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Mishi - 19 Feb 2005 04:25 GMT I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next time!) but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew recipe. A lot of the recipes I have found have tomatoes in them, and I can't eat tomatoes! I just want something simple that I can put in a crock pot and forget about till time for eating. Oh, for my grandmother's cooking skills! Sigh.
Thanks in advance! Patti - in cold, snowy, Central New York State, USA (temp right now is about 5 degrees +F.)
Jo Firey - 19 Feb 2005 04:48 GMT >I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next time!) > but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew recipe. A lot [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > about > 5 degrees +F.) I don't care for stew made in a crock pot as I think it overcooks the vegetables, but the following is an old family stand-by
2 1/2 pounds stew meat (approximate) I Envelope Lipton Dried Onion Soup Mix I can Cream of Mushroom Soup I can of red wine.\ 1 Bay Leaf
We usually cook it for about 4 hours in a 300 degree oven but a crock pot should work as well.
Good with rice or noodles or mashed potatoes Jo
Mary - 19 Feb 2005 04:56 GMT A lot
> of the recipes I have found have tomatoes in them, and I can't eat tomatoes! > I just want something simple that I can put in a crock pot and forget about [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Patti - in cold, snowy, Central New York State, USA (temp right now is about > 5 degrees +F.) Patti--
I am making mine tommorrow! This recipe makes enough to have for a few meals for two plus some to freeze:
3 lbs London Broil or any good lean beef. (Don't get stew beef there is too much fat!) Cut it into bite sized chunks.
2 cups flour salted and peppered, spread on a tray or plate.
Coat meat cubes with flour, maybe 15 at a time.
1/2 cup olive oil. Put half in a large, deep skillet or heavy soup pot. Set burner on high.
When pan is hot, brown meat cubes, being careful not to put too many in the pot at a time because it takes longer for them to brown. Using a slotted spoon place browned cubes to drain on paper towels. (The browning takes the longest, but is worth it. All that good browned flour becomes the rich brown broth.)
When it looks like you need more oil in the pan, add the other half of the olive oil.
When all meat is browned, return to the skillet, add four cups of water, and bring to a boil. (At this point, if you want to put it in a crock pot on "auto" you can.) Put a few bay leaves in. Simmer 2.5 hours.
Add potatoes and carrots last 20 minutes if on stove top, last hour in crock pot. (Sometimes I brown onions and put them in, too, it just depends on your taste.)
It is a really nice stew, especially if you use fresh ground pepper and good meat. Remember, some of the leanest cuts are the toughest, and are meant to be braised this way!
Hope you like it.
Julie Cook - 21 Feb 2005 03:38 GMT Jill,
Last night I had the most wonderful crab stuffed Talapia. I have two great fishmongers at one of our Publix grocery stores nearby and the one who was working was making it when I was at the store yesterday. I wanted fish but couldn't decide what and she was finishing a tray and recommended it. It was like crab seasoned for crab cakes which was spread (about 3/4" thick) on one talapia filet and then topped with a second filet. In case I can't get it premade in the future I was hoping you (or anyone) might have a good crab cake recipe that would work in a situation like this. It can't have too much breading in it since it doesn't get fried but rather baked.
Julie
Mary - 21 Feb 2005 16:43 GMT > Jill, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > situation like this. It can't have too much breading in it since it > doesn't get fried but rather baked. This type of stuffing is great in mushroom caps; if you find a recipe for crab-stuffed mushrooms it will work for the tilapia. I have a killer recipe for Maryland Crab Cakes, but it is for backfin lump type cakes that must be gently sauteed in butter and would not hold up well as a stuffing because there is little holding it together--the best idea for backfin crab cakes, but not for stuffing.
Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Feb 2005 19:38 GMT > This type of stuffing is great in mushroom caps; if you find a recipe for > crab-stuffed mushrooms it will work for the tilapia. I have a killer recipe > for Maryland Crab Cakes, but it is for backfin lump type cakes that must be > gently sauteed in butter and would not hold up well as a stuffing because > there is little holding it together--the best idea for backfin crab cakes, > but not for stuffing. The only thing I miss about living on the east coast is the seafood. The plan is to spend a week at my parents' house this summer, and I hope to eat some jumbo shrimp right off the boat for a few of those meals. Mmmmmmmmmmm.
The only problem with NC is that you really have to prepare the seafood at home. All the restaurants ruin it with all their batter, which literally makes my stomach cramp.
 Signature monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully
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Julie Cook - 21 Feb 2005 20:15 GMT >>This type of stuffing is great in mushroom caps; if you find a recipe for >>crab-stuffed mushrooms it will work for the tilapia. I have a killer recipe [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > home. All the restaurants ruin it with all their batter, which literally > makes my stomach cramp. I'm with you Monique. I'd much rather have my seafood grilled or blackened. I'm hoping Mary will share her backfin lump type cake recipe. One of the steak houses we frequent serves crab cakes like this and I love them. I just haven't managed to replicate the recipe at home (though I've tried). I'm one of the weird people of the world in that I don't like lobster but I love everything else that comes out of the sea (including squid and octopus).
Julie
Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Feb 2005 20:40 GMT > I'm one of the weird people of the world in that I don't like lobster > but I love everything else that comes out of the sea (including squid > and octopus). Lobster's okay by me, but I find the much cheaper shrimp to be yummier. I adore king crab legs, though.
All other seafood is on a case by case basis =P
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Mary - 21 Feb 2005 20:55 GMT > > The only thing I miss about living on the east coast is the seafood. The plan > > is to spend a week at my parents' house this summer, and I hope to eat some [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > home. All the restaurants ruin it with all their batter, which literally > > makes my stomach cramp. Monique, I missed this post. I am missing posts somehow. Please don't anyone feel ignored if I don't answer! Yes, seafood here is usually battered and fried. I have relatives in Maryland, so I love seafood Maryland style. Some folks, for example, boil lobster tails. But as far as I am concerned the only way to do them justice is to broil in butter. (Cholesterol is so high in lobster, you might as well use butter!) Then you have to serve it with drawn butter (just heated so all the salt is at the bottom)!
> I'm with you Monique. I'd much rather have my seafood grilled or > blackened. You know what, I am so bad I like at ALL ways!! I love fried catfish. I can only eat oysters fried, for some reason. I love my broiled lobster tails and sauteed crab cakes, but of course rarely have these expensive treats. Mostly I just broil or grill thick salmon or grouper steaks when I can find them on sale. If you like scallops, they are great sauteed in fresh garlic and olive oil and served with steams snow peas and white and wild rice. I love the little chewy bay scallops, not the big soft sea scallops. The latter are usually pressed out of some fish, and not scallops at all.
>I'm hoping Mary will share her backfin lump type cake recipe. Just did! I am happy to share!
> One of the steak houses we frequent serves crab cakes like this and I > love them. I just haven't managed to replicate the recipe at home > (though I've tried). I'm one of the weird people of the world in that I > don't like lobster but I love everything else that comes out of the sea > (including squid and octopus). Oo, I have not tried octopus. The best squid I have ever had was in big succulent lumps, commonly served in Charleston SC as an appetizer. The worse squid: in a South American restaurant in Washington DC, in rubbery red bits with tentacles still attached! Eeeyu!
Julie Cook - 21 Feb 2005 20:07 GMT > This type of stuffing is great in mushroom caps; if you find a recipe for > crab-stuffed mushrooms it will work for the tilapia. I'll have to do a search and see what I can find. Thanks for the suggestion.
I have a killer
> recipe for Maryland Crab Cakes, but it is for backfin lump type > cakes that must be gently sauteed in butter and would not hold up > well as a stuffing because there is little holding it together--the best > idea for backfin crab cakes, but not for stuffing. This sounds wonderful! I love crabcakes that are sauteed rather than full of breading and fried. Would you be willing to share your recipe?
Julie
Mary - 21 Feb 2005 20:35 GMT "Julie Cook" <jcook03@emory.edu> wrote :
> I have a killer > > recipe for Maryland Crab Cakes, but it is for backfin lump type [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > This sounds wonderful! I love crabcakes that are sauteed rather than > full of breading and fried. Would you be willing to share your recipe? Sure! It has been handed down for generations. My measurements are inexact, but I will try to be as clear as I can.
2 lbs (or containers, sometimes they are in liquid measurements) lump backfin crabmeat. Handling carefully so that lumps remain intact, check for any bits of shell left behind and remove.
Place crabmeat in bowl. Add one teaspoon dry mustard, one teaspoon "Old Bay" (made by McCormick) seasoning, two tablespoons of mayonnaise, one beaten egg, and a handful of finely crumbled bread crumbs. Mix together lightly to keep lumps of backfin as intact as possible. Mixture should be just moist enough to be able to form cakes. If too moist, add a few bread crumbs. The idea is to have as little filler as possible, so that after you fry the crabcakes you have nice big lumps of white backfin peeping out from under a light brown crispy surface.
Melt four tablespoons butter in a fry pan over medium heat. When the butter is all melted and beginning to sizzle, form the crab cakes and fry for about ten minutes a side. Remember, the crab meat itself is already cooked. You just want the outside brown and lightly crispy.
Drain on paper towels. Should serve four -six but in my house maybe two! We love crab cakes.
I hope you enjoy them!
Julie Cook - 21 Feb 2005 20:51 GMT > "Julie Cook" <jcook03@emory.edu> wrote : > [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > I hope you enjoy them! Sounds delicious! I'm going to try them this week, thank you! Julie
Mary - 21 Feb 2005 21:00 GMT > Sounds delicious! I'm going to try them this week, thank you! > Julie You are welcome any time! I hope they turn out great!
SuzQ - 22 Feb 2005 00:00 GMT by "Mary" <marys@catlovernospam.com> Feb 21, 2005 at 03:35 PM
"Julie Cook" <jcook03@emory.edu> wrote :
> This sounds wonderful! I love crabcakes that are sauteed rather than > full of breading and fried. Would you be willing to share your recipe? Sure! It has been handed down for generations. My measurements are inexact, but I will try to be as clear as I can.
2 lbs (or containers, sometimes they are in liquid measurements) lump backfin crabmeat. Handling carefully so that lumps remain intact, check for any bits of shell left behind and remove.
Place crabmeat in bowl. Add one teaspoon dry mustard, one teaspoon "Old Bay" (made by McCormick) seasoning, two tablespoons of mayonnaise, one beaten egg, and a handful of finely crumbled bread crumbs. Mix together lightly to keep lumps of backfin as intact as possible. Mixture should be just moist enough to be able to form cakes. If too moist, add a few bread crumbs. The idea is to have as little filler as possible, so that after you fry the crabcakes you have nice big lumps of white backfin peeping out from under a light brown crispy surface.
Melt four tablespoons butter in a fry pan over medium heat. When the butter is all melted and beginning to sizzle, form the crab cakes and fry for about ten minutes a side. Remember, the crab meat itself is already cooked. You just want the outside brown and lightly crispy.
Drain on paper towels. Should serve four -six but in my house maybe two! We love crab cakes.
I hope you enjoy them!
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Great recipe, no corn, little dairy I could eat it. Suz?
Jo Firey - 22 Feb 2005 00:56 GMT > Sure! It has been handed down for generations. My measurements > are inexact, but I will try to be as clear as I can. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > I hope you enjoy them! Oh my. You may have actually got me headed for the kitchen. I love crab cakes. But it is hard to find them on the west coast. I grew up close enough to the Chesapeake to know how they are supposed to taste.
And I have everything in the kitchen, including a refrigerated can of Phillips crab and a new box of Old Bay. Just been trying to get up my nerve.
Jo
Mary - 22 Feb 2005 01:10 GMT > > Sure! It has been handed down for generations. My measurements > > are inexact, but I will try to be as clear as I can. [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > Phillips crab and a new box of Old Bay. Just been trying to get up my > nerve. Jo, that is my recipe, passed down from my Eastern Shore Maryland great grandmother! I hope you do try it and that it is good.
jmcquown - 22 Feb 2005 06:56 GMT > Jill, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > spread (about 3/4" thick) on one talapia filet and then topped with a > second filet. Sounds a lot like my (very own!) stuffed flounder recipe. But any mild fish will work and tilapia is much less expensive! Here's what I do:
4 fish fillets, about 1-1/2 lbs. of like size 3 Tbs. minced onion 1 clove garlic, minced 1-1/2 tsp. lowfat mayonnaise dash of Tabasco sauce dash cayenne pepper 4 Tbs. lowfat margarine 1/2 c. dry breadcrumbs 1/4 tsp. dry mustard 1 Tbs. lemon juice 6 oz. flaked crabmeat 2 oz. diced shrimp 3 Tbs. lowfat margarine, melted sweet paprika (mostly for colour) 1/2 c. water or milk
Preheat oven to 350F. Saute onion and garlic in butter until translucent. Transfer to a mixing bowl and blend with breadcrumbs, mayo and dry mustard. Add crabmeat, shrimp, hot sauce and cayenne and lemon juice and blend well until moist. Spray a baking dish with vegetable cooking spray. Place 2 fillets in the dish and spoon the stuffing onto the center of the fillet. Split each of the other two fillets in half and wrap them around the stuffed fillets. Secure with toothpicks if necessary. Brush all over with the melted margarine and sprinkle with paprika. Pour water or milk around the fillets in the baking dish. Bake for 20 minutes, brushing once more with melted butter halfway during cooking, until the fish is flaky. This serves 2 very generously. You may use smaller fillets to cook for 4 or more people.
Jill
In case I can't get it premade in the future I was
> hoping you (or anyone) might have a good crab cake recipe that would > work in a situation like this. It can't have too much breading in it > since it doesn't get fried but rather baked. > > Julie jmcquown - 22 Feb 2005 07:03 GMT >> Jill, >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> spread (about 3/4" thick) on one talapia filet and then topped with a >> second filet. NOTE: I often use the terms butter and margarine interchangeably. I tend to cook with butter but I designed all of my recipes to be made with lowfat margarine due to my mothers cholesterol problems. So when I say "butter", unless specifically warned to ONLY use butter (aka Scottish shortbread) you may use either or :)
Jill
> Sounds a lot like my (very own!) stuffed flounder recipe. But any > mild fish will work and tilapia is much less expensive! Here's what [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> >> Julie mlbriggs - 19 Feb 2005 05:57 GMT > I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next time!) > but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew recipe. A lot [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Patti - in cold, snowy, Central New York State, USA (temp right now is about > 5 degrees +F.) I'm not a cook. I used to take organ lessons in my teacher's home. Sometimes she would be making chicken soup or stew and she used Rosemary. Boy! that smelled good. She added the vegetables later.
marys@catlover.com - 19 Feb 2005 08:01 GMT M.L. Briggs wrote:
>I'm not a cook. I used to take organ lessons in my teacher's home. >Sometimes she would be making chicken soup or stew and she used Rosemary. >Boy! that smelled good. She added the vegetables later. It is wonderful with pork or chicken. A simple but delicious thing to do is to put your oven on broil, line a pan with foil (so you won't have to scrub) and put loin chops on the foil with rosemary tucked *under* them so that the flavor goes through and the rosemary will not burn. Takes about 7 minutes per side. Brush or spoon a little olive oil on top of the chops and cracked pepper.
Rosemary is easy to grow in a hot, sunny place with soil that drains, too.
SuzQ - 20 Feb 2005 23:54 GMT by marys@catlover.com Feb 19, 2005 at 12:01 AM
M.L. Briggs wrote:
>I'm not a cook. I used to take organ lessons in my teacher's home. >Sometimes she would be making chicken soup or stew and she used Rosemary.
>Boy! that smelled good. She added the vegetables later. Mary: It is wonderful with pork or chicken. A simple but delicious thing to do is to put your oven on broil, line a pan with foil (so you won't have to scrub) and put loin chops on the foil with rosemary tucked *under* them so that the flavor goes through and the rosemary will not burn. Takes about 7 minutes per side. Brush or spoon a little olive oil on top of the chops and cracked pepper.
Rosemary is easy to grow in a hot, sunny place with soil that drains, too. __________________________________________________________
Adding lemon slices with the rosemary to chicken or pork is also good. Suz
Mary - 21 Feb 2005 01:46 GMT > by marys@catlover.com Feb 19, 2005 at 12:01 AM > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Adding lemon slices with the rosemary to chicken or pork is also good. > Suz I'll try that next time, thanks!
Monique Y. Mudama - 19 Feb 2005 07:57 GMT > I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next time!) > but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew recipe. A lot > of the recipes I have found have tomatoes in them, and I can't eat tomatoes! > I just want something simple that I can put in a crock pot and forget about > till time for eating. Oh, for my grandmother's cooking skills! Sigh. You can't eat tomatoes???
I'd starve. I really would.
 Signature monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully
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jmcquown - 19 Feb 2005 08:35 GMT > I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next > time!) but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Patti - in cold, snowy, Central New York State, USA (temp right now > is about 5 degrees +F.) Chicken stew is easy; I'm winging this so forgive me. You'll want to brown the chicken first. Chop your veggies (onion, carrots, celery, potatoes, maybe a parsnip) and put them in the bottom of the crock pot. Put the browned chicken pieces on top of the vegetables.
NOTE: You want to remove the meat from the bones - some cooks here in the Southern US don't but asthetically I like my stew without having to pick bones out when I'm eating. You can use boneless chicken breasts or thighs if you'd like; still brown them in a skillet in a little oil first; you can do this the night before and refrigerate it. Tear the meat into bite-size pieces.
Anyway, place the chicken on top of the veggies. Blend a can of cream of chicken (or cream of celery) soup with a can of water or chicken broth and add to the pot. Season with rubbed sage (or "poultry seasoning" which is mostly sage) and black pepper. Put the lid on the crock pot and set it on LOW. Go to work. Come home. Eat.
I like to add dumplings to stew. If you want to do that, crank the heat up on the crock pot when you get home so it comes to a simmer. Mix together 1-3/4 cups. flour, 2-1/2 tsp. baking powder, 3/4 tsp. salt, 1/3 c. vegetable shortening until the mixture is crumbly. Stir in 1 c. milk or buttermilk with a fork until you have a gooey dough. Drop this by teaspoonfuls onto the bubbling stew. Let it simmer 10 minutes uncovered, then cover the pot again and cook another 10 minutes.
Jill
Mary - 19 Feb 2005 17:40 GMT > > I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next > > time!) but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > the bubbling stew. Let it simmer 10 minutes uncovered, then cover the pot > again and cook another 10 minutes. Without the dumplings this sounds like Brunswick Stew, an Eastern NC favorite.
jmcquown - 19 Feb 2005 23:02 GMT >>> I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next >>> time!) but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Without the dumplings this sounds like Brunswick Stew, an > Eastern NC favorite. Very much like it. In fact, if you want you can use rabbit instead of chicken :) I also like to throw some frozen green beans in with the other veggies and sometimes corn.
Jill
Yowie - 19 Feb 2005 11:18 GMT > I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next time!) > but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew recipe. A lot > of the recipes I have found have tomatoes in them, and I can't eat tomatoes! > I just want something simple that I can put in a crock pot and forget about > till time for eating. Oh, for my grandmother's cooking skills! Sigh. I love beef & barley stew. All you need is gravy beef, onions, stock and lots of pearl barley, plus whatever seasonings you like. An hour before serving, you might want to pop in some potatoes, but its just as good all by itself.
Its *eccellent* for a cold winter's night, and ideally should be sopped up with some nice crusty bread.
Yowie
jmcquown - 19 Feb 2005 12:30 GMT >> I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next >> time!) but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Yowie Ahhh, yes! I have barley in the pantry! I love barley in a good beef stew!
Jill
Mary - 19 Feb 2005 17:41 GMT > > I don't have a flame war to start (I promise I will try harder next time!) > > but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew recipe. A lot [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Its *eccellent* for a cold winter's night, and ideally should be sopped up > with some nice crusty bread. Barley also has some sort of great nutritional elements-- but I forget which ones!
pmendhall - 19 Feb 2005 23:42 GMT > but I am begging hat in hand for a good beef or chicken stew recipe. Try Irish Stew recipes, substitute the lamb with beef. On we used recently was modified from the Joy of Cooking. We took it to a party and everyone loved it. It didn't last the evening.
Diane
Irish Stew
Cut into 1 1/2 inch cubes 1 1/2 pounds beef
Peel and slice 3/4 cup onions 2/1/2 pounds potatoes (note we didn't peel the potatoes, just scrubbed them well and cut them up.)
Put in the bottom of a heavy pan a layer of potatoes, a layer of meat, and a few slices of onion. Repeat this twice, ending with potatoes on top.
Season each layer with salt and pepper. (We also added rosemary, and garlic)
Add to the pot 1 bay leaf
Pour over the layers: 2 cups of boiling stock or water 2 tablespoons finely chopped parsley
Bring to a boil. cover and simmer gently about 2 1/2 hours or until the meat is tender. Shake the pot periodically to keep the potatoes from sticking. When done, all the moisture should have been absorbed by the potatoes.
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