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Bev - 22 Jan 2005 18:14 GMT
I have a suggestion for this.   Instead of having a competition which
always divides people into one winner and a heap of losers and sometimes
results in hurt feelings by people feeling their stories were left out,
why not have a readathon of all David's stories and nominate the best.  
I have read every one of them and they are so good.  I laughed and
laughed and it gave me such an insight into his interesting life.  I
think Paddy would love to hear our comments and join in our laughter at
the best of them.   This would be the best medicine of all for her.   I
suspect a lot of people here now were not around when David posted the
stories.   This would ensure that the stories would be all read by
newcomers who simply haven't had the time to do so up until now.

Bev
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Marina - 22 Jan 2005 18:39 GMT
> I have a suggestion for this.   Instead of having a competition which
> always divides people into one winner and a heap of losers and sometimes
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> stories.   This would ensure that the stories would be all read by
> newcomers who simply haven't had the time to do so up until now.

I'm in favour of this. I've never been very keen on competitions of any
kind. This sounds like a good way to commemorate David and his
inimitable style.

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Bev - 22 Jan 2005 18:46 GMT
> > I have a suggestion for this.   Instead of having a competition which
> > always divides people into one winner and a heap of losers and sometimes
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> Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/
> and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki

Sorry for the typo mistake, I meant Patty, of course :)

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Tanada - 22 Jan 2005 18:54 GMT
> I have a suggestion for this.   Instead of having a competition which
> always divides people into one winner and a heap of losers and sometimes
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>
> Bev

Excellent idea Bev.  I don't like the idea of competitions either, they
always bring out my fortress mentality.  Personally, I like the idea of
making a book out of Dave's stories (with Patty's permission) and
selling copies of them to defray the cost.  I know I'd like to buy a
copy of his work.

Pam S.
Bev - 22 Jan 2005 22:20 GMT
> > I have a suggestion for this.   Instead of having a competition which
> > always divides people into one winner and a heap of losers and sometimes
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>
> Pam S.

Exactly my thoughts Pam.   I'd buy a copy too.  When I talked to David
when we were in L.A. he told me he had published books himself and did
well at it too it seemed.  Believe me, that is quite an achievement.  
They were  technical books, if I remember rightly.

I also really dislike competitions - in my experience they bring out the
worst in people.   I have been on winning and losing sides so I know how
it feels from a writing point of view.  I always feel that sending stuff
off to an publisher is a bit like a competition - when it is rejected it
feels horrible, as if it is a personal insult (not at all the case, of
course, just a practical, commercial decision).  And there was the  time
I got second in a story writing competition and the winner was a lovely
woman who felt bad about my travelling quite a way to only pick up
second prize (they wouldn't tell you in advance) I wasn't resentful,
just depressed.  

Winning can be just as bad - I won a big competition once  worth several
thousand and at the prize giving a woman came up to me and said with
real hate that it wasn't fair, burst into tears and finished by saying
she should have won, sheeeeeesh it ruined the evening.   I spent a time
with her crying on my shoulder.  Who needs it - it was the last time I
entered a competition!!!  The point is I still felt bad because I felt
sorry for the woman who needed the money more than I did.

For me anyway, rejection is always depressing, I feel unloved and
worthless and suspect a lot of writers including some in the group, feel
the same way.  We are all a sensitive lot and it takes a lot of courage
to put down your thoughts for all the world to see :)

Bev

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Yowie - 22 Jan 2005 22:47 GMT
> > > I have a suggestion for this.   Instead of having a competition which
> > > always divides people into one winner and a heap of losers and sometimes
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> the same way.  We are all a sensitive lot and it takes a lot of courage
> to put down your thoughts for all the world to see :)

Fair enough, I didn't want to invoke any bad feelings in this group, rather
I wanted to encourage good stories.

Ah well, the road to hell is paved with good intentions....

Yowie
Bev - 22 Jan 2005 22:44 GMT
> > > > I have a suggestion for this.   Instead of having a competition which
> > > > always divides people into one winner and a heap of losers and
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>
> Yowie

Yowie, I didn't mean to put a wet blanket on your idea.  It may be that
a lot of people would like to have a competition and that I am just an
over-sensitive, neurotic twit, lol.  

((((hugs))))

Bev

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Yowie - 24 Jan 2005 05:10 GMT
> > > > > I have a suggestion for this.   Instead of having a competition which
> > > > > always divides people into one winner and a heap of losers and
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> a lot of people would like to have a competition and that I am just an
> over-sensitive, neurotic twit, lol.

I think the important thing is that we honour Dave's memory by doing
something that is something Dave would like, and of course the group feels
is appropriate.

The competition idea was just one idea to be kicked around. Some people have
perfectly reasonable objections to it, so we can dismiss this one idea and
move onto another. No great loss, but if we didn't think about it now whilst
the discussion and ideas are coming through, once a decision was made it
would have been too late, even if it turned out to be a great idea. So I'm
happy enough for people to say "nah, not for me" *now* when there is still
time to think about such things than "D'oh, why didn't you suggest that
earlier?" at a later point.

Yowie
Tanada - 22 Jan 2005 23:10 GMT
> Fair enough, I didn't want to invoke any bad feelings in this group, rather
> I wanted to encourage good stories.
>
> Ah well, the road to hell is paved with good intentions....

And if Dave were on that road, he'd be laughing his head off and joking
with the Devil.  Or playing jokes on the devil, knowing Dave.  I find
myself thinking of the bumper sticker that read:  Heaven doesn't want me
and Hell is afraid I'd take over.

Pam S.
pmendhall - 23 Jan 2005 00:07 GMT
This is so Dave.  I miss him and his posts.

Diane
> myself thinking of the bumper sticker that read:  Heaven doesn't want me
> and Hell is afraid I'd take over.
>
> Pam S.
Tanada - 22 Jan 2005 23:07 GMT
> For me anyway, rejection is always depressing, I feel unloved and
> worthless and suspect a lot of writers including some in the group, feel
> the same way.  We are all a sensitive lot and it takes a lot of courage
> to put down your thoughts for all the world to see :)
>
> Bev

Exactly.  I get depressed when I don't "win" or even get "nominated."
Worse, I feel badly for all those who have written great posts and
aren't mentioned.  I love reading all the stories posted in here and
would feel badly if they weren't recognized.

So I think that a book in Dave's memory would be best.  Either a
publishing of his work, or those who want writing a story in his memory.
 Personally, I want both, but what I want and a buck will buy a cup of
bad coffee.

Pam S.
mlbriggs - 22 Jan 2005 23:28 GMT
> I have a suggestion for this.   Instead of having a competition which
> always divides people into one winner and a heap of losers and sometimes
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>
> Bev

Especially nice too for those of us who have long forgotten each story.  
MLB
CatNipped - 23 Jan 2005 04:18 GMT
> I have a suggestion for this.   Instead of having a competition which
> always divides people into one winner and a heap of losers and sometimes
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> --
> Cats aren't clean, they're just covered with cat spit.

I agree Bev.  There are *SO* many great, funny, compassionate, and witty
posts from Dave.  I've only had a chance to read a few of them so far - RL
is still kicking my butt - but I can't wait to get back to reading them.

I've felt I've been divisive to the group a few times, and I wouldn't want
to see it happen again.  Ever post and poster here is dear and worthy in
their own special way, and each should be cherished and rewarded.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Gabey8 - 23 Jan 2005 05:31 GMT
Or how about this... we can nominate jokes, news stories, or posts from
OTHER sources (newsgroups or internet message boards) that are funny,
light-hearted, etc.

Then we're not competing against each other, even indirectly, but we're
keeping an eye open for the kind of humor that Dave would have
appreciated.

Of course, if his posts and/or a compilation of stories from RPCAers make
their way into book form, COUNT ME IN. I want one. Several, actually -- I
have friends for whom it would make a great gift.

Also, seeing his posts repeated here would be great. I've seen some of the
compilation of them on the websites listed in another post, and GOOD GRIEF
they're a riot. There are a few that I haven't read in months, but STILL
giggle out loud when I think of them. :o) And there are others that I'm
sure I haven't seen yet, because for the past few years I've been on the
ng off-and-on, rather than on a regular basis.

Those are just some thoughts I had.

Donna
Cathi - 23 Jan 2005 09:21 GMT
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<1c9a216b603970b73a6860e0ca09b51a@localhost.talkaboutpets.com>, Gabey8
<gabey8-@-aol-dot-com.?.invalid> writes
>Or how about this... we can nominate jokes, news stories, or posts from
>OTHER sources (newsgroups or internet message boards) that are funny,
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>their way into book form, COUNT ME IN. I want one. Several, actually -- I
>have friends for whom it would make a great gift.

If there's any money to be made from the sale of such a book, might it
be worth channelling it into the emergency fund?
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Gabey8 - 23 Jan 2005 05:37 GMT
Or how about this... we can nominate jokes, news stories, or posts from
OTHER sources (newsgroups or internet message boards) that are funny,
light-hearted, etc.

Then we're not competing against each other, even indirectly, but we're
keeping an eye open for the kind of humor that Dave would have
appreciated.

Of course, if his posts and/or a compilation of stories from RPCAers make
their way into book form, COUNT ME IN. I want one. Several, actually -- I
have friends for whom it would make a great gift.

Also, seeing his posts repeated here would be great. I've seen some of the
compilation of them on the websites listed in another post, and GOOD GRIEF
they're a riot. There are a few that I haven't read in months, but STILL
giggle out loud when I think of them. :o) And there are others that I'm
sure I haven't seen yet, because for the past few years I've been on the
ng off-and-on, rather than on a regular basis.

Those are just some thoughts I had.

Donna
 
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