, please start your purring engines.....
>
> Melissa

Harri Roadcat is sending her best right now, and the Highland kitties
that remain in Highland will join in this evening.

Dan
Julie Cook - 21 Feb 2005 04:07 GMT
> Hi all,
>
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> they were gone. Bad enough that it had to break, but really awful that it
> did it when they were away, at least a week before they came back.

Oh, my! BTDT purrs on the way for your Dad and Stepmother. We went away
(fortunately for one day) one Easter and returned to find an empty water
heater and soaking wet carpet from one end of the house to almost the
other.  We shall send purrs and meatloaf meditations x 5 that the
insurance company realizes that even if there is mold it is only there
because of the water damage....ummm, duh.

Julie,Hobbes, Selena, Lacey, Sam and Barnabus
William Hamblen - 21 Feb 2005 14:41 GMT
>> Hi all,
>>
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>insurance company realizes that even if there is mold it is only there
>because of the water damage....ummm, duh.

When you are going to be gone a long while you can turn off the
electricity or gas to the heater so the water heater won't burn up and
then turn off the water at the valve on the water heater connection.
There's no need to heat water noone is there to use.  It is also good
to have a trusted neighbor with a key who can check on things while
you are away.

When you have a leak you need to take steps right away instead of
letting things fester while you dicker with the insurance adjuster.
Fix the leak and call the cleanup man.  Mold is easier to prevent than
it is to remove.  When you discover a loss you're supposed to do what
you can to prevent it from getting worse.

Insurance policies vary quite a bit.  Many policies do not cover water
damage from plumbing leaks.
Melissa Houle - 21 Feb 2005 19:59 GMT
William Hamblen <wrhamblen@comcast.net> wrote in message SNIP:>
> When you are going to be gone a long while you can turn off the
> electricity or gas to the heater so the water heater won't burn up and
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Insurance policies vary quite a bit.  Many policies do not cover water
> damage from plumbing leaks.

Very sage advice, and alas, a hard lesson learned, here. And sadly,
hindsight is always perfect. They've been away for extended periods of time
with no mishaps of this kind, so they may have forgotten to take all the
precautions they might have done.  They have been working at getting things
dried out, and they did call the repair people in as soon as possible.

Thanks for all the purrs and good wishes, all.

Melissa
Krista - 21 Feb 2005 04:48 GMT
> Hi all,
>
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> their water heater had quit  and flooded a large area of their house while
> they were gone.
(snippety)

We're sending out purrs!
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Krista
polonca12000 - 21 Feb 2005 10:43 GMT
Lots of purrs and best wishes,
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Polonca & Soncek

> Hi all,
>
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> what is water damage and what is mold damage appears to be rather arbitrary
> in the eyes of their insurance agent.  <snip>
Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Feb 2005 19:47 GMT
Oh, my.  This is a really serious matter; it may be impossible to sell a house
with extensive mold damage.

Many purrs on their way.  It may not be an illness, but it is certainly a
stressful situation.  I hope they didn't lose too many expensive or
irreplacable items.

> Hi all,
>
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>
> Melissa

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HRFLTiger - 21 Feb 2005 21:28 GMT
Purrs are on their way that this is resolved quickly.

Helen M
O J - 21 Feb 2005 23:34 GMT
Melissa wrote:

--------<snip of home catastrophe>--------
>So calling all cats, please start your purring engines.....

I'll get mine working on it right away.  I can't imagine the stress
they must be under -- hugs to the whole family.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
 
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