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Wakeup Call--OT

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CATherine - 19 Feb 2005 05:46 GMT
I could use encouragement. I need to change my lifestyle but don't
have enough will power. The problem is, I spent a few hours in the ER
today. My blood pressure soared (178/100) and I was dizzy. I also had
a bloody nose; but the doctor said that was from the dry air.
Fortunately, I was at the office and surrounded by nurses when my nose
bled and i felt wobbly. They took care of me and transported me to and
from the ER.

The upshot is I need to quit smoking again for good, this time. (my
oxy level was 88) And I have to eat heart-healthy. But I LIKE salt,
fat and cholesterol! (whining) Three of the nurses cornered me and I
got a discussion (with my mouth hanging open) from all three about
low-fat & low-salt food and what foods you wouldn't believe have so
much salt. Do you know cheese has salt? Do you know the prohibitions
cover just about everything I eat? (crying copious tears) Tuesday I go
to my physician for follow-up. Maybe he will give me pills for the BP.
What I would really like is pills for the cholesterol! ;-)

During the time at the office with the nurses checking my BP and
advising me, i was terrified I was about to have a stroke. I had seen
the ER episode on TV last night about a woman brought in with a stroke
and it was shown from her viewpoint. It made a powerful impact on me.
I was thinking of that show while the nurses were caring for me. I was
crying; but the nurses were very supportive. My blessings and thanks
to Beth, Shirley and MaryKay.

--
CATherine
Victor Martinez - 19 Feb 2005 06:51 GMT
> The upshot is I need to quit smoking again for good, this time. (my

Absolutely! Nothing good ever came from smoking. I quit years ago when I
went to my doctor and my blood pressure was high. :)

> oxy level was 88) And I have to eat heart-healthy. But I LIKE salt,
> fat and cholesterol! (whining) Three of the nurses cornered me and I

Eating healthy doesn't mean you can't eat any of the "bad" stuff, it
just means you have to moderate how much of those you eat. I have
noticed that americans tend to eat too much salt, so that one might be
harder to control. Why do people put salt on their food before tasting
it? That's not good!
Anyhow, just try to add more vegetables, avoid processed foods, eat
whole grains. It's not as hard as it sounds, you just have to make the
commitment to yourself that you'd rather die old in your sleep and not
young in the ER. :)

> to my physician for follow-up. Maybe he will give me pills for the BP.

Most doctors will try to control BP with diet and exercise first. Those
help, very much. Even walking a half an hour a day is good!

> What I would really like is pills for the cholesterol! ;-)

How about oatmeal? With ground flax seed. Guaranteed to drop your
cholesterol in a few weeks. We don't "diet", but we do avoid processed
foods and try to eat a lot of veggies and whole grains. I make my own
granola that is delicious and very healthy. Takes 5 minutes of prep
work, then 2 hrs in the oven. I cook with olive oil mostly, my secondary
oil is grapeseed. Both are good oils, so I don't mind eating them. You
might also want to start having one glass of red wine per day. Makes the
heart good!

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jmcquown - 19 Feb 2005 07:37 GMT
>> The upshot is I need to quit smoking again for good, this time. (my
>
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> eating them. You might also want to start having one glass of red
> wine per day. Makes the heart good!

I agree with everything you said, Victor, which is why I didn't trim a bit
of it!  I try not to add salt during cooking; I prefer to salt at the table.

I'll add to your post:  along with cutting out processed foods, avoid "fast"
foods at all costs.  When dining out, look for lower cholesterol items on
the menu.  When John and I were at a restaurant in Texas last fall, we had
to ask if we could get a green vegetable (other than salad) with the meal.
"Oh," she said, "I could bring you some steamed broccoli."  Yes!

I adore and eat a lot of fish.  It's very heart healthy.  It can also be
pricy but where I live it's all frozen anyway so I buy tilapia fillets (very
nice & mild) as they are the least expensive.  I recently got a great deal
on a nearly 1 lb. mako shark steak.  I marinated it and threw on the the
grill.  Yum!  The leftovers went in the freezer for a quick meal at another
time.

As for the oatmeal, if the OP shudders at the thought, she needs to try
steel-cut oats rather than the flat-rolled kind (and definitely *not* a
packet of "instant oatmeal").

Jill (who still hasn't quit smoking and won't until she's ready - attempts
otherwise would be futile... but then, I have low blood pressure)
Karen - 19 Feb 2005 16:49 GMT
>> The upshot is I need to quit smoking again for good, this time. (my
>
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> might also want to start having one glass of red wine per day. Makes the
> heart good!

Oh, here is a good "quick breakfast" or snack. Piece of wheat/oat or other
whole grain bread with 1 tbsp (I actually only use 2 tsp.) natural
unsweetened peanut butter and ground flax seed sprinkled on top. My mon
likes it plain, but I like to sprinkle just a little bit of splenda on top.
I've never liked the sweet peanut butter but when I can add just the amount
*I* want I like it very well. I never liked PB until I started getting the
unsweetened. kind.

On oils, I have started using both Olive oil and coconut oil. Coconut oil
(especially the high grade kind) has so many fantastic health benefits, I am
just astounded at how it has been railroaded out of use by soy companies.
Victor Martinez - 19 Feb 2005 17:13 GMT
> On oils, I have started using both Olive oil and coconut oil. Coconut oil
> (especially the high grade kind) has so many fantastic health benefits, I am

Hmmm... I always thought coconut oil was bad for you. Now that you
mentioned it, I googled it and it seems like I was wrong! I guess I
won't be rationing the coconut in my granola recipe anymore! :)

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wafflycat - 19 Feb 2005 18:57 GMT
>> On oils, I have started using both Olive oil and coconut oil. Coconut oil
>> (especially the high grade kind) has so many fantastic health benefits, I
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> mentioned it, I googled it and it seems like I was wrong! I guess I won't
> be rationing the coconut in my granola recipe anymore! :)

We need *some* fat (oil) in our daily diets. Problem is, we tend to eat too
much of any kind, be it saturated (unhealthy) or unsaturated
(polyunsaturated or monounsaturated) healthy stuff. Be careful of the
quantity of any fat eaten and make any fat the healthier stuff rather than
the saturated fats. Remember there's approx. 40 calories in a *teaspoon* of
vegetable oil so it a very calorie-dense food. Also there is a lot of fat
effectively hidden in a lot of the processed foods we can buy these days.

Cheers, helen s
Victor Martinez - 20 Feb 2005 03:39 GMT
> *teaspoon* of vegetable oil so it a very calorie-dense food. Also there
> is a lot of fat effectively hidden in a lot of the processed foods we
> can buy these days.

Which is why I don't buy hardly any processed food. I grew up eating
food cooked from scratch every day, and that's the way I do it.

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Karen - 19 Feb 2005 19:43 GMT
>> On oils, I have started using both Olive oil and coconut oil. Coconut oil
>> (especially the high grade kind) has so many fantastic health benefits, I am
>
> Hmmm... I always thought coconut oil was bad for you. Now that you
> mentioned it, I googled it and it seems like I was wrong! I guess I
> won't be rationing the coconut in my granola recipe anymore! :)

It's pretty fascinating. And in The Good Fat Cookbook, the author documents
exactly how the false "bad" reputation for tropical oils came to be. Suffice
to say here that the American public has been properly bamboozled on that
front. It really sucks.
Seanette Blaylock - 19 Feb 2005 20:45 GMT
Karen <kchuplis@alltel.net> had some very interesting things to say
about Re: Wakeup Call--OT:

>It's pretty fascinating. And in The Good Fat Cookbook, the author documents
>exactly how the false "bad" reputation for tropical oils came to be. Suffice
>to say here that the American public has been properly bamboozled on that
>front. It really sucks.

Great.You can't get good movie popcorn any more because someone pulled
a scam?

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jmcquown - 20 Feb 2005 00:48 GMT
> Karen <kchuplis@alltel.net> had some very interesting things to say
> about Re: Wakeup Call--OT:
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> Great.You can't get good movie popcorn any more because someone pulled
> a scam?

Yep, the Food Police.  They drive me nuts.

Jill
Karen - 20 Feb 2005 00:59 GMT
>> Karen <kchuplis@alltel.net> had some very interesting things to say
>> about Re: Wakeup Call--OT:
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>
> Jill

well, I'd probably say "lobbyists" are more at fault, but yeah, it's stinky.
Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Feb 2005 20:26 GMT
> How about oatmeal? With ground flax seed. Guaranteed to drop your
> cholesterol in a few weeks.

Oh?  I have oatmeal for breakfast a lot, but it's the instant stuff.  I wonder
if that has any benefits.

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Karen - 21 Feb 2005 20:40 GMT
> > How about oatmeal? With ground flax seed. Guaranteed to drop your
> > cholesterol in a few weeks.
>
> Oh?  I have oatmeal for breakfast a lot, but it's the instant stuff.  I wonder
> if that has any benefits.

It has benefits, but not as many as steel cut. Instant is the most refined
(or processed) way of having oats.
Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Feb 2005 21:08 GMT
>> > How about oatmeal? With ground flax seed. Guaranteed to drop your
>> > cholesterol in a few weeks.
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> It has benefits, but not as many as steel cut. Instant is the most refined
> (or processed) way of having oats.

Well, my cholesterol hasn't been a problem yet, so I guess a small benefit is
probably okay for now.  I've never heard of steel cut before.

I like instant because I have it down to a science -- pour contents of baggie
into bowl, add 1% milk, microwave for 1.5 minutes, et voila!  Cooking your own
probably doesn't take *much* longer, but every minute counts when I'm trying
to get out the door.  I've never been able to do without breakfast.

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Karen - 21 Feb 2005 21:24 GMT
> >> > How about oatmeal? With ground flax seed. Guaranteed to drop your
> >> > cholesterol in a few weeks.
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> probably doesn't take *much* longer, but every minute counts when I'm trying
> to get out the door.  I've never been able to do without breakfast.

Steel cut takes a good 30 min on the stove. But boy, if you toast it a
little before making it - man is it tasty. Nutty.
CATherine - 22 Feb 2005 04:40 GMT
>Steel cut takes a good 30 min on the stove. But boy, if you toast it a
>little before making it - man is it tasty. Nutty.

I have never heard of steel cut. It sounds delicious. Where do you get
it? I have been using Quaker 5 minute oats for years. But I remember,
as a child, we had Mother's Oats and they tasted different than the
Quaker's 5 min.

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CATherine
Karen - 22 Feb 2005 05:09 GMT
>> Steel cut takes a good 30 min on the stove. But boy, if you toast it a
>> little before making it - man is it tasty. Nutty.
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> --
> CATherine

Usually, I see them in the health food section or some markets have Bob's
RedMill grains. I think sometimes they are called Irish Oats too.

This is the yummiest recipe for them (just use lowfat milk and butter milk
is lowfat. I don't even use the butter (you could do butter spray I guess,
or butter buds to sprinkle on at the end for that butter flavor) but just
toast them in a nonstick pan first shaking them around to toast but not
burn. Use a brown sugar replacement or splenda. It's the cinnamon and
toasting  that really counts.):

Recipe Summary
Difficulty: Easy
Prep Time: 10 minutes
Cook Time: 35 minutes
Yield: 4 servings
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1 tablespoon butter
1 cup steel cut oats
3 cups boiling water
1/2 cup whole milk
1/2 cup plus 1 tablespoon low-fat buttermilk
1 tablespoon brown sugar
1/4 teaspoon cinnamon

In a large saucepot, melt the butter and add the oats. Stir for 2 minutes to
toast. Add the boiling water and reduce heat to a simmer. Keep at a low
simmer for 25 minutes, without stirring.

Combine the milk and half of the buttermilk with the oatmeal. Stir gently to
combine and cook for an additional 10 minutes. Spoon into a serving bowl and
top with remaining buttermilk, brown sugar, and cinnamon.
O J - 21 Feb 2005 23:29 GMT
Monique wrote:

>I like instant because I have it down to a science -- pour contents of baggie
>into bowl, add 1% milk, microwave for 1.5 minutes, et voila!  Cooking your own
>probably doesn't take *much* longer, but every minute counts when I'm trying
>to get out the door.  I've never been able to do without breakfast.

If you want it even faster, get yourself one of those under-sink hot
water heaters that we just installed.  It plugs in next to the cord
for the garbage disposal and delivers 190 degree hot water at a turn
of the special tap.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Monique Y. Mudama - 22 Feb 2005 00:32 GMT
> Monique wrote:
>
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> garbage disposal and delivers 190 degree hot water at a turn of the special
> tap.

That would work if I liked water in my oatmeal =)  I use milk for oatmeal.

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wafflycat - 22 Feb 2005 11:15 GMT
> I like instant because I have it down to a science -- pour contents of
> baggie
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> trying
> to get out the door.  I've never been able to do without breakfast.

I use the proper oats. I weigh portion of dried oats (an ounce). Add a bit
of artificial sweetener, pour on water - stick in microwave for 1 minute 20
seconds. Voila - it is done. Good with sliced fruit on top. It's my regular
breakfast and keeps me going without *any* hunger pangs at all until
lunchtime.

Cheers, helen s
Monique Y. Mudama - 23 Feb 2005 01:55 GMT
> I use the proper oats. I weigh portion of dried oats (an ounce). Add a bit
> of artificial sweetener, pour on water - stick in microwave for 1 minute 20
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>
> Cheers, helen s

Nice!  I like vanilla yogurt with granola for texture and sliced fruit,
preferably strawberries.

Apropos of nothing, I rode my bike on Sunday, the first time in months.  My
poor sitbones!  Arrrrgh!  The last few miles were ridden as gingerly as
possible, trying not to jostle the literal pain in my a$$.

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wafflycat - 23 Feb 2005 08:10 GMT
> Apropos of nothing, I rode my bike on Sunday, the first time in months.
> My
> poor sitbones!  Arrrrgh!  The last few miles were ridden as gingerly as
> possible, trying not to jostle the literal pain in my a$$.

Padded cycle shorts are your friend. And in my case, padded cycle shorts and
a Terry's Liberator saddle ;-)

Cheers, helen s
Victor Martinez - 23 Feb 2005 12:35 GMT
> and a Terry's Liberator saddle ;-)

Now, *that* sounds kinky....

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wafflycat - 23 Feb 2005 14:50 GMT
>> and a Terry's Liberator saddle ;-)
>
> Now, *that* sounds kinky....

Heh ;-)

Actually named after the Liberator aircraft IIRC.

Terry Bicycles are a very famous American company - most specifically for
women's cycling, bikes, accessories and clothing. Their saddles are *the
business* as far as I'm concerned :-) On Gino I've got a Liberator TiLite
and on Luigi I've got a RaceLite. Saddles designed for the female nether
regions are quite different proportions than a saddle designed for the male
nether regions. W've got different pelvis dimensions dont'cha know - and
Terry do saddles for the blokes too. A Terry's saddle, properly looked
after, will last and give comfort for years and years.

Cheers, helen s
CatNipped - 23 Feb 2005 15:19 GMT
>>> and a Terry's Liberator saddle ;-)
>>
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>
> Cheers, helen s

I never could understand why bicycles started featuring "banana seats".  I
grew up in the 50s and bicycles then had very wide comfortable seats.  Those
banana seats *hurt*!

Hugs,

CatNipped
Monique Y. Mudama - 23 Feb 2005 17:53 GMT
> I never could understand why bicycles started featuring "banana seats".  I
> grew up in the 50s and bicycles then had very wide comfortable seats.  Those
> banana seats *hurt*!

Well, banana seats aside (my first bike was blue, with a blue glitter banana
seat; I loved that thing!), if you're riding your bike a lot you probably
don't want a wide seat.  My mountain bike saddle is as narrow as I can stand
it so that I can slide behind it when maneuvering downhill.  Wide and cushy
also gets uncomfortable after a long ride.

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CatNipped - 23 Feb 2005 18:16 GMT
> Well, banana seats aside (my first bike was blue, with a blue glitter
> banana
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> cushy
> also gets uncomfortable after a long ride.

Mountains??  Downhill???  What's that???!  LOL  I grew up in sourthern
Louisiana and now live in southern Texas - you've never seen such flat
landscape!  In New Orleans the highest piece of ground is man-made (Monkey
Hill).  Everything else is an average of 6 feet below sea level.

My bike riding is restricted to a spin around the block when I even own a
bicycle (which I don't now), other than that my cycling is on my exer-cycle
in my sitting room.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Monique Y. Mudama - 24 Feb 2005 00:08 GMT
>> Well, banana seats aside (my first bike was blue, with a blue glitter
>> banana seat; I loved that thing!), if you're riding your bike a lot you
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> landscape!  In New Orleans the highest piece of ground is man-made (Monkey
> Hill).  Everything else is an average of 6 feet below sea level.

Well, you can "mountain bike" without mountains.  It's not quite the same, but
it's better than not riding =P

In mountain biking, the key feature is obstacles and varied terrain, not
necessarily hills.  You have to move your body around to change your center of
gravity as you deal with obstacles.  Going downhill, you have to get your body
way back or you will take a tumble.  Going uphill, you have to get your body
forward or you will at the very least lose traction to the front tire.  The
narrower the saddle is, the easier it is to accomplish all this.  It would
also help if I didn't have so much extra, erm, padding on my thighs!

> My bike riding is restricted to a spin around the block when I even own a
> bicycle (which I don't now), other than that my cycling is on my exer-cycle
> in my sitting room.

Before I bought my mountain bike in the summer of 2003, I hadn't owned or ridden
a bike in many, many years.  It quickly became one of my favorite forms of
exercise.  I seem to favor forms of exercise that involve skill, pain, and the
occasional sacrifice of skin and/or blood.  Go figure.

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wafflycat - 23 Feb 2005 18:27 GMT
> Well, banana seats aside (my first bike was blue, with a blue glitter
> banana
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> cushy
> also gets uncomfortable after a long ride.

Oh yes - soft, squishy soft, wide saddles are *not* good for any sort of
distance. A saddle that *fits* the seat bones is what is required.

Cheers, helen s
wafflycat - 23 Feb 2005 18:26 GMT
> I never could understand why bicycles started featuring "banana seats".  I
> grew up in the 50s and bicycles then had very wide comfortable seats.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> CatNipped

That must be an 'across the pond' saying. What's a banana seat???

Cheers, helen s
CatNipped - 23 Feb 2005 18:32 GMT
>> I never could understand why bicycles started featuring "banana seats".
>> I grew up in the 50s and bicycles then had very wide comfortable seats.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Cheers, helen s

A banana seat is a long, *skinny* seat that (for me anyway) allows the
cheeks of my backside to hang over and makes for a very uncomfortable ride.
I like a seat that accomodates my *entire* backside (well, OK, maybe they
don't make them that big).

Hugs,

catNipped
wafflycat - 23 Feb 2005 18:41 GMT
> A banana seat is a long, *skinny* seat that (for me anyway) allows the
> cheeks of my backside to hang over and makes for a very uncomfortable
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> catNipped

Any jpegs? Just to be clear... of a banana seat, not your, ahem...

Cheers, helen s :-)
CatNipped - 23 Feb 2005 18:54 GMT
>> A banana seat is a long, *skinny* seat that (for me anyway) allows the
>> cheeks of my backside to hang over and makes for a very uncomfortable
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Cheers, helen s :-)

Googling for the banana seat picture, I found this - interesting.

http://www.bikecult.com/works/saddle.html

Hugs,

CatNipped
wafflycat - 23 Feb 2005 18:59 GMT
> Googling for the banana seat picture, I found this - interesting.
>
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>
> CatNipped

OOOH!

Got a Liberator like mine. And a Rolls like wot Vernon has ;-) Nathan has a
Selle Italia too..

I haven't got a Brooks, but everyone I know who does, swears by them. The
leather, although hard, molds to the shape of the individual so becomes more
comfortable with the passing of time. Apparently :-)

Cheers, helen s
Monique Y. Mudama - 23 Feb 2005 23:21 GMT
> OOOH!
>
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> leather, although hard, molds to the shape of the individual so becomes more
> comfortable with the passing of time. Apparently :-)

This is the saddle on my mountain bike.  It's a little wider than I'd like,
but women's saddles don't seem to typically come much narrower:

http://www.serfas.com/racing_saddles/TRCW.html

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wafflycat - 24 Feb 2005 08:51 GMT
> This is the saddle on my mountain bike.  It's a little wider than I'd
> like,
> but women's saddles don't seem to typically come much narrower:
>
> http://www.serfas.com/racing_saddles/TRCW.html

That looks very like the Terrys Liberator TiLite I have on Gino. I like
saddle that come complete with f*rt hole ;-)

Cheers, helen s
Monique Y. Mudama - 25 Feb 2005 02:33 GMT
>> This is the saddle on my mountain bike.  It's a little wider than I'd like,
>> but women's saddles don't seem to typically come much narrower:
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>
> Cheers, helen s

LOL!

WTB calls the channel for both men's and women's models "the love
channel" ....

http://www.wtb.com/saddles.html

Love Channel.:
Found on all WTB saddles, the Love Channel has one very important task:
protect your body from un-wanted pressures. Unlike other more radical
approaches, this central depression provides soft-tissue relief without
sacrificing the design integrity of the saddle.

Of course, as there's no actual hole, it can't be considered a fart hole =/

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CatNipped - 23 Feb 2005 18:54 GMT
>> A banana seat is a long, *skinny* seat that (for me anyway) allows the
>> cheeks of my backside to hang over and makes for a very uncomfortable
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Cheers, helen s :-)

Try this link:
http://bikecult.com/works/archive/04bicycles/paislychopJsad.JPG

Hugs,

CatNipped
Monique Y. Mudama - 23 Feb 2005 16:59 GMT
> Heh ;-)
>
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>
> Cheers, helen s

Not to get too far off-topic, but while I greatly respect Terry's focus on
good women's gear, their saddles haven't worked for me.  I bought one, test
rode it for a few days, and had to bring it back.  It just didn't work.

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wafflycat - 23 Feb 2005 18:28 GMT
> Not to get too far off-topic, but while I greatly respect Terry's focus on
> good women's gear, their saddles haven't worked for me.  I bought one,
> test
> rode it for a few days, and had to bring it back.  It just didn't work.

Saddles are an intensely personal thing. Good fit for the individual is what
is important.

Cheers, helen s
Mary - 23 Feb 2005 17:26 GMT
> > and a Terry's Liberator saddle ;-)
>
> Now, *that* sounds kinky....

I must admit, I was wondering what exactly was
getting liberated there. :)
wafflycat - 23 Feb 2005 18:29 GMT
> I must admit, I was wondering what exactly was
> getting liberated there. :)

My a$$ is what is liberated :-) I can ride my bike all day in comfort and
not be sore at the end of a long day in the saddle :-)

Cheers, helen s
Monique Y. Mudama - 23 Feb 2005 16:58 GMT
>> Apropos of nothing, I rode my bike on Sunday, the first time in months.  My
>> poor sitbones!  Arrrrgh!  The last few miles were ridden as gingerly as
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Cheers, helen s

I have padded cycle shorts (pearl izumis, in fact) and a nice cutout
women's saddle whose name currently escapes me.  First ride of the
season is always a b*tch.

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Sherry - 24 Feb 2005 05:35 GMT
You
> might also want to start having one glass of red wine per day. Makes
> the heart good!

Just wanted to throw in a disclaimer here. There really haven't been
any trials done to determine whether or not red wine specifically
prevents heart disease or stroke. The American Heart Association
recommends people NOT do this if they don't already drink. But the
same antioxidants that are supposed to be heart-healthy in red wine
are also present in grape juice.

Sherry
Mary - 24 Feb 2005 06:52 GMT
"Sherry" <sriddles@aol.com.litter> wrote>
> Just wanted to throw in a disclaimer here. There really haven't been
> any trials done to determine whether or not red wine specifically
> prevents heart disease or stroke. The American Heart Association
> recommends people NOT do this if they don't already drink. But the
> same antioxidants that are supposed to be heart-healthy in red wine
> are also present in grape juice.

Ha! You're back in Usenet land! Nice to see you.
Go see the other group for some great comedy.
;)
Marina - 19 Feb 2005 07:27 GMT
> I could use encouragement.

Lots of purrs coming over for you, Catherine. It's hard at first, but
once your palate gets used to less salt and less fat, more fatty and
salty foods taste disgusting. The transition may take a month or two,
though. Try to compensate with a lot of herbs, or if you like hot foods
like me, lots of chili and pepper.

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jmcquown - 19 Feb 2005 07:52 GMT
>> I could use encouragement.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> though. Try to compensate with a lot of herbs, or if you like hot
> foods like me, lots of chili and pepper.

Marina, you're right on the money!  Herbs, definitely!  Here in the States
you can get a lot of salt-free herb blends that punch up the taste without
adding sodium.  Mrs. Dash comes to mind; I like the garlic-herb blend.

Oh, and another thing.  I can't live without baked potatoes.  Sorry, the
Atkins diet would kill me.  BUT - if Catherine can find non-fat or reduced
fat cream cheese, here's a great thing.  In a small bowl, blend together the
"cream cheese" with 2-3 cloves of minced garlic and a palmful of snipped
chives or chopped parsley.  Blend well; cover and refrigerate.  It keeps up
to 2 weeks.  Use it in place of butter and sour cream on baked potatoes,
steamed vegetables, as a spread on whole grain toasted bread.  Tastes great
and you won't miss the butter!

Jill
Howard Berkowitz - 19 Feb 2005 09:13 GMT
> >> I could use encouragement.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> without
> adding sodium.  Mrs. Dash comes to mind; I like the garlic-herb blend.

And if you actually get interested in herbs and spices, even beyond
their use in food, it can be a truly fascinating area. Last year was a
bad one and I didn't get much done, but I have my front yard largely in
raised beds of edible and ornamental plants. I have a variety of blue
balsam mint that grows fairly crazily and is a perennial, so I've
trained it onto both sides of the walk to the front door. In the peak
season, you are surrounded by waves of mint as you walk up.  I'm
considering a major project of tearing up some
ground-mostly-but-tree-attacking English ivy in the back and replacing
with mint.

You can do surprisingly well with herbs in window boxes or under plant
lights. Just remember to start new seedlings every couple of weeks so
you have a small plant maturing at any time.

It can be fascinating to find that fresh isn't necessarily better than
dried with some herbs. With common sage, for example, the fresh and
dried are, for all practical purposes, completely different seasonings.
Do we need to discuss catnip?

Don't assume drying is the only way to preserve. Take fresh herbs, home
grown or from a farmer's market, mix with just enough water to form a
pourable mixture, and chop it up in a blender (a food processor usually
is too big).  Pour it into plastic ice cube trays, freeze and pop the
cubes into freezer bags.  It will take a little experimenting to learn
how much fresh equivalent is in each cube, but for many herbs, the
quality is very, very close to fresh.
Debbie Wilson - 19 Feb 2005 12:45 GMT
(snip)

> Don't assume drying is the only way to preserve. Take fresh herbs, home
> grown or from a farmer's market, mix with just enough water to form a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> how much fresh equivalent is in each cube, but for many herbs, the
> quality is very, very close to fresh.

I can definitely second this - freezing works very well for many fresh
herbs in the way Howard describes. Don't be tempted to just 'dry'
freeze the whole herbs instead of making cubes, they will suffer
freezer burn and be inedible. The ice cubes method also works extremely
well for fresh cillies and fresh root ginger. You can also freeze them
in the correct portions for recipes, e.g. one-inch portions of root
ginger per cube, and one chili per cube.

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Howard Berkowitz - 19 Feb 2005 15:19 GMT
> (snip)
> >
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> in the correct portions for recipes, e.g. one-inch portions of root
> ginger per cube, and one chili per cube.

Deb,

That's great! I never thought of using it for chilies and ginger,
although with the number of Asian groceries in the DC suburbs, it's easy
to get them fresh.  Nevertheless, there are times when it's late at
night and I'm out.

Another way to keep ginger is to slice it, and put the slices in sherry
wine and keep it in the refrigerator.  After several batches, the wine
itself is a great condiment.

Even though it uses lots of salt, I'll have to find and post a slightly
more measured recipe for Moroccan Preserved Lemons. Take a batch of
lemons and split them into two batches, about 2/3 and 1/3.  Cut the
larger batch into roughly eighths of a lemon, put a layer into a clean
(boiled is better) jar, and sprinkle with pickling salt. Squeeze the
rest of the lemons. Pour lemon juice over the layer in the jar, so it
covers it. Repeat the layering until you are out of lemons --
invariably, you will wind up with either too much juice or too many cut
lemons. You'll find something to do with them.

Close the jar tightly and put in the sun for 10-14 days. Every day or
so, shake the jar.  Add lemon juice if needed to that the lemons are
always coverd -- that tends to be a need only at the beginning.

When they are ready, the lemon peel turns to a wonderful silky texture,
and the juice has an incredible concentrated lemon flavor.  I also buy
pure lemon oil, and the Moroccan juice has a different sort of
intensity. It's a wonderful relish, not noticeably salty, and not
bitingly sour.

I've had excellent results with the fruit oils from Boyajian:
http://www.boyajianinc.com/Top.html The 5-ounce bottle of lemon oil
lasts me about 6 months, and I use a lot. I also find I use lime,
tangerine, and grapefruit in general cooking, but not as much the
orange. Orange would probably be best in desserts.

Some of the flavored vinegars, especially plum, are very very good, but
pricey for the quantity. When plums are in season again, I may try
making my own.  Their oils are also pricey, and the only one I've found
that really is unique is the flavored peanut.  Again, I may try to make
a substitute, or use peanut butter with ordinary peanut cooking oil. A
dash of flavored sesame oil goes well with peanut oil.

Boyajian has stopped carrying caviar, but it's probably just as well
that the furkids do not develop a taste for caviar.
Debbie Wilson - 19 Feb 2005 16:19 GMT
> Deb,
>
> That's great! I never thought of using it for chilies and ginger,
> although with the number of Asian groceries in the DC suburbs, it's
> easy to get them fresh.  Nevertheless, there are times when it's late
> at night and I'm out.

Also handy if you want to avoid 'chilli fingers' every time you use it
in cooking. :-) And quick, too, to just pop a cube in the pan instead
of chopping every time.

> Another way to keep ginger is to slice it, and put the slices in sherry
> wine and keep it in the refrigerator.  After several batches, the wine
> itself is a great condiment.

Oooh - sounds delicious. How long would you say it keeps for, stored like that?

Love the oil descriptions too. I'll see if there's anywhere here that
does similar things...

Deb.

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Howard Berkowitz - 19 Feb 2005 20:42 GMT
> > Deb,
> >
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> > wine and keep it in the refrigerator.  After several batches, the wine
> > itself is a great condiment.

I always used it up before I had any trouble.  Refrigerated things in
sherry seem to keep very well -- there's a marinated Chinese dish called
"drunk chicken" that certainly kept for several weeks.

Since dry sherry is a good substitute for rice wine, and the latter is a
common Asian ingredient along with ginger, it's a natural combination.

> Oooh - sounds delicious. How long would you say it keeps for, stored like
> that?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Deb.
Yowie - 23 Feb 2005 01:10 GMT
> (snip)
> >
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> in the correct portions for recipes, e.g. one-inch portions of root
> ginger per cube, and one chili per cube.

And oc course, making flavoured cooking oil is another way of preserving
herbs. We bought some garlic in bulk, and having no idea what to do with it
all, put the whole skinne dbulbs into olive oil. We now have litres of
kick-arse garlic oil. Its exceptionally pungent and probably overpowering to
some, but Joel and I are garlic fiends! Mmmmmm.

Yowie
Karen - 19 Feb 2005 16:53 GMT
>> I could use encouragement.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> though. Try to compensate with a lot of herbs, or if you like hot foods
> like me, lots of chili and pepper.

it is interesting Marina because I have never been a BIG salt eater, but
now,  I am just *distressed* by the amount of salts in foods. It just ruins
everything. And eating out! ugh! I am down to three places in a 250,000
person town that make their own food and don't used packaged products with
tons of salt. I have literally walked out of three different "popular"
restaurants (not fast food either) barely having touched my food because it
was SOOOOOO salty. And dishes I once enjoyed that were high in fat taste
revolting. It was expensive and somewhat disheartening when the last time I
ordered Lobster Ravioli at Macaroni Grill, I couldn't do anything but pick
out the asparagus and tomato bits because it seemed so enormously  fatty it
turned my stomach. Another "favorite" out the window. But in the end it is a
good thing for me.
SuzQ - 22 Feb 2005 00:15 GMT
Re: Wakeup Call--OT

by Marina <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> Feb 19, 2005 at 09:39 AM

CATherine wrote:

> I could use encouragement.

Lots of purrs coming over for you, Catherine. It's hard at first, but
once your palate gets used to less salt and less fat, more fatty and
salty foods taste disgusting. The transition may take a month or two,
though. Try to compensate with a lot of herbs, or if you like hot foods
like me, lots of chili and pepper.

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Purrs Catherine that you have the willpower you need.

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Howard Berkowitz - 19 Feb 2005 08:31 GMT
> I could use encouragement. I need to change my lifestyle but don't
> have enough will power. The problem is, I spent a few hours in the ER
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> bled and i felt wobbly. They took care of me and transported me to and
> from the ER.

Kind of been there done that, with the difference that my doctor had me
monitoring my own blood pressure and adjusting medications while travel.  
Yes, while I even had prescriptions that let me get lab tests, and I
know what I'm doing in adjusting, it's scary, on travel, to see it go to
180/120 and continuing up, and knowing it's ER time.

That being said, there's no question that weight loss would help several
conditions. Salt doesn't seem to be a major part of my pressure problem,
but that's extremely individual and I believe you if your drug response
shows that the salt is part of the problem.  

Pending lifestyle changes, high blood pressure often can be controlled
with medication, but it can take a complex multi-drug regimen, often
needing a subspecialist, to control it. There are some detailed
step-by-step protocols from NIH consensus conferences that develop
guidelines. I'm on about a fourth-step regimen, using about six drugs,
some to control effects from other drugs. The good news about that is
the most potent blood-pressure lowering drug I take is minoxidil, which
is the oral version of scalp Rogaine -- but much more powerful for
growing hair when taken orally. I can now refer to the much smaller bald
spot as a solar energy panel for a luuuuuve machine.

Seriously, a good cardiologist should be able to get it under control
with medication, but lifestyle changes do help.

> The upshot is I need to quit smoking again for good, this time. (my
> oxy level was 88)

There's not a lot one can say in favor of the health benefits of
smoking, other than perhaps that nicotine might help in some
tranquilizer overdoses.

>And I have to eat heart-healthy. But I LIKE salt,
> fat and cholesterol! (whining)

May I suggest a rephrasing? You like the _taste_, or the _equivalent
taste_, of salt, fat and cholesterol.  I'm lucky that I don't especially
like salty food, but some dishes simply won't taste right without it.
Nevertheless, there are a lot of ways to substitute for the taste effect
of salt. I have an assortment of vinegars on my shelf, and they often
can substitute as a flavor enhancer. Many spices, and hot peppers, also
can give the equivalent zing.

Again, remember salt is as much or more a flavor enhancer rather than a
specific taste. Unfortunately, it's out of print as far as I know, but
there was the _No Excuses Cookbook_ -- it's about the only cookbook my
ex-wife insisted on taking out of the two bookshelves of cookbooks.  
It's more Cajun than anything else. One of the tricks I learned is that
apple juice concentrate can be an amazing flavor enhancer.  I just scoop
a tablespoon or so out of a can of frozen apple juice. _slight_ dashes
of sweetenings can do amazing things -- try a fraction of a teaspoon of
cane sugar in peas or tomato dishes (hint: if you slightly burn a sauce,
pour it into another pan, and put in dashes of sugar and a flavored
(e.g., wine) vinegar. You may salvage the dish).

Fat adds flavor. Sometimes, it's a compromise to go to a reduced
quantity of a healthier fat rather than cut it out completely. Olive and
walnut oils, in moderation, have heart health benefits -- the FDA even
recently approved health claims for walnuts. Canola oil (a much better
name than its original name, rapeseed) is pretty healthy. It will help
you to know the different kinds of fat (saturated, unsaturated,
transfatty, etc.) and use the more healthy forms.

When cooking, where you would use fat as a lubricant, there are
alternatives. I might, for example, use a teaspoon or two of olive oil
just to brown garlic, but then rely on a nonstick pan, and dashes of
water or juice, to do most of the cooking. Secret of Professional Chefs:
nonstick pans do not last forever. Commercial kitchens get cheap ones
and replace them every couple of years. While I have some very expensive
enameled cast iron pots for some purposes, I use cheap nonstick from a
restaurant supply house. I get mine by Internet order from a nice but
strange place called happychefsuniforms.com -- it's mostly a clothing
store (nice cheap comfortable casual things as well as restaurant wear),
but it has a limited range of pots and knives -- with the best prices
I've ever seen. A Law of Cooking says that for almost any gadget you see
at Williams-Sonoma, which is actually useful, you can get a non-shiny,
non-colored version for a third the price at a restaurant supply place.

Cholesterol is an odd thing, and your choloesterol levels (actually a
misnomer) depend as much or more on genetics than diet. Most
cardiologists now start the cholesterol (or more correctly lipid)
lowering drugs earlier in treatment, especially the group called the
statins. Sometimes you need a second drug of a different class; this
depends on the makeup of your blood lipids (fat-like compounds).  

Very briefly, the total cholesterol is misleading.  Cholesterol itself
is made in the liver, and is necessary to produce many hormones. You
absolutely do not want to lower cholesterol during pregnancy!  Anyway,
in a "lipid profile", you get a total cholesterol reading, and at least
three other numbers: high-density lipoproteins (HDL), low-density
lipoproteins (LDL), and triglycerides. Simplifying, HDL carries
cholesterol away from the blood vessels and LDL carries it to the blood
vessels. If you have a high HDL, you can be at very low cardiac risk
even with a high total. It's not perfect, but a good estimator of risk
is the ratio of HDL to total cholesterol -- the higher the better.

There can be some other blood factors that may or may not be present,
but should be comsidered. High levels of a chemical called homocysteine
predispose to heart disease, but the level is suppressed by taking
supplements of folic acid. About a milligram a day is ideal, but 1mg
tablets are prescription -- you can get away with vitamins with about
800 micrograms. It's a cheap prescription if you do get it. There's more
and more folic acid supplementation in food, because it turns out that
folic acid supplements prevent a large class of birth defects. The only
reason high doses are on prescription is that taking high doses can
sometimes mask the diagnosis of certain anemias.

You also want to get a test for something called "LP little A". In
general, either you have a genetically determined higher level, or you
don't. If you do, high doses of niacin are usually preferred. Niacin, a
vitamin, can be extremely effective for many blood lipd problems in very
high doses, but at these doses, there can be intolerable side effects.  
It's very individual. I rather like the hot flash sensation that many
people can't stand, but it causes my skin to discolor and bleed, badly
enough that I can't use it.

Good luck.  By aggressive treatment, I've reversed some significant
heart damage and have my blood pressure under control. I'm 56. My father
was dead at 42 and a cardiac cripple for several years before, because
the treatments we have now simply didn't exist. Even now, I have been
very aggressive in seeking treatment; one enormous help is that I'm in a
long-term monitoring program at the NIH Clinical Center.  Treatment
options get better every day.

Lifestyle can be hard, but it helps to be creative. I've found, for
example, that the only way I will do aerobic exercise regularly is if I
also do weight training. Weights are more of a meditation for me, with
lots of visualization. Lately, several of my doctors and I have agreed
that it's less important that I have the optimal weight workout, than
periodically do a set or two when I feel stressed, or eat or take a pill
as a reminder to lift a little.

Good luck, and let your furry family have all the fat they want for you.

>Three of the nurses cornered me and I
> got a discussion (with my mouth hanging open) from all three about
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> --
> CATherine
MaryL - 19 Feb 2005 08:44 GMT
>I could use encouragement. I need to change my lifestyle but don't
> have enough will power. The problem is, I spent a few hours in the ER
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> --
> CATherine

Catherine, you can use this diagnosis as motivation to live a healthier
lifestyle.  I know -- I speak from experience.  I was diagnosed with
diabetes in June 2004, and I have frequently used your exact words to
explain my reaction.  That is, it was a real wake-up call for me.  I also
was overweight and had high cholesterol and high triglycerides.  I had known
for years that I should lose weight, but it took that diagnosis to convince
me to really make a change.  I adopted the South Beach diet, plus I
eliminated potatoes, rice, pasta, flour, and added sugar.  That is probably
much more rigid than you need, but it is working well for me.  I found in
the past that I simply don't do well by eating "just a little" of something,
such as dessert -- I wanted the whole thing and soon lost all sense of
dieting.  This time, I get plenty to eat, but it is much healthier food.  I
am eating fresh food almost exclusively (except for the meat, of course,
where it would be a stretch to call it "fresh").  I get lots of fresh
veggies, a fairly substantial amount of fresh fruit (especially berries),
lots of eggs, lean meat, and snack on nuts and Jarlsberg Lite cheese.  I
have lost a considerable amount of weight, my BG (glucose) is now under
control, and my cholesterol and triglycerides have come.  In fact, my doctor
says I can now eliminate my diabetes medication!  I even had to cut my blood
pressure medicine in half because my BP dropped *too* low (and I'm hoping
for even more improvement as I lose more weight).  So, the point is, it can
be done; and it really does not need to feel like a sacrifice.  I am never
hungry (but eat different foods than in the past) and feel better than I had
felt in years.

So, please look at the positive side and try to find a diet that can fit
your needs.  Once you begin to think about the serious consequences if you
don't make changes, then changing your lifestyle becomes much easier.

MaryL
Yowie - 19 Feb 2005 11:29 GMT
> I could use encouragement. I need to change my lifestyle but don't
> have enough will power. The problem is, I spent a few hours in the ER
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> to my physician for follow-up. Maybe he will give me pills for the BP.
> What I would really like is pills for the cholesterol! ;-)

Metamucil (psycllum husks) is great for cholesterol. Also, there's a
margarine here, can't remember hte name of it off hand, but if its here in
Oz its *has* to be available in the USA that can drop cholestrol levels even
if thats all you change.

If you can afford it, go see a dietician or nutritionist to work out a
proper diet that has enough of the things  you love to keep you on the plan,
but otherwise has an varied and good diet that will keep you interested in
stickign with it.

use spices, herbs and lemon juice to add more "zing" to your food whilst
cutting out on the salt. And the big trick with salt is not to cook with it,
just add it when you've finished making your meal. Joel likes alot more salt
than me, the only thing I ever add salt to are eggs and french fries. I have
no idea how he can taste *anything* with the amount of salt he uses. Its
just a matter of training your tongue to taste the more sublte tastes in
food, rather than just the salt. Quitting smoking will bring back that extra
taste ability.

Yowie
jmcquown - 19 Feb 2005 12:28 GMT
>> I could use encouragement. I need to change my lifestyle but don't
>> have enough will power. The problem is, I spent a few hours in the ER
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> here in Oz its *has* to be available in the USA that can drop
> cholestrol levels even if thats all you change.

Here it's called Benecol (and there is another brand touted by Regis
Philbun, I forget the name) - my mom uses Benecol spread and it made a
measurable (by her doctor) difference.

> If you can afford it, go see a dietician or nutritionist to work out a
> proper diet that has enough of the things  you love to keep you on
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Yowie
Marina - 19 Feb 2005 13:53 GMT
> Here it's called Benecol (and there is another brand touted by Regis
> Philbun, I forget the name) - my mom uses Benecol spread and it made a
> measurable (by her doctor) difference.

That's the one. It's actually produced by a Finnish company, and the
colesterol-reducing qualities were discovered by a team of Finnish
scientists. :o) We also have other stuff in the series, like Benecol
yoghurt and milk. If you click on the Benecol logo at the bottom left of
this page:

<http://www.raisiogroup.com/asp/system/empty.asp?P=38&VID=default&SID=82015214534
7044&S=0&C=27193
>

you'll get heaps more info on the Benecol products, and there seem to be
some recipes, too.

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Lorraine - 19 Feb 2005 12:59 GMT
>The upshot is I need to quit smoking again for good, this time. (my
>oxy level was 88) And I have to eat heart-healthy. But I LIKE salt,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>to my physician for follow-up. Maybe he will give me pills for the BP.
>What I would really like is pills for the cholesterol! ;-)

Catherine,

BTDT. My BP was 170/120.  What I found helped me most is to quit smoking
and walking 30-50 minutes 5 days a week.  Doing those two things made
salt a non-issue.  As far as diet, an Atkins style low-carb lowered my
BP even further.  It also lowered my LDL and triglycerides.  I'm not
alone in getting those results either.  I'm not telling you to ignore
what your doctor tells you, but do keep it in the back of your mind
should you not be happy with the traditional low-fat diet.  It's not for
everyone.

Of course, none of it is really easy.  It would be great if we could
take a little pill and have it all go away. In reality, the pills are
best thought of as a temporary fix. The problem is one pill often leads
to another to counteract the side effects from the first, which leads to
another, and another....  Lifestyle changes pay off better and safer.
They're hard work, but things worthwhile normally are.  

There are USENET support groups there that might help you.
Alt.support.stop-smoking and also the alt.support.diet hierarchy that
covers most popular diets. Keep in mind though, while they are all very
helpful, they are not even as close to as friendly as this one.  They
can be downright nasty at times, but take what you can use, and leave
the rest.

I wish you the best.  I know how frightened you must be.  Like you, the
thought of a stroke was definitely a wakeup call.  I wasn't afraid of
dying near as much as I was afraid of surviving and dealing with the
results.  You may not think you have the will power, but try to take it
a day at a time.  Don't overwhelm yourself with thoughts of forever.

Hang in there,
Lorraine

364 weeks, 5 days, 12 hours, 52 minutes, 27 seconds
since my last cigarette. That's a few days short of 7 years, BTW.
Cigarettes not smoked     102,141
Money saved*      $15,321.15

*Ha!  I wish.  That should read money spent elsewhere.  Even at that,
it's an inflated amount figured at $3.00 a pack.  I wasn't spending that
much per pack 7 years ago.  
wafflycat - 19 Feb 2005 13:03 GMT
>I could use encouragement. I need to change my lifestyle but don't
> have enough will power. The problem is, I spent a few hours in the ER
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> --
> CATherine

CATherine - think about going to WeightWatchers and learning to eat a
healthy low-fat, low-salt diet. You can get lots of cookbooks and recipes
from them which are filled with good healthy stuff for you to make that
looks good and is tasty. I recommend them.

I haven't added salt to *anything* for years and yes, you get used to it -
so much so, I now find many foods too salty. Learn to use herbs & spices as
flavourings instead of salt. After a while you really do taste the food and
not the salt. Use skimmed milk instead of normal full-fat milk - I've used
this for years - and I now honestly prefer it to full-fat milk. Cheese is my
weakness - but it's a killer - I simply have to avoid it if I want to lose
weight, which I currently do. Standard cheeses are about 40% fat (and
saturated fat to boot) and are incredibly salty - many are cured in brine.
Reduce the amount of red meat you eat, increase the amount of white meat &
eat fish, especially oily fish. Have oily fish at least once a week - the
oils in it are high in Omega 3 which are seriously good for your heart. All
meats - cut all fat off before cooking. Don't have fried food - grill, do
not fry and do not add oil to stuff. Avoid as much processed foods as
possible - make your own homecooked foods using fresh ingredients, little
oil, avoid adding salt & use lots of herbs & spices for flavour. Also -
there's a lot of salt in many breads - so check those ingredient labels - or
make your own bread. For spreading on bread, instead of butter or
margarines, use a spread that has plant sterols which actively reduce
cholesterol levels - especially when eaten in conjunction with a healthy
diet.

Here's a recipe for a flavoursome vegetable soup I make & eat copious
quantities of as a snack - instead of reaching for the cheese or the
chocolate :-)

2 x tins chopped tomatoes (make sure no salt added to them)
1 x large carrot
half-a-head of celery
2 x medium courgettes
1 x large onion
handful of chives
garlic to taste
mixed herbs to taste (oregano, thyme, marjoram, rosemary... whatever you
like)
2 x *low-salt* organic vegetable stock cubes
Water

Chop all the veggies up - place everything in a pan - bring to boil & simmer
until veggies soft. Blitz until smooth with a blender. Now had lots of fresh
basil (basil goes brilliantly with tomatoes).

Have with a fresh-baked crusty roll (no butter - taste the bread!)

Remember - the *only* person who can change your lifestyle is you - no-one
else can. It isn't easy, but when it's your life at stake - you *have* to be
serious about it. Take it a day at a time - having something naughty is okay
if it's an *occasional* treat - but absolutely not everyday. You have to
retrain your palate and you lifestyle to a healthy living/eating way of
life. Exercise is good for helping to get cholesterol levels down too. Find
an exercise you enjoy - that way you'll stick to it. It doesn't have to be
something that requires a huges expense in equipment - regular daily walks
are as good a place to start as any. For me - my exercise of choice is
cycling - I loathe going to the gym with a passion, but I can cycle all day
long :-)

Learn diversion tactics for when you get food & nicotine cravings - can you
get nicotine patches over there? People wanting to quit smoking over here
can get nicotine patches on the National Health Service - to help reduce the
cravings.

Best of luck - helen s
Kreisleriana - 19 Feb 2005 14:43 GMT
>I could use encouragement. I need to change my lifestyle but don't
>have enough will power. The problem is, I spent a few hours in the ER
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>crying; but the nurses were very supportive. My blessings and thanks
>to Beth, Shirley and MaryKay.

Purrs for your health, and also for strength as you take on the
changes you will need to make.

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Gabey8 - 19 Feb 2005 15:15 GMT
Purrs and purr-ayers are on the way for your blood pressure to get
regulated ASAP! Ditto for the ability to quit smoking and get your
cholesterol numbers to a healthy level.

Check online for low-fat, low-salt, etc recipes. There are support groups
out there and they're sure to have plenty of recipes that are not only
healthy to eat, but APPEALING to the taste buds. Because as we all know,
it doesn't matter how healthy a food is; if it tastes like cardboard we're
not going to want to eat it regularly.

There are sure to be cookbooks available with recipes geared toward
reducing things like salt and fat in the diet.

I'm sure that once you actually get to try some of the recipes that are
out there, eating healthy won't seem like a burden at all.

Take care and hang in there.

Oh, and fuss over a cat every chance you get. Petting cats helps lower
blood pressure. :o)

Donna and the blood-pressure-lowering kitties, Captain and Stanley
CatNipped - 19 Feb 2005 16:15 GMT
<snip very scary wake-up call story>

BTDT.  Reference http://www.possibleplaces.com/changes/

Granted, I had gastric bypass surgery to help me lose weight, but the
surgery isn't magic - it did take some effort on my part - and the surgery
didn't help me quit smoking.  Email me offlist lcrews (at) houston (dot) rr
(dot (com) and I'll be happy to be part of your "support team" to help you
through this.  I have *lots* of tips that can help you quit smoking, eat
right, and make exercise less tedious.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Christine Burel - 19 Feb 2005 16:38 GMT
CATherine, very sorry to hear of your scare -- please know you'll always
have support and encouragement from our household.  Re the salty foods -- I
think of salt in the same way I do of sugar -- eating too much of either
starts cravings for them.  My mom was the world's worst regarding salt and
would salt everything before she ate; I finally managed to convince her to
try a product called "light salt" and she was able to moderate her intake;
you can also get a product called a "salt substitute," which I've used
before, too.  I use the Morton's Light Salt in our own household because I
know how salty everything is.

Also, I'd suggest going to your doctor and asking about using a nicotine
patch and there also is an antidepressant called "Wellbutrin" (bupropion)
which is supposed to be useful in helping people stop smoking -- I believe
for the stop smoking aspect it is marketed as "Zyban."

hugs and purrs, hope this helps,
Christine
> I could use encouragement. I need to change my lifestyle but don't
> have enough will power. The problem is, I spent a few hours in the ER
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> --
> CATherine
Karen - 19 Feb 2005 16:45 GMT
> I could use encouragement. I need to change my lifestyle but don't
> have enough will power. The problem is, I spent a few hours in the ER
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> --
> CATherine

Catherine, there is one very interesting fact that people still neglect. It
isn't just the amount of fat one consumes nearly as much as the TYPE of fat
one consumes that is a problem. You may find this artcile exceptionally
interesting;

http://www.prevention.com/article/0,5778,s1-3-58-135-4835-1,00.html?

"Are these foods really healthy?" which talks about the effects of high
fructose corn syrup and trans fat in our diet.

I also HIGHLY recommend a book called "The Good Fat Cookbook"by Fran
McCullough. The recipes are really just part of the book and not kinds we
would probably make ourselves, but the worth of the book is totally in the
front half. Eye opening.

You could probably do yourself a world of good by simply starting by
eliminating trans fat. It's hard because if you read labels at the store,
almost everything convienced, packaged or ready made has "partially
hydrogenated oil" in the list. That is trans fat and that is probably the
NUMBER ONE enemy of your heart and blood cells. You really can find a lot of
products that aren't processed in the "health mart" section of your grocery
store (well, we have them in some stores in Lincoln, so I am assuming larger
towns are also follwoing that) or at a local health or organic store.

Also, throw out your sugar and get splenda. I am picky and can taste
chemically things in foods (the first packaged "Grandma's Cookie" I ever ate
was my last. I didn't know WHAT was in it, but to me it tasted like someone
had dumped something awful in it. Can't do nutrasweet or aspartame, but
splenda seems to work great) but splenda does not give me a headache or
taste badly at all. Honest, if it is WHITE (bread, pasta, sugar, rice) don't
eat it. Get the brown kind. I think the first thing to try is replacing
these things. Yes, some of it is more expensive (shameful but true it's more
expensive to eat healthy) but it is a first step toward changing your blood
chemistry.

So rather than trying at first to completely eliminate things you love, try
finding the healthy alternative. Start reading labels. Fortuneately, it is
going to become much easier to see transfat content as in January of this
year it is mandatory to list it on the nutrition info.

Heck, if you only do TWO things,  don't by anything that says "hydrogenated
oil" or high fructose corn syrup in the ingredient list you will probably
make an improvement. And of course, the other thing (which is definitely
hard for me anyway) use portion control. Measure out what a portion really
is and eat it. I even use small bowls to put things in that I know are 1/2
cup. It helps me realize that a serving of veggies or fruit is truly less
than I think it is (even though I like those things, it seems monumental to
eat 5 to 9 servings until you actually see what a real serving is) and keeps
anything starchy I am having down to a reasonable amount. A "real" serving.

I bet if you read the front half of the Good Fat Cookbook, you will feel, as
I do, completely flabbergasted by what companies and the governments role in
the current American health problem. We've been lied to and given some very
wrong products over the years. But I am finding it much easier these days to
find the RIGHT things to put in my recipes and they are none the worse for
it. And of course the other thing (which as you are so remote is probably
not difficult for you) DON'T EAT OUT unless you know the restaurant is
serving meals made from scratch and without trans fat type oils. That is of
course, the pricey restaurants which are small and usually family owned or
else run  by middle eastern folk.

Hope some of this helps you out. Honestly, after I started doing reading
between Dr. Agaston's South Beach Diet book (and honestly, following his
reccomendations of just not eating processed things, my mom's cholesterol
went down 40 points.), the Good Fat Cookbook and articles like the above, I
can hardly buy anything packaged anymore. As much as my mouth wants it my
brain screams "run away".
Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Feb 2005 20:16 GMT
> make an improvement. And of course, the other thing (which is definitely
> hard for me anyway) use portion control. Measure out what a portion really
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> eat 5 to 9 servings until you actually see what a real serving is) and keeps
> anything starchy I am having down to a reasonable amount. A "real" serving.

Using a smaller plate or bowl is one of the recommendations I find on a lot of
sites.  Not only does it discourage you from large servings, but it seems to
have a visual effect as well.

The trick is not going back for seconds.  I have trouble with that.

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Karen - 21 Feb 2005 20:24 GMT
> > make an improvement. And of course, the other thing (which is definitely
> > hard for me anyway) use portion control. Measure out what a portion really
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>
> The trick is not going back for seconds.  I have trouble with that.

Yeah. This is true.
CATherine - 22 Feb 2005 04:40 GMT
>> make an improvement. And of course, the other thing (which is definitely
>> hard for me anyway) use portion control. Measure out what a portion really
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>The trick is not going back for seconds.  I have trouble with that.

That is a problem with me. I have solved it sometimes with a smaller
plate and sometimes by filling my plate just so much and then putting
the rest of the food in the fridge BEFORE I sit down to eat.

--
CATherine
Monique Y. Mudama - 22 Feb 2005 07:30 GMT
>>Using a smaller plate or bowl is one of the recommendations I find on a lot
>>of sites.  Not only does it discourage you from large servings, but it seems
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> and sometimes by filling my plate just so much and then putting the rest of
> the food in the fridge BEFORE I sit down to eat.

Oooh, good tip.  I would just have to convince DH to go along with this scheme
... he likes seconds, too!  Much better than the advice I've read of salting
the uneaten portion (in restaurants) ... way too wasteful for me to do!

I really noticed my problem with "continuous eating" when I had Thanksgiving
dinner with DH's parents last year.  Ordinarily, we have the serving dishes
out on the table, and while I'm pretty good (now) about the first plate, I
will then continue to serve myself a bit here and a bit there until it's all
gone, one way or another.  Those bits add up.  Anyway, last year we didn't
have room on the dining table for all those dishes, so we loaded up in the
kitchen.  Having to go to another room to get seconds somehow kept me in line.
I guess it's the difference between having to consciously choose to get up vs.
just reaching out and scooping some more yummy stuff onto my plate.

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Karen - 19 Feb 2005 17:02 GMT
P.S. If you are interested, I would gladly send you my South Beach Diet book
as I know you are often a little strapped for cash. It is worth reading the
first part of the book, even if  you don't go any further than that. I have
the Good Fat Cookbook on my palm pilot though, but I know you can get it
used at Amazon for fairly inexpensive prices. Let me know.
Adrian - 19 Feb 2005 18:16 GMT
> I could use encouragement. I need to change my lifestyle but don't
> have enough will power. The problem is, I spent a few hours in the ER
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> crying; but the nurses were very supportive. My blessings and thanks
> to Beth, Shirley and MaryKay.

Sending lots of purrs that you find the strength. I quit smoking
November 2001, at the time I was getting through 4 or 5 packs per day,
so if I could do it you can. The next thing I have to tackle is my diet.
Why do all the bad things taste so good?
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Ginger-lyn Summer - 19 Feb 2005 19:48 GMT
>I could use encouragement. I need to change my lifestyle but don't
>have enough will power. The problem is, I spent a few hours in the ER
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>--
>CATherine

{{{{CATherine}}}}}

I saw that episode, too, and it scared the heck out of me!

Changing your whole lifestyle isn't easy.  I'm trying, too, and it is
*very* difficult.  I think the thing to do is take one step at a time.
Pick the most important thing (like, probably, smoking), and don't
worry about the eating just yet.  Put all your energy into quitting
the smoking.  Once you're comfortable with that, then start looking
around at diet and exercise, and see what you can do with that.  Start
just cutting down, or eliminating, *one* bad thing from your diet.
And honestly, I don't think you should have to eliminate *everything*
that you love.  I have acid reflux, and yep, everything on their
"no-no" list is stuff I love.  It's not realistic to give it *all* up.
Moderation is the key, I think.

You can do it.  I can do it.  We'll just have to do it slowly!

Ginger-lyn
Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Feb 2005 20:13 GMT
> {{{{CATherine}}}}}
>
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> you're comfortable with that, then start looking around at diet and
> exercise, and see what you can do with that.  

That advice makes sense to me.  Rome wasn't built in a day, to steal a phrase
=)

> Start just cutting down, or
> eliminating, *one* bad thing from your diet.  And honestly, I don't think
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>
> Ginger-lyn

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CATherine - 20 Feb 2005 04:41 GMT
Rather than answer so many individual replies, I decided to make one
comprehensive answer here. Thank you, all my dear friends, for your
support and helpful suggestions. I have saved a good many of the
replies and printed out the long one of Howard's.

This new lifestyle is going to be hard. But, one step at a time.
Trouble is, I had just bought a lot of groceries full of fats and
salt. I can't afford to toss it. Jeff can eat a lot of it. But there
are some things he Will Not Eat! Like broccoli and peas, for instance.
So the frozen dinners he won't touch, I will eat. But I won't eat a
buttered bagel with them, as i usually do.

While Jeff is eating processed food, I will eat fresh cooked meat and
broccoli and salad, etc. I will use the Jane's Crazy Mixed-up Salt on
my food. Jeff can have the regular salt. I also have Lemon Pepper and
garlic pepper. I also found a bottle of grated orange rind! I wonder
when and why i bought that? What can I use that for?

I made a list of lifestyle changes. Once i accomplish something, I
will check it off. But I don't want to just give up everything. I will
still have my cheddar cheese; but just one small slice. Tonight i made
Spanish Rice (Rice a Roni made with tomato soup, --didn't have any
tomatoes--and ground beef). I ate my portion in a small dessert bowl
with one little slice of cheese. It was filling, but I wasn't stuffed
as usual. I finished off with a banana. For breakfast, I had my coffee
and later oatmeal with toast. I did use butter; but only a very thin
skim. So that is a good start.

In the afternoon, I got my walking stick and Jeff put the harness on
Robin and we went for a walk. When i was young, I could walk miles.
Now I huff and puff going across a room. My driveway is a quarter-mile
long. So i walked a half mile. It is not level. there are ups and
downs. I had to take a few rests; but I made it. I sure was tired
afterward.Watching Robin on the harness was fun.

In reply to some people, I already use fat-free Miracle Whip and
Canaola oil and I even have a small bottle of olive oil. Jeff can have
the shortening, unless I decide to save it for a pie crust. I buy
fat-free salad dressing. I love Ceasar salad. I have decided to eat
less beef and more fish. Baked, of course. And lots of baked chicken.
I have used butter-flavored cooking spray on baked chicken. It is
sodium-free and fat-free. I can use lemon-pepper instead of salt.

But what about a turkey? I can use the spray on it, but what herbs
besides sage to