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Karen - 21 Jan 2005 16:16 GMT
Check out the "off beat gallery" on cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/US/. There is
a cat playing (batting) snow around. It is so cute. I see there are also a
LOT of cats being rescued off Phi Phi island in Thailand now. Tons of
pictures at Yahoo news.
Kreisleriana - 21 Jan 2005 16:58 GMT
>Check out the "off beat gallery" on cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/US/. There is
>a cat playing (batting) snow around. It is so cute.

Aww, what an orange cutie. ;)

> I see there are also a
>LOT of cats being rescued off Phi Phi island in Thailand now. Tons of
>pictures at Yahoo news.

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Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Jan 2005 17:24 GMT
> Check out the "off beat gallery" on cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/US/. There is
> a cat playing (batting) snow around. It is so cute. I see there are also a
> LOT of cats being rescued off Phi Phi island in Thailand now. Tons of
> pictures at Yahoo news.

Cute!

Hrm, to take this OT, interesting article here:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/conditions/01/21/hiv.guidelines.ap/index.html

I didn't know you could take meds just after a sexual encounter to help
prevent AIDS infection.  This is important info.

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Howard Berkowitz - 21 Jan 2005 17:47 GMT
> > Check out the "off beat gallery" on cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/US/.
> > There is
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> I didn't know you could take meds just after a sexual encounter to help
> prevent AIDS infection.  This is important info.

If you want the full medical recommendation, it's at:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5402a1.htm
Karen - 21 Jan 2005 17:58 GMT
> > > Check out the "off beat gallery" on cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/US/.
> > > There is
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> >
> > Hrm, to take this OT, interesting article here:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/conditions/01/21/hiv.guidelines.ap/index.ht
> > ml
> >
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>
> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5402a1.htm

Boy, that's a nice little secret. I have absolutely NEVER heard that before.
People should know. Y'think?
Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Jan 2005 18:02 GMT
>> If you want the full medical recommendation, it's at:
>>
>> http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr5402a1.htm
>
> Boy, that's a nice little secret. I have absolutely NEVER heard that before.
> People should know. Y'think?

No kidding.  Why isn't this public knowledge?

Imagine being raped, contracting HIV, and then later finding out that it might
have been preventable ...

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Howard Berkowitz - 21 Jan 2005 21:24 GMT
> >> If you want the full medical recommendation, it's at:
> >>
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> might
> have been preventable ...

I'm actually puzzled that people don't know that this isn't new -- it's
just an improvement in the drugs, and a more aggressive treatment
policy.  For years, if there was a hospital needlestick event, AZT was
routinely offered. The standard of care has moved to a two-drug
combination; three- and more drug combinations are still more
appropriate for established disease.

*sigh* I hope this lack of information isn't more evidence of a US
policy not to make safety information available due to the influence of
religious conservatives.

Of course, HIV/AIDS isn't the only sexually transmitted disease. If
there is reason to give protective drugs there, a much shorter course of
antibiotics can prevent agaist syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, and
mycoplasma/ureaplasma.
Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Jan 2005 21:33 GMT
> I'm actually puzzled that people don't know that this isn't new -- it's just
> an improvement in the drugs, and a more aggressive treatment policy.  For
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> not to make safety information available due to the influence of religious
> conservatives.

I'll be happy to blame it on them, whether or not it's true.

> Of course, HIV/AIDS isn't the only sexually transmitted disease. If there is
> reason to give protective drugs there, a much shorter course of antibiotics
> can prevent agaist syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, and
> mycoplasma/ureaplasma.

Is there any such post-occurence preventative treatment for herpes?  I'm
wondering because I know HIV is a virus, and so is herpes.  Don't know about
the others.

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Howard Berkowitz - 21 Jan 2005 21:51 GMT
> > I'm actually puzzled that people don't know that this isn't new -- it's
> > just
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> about
> the others.

AFAIK, there's no recommended prophylaxis for herpes. That being said, I
don't think it would be unreasonable to try a short course of acyclovir
or vancyclovir, which suppress active disease and are unusually free of
side effects.

It's worth remembering that there is a vaccine for Hepatitis B, which is
much easier to acquire than HIV, especially from blood.
Jo Firey - 21 Jan 2005 21:43 GMT
I've seen quite a lot of news coverage the last few days of the protocol
being updated to include morning after incidents as well as drug use.

I'm guessing there has been a reluctance to advertise an after the fact
protocol as opposed to advertising a don't put yourself into that position
idea.

I'm sure some of the decision makers do not want to push the idea of do
whatever you please and we can fix it later.

I won't argue either notion.

Jo

>> >> If you want the full medical recommendation, it's at:
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> antibiotics can prevent agaist syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, and
> mycoplasma/ureaplasma.
Karen Chuplis - 22 Jan 2005 00:10 GMT
>>>> If you want the full medical recommendation, it's at:
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> antibiotics can prevent agaist syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia, and
> mycoplasma/ureaplasma.

Honest, I read a lot of health stuff Howard and I had NEVER heard this. I
think it is either US squeamishness or perhaps the overwhelming fear (not
necessarily unfounded the way we take to the latest miracle drug) that there
would be a clamor for it from people whom it either would not help or did
not need it. I dunno, but I definitely never heard of it.
jmcquown - 22 Jan 2005 00:19 GMT
>>>>> If you want the full medical recommendation, it's at:
>>>>>
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> whom it either would not help or did not need it. I dunno, but I
> definitely never heard of it.

Oddly, I heard of it on an episode of ER.  I can't recall the scenario but
Abby wanted AZT for a patient who didn't "qualify" for the drug (might have
been a rape case, I can't recall the plot).  So she pretended to get a
needle stick so she could get the drug presumeably for herself, then gave it
to the patient.

Jill
Howard Berkowitz - 22 Jan 2005 00:37 GMT
\

> > Honest, I read a lot of health stuff Howard and I had NEVER heard
> > this. I think it is either US squeamishness or perhaps the
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> it
> to the patient.

I saw the episode -- it was consensual, but the woman was left with a
note saying "I have AIDS", and was seen for a suicide attempt.   The
regimen prescribed (ostensibly) for Abby was aggressive on the scale of
the new CDC recommendations.

These recommendations call for what is now standard in treating
established HIV, Highly Active Anti-Retroviral Therapy (HAART), which is
a combination of different types of anti-HIV drugs, usually three in
clinical practice [1]. The HAART idea seemed to originate when the major
new class of anti-HIV drugs, the protease inhibitors, seemed to be the
key to, in many cases, bringing the apparent viral load [2] to zero and
people apparently being symptom-free. More recent studies show it's the
combination, not specifically protease inhibitors, that hits the virus
in different ways and tends to avoid it becoming resistant for long
periods. With current therapy, AIDS is now more of a serious but
manageable chronic disease than a death sentence.

[1] Three (sometimes two, sometimes up to five) specifically against
   the HIV virus. A patient may take many other drugs if they are
   immunosuppressed, to protect against opportunistic (non-HIV)
   infections.

[2] Unfortunately, while the viral load is massively reduced in most
   patients and undetectable in some, the hope that protease
   inhibitors and/or HAART was a cure proved false. The virus still
   seems to be able to hide below the threshold of detection, but
   would return if the drugs were stopped.
jmcquown - 22 Jan 2005 02:32 GMT
> \
>>>
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> regimen prescribed (ostensibly) for Abby was aggressive on the scale
> of the new CDC recommendations.

Perhaps, but it *is* a television show!

Jill
Monique Y. Mudama - 25 Jan 2005 21:04 GMT
> With current therapy, AIDS is now more of a serious but manageable
> chronic disease than a death sentence.

I did not know this, or hadn't heard it in such terms.  I hope this is true.

And now I must share the lyrics to one of my all-time favorite songs.  It gave
me chills and tears the first time I heard it, live.  It's a bit tongue in
cheek, but the whole idea is just so powerful ... I hadn't realized how much
AIDS affects our world until I heard this song ...

It's by Dan Bern.  Cure for Aids.  From
http://www.danbern.com/fiftyeggslyrics.html#cureforaids

The day they found a cure for AIDS
The day they found a cure for AIDS
Everybody took one little pill and was okay
The day they found a cure

The day they found a cure for AIDS
Everybody took one little pill and was okay
I slept with Cindy and Martha and Sue
i slept with Julie, Melissa and Kate
The day they found a cure

The day they found a cure for AIDS
Everybody took one little pill and was okay
The people who had plotted to get rid of all the gays
Admitted their guilt and then everything was fine
Everybody else said "I didn't know"
The day they found a cure

For six months
Noone went to work
They all had orgies
Morning after pills
Were sold in grocery stores
And gas stations

The day they found a cure for AIDS
Everybody took one little pill and was okay
We rented dirty movies
And ordered out for food
For three solid weeks
Everyone I met was nude
I slept with Julie, Melissa and Jake
Nobody was afraid
The day they found a cure
The day they found a cure
The day they found a cure for AIDS

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Rrb - 21 Jan 2005 22:08 GMT
> Check out the "off beat gallery" on cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/US/. There is
> a cat playing (batting) snow around. It is so cute. I see there are also a
> LOT of cats being rescued off Phi Phi island in Thailand now. Tons of
> pictures at Yahoo news.

What a great pic. But dirty litter box offerings to the "people" who
abandoned him during winter to the outdoors.
Karen Chuplis - 22 Jan 2005 00:11 GMT
>> Check out the "off beat gallery" on cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/US/. There is
>> a cat playing (batting) snow around. It is so cute. I see there are also a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> What a great pic. But dirty litter box offerings to the "people" who
> abandoned him during winter to the outdoors.
'True, but at least he has people looking after him and I would bet someone
eventually caves.
Pat - 22 Jan 2005 00:16 GMT
How do I find the "off beat gallery"? I searched the whole CNN site without
results. :(

> Check out the "off beat gallery" on cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/US/. There is
> a cat playing (batting) snow around. It is so cute. I see there are also a
> LOT of cats being rescued off Phi Phi island in Thailand now. Tons of
> pictures at Yahoo news.
Monique Y. Mudama - 22 Jan 2005 00:23 GMT
> How do I find the "off beat gallery"? I searched the whole CNN site without
> results. :(

    I saw it on the lower right hand corner of the page.

   
>> Check out the "off beat gallery" on cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/US/. There
> is
>> a cat playing (batting) snow around. It is so cute. I see there are also a
>> LOT of cats being rescued off Phi Phi island in Thailand now. Tons of
>> pictures at Yahoo news.

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Karen Chuplis - 22 Jan 2005 00:52 GMT
> How do I find the "off beat gallery"? I searched the whole CNN site without
> results. :(
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> LOT of cats being rescued off Phi Phi island in Thailand now. Tons of
>> pictures at Yahoo news.

Click on the link I posted then scroll down. It's on the right hand side.
 
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