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Mishi - 19 Feb 2005 04:25 GMT
I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next time!)
but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew recipe. A lot
of the recipes I have found have tomatoes in them, and I can't eat tomatoes!
I just want something simple that I can put in a crock pot and forget about
till time for eating. Oh, for my grandmother's cooking skills! Sigh.

Thanks in advance!
Patti - in cold, snowy, Central New York State, USA (temp right now is about
5 degrees +F.)
Jo Firey - 19 Feb 2005 04:48 GMT
>I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next time!)
> but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew recipe. A lot
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> about
> 5 degrees +F.)

I don't care for stew made in a crock pot as I think it overcooks the
vegetables, but the following is an old family stand-by

2 1/2 pounds stew meat  (approximate)
I Envelope Lipton Dried Onion Soup Mix
I can Cream of Mushroom Soup
I can of red wine.\
1 Bay Leaf

We usually cook it for about 4 hours in a 300 degree oven but a crock pot
should work as well.

Good with rice or noodles or mashed potatoes
Jo
Mary - 19 Feb 2005 04:56 GMT
A lot
> of the recipes I have found have tomatoes in them, and I can't eat tomatoes!
> I just want something simple that I can put in a crock pot and forget about
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Patti - in cold, snowy, Central New York State, USA (temp right now is about
> 5 degrees +F.)

Patti--

I am making mine tommorrow! This recipe makes enough to have for
a few meals for two plus some to freeze:

3 lbs London Broil or any good lean beef. (Don't get stew beef there is too
much fat!) Cut it into bite sized chunks.

2 cups flour salted and peppered, spread on a tray or plate.

Coat meat cubes with flour, maybe 15 at a time.

1/2 cup olive oil. Put half in a large, deep skillet or heavy soup pot.
Set burner on high.

When pan is hot, brown meat cubes, being careful not to put too many in the
pot at a time because it takes longer for them to brown. Using
a slotted spoon place browned cubes to drain on paper towels.
(The browning takes the longest, but is worth it. All that good
browned flour becomes the rich brown broth.)

When it looks like you need more oil in the pan, add the other
half of the olive oil.

When all meat is browned, return to the skillet, add four cups
of water, and bring to a boil. (At this point, if you want to put it
in a crock pot on "auto" you can.) Put a few bay leaves in.
Simmer 2.5 hours.

Add potatoes and carrots last 20 minutes if on stove top,
last hour in crock pot. (Sometimes I brown onions and
put them in, too, it just depends on your taste.)

It is a really nice stew, especially if you use fresh ground
pepper and good meat. Remember, some of the leanest
cuts are the toughest, and are meant to be braised this way!

Hope you like it.
Julie Cook - 21 Feb 2005 03:38 GMT
Jill,

Last night I had the most wonderful crab stuffed Talapia. I have two
great fishmongers at one of our Publix grocery stores nearby and the one
who was working was making it when I was at the store yesterday. I
wanted fish but couldn't decide what and she was finishing a tray and
recommended it. It was like crab seasoned for crab cakes which was
spread (about 3/4" thick) on one talapia filet and then topped with a
second filet. In case I can't get it premade in the future I was hoping
you (or anyone) might have a good crab cake recipe that would work in a
situation like this.  It can't have too much breading in it since it
doesn't get fried but rather baked.

Julie
Mary - 21 Feb 2005 16:43 GMT
> Jill,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> situation like this.  It can't have too much breading in it since it
> doesn't get fried but rather baked.

This type of stuffing is great in mushroom caps; if you find a recipe for
crab-stuffed mushrooms it will work for the tilapia. I have a killer
recipe for Maryland Crab Cakes, but it is for backfin lump type
cakes that must be gently sauteed in butter and would not hold up
well as a stuffing because there is little holding it together--the best
idea for backfin crab cakes, but not for stuffing.
Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Feb 2005 19:38 GMT
> This type of stuffing is great in mushroom caps; if you find a recipe for
> crab-stuffed mushrooms it will work for the tilapia. I have a killer recipe
> for Maryland Crab Cakes, but it is for backfin lump type cakes that must be
> gently sauteed in butter and would not hold up well as a stuffing because
> there is little holding it together--the best idea for backfin crab cakes,
> but not for stuffing.

The only thing I miss about living on the east coast is the seafood.  The plan
is to spend a week at my parents' house this summer, and I hope to eat some
jumbo shrimp right off the boat for a few of those meals.  Mmmmmmmmmmm.

The only problem with NC is that you really have to prepare the seafood at
home.  All the restaurants ruin it with all their batter, which literally
makes my stomach cramp.

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Julie Cook - 21 Feb 2005 20:15 GMT
>>This type of stuffing is great in mushroom caps; if you find a recipe for
>>crab-stuffed mushrooms it will work for the tilapia. I have a killer recipe
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> home.  All the restaurants ruin it with all their batter, which literally
> makes my stomach cramp.

I'm with you Monique. I'd much rather have my seafood grilled or
blackened. I'm hoping Mary will share her backfin lump type cake recipe.
 One of the steak houses we frequent serves crab cakes like this and I
love them. I just haven't managed to replicate the recipe at home
(though I've tried).  I'm one of the weird people of the world in that I
don't like lobster but I love everything else that comes out of the sea
(including squid and octopus).

Julie
Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Feb 2005 20:40 GMT
> I'm one of the weird people of the world in that I don't like lobster
> but I love everything else that comes out of the sea (including squid
> and octopus).

Lobster's okay by me, but I find the much cheaper shrimp to be yummier.  I
adore king crab legs, though.

All other seafood is on a case by case basis =P

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Mary - 21 Feb 2005 20:55 GMT
> > The only thing I miss about living on the east coast is the seafood.  The plan
> > is to spend a week at my parents' house this summer, and I hope to eat some
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > home.  All the restaurants ruin it with all their batter, which literally
> > makes my stomach cramp.

Monique, I missed this post. I am missing posts somehow. Please don't anyone
feel ignored if I don't answer! Yes, seafood here is usually battered and
fried.
I have relatives in Maryland, so I love seafood Maryland style. Some folks,
for example, boil lobster tails. But as far as I am concerned the only way
to do them justice is to broil in butter. (Cholesterol is so high in
lobster,
you might as well use butter!) Then you have to serve it with drawn butter
(just heated so all the salt is at the bottom)!

> I'm with you Monique. I'd much rather have my seafood grilled or
> blackened.

You know what, I am so bad I like at ALL ways!! I love fried catfish.
I can only eat oysters fried, for some reason. I love my broiled
lobster tails and sauteed crab cakes, but of course rarely have
these expensive treats. Mostly I just broil or grill thick salmon
or grouper steaks when I can find them on sale. If you like
scallops, they are great sauteed in fresh garlic and olive oil
and served with steams snow peas and white and wild rice.
I love the little chewy bay scallops, not the big soft sea
scallops. The latter are usually pressed out of some fish, and
not scallops at all.

>I'm hoping Mary will share her backfin lump type cake recipe.

Just did! I am happy to share!

>   One of the steak houses we frequent serves crab cakes like this and I
> love them. I just haven't managed to replicate the recipe at home
> (though I've tried).  I'm one of the weird people of the world in that I
> don't like lobster but I love everything else that comes out of the sea
> (including squid and octopus).

Oo, I have not tried octopus. The best squid I have ever had was in
big succulent lumps, commonly served in Charleston SC as an appetizer.
The worse squid: in a South American restaurant in Washington DC,
in rubbery red bits with tentacles still attached! Eeeyu!
Julie Cook - 21 Feb 2005 20:07 GMT
> This type of stuffing is great in mushroom caps; if you find a recipe for
> crab-stuffed mushrooms it will work for the tilapia.

I'll have to do a search and see what I can find. Thanks for the suggestion.

 I have a killer
> recipe for Maryland Crab Cakes, but it is for backfin lump type
> cakes that must be gently sauteed in butter and would not hold up
> well as a stuffing because there is little holding it together--the best
> idea for backfin crab cakes, but not for stuffing.

This sounds wonderful! I love crabcakes that are sauteed rather than
full of breading and fried. Would you be willing to share your recipe?

Julie
Mary - 21 Feb 2005 20:35 GMT
"Julie Cook" <jcook03@emory.edu> wrote :

>   I have a killer
> > recipe for Maryland Crab Cakes, but it is for backfin lump type
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> This sounds wonderful! I love crabcakes that are sauteed rather than
> full of breading and fried. Would you be willing to share your recipe?

Sure! It has been handed down for generations. My measurements
are inexact, but I will try to be as clear as I can.

2 lbs (or containers, sometimes they are in liquid measurements) lump
backfin
crabmeat. Handling carefully so that lumps remain intact, check for any bits
of shell
left behind and remove.

Place crabmeat in bowl. Add one teaspoon dry mustard, one teaspoon "Old Bay"
(made by McCormick) seasoning, two tablespoons of mayonnaise, one beaten
egg, and
a handful of finely crumbled bread crumbs. Mix  together lightly to keep
lumps of backfin as intact as possible. Mixture should be just moist enough
to be
able to form cakes. If too moist, add a few bread crumbs. The idea is to
have as
little filler as possible, so that after you fry the crabcakes you have nice
big lumps
of white backfin peeping out from under a light brown crispy surface.

Melt four tablespoons butter in a fry pan over medium heat. When the butter
is all
melted  and beginning to sizzle, form the  crab cakes and fry for about ten
minutes
a side. Remember, the crab meat itself is already cooked. You just want the
outside
brown and lightly crispy.

Drain on paper towels. Should serve four -six but in my house maybe two! We
love crab cakes.

I hope you enjoy them!
Julie Cook - 21 Feb 2005 20:51 GMT
> "Julie Cook" <jcook03@emory.edu> wrote :
>
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>
> I hope you enjoy them!

Sounds delicious! I'm going to try them this week, thank you!
Julie
Mary - 21 Feb 2005 21:00 GMT
> Sounds delicious! I'm going to try them this week, thank you!
> Julie

You are welcome any time!  I hope they turn out great!
SuzQ - 22 Feb 2005 00:00 GMT
by "Mary" <marys@catlovernospam.com> Feb 21, 2005 at 03:35 PM

"Julie Cook" <jcook03@emory.edu> wrote :

> This sounds wonderful! I love crabcakes that are sauteed rather than
> full of breading and fried. Would you be willing to share your recipe?

Sure! It has been handed down for generations. My measurements
are inexact, but I will try to be as clear as I can.

2 lbs (or containers, sometimes they are in liquid measurements) lump
backfin
crabmeat. Handling carefully so that lumps remain intact, check for any
bits
of shell
left behind and remove.

Place crabmeat in bowl. Add one teaspoon dry mustard, one teaspoon "Old
Bay"
(made by McCormick) seasoning, two tablespoons of mayonnaise, one beaten
egg, and
a handful of finely crumbled bread crumbs. Mix  together lightly to keep
lumps of backfin as intact as possible. Mixture should be just moist
enough
to be
able to form cakes. If too moist, add a few bread crumbs. The idea is to
have as
little filler as possible, so that after you fry the crabcakes you have
nice
big lumps
of white backfin peeping out from under a light brown crispy surface.

Melt four tablespoons butter in a fry pan over medium heat. When the
butter
is all
melted  and beginning to sizzle, form the  crab cakes and fry for about
ten
minutes
a side. Remember, the crab meat itself is already cooked. You just want
the
outside
brown and lightly crispy.

Drain on paper towels. Should serve four -six but in my house maybe two!
We
love crab cakes.

I hope you enjoy them!

__________________________________________________________________________

Great recipe, no corn, little dairy I could eat it.
Suz?
Jo Firey - 22 Feb 2005 00:56 GMT
> Sure! It has been handed down for generations. My measurements
> are inexact, but I will try to be as clear as I can.
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> I hope you enjoy them!

Oh my.  You may have actually got me headed for the kitchen.  I love crab
cakes. But it is hard to find them on the west coast.  I grew up close
enough to the  Chesapeake to know how they are supposed to taste.

And I have everything in the kitchen, including a refrigerated can of
Phillips crab and a new box of Old Bay.  Just been trying to get up my
nerve.

Jo
Mary - 22 Feb 2005 01:10 GMT
> > Sure! It has been handed down for generations. My measurements
> > are inexact, but I will try to be as clear as I can.
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> Phillips crab and a new box of Old Bay.  Just been trying to get up my
> nerve.

Jo, that is my recipe, passed down from my Eastern Shore Maryland
great grandmother! I hope you do try it and that it is good.
jmcquown - 22 Feb 2005 06:56 GMT
> Jill,
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> spread (about 3/4" thick) on one talapia filet and then topped with a
> second filet.

Sounds a lot like my (very own!) stuffed flounder recipe.  But any mild fish
will work and tilapia is much less expensive!  Here's what I do:

4 fish fillets, about 1-1/2 lbs. of like size
3 Tbs. minced onion
1 clove garlic, minced
1-1/2 tsp. lowfat mayonnaise
dash of Tabasco sauce
dash cayenne pepper
4 Tbs. lowfat margarine
1/2 c. dry breadcrumbs
1/4 tsp. dry mustard
1 Tbs. lemon juice
6 oz. flaked crabmeat
2 oz. diced shrimp
3 Tbs. lowfat margarine, melted
sweet paprika (mostly for colour)
1/2 c. water or milk

Preheat oven to 350F.  Saute onion and garlic in butter until translucent.
Transfer to a mixing bowl and blend with breadcrumbs, mayo and dry mustard.
Add crabmeat, shrimp, hot sauce and cayenne and lemon juice and blend well
until moist.  Spray a baking dish with vegetable cooking spray.  Place 2
fillets in the dish and spoon the stuffing onto the center of the fillet.
Split each of the other two fillets in half and wrap them around the stuffed
fillets.  Secure with toothpicks if necessary.  Brush all over with the
melted margarine and sprinkle with paprika.  Pour water or milk around the
fillets in the baking dish.  Bake for 20 minutes, brushing once more with
melted butter halfway during cooking, until the fish is flaky.  This serves
2 very generously.  You may use smaller fillets to cook for 4 or more
people.

Jill

In case I can't get it premade in the future I was
> hoping you (or anyone) might have a good crab cake recipe that would
> work in a situation like this.  It can't have too much breading in it
> since it doesn't get fried but rather baked.
>
> Julie
jmcquown - 22 Feb 2005 07:03 GMT
>> Jill,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> spread (about 3/4" thick) on one talapia filet and then topped with a
>> second filet.

NOTE:  I often use the terms butter and margarine interchangeably.  I tend
to cook with butter but I designed all of my recipes to be made with lowfat
margarine due to my mothers cholesterol problems.  So when I say "butter",
unless specifically warned to ONLY use butter (aka Scottish shortbread) you
may use either or :)

Jill

> Sounds a lot like my (very own!) stuffed flounder recipe.  But any
> mild fish will work and tilapia is much less expensive!  Here's what
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>>
>> Julie
mlbriggs - 19 Feb 2005 05:57 GMT
> I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next time!)
> but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew recipe. A lot
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Patti - in cold, snowy, Central New York State, USA (temp right now is about
> 5 degrees +F.)

I'm not a cook.  I used to take organ lessons in my teacher's home.
Sometimes she would be making chicken soup or stew and she used Rosemary.
Boy! that smelled good.   She added the vegetables later.
marys@catlover.com - 19 Feb 2005 08:01 GMT
M.L. Briggs wrote:

>I'm not a cook.  I used to take organ lessons in my teacher's home.
>Sometimes she would be making chicken soup or stew and she used Rosemary.
>Boy! that smelled good.   She added the vegetables later.

It is wonderful with pork or chicken. A simple but delicious thing
to do is to put your oven on broil, line a pan with foil (so you
won't have to scrub) and put loin chops on the foil with rosemary
tucked *under* them so that the flavor goes through and the rosemary
will not burn. Takes about 7 minutes per side. Brush or spoon a little
olive oil on top of the chops and cracked pepper.

Rosemary is easy to grow in a hot, sunny place with soil that
drains, too.
SuzQ - 20 Feb 2005 23:54 GMT
by marys@catlover.com Feb 19, 2005 at 12:01 AM

M.L. Briggs wrote:

>I'm not a cook.  I used to take organ lessons in my teacher's home.
>Sometimes she would be making chicken soup or stew and she used
Rosemary.
>Boy! that smelled good.   She added the vegetables later.

Mary:
It is wonderful with pork or chicken. A simple but delicious thing
to do is to put your oven on broil, line a pan with foil (so you
won't have to scrub) and put loin chops on the foil with rosemary
tucked *under* them so that the flavor goes through and the rosemary
will not burn. Takes about 7 minutes per side. Brush or spoon a little
olive oil on top of the chops and cracked pepper.

Rosemary is easy to grow in a hot, sunny place with soil that
drains, too.
__________________________________________________________

Adding lemon slices with the rosemary to chicken or pork is also good.
Suz
Mary - 21 Feb 2005 01:46 GMT
> by marys@catlover.com Feb 19, 2005 at 12:01 AM
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Adding lemon slices with the rosemary to chicken or pork is also good.
> Suz

I'll try that next time, thanks!
Monique Y. Mudama - 19 Feb 2005 07:57 GMT
> I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next time!)
> but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew recipe. A lot
> of the recipes I have found have tomatoes in them, and I can't eat tomatoes!
> I just want something simple that I can put in a crock pot and forget about
> till time for eating. Oh, for my grandmother's cooking skills! Sigh.

You can't eat tomatoes???

I'd starve.  I really would.

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jmcquown - 19 Feb 2005 08:35 GMT
> I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next
> time!) but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Patti - in cold, snowy, Central New York State, USA (temp right now
> is about 5 degrees +F.)

Chicken stew is easy; I'm winging this so forgive me.  You'll want to brown
the chicken first.  Chop your veggies (onion, carrots, celery, potatoes,
maybe a parsnip) and put them in the bottom of the crock pot.  Put the
browned chicken pieces on top of the vegetables.

NOTE:  You want to remove the meat from the bones - some cooks here in the
Southern US don't but asthetically I like my stew without having to pick
bones out when I'm eating.  You can use boneless chicken breasts or thighs
if you'd like; still brown them in a skillet in a little oil first; you can
do this the night before and refrigerate it.  Tear the meat into bite-size
pieces.

Anyway, place the chicken on top of the veggies.  Blend a can of cream of
chicken (or cream of celery) soup with a can of water or chicken broth and
add to the pot.  Season with rubbed sage (or "poultry seasoning" which is
mostly sage) and black pepper.  Put the lid on the crock pot and set it on
LOW.  Go to work.  Come home.  Eat.

I like to add dumplings to stew.  If you want to do that, crank the heat up
on the crock pot when you get home so it comes to a simmer.  Mix together
1-3/4 cups. flour, 2-1/2 tsp. baking powder, 3/4 tsp. salt, 1/3 c. vegetable
shortening until the mixture is crumbly.  Stir in 1 c. milk or buttermilk
with a fork until you have a gooey dough.  Drop this by teaspoonfuls onto
the bubbling stew.  Let it simmer 10 minutes uncovered, then cover the pot
again and cook another 10 minutes.

Jill
Mary - 19 Feb 2005 17:40 GMT
> > I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next
> > time!) but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> the bubbling stew.  Let it simmer 10 minutes uncovered, then cover the pot
> again and cook another 10 minutes.

Without the dumplings this sounds like Brunswick Stew, an
Eastern NC favorite.
jmcquown - 19 Feb 2005 23:02 GMT
>>> I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next
>>> time!) but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Without the dumplings this sounds like Brunswick Stew, an
> Eastern NC favorite.

Very much like it.  In fact, if you want you can use rabbit instead of
chicken :)  I also like to throw some frozen green beans in with the other
veggies and sometimes corn.

Jill
Yowie - 19 Feb 2005 11:18 GMT
> I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next time!)
> but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew recipe. A lot
> of the recipes I have found have tomatoes in them, and I can't eat tomatoes!
> I just want something simple that I can put in a crock pot and forget about
> till time for eating. Oh, for my grandmother's cooking skills! Sigh.

I love beef & barley stew. All you need is gravy beef, onions, stock and
lots of pearl barley, plus whatever seasonings you like. An hour before
serving, you might want to pop in some potatoes, but its just as good all by
itself.

Its *eccellent* for a cold winter's night, and ideally should be sopped up
with some nice crusty bread.

Yowie
jmcquown - 19 Feb 2005 12:30 GMT
>> I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next
>> time!) but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Yowie

Ahhh, yes!  I have barley in the pantry!  I love barley in a good beef stew!

Jill
Mary - 19 Feb 2005 17:41 GMT
> > I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next time!)
> > but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew recipe. A lot
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Its *eccellent* for a cold winter's night, and ideally should be sopped up
> with some nice crusty bread.

Barley also has some sort of great nutritional elements--
but I forget which ones!
pmendhall - 19 Feb 2005 23:42 GMT
> but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew recipe.

Try Irish Stew recipes, substitute the lamb with beef.  On we used recently
was modified from the Joy of Cooking.  We took it to a party and everyone
loved it.  It didn't last the evening.

Diane

Irish Stew

Cut into 1 1/2 inch cubes
1 1/2 pounds beef

Peel and slice 3/4 cup onions
2/1/2 pounds potatoes  (note we didn't peel the potatoes, just scrubbed them
well and cut them up.)

Put in the bottom of a heavy pan a layer of potatoes, a layer of meat, and a
few slices of onion.  Repeat this twice, ending with potatoes on top.

Season each layer with salt and pepper.  (We also added rosemary, and
garlic)

Add to the pot 1 bay leaf

Pour over the layers:
2 cups of boiling stock or water
2 tablespoons finely chopped parsley

Bring to a boil.  cover and simmer gently about 2 1/2 hours or until the
meat is tender.  Shake the pot periodically to keep the potatoes from
sticking.  When done, all the moisture should have been absorbed by the
potatoes.
 
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