Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / February 2005
Back to Lurking! [Was, Introduction]
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Mary - 18 Feb 2005 00:40 GMT Hi folks!
I am a regular reader of this group, but generally do not post here because I was around way back when this group was formed, and I respect your wish to have a warm and fuzzy place to share kitty things. I don't plan on posting here after this for the same reason.
Understand, though, that heavy-handed tactics such as the ones Usenet Lynnie uses with anyone she does not like, specifically complaining to ISPs about TOS violations that just have not happened, tends to open a nasty can of worms for everyone.
Usenet, including this group, is a global,unmoderated forum. You may wish for a group to be a certain way, but you cannot enforce that wish. Even here.
And netcops never, ever win.
Purrs to all your kitties, hope you went to look at mine. I will be over in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, keeping the world safe from the Lynnies of the world.
~Peace~
Mary Smith
CatNipped - 18 Feb 2005 01:00 GMT .
> Hi folks! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > place to share kitty things. I don't plan on posting here > after this for the same reason. Why? Don't you have any warm and fuzzy things you can share with us about your owners?
> Understand, though, that heavy-handed tactics such as the > ones Usenet Lynnie uses with anyone she does not like, > specifically complaining to ISPs about TOS violations > that just have not happened, tends to open a nasty > can of worms for everyone. On this issue, I have to agree with you. The old, "I may not agree with what you say but I will fight to the death to defend your right to say it" thing.
*However*, there are *thousands* of places and newsgroups on the net where people flame each other, vent their spleen, and act totally barbaric and cruel to each other. There no shortage of places like that to be found if that's what you like to do.
This little corner of the usenet world is a haven, a place where people *LIKE* each other and *LOVE* each others furry little owners. This is a place where we *HELP* each other (there's been many a kitty here whose vet bills have been paid by total strangers - and even a plane fare purchased for someone who desperately needed to be with their family over the holidays). This is totally unheard of anywhere else on the 'net that I know if.
Here is where I come when the world has been kicking me around, my boss has screamed at me, and I'm feeling depressed. Here is where I come when I am sick at heart over the cruelty in the world, the abuse to babies or animals that has become just too much for me to bear on my own any longer.
I would hate for this group to become like all the rest - we already have all the rest if we feel like being contentious. This place is special, this place is even a little bit magic.
> Usenet, including this group, is a global,unmoderated forum. > You may wish for a group to be a certain way, but you cannot > enforce that wish. Even here. No, this is where you're wrong. There's all kinds of enforcement. One form of enforcement is just plain ignoring what we don't want here (or better yet using it to share recipes). When it comes down to it, flamers and troll just want attention and they go away pretty quickly when they don't get it.
> And netcops never, ever win. > > Purrs to all your kitties, hope you went to look at mine. > I will be over in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, keeping the > world safe from the Lynnies of the world. Purrs back at yours, and I did go look at the pics of your kitties, they're adorable (especially the little tuxedo with the spotted nose!).
Hugs,
CatNipped
> ~Peace~ > > Mary Smith Cheryl - 18 Feb 2005 01:06 GMT On Thu 17 Feb 2005 07:40:23p, Mary wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes (news:aHlwYXRpYQ==.5b385eafb8994a2a9495cb310d551483@ 1108687223.nulluser.com):
> Hi folks! > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Mary Smith Gawd you're just so full of yourself. In my mind you are a very small person with a very big head. Like a caricature.
Mary Smith indeed. Your only point in posting here in the first place was to bait. Ignoring someone lying about me is not going to happen with me, I don't care where it is. I'm glad you're leaving. Good riddance. Go play in health and behavior. At least you have slurpers there.
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Victor Martinez - 18 Feb 2005 02:04 GMT > Usenet, including this group, is a global,unmoderated forum. > You may wish for a group to be a certain way, but you cannot > enforce that wish. Even here. Oh yes we can. We've been doing it for years. :)
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Yoj - 18 Feb 2005 02:31 GMT > > Usenet, including this group, is a global,unmoderated forum. > > You may wish for a group to be a certain way, but you cannot > > enforce that wish. Even here. > > Oh yes we can. We've been doing it for years. :) Yup. Killfiles are great tools. Ignoring works pretty well too.
Joy
Monique Y. Mudama - 18 Feb 2005 05:21 GMT > Yup. Killfiles are great tools. Ignoring works pretty well too. With apologies to Axl Rose and anyone who reads this, with all the talk of killfiling plus a fortuitous random selection by my iPod, this got stuck in my head ....
I used to love her .... (oooh yeah) But I had to killfile her I used to love her .... (awwwww yah) But I had to killfile her She b*tched so much She drove me nuts! And now we're happier this waayayayayayayah ...
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OU812? - 18 Feb 2005 05:44 GMT >>Yup. Killfiles are great tools. Ignoring works pretty well too. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > She drove me nuts! > And now we're happier this waayayayayayayah ... rofl... one of my favorite guns and roses songs.. and put to such good use!
Kristy
mlbriggs - 18 Feb 2005 06:00 GMT >> Yup. Killfiles are great tools. Ignoring works pretty well too. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > She drove me nuts! > And now we're happier this waayayayayayayah ... I keep thinking about a nursery rhyme about two cats of Kilkenny. Does anyone know it? MLB
Karen - 18 Feb 2005 11:33 GMT >>> Yup. Killfiles are great tools. Ignoring works pretty well too. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I keep thinking about a nursery rhyme about two > cats of Kilkenny. Does anyone know it? MLB There once were two cats of Kilkenny, Each thought there was one cat too many, So they fought and they fit, And they scratched and they bit, Till, excepting their nails And the tips of their tails, Insteads of two cats, there weren't any
Wow. You are right MLB.
Monique Y. Mudama - 18 Feb 2005 15:41 GMT >> I keep thinking about a nursery rhyme about two >> cats of Kilkenny. Does anyone know it? MLB [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Wow. You are right MLB. Good point.
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mlbriggs - 18 Feb 2005 18:57 GMT >>>> Yup. Killfiles are great tools. Ignoring works pretty well too. >>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Wow. You are right MLB. I remember my Grandfather telling me this one when I was about 12 years old. He also had a plaque on the wall which read: "Whichever way the wind doeth blow, some heart is glad to have it so. So blow it East or blow it West, the way it blows, that way is best". MLB
Yoj - 18 Feb 2005 07:30 GMT > > Yup. Killfiles are great tools. Ignoring works pretty well too. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > She drove me nuts! > And now we're happier this waayayayayayayah ... LOL!
Joy
Yowie - 18 Feb 2005 03:48 GMT .
> Hi folks! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > place to share kitty things. I don't plan on posting here > after this for the same reason. You are more than welcome to share warm and fuzzy kitty things. You always have been.
> Understand, though, that heavy-handed tactics such as the > ones Usenet Lynnie uses with anyone she does not like, > specifically complaining to ISPs about TOS violations > that just have not happened, tends to open a nasty > can of worms for everyone. I, and probably the rest of the group, don't give a fig what happens on other groups. Dragging other group's politics into this one does neither group justice.
> Usenet, including this group, is a global,unmoderated forum. > You may wish for a group to be a certain way, but you cannot > enforce that wish. Even here. > > And netcops never, ever win. Unfortunately, I think you've missed the point of RPCA. We're not just nameless faceless handles posting words up for other people to read. The relationships formed here are as much in Real Life as they are in cyberspace. This isn't *just* a global, unmoderated forum, it is a *community*, and we act as such.
> Purrs to all your kitties, hope you went to look at mine. > I will be over in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, keeping the > world safe from the Lynnies of the world. Any anecdotes you might want to share about your kitties will always be welcome here. As are Lyn's, Cheryl's and Karen's and anyone elses for that matter. We place nice here, and if you can't keep your personal diagreements with other people to yourself, then this probably isn't the group for you. There are bazillions of other NGs that you'd probably enjoy, all we ask is that you let us enjoy our little bit of cyberspace in peace.
Yowie
Shiral - 18 Feb 2005 04:21 GMT All I can tell you is, I came to this group because I love cats, and want to talk to other cat lovers. I joined this community and have stayed with it because I discovered the people posting here were also friendly and fun in addition to being as nuts about cats as I am.
I don't think anybody here is trying to be a policeman or woman. But we want RPCA to remain the friendly, relaxed group it is now. We understand that usenet is not moderated, but shouldn't the general will of the participants of any given forum count, as far as how topics are discussed? Perhaps that isn't your style, and that's fine. Groups that argue and flame one another more than they talk about the subject(s) at hand aren't my style, as it happens. I'd be sorry to see this Forum degenerate into that kind of News Group. If it were to happen, I'd leave, however regretfully.
Melissa
Yoj - 18 Feb 2005 07:29 GMT > All I can tell you is, I came to this group because I love cats, and > want to talk to other cat lovers. I joined this community and have [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Melissa If all of us who like the group the way it is killfile anyone who tries to start a flame war, we can keep it the way it is.
Joy
Gabey8 - 18 Feb 2005 17:42 GMT [[If all of us who like the group the way it is killfile anyone who tries to start a flame war, we can keep it the way it is.
Joy]]
That's the thing I love about this group. Flame-bait posts get responded to with recipes or with nothing at all. I wish EVERY discussion forum I belong to had the willpower to respond that way.
Fortunately, most of the other forums are web-based discussion boards, and if a poster steps TOO far out of line, the board's admin steps in and deletes posts and/or prevents troublemakers from posting anymore.
Debates = OK. There are bound to be topics where people have differing opinions. Attacks = NOT OK. That's where the admins on those web-based boards draw the line, and that appears to be where this group draws the line, as well. Hence all the fun recipes that crop up now and again.
Donna, and Captain and Stanley who are wondering where the kitty treat recipes are
Monique Y. Mudama - 18 Feb 2005 18:57 GMT > Debates = OK. There are bound to be topics where people have differing > opinions. Attacks = NOT OK. That's where the admins on those web-based > boards draw the line, and that appears to be where this group draws the > line, as well. Hence all the fun recipes that crop up now and again. The trouble with moderation is that a lot of moderators have god complexes, or acquire them over time.
I much prefer unmoderated, which unfortunately means some bad eggs will make their best effort to disrupt the proceedings. But overall I prefer it. I just web boards would let you "killfile" certain posters =P
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Yoj - 18 Feb 2005 20:01 GMT > [[If all of us who like the group the way it is killfile anyone who tries > to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to with recipes or with nothing at all. I wish EVERY discussion forum I > belong to had the willpower to respond that way. So do I! One of my favorite groups periodically erupts into a flame war over politics, whether U.S. or worldwide. I have to mark whole threads as read, and sometimes there isn't much left. And some of the participants are people who are really nice most of the time. It's sad.
I like the recipe idea.
Joy
Yowie - 18 Feb 2005 20:55 GMT > > [[If all of us who like the group the way it is killfile anyone who tries > > to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > I like the recipe idea. We've taken a leaf out of our cat's books. After all, is there any here among us who has not been very pointedly ignored by a kitty who is Not Happy with us?
Yowie
L. (usenetlyn) - 18 Feb 2005 21:06 GMT > We've taken a leaf out of our cat's books. After all, is there any here > among us who has not been very pointedly ignored by a kitty who is Not Happy > with us? > > Yowie LOL...cute....and *so* true!! :)
I should probably apologize to the group for the troll following me over here. Evidently I my non-responsiveness to her there prompted her to seek me out elsewhere. I'm glad this group knows how to handle it.
-L.
Adrian - 19 Feb 2005 16:48 GMT >>> [[If all of us who like the group the way it is killfile anyone who >>> tries to [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Yowie LOL, I can just imagine giving trolls the ear. ;-)
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Seanette Blaylock - 19 Feb 2005 21:03 GMT "Adrian" <anca@bigfoot.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Back to Lurking! [Was, Introduction]:
>> We've taken a leaf out of our cat's books. After all, is there any >> here among us who has not been very pointedly ignored by a kitty who >> is Not Happy with us? >LOL, I can just imagine giving trolls the ear. ;-) Or the tail. :-)
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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Tanada - 20 Feb 2005 22:24 GMT > LOL, I can just imagine giving trolls the ear. ;-) Several of our cats would have followed the trolls around to give them the butt.
Pam S. remembering Diamond, a major butt contributor
Shiral - 18 Feb 2005 20:05 GMT Killfiling works for me. =o) Although I was most directly responding to Mary. First time I've ever seen somebody leave a newsgroup that was too friendly. I've left more than one because I didn't like the general tone of hostility and suspicion toward newbies. I liked THIS group right away. =o)
Melissa
PatM - 19 Feb 2005 22:50 GMT "All I can tell you is, I came to this group because I love cats, and want to talk to other cat lovers. I joined this community and have stayed with it because I discovered the people posting here were also friendly and fun in addition to being as nuts about cats as I am."
Amen! I like this group just the way it is! :) JMHO PatM observing everything from her little corner....
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