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[OT] Yowlet with Vegemite
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Yowie - 19 Jan 2005 01:22 GMT Cary demonstrates what to do (or maybe not) when you encounter your first vegemite sandwich.
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Karen Chuplis - 19 Jan 2005 03:44 GMT > Cary demonstrates what to do (or maybe not) when you encounter your first > vegemite sandwich. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Yowie ROFL! I'm not sure if he approved or not!
Kreisleriana - 19 Jan 2005 16:51 GMT >> Cary demonstrates what to do (or maybe not) when you encounter your first >> vegemite sandwich. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >ROFL! I'm not sure if he approved or not! No, you just see the Australian attitude towards Vegemite. Good for eating, good for sniffing, good for wearing . . . ;)
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Sam Nash - 19 Jan 2005 05:24 GMT > Cary demonstrates what to do (or maybe not) when you encounter your first > vegemite sandwich. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Yowie I can't believe how much he's grown! Find looking young gentleman, Yowie. Sam
Yoj - 19 Jan 2005 06:38 GMT LOL! I never fed my kids Vegemite, but that still brings back memories. ;-)
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> Cary demonstrates what to do (or maybe not) when you encounter your first > vegemite sandwich. > > There are 5 pictures, starting here: http://au.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/yowie9644/detail?.dir=ec62&.dnm=97a6.jpg&.s
> rc=ph > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Yowie Krista - 19 Jan 2005 08:29 GMT > Cary demonstrates what to do (or maybe not) when you encounter your first > vegemite sandwich. > > There are 5 pictures, starting here: http://au.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/yowie9644/detail?.dir=ec62&.dnm=97a6.jpg&.s
> rc=ph > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Yowie Hee! Did he like it? It's hard to tell. ;-)
The Yowlet is *such* a cutie! He's looking less like a baby and more like a little boy.
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Irulan - 19 Jan 2005 15:51 GMT LOL! He sure looks like he's enjoying it! What does iti taste like? Jazz's mama
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> Cary demonstrates what to do (or maybe not) when you encounter your first > vegemite sandwich. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Yowie Kreisleriana - 19 Jan 2005 17:18 GMT >LOL! He sure looks like he's enjoying it! What does iti taste like? >Jazz's mama Toxic waste with salt. ;)
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Yowie - 19 Jan 2005 23:41 GMT > >LOL! He sure looks like he's enjoying it! What does iti taste like? > >Jazz's mama > > Toxic waste with salt. ;) LOL!
If you have never tasted marmite or promite its hard to describe. Its sorta like bonox, but thicker, if that helps (probably doesn't).
The best way I can describe it to someone who has never tried anything like it is to get powdered beef boullion or stock, and add just enough water to make a thick paste. The taste, while not the same, will be similar in nature to vegemite, ie very salty and umami tasting (umami is the 5th taste after salty, sweet, sour and bitter. It detects protein - beef jerky and strong cheese also have a strong umami taste)
Vegemite goes really well with cheese and we Aussies use it to add some "zing" to things like meatloaf and rissoles. As I said before, its not really suited to American style white bread. If you don't like things like vintage cheese, strong salamis and beef jerky, don't bother. But if you do, I'd reccomend you toast some sour dough bread, give it a genourous amount of butter, and then put on the least possible amount of vegemite you are physically able to do, just enough to add a hint of colour to the bread. Eat with other savoury (high umami) things. If you like the taste, slowly increase the amount of vegemite until you get to the right level.
Mixing it with the butter or margarine on a cold slice of bread or toast is also quite traditonal, as is putting a layer of vegemite on before making cheese-on-toast
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Howard Berkowitz - 20 Jan 2005 21:05 GMT > > >LOL! He sure looks like he's enjoying it! What does iti taste like? > > >Jazz's mama [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > sorta > like bonox, but thicker, if that helps (probably doesn't). It doesn't help that I keep reading that as "Botox", the brand name for the injectable form of Type A botulinus toxin, the most poisonous substance known!
> The best way I can describe it to someone who has never tried anything > like [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > salty, sweet, sour and bitter. It detects protein - beef jerky and strong > cheese also have a strong umami taste) I suspect that it's somewhat similar to the meat extracts and yeast extract pastes we use in microbiology -- a very stiff paste, which would be the next step after the most concentrated essence in French cooking -- glace de viande. The latter will coat a spoon when dipped in it, where the former has to be scooped out with some effort -- and is AWFUL to weigh out.
> Vegemite goes really well with cheese and we Aussies use it to add some > "zing" to things like meatloaf and rissoles. As I said before, its not [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > also quite traditonal, as is putting a layer of vegemite on before making > cheese-on-toast Where does the beer become involved? There must be beer -- isn't that the national soup of Australia? :-)
Yowie - 20 Jan 2005 22:28 GMT > > > >LOL! He sure looks like he's enjoying it! What does iti taste like? > > > >Jazz's mama [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > where the former has to be scooped out with some effort -- and is AWFUL > to weigh out. It is indeed a yeast extract paste. And yes, its like tar.
> > Vegemite goes really well with cheese and we Aussies use it to add some > > "zing" to things like meatloaf and rissoles. As I said before, its not [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Where does the beer become involved? There must be beer -- isn't that > the national soup of Australia? :-) Vegemite *is* beer! Just super concentrated sediments made from the spent yeast (and other beer sediments)
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Kreisleriana - 21 Jan 2005 00:14 GMT >> Where does the beer become involved? There must be beer -- isn't that >> the national soup of Australia? :-) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Yowie Aussie live on products of fermentation. Accounts for their bubbly nature. ;)
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Howard Berkowitz - 21 Jan 2005 01:00 GMT > >> Where does the beer become involved? There must be beer -- isn't that > >> the national soup of Australia? :-) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Aussie live on products of fermentation. Accounts for their bubbly > nature. ;) This is remarkably insightful. It certainly would describe the means of locomotion of a kangaroo.
Kreisleriana - 21 Jan 2005 16:24 GMT >> >> Where does the beer become involved? There must be beer -- isn't that >> >> the national soup of Australia? :-) [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >This is remarkably insightful. It certainly would describe the means of >locomotion of a kangaroo. Far Side cartoon: Mob of kangaroos in full flight-- annoyed roo looks at goofy faced one, and scolds: "Just jump, you fool! You don't have to say 'Boing Boing Boing'"
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Howard Berkowitz - 21 Jan 2005 17:34 GMT > >> >> Where does the beer become involved? There must be beer -- isn't > >> >> that [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > at goofy faced one, and scolds: "Just jump, you fool! You don't have > to say 'Boing Boing Boing'" There is a legendary story from the military aircraft simulation area, which several people in the industry claim is true. When Australia first got a flight simulator for armed helicopters, they decided to change some known pilot behavior: shooting at kangaroos.
The contractor was told, on short notice, to put kangaroos into the simulation. Without thinking it through, they grabbed some programs that produced visuals of (human) infantry, and changed the images to those of kangaroos. ...ahem...that's ALL they changed.
So, when they tried the next versions, the pilot spotted the kangaroos, and indeed swung in their direction and fired a cannon burst, which missed. The software simulating the former infantry, now kangaroos, went into its logic on dealing with attack helicopters.
Several kangaroos reached into their pouches (or something), and shoulder Stinger antiaircraft missiles, volleying guided missiles back at the helicopters. The pilot, screaming as the simulation got rather realistics, yelled "INCOMING" and took violent evasive action. Depending on the version of the story, he either crashed the helicopter or just managed to escape.
In either version, he was found sitting in his seat, mumbling "attack kangaroos. Attack kangaroos."
The Defence Ministry left it in, because they actually DID want to condition the pilots not to shoot at kangaroos.
Tanada - 21 Jan 2005 22:53 GMT > In either version, he was found sitting in his seat, mumbling "attack > kangaroos. Attack kangaroos." > > The Defence Ministry left it in, because they actually DID want to > condition the pilots not to shoot at kangaroos. Oh Gawd, Howard, that is just too funny. I'm printing it off for da family and to add to the funny pages we save up for his military oncologist.
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Yowie - 24 Jan 2005 01:39 GMT > > In either version, he was found sitting in his seat, mumbling "attack > > kangaroos. Attack kangaroos." [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Oh Gawd, Howard, that is just too funny. I'm printing it off for da > family and to add to the funny pages we save up for his military oncologist. Those dang Kangaroos!
Did I ever tell the story of when I was attacked by kangaroos?
My father is a keen bushwalker. Very keen. Mad perhaps.
My family and I know darn well never to accompany him on his bushwalks, otherwise known lovingly as "death marches" because thats what they end up being for those of us who don't own the legs of a 6'8" person (yes, my Dad is actually that tall) and isn't as fit as a mallee bull. By the time you think it would be nice to have a little break, have a snack and a drink, and perhaps replace the missing skin thats peeled off your feet, my father has only just started to warm up and there's at least another 4 hours of tramping though untracked-scrub (because my Dad suffers from "Geographic mis-alignment" otherwise known as having a total and complete lack of direction and therefore becoming hoplessly lost on many occasions).
But every so often the Madness would hit and one of us would think it might be A Nice Thing To Do to go for a walk with dear old Dad.
It was one of those occasions.
Mum had packed me with 6 sandwiches. Not half sandwiches. 6 full sandwishes, or 12 slices of bread. She did this as a kindness, as she knew I'd need *alot* of energy that day.
So off Dad and I trot, Dad in his slow and easy 6'8" lope, and me, not being quite so old as I am now, running after him because I only had the stride of a child.
Eventually, thank God, we stop. Dad needs a tree to go behind. I fall to the ground, exhausted. My insanity was quickly corrected, and I realised that I was in for a whole day of physical torture. I reckon army sargeants putting recruits through Basic Training have got nothing on my Dad - but then again, he *was* an Air Force sargeant. Explains alot really. I had come to my senses and with the quick thoughts of the desperate, reached into my backpack for one of those many sandwiches I now knew I would need throughout the rest of the death march. This wasn't actually a "break" merely a potty stop, and I didn't have much time.
From the perimeter of the clearing, they appeared.
Grey shadows at first, but they got bolder as they got nearer, obviously being lured by the smell of my lunch
A mob of eastern Grey kangaroos.
And they were Hungry
Dad had dissappeared for the time being, having had to find a suitable Tree to do things that Dads do that Daughters don't need to know about.
I was all alone.
Now as a kid, you think that wild animals are pretty neat. And the mob of 'roos were pretty neat. For a while, at least. The didn't hop at me, but rather crawled in their strange tail - and legs - tail and legs sort of crawl that only young babies can imitate.
I was delighted. Skippy was coming to say hello. I was thinking perhaps I'd like to scratch them behind hte ears and maybe one could tuck me into her pouch and then I'd finallybe able to keep up the pace with Dad.
And then they got closer, and they were no longer the size of Skippy, they were not wallabies (Skippy is actually a wallaby, not a roo) and they started standing up.
Eastern Grey roos are not the biggest in Australia, that honour goes to the Red Kangaroo, and the adult males can stand at over 7 foot. But Eastern Greys are no midgets either, and most of them were taller than me.
With childlike innocence, I thought it would be cute to feed one my sandwich. I stood up. The mob stopped. I reached out my arm and waved the remains of my first honey sandwich at the leader.
Much to my amusement, the leader of the mob, a male that was taller than I, took the sandwich and politely nibbled on it in curiousity. He was pleased with the taste, and gobbled the rest down greedily.
Another kangaroo hopped up to sample these heady delights
I put my hand into my backpack to get the next sandwich out. I was still quite comfortable feeding the second and third 'roo my lunch.
And then the mob closed in on me.
And they all wanted this new yummy food called "honey sandwich"
And they were going to *get* said "honey sandwich".
They had seen the source of these delicacies and they all wanted a taste.
Now.
I was being held hostage by a mob of kangaroos and the price was as many honey sandwiches as dear old Mum had packed.
At least 20 roos jostled and shoved to get to my backpack, which I had wisely abandoned seconds before. They tore it apart, spilling my water and devouring anything remotely edible (and probably a few inedioble things - 'roos aren't known for their intellectual capacities).
But once the exotic delicacies that are "honey sandwiches" had run out, they looked at me menacingly. Perhaps they also had a taste for young human flesh.
But hten I could hear Dad tromping back from wherever he had been, and they lazily bounced back to their Kangaroo Mafia hideout.
"Wow!," he said, "Did you catch that mob of 'roos? Amazing how fearless they are 'round humans. You'd think they'd know better"
The torrent of tears told Dad that I had indeed seen them although my woeful tale about my lunch being stolen wasn't entirely believed until he spotted the remains of hapless backpack.
Still, I do have to thank that mob of roos for one thing. Whilst they scared the absolute bajeebers out of me, no doubt scarring me for life (I am no longer a fan of 'Skippy' for a start), they also did me one heck of a favour. Without lunch, we had to turn back. And the mob of roos that nearly ate me also saved me from another 20km of "bush bashing" with Dad.
Dunno whether I should be grateful, or just very very scared.
Yowie
O J - 24 Jan 2005 05:11 GMT ------------<snip of 'the attack of the killer roos'>--------------
>Still, I do have to thank that mob of roos for one thing. Whilst they scared >the absolute bajeebers out of me, no doubt scarring me for life (I am no [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Dunno whether I should be grateful, or just very very scared. Here in the States, we have a place called Yellowstone Park, famous as a recreation area, but also known as the home of Yogi Bear (it's called Jellystone Park in the cartoon series). A child left alone with a pile of honey sandwiches might find herself in a similar situation with bears instead of roos. What would be your preference?
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Tish Silberbauer - 24 Jan 2005 08:51 GMT I shouldn't laugh, but I did. DH has been in a similar position, but didn't have the excuse of youth.
One of his temporary, part time jobs to get him through his (first) graduate degree was as a research assistant for a professor who studied rare frogs. On the first (and only) field trip to look for rare frogs Dave got a *teeeny* bit rat*rsed on burbon, failed to find any frogs and went to sleep in his tent in the middle of the Australian bush.
Turn to the next morning, when Dave crawls out of the tent a broken man - the Monster Hangover from Hell has struck! All he can do is fix himself something to eat and only thing he can find is cuppa soup (dehydrated soup mix - just add hot water) and bread. He staggers around, waiting for the soup to cool enough to drink and doesn't immediately notice the mob of eastern grey kangaroos at the edge of the campsite.
They enter his consciousness when the mob leader, a large male, appears in front of him, dripping saliva from its (his) jaws, and grabs the front of Dave's shirt with its 3 inch claws. Now Dave is 6'6" and that roo was standing well above his head without even trying.
"me want food NOW" is the very convincing body language from Mr Roo.
Dave, with one monster in his head and another grabbing his shirtfront, decrees that discretion is the better part of valour and donates his soup and bread (all over the ground) to the kangaroo, distracting it so that he can high-tail it back to the relative safety of the car.
He's been a bit "thingy" about kangaroos ever since!
Tish
>------------<snip of 'the attack of the killer roos'>-------------- >>Still, I do have to thank that mob of roos for one thing. Whilst they scared [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> >>Dunno whether I should be grateful, or just very very scared. Yowie - 24 Jan 2005 10:07 GMT Glad I'm not the only one who is a bit "thingy" about 'roos!
They're scary and *mob* is the perfect decription of them.
Yowie
> I shouldn't laugh, but I did. DH has been in a similar position, but > didn't have the excuse of youth. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > >> > >>Dunno whether I should be grateful, or just very very scared. Victor Martinez - 24 Jan 2005 13:04 GMT > They're scary and *mob* is the perfect decription of them. Say it ain't so! I grew up watching Skippy on TV and I *loved* it!
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Marina - 24 Jan 2005 16:14 GMT > I shouldn't laugh, but I did. DH has been in a similar position, but > didn't have the excuse of youth. <snip another tale of attacking killer roos>
Now I have another reason not to want to visit Australia (in addition to the horrible spiders>. Horrible, dangerous kangaroos that kill all my warm fuzzy illusions about Skippy.
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Kreisleriana - 24 Jan 2005 19:12 GMT >> I shouldn't laugh, but I did. DH has been in a similar position, but >> didn't have the excuse of youth. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >the horrible spiders>. Horrible, dangerous kangaroos that kill all my >warm fuzzy illusions about Skippy. I'm just grateful there were no drop bears. :P
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Yowie - 24 Jan 2005 10:12 GMT > ------------<snip of 'the attack of the killer roos'>-------------- > >Still, I do have to thank that mob of roos for one thing. Whilst they scared [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > with a pile of honey sandwiches might find herself in a similar > situation with bears instead of roos. What would be your preference? Dunno. How many bears would there be?
Between bears and kangaroos, my money would be on the 'roos. They're too stupid to know that they're supposed to be dead, and there's always *lots* of them!
Yowie
Marina - 24 Jan 2005 16:14 GMT > Those dang Kangaroos! > > Did I ever tell the story of when I was attacked by kangaroos? snippety>
I'm sure this was a very traumatic experience, but I couldn't help ROFLing! Great writing, yet again, Vicky.
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Kreisleriana - 24 Jan 2005 16:35 GMT (snip)
>I was being held hostage by a mob of kangaroos and the price was as many >honey sandwiches as dear old Mum had packed. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >Yowie YES!!! Something very similar happened to ex Mr. T and me in the Grampians. Did you ever look into a roo's eyes? <shudder> :P
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Yowie - 25 Jan 2005 01:53 GMT > (snip) > >I was being held hostage by a mob of kangaroos and the price was as many [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > YES!!! Something very similar happened to ex Mr. T and me in the > Grampians. Did you ever look into a roo's eyes? <shudder> :P Yup, and all you see is madness, incredible single-mindedness and total and utter stupidity.
Versus bears, my money wold still be on the 'roos.
Yowie
Howard Berkowitz - 01 Feb 2005 06:23 GMT > Yup, and all you see is madness, incredible single-mindedness and total > and > utter stupidity. > > Versus bears, my money wold still be on the 'roos. At the National Zoo in Washington DC, the outside yard for the giraffes is low on the side of a hill, so the giraffes and the humans are close to eye level with one another. Their eyes, and eyelashes, look like they came either from a Disney movie or a high-fashion eye makeup add.
Elephants have very knowing eyes if they decide to make eye contact, as do wolves. I've known some very nice wolves and wolf hybrids (and one orphaned red fox, who was extremely affectionate but NOT very bright).
SUQKRT - 01 Feb 2005 19:52 GMT >Elephants have very knowing eyes if they decide to make eye contact, as do wolves. I've known some very nice wolves and wolf hybrids (and one
>orphaned red fox, who was extremely affectionate but NOT very bright). Foxes are pretty, they don't haaaave to be bright ;o) Suz Macmoosette =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^=
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Debbie Wilson - 19 Jan 2005 18:17 GMT > Cary demonstrates what to do (or maybe not) when you encounter your first > vegemite sandwich. Sound effect: "Num-num-num-num-num!" He is enjoying his Vegemite!
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Yowie - 19 Jan 2005 23:46 GMT > > Cary demonstrates what to do (or maybe not) when you encounter your first > > vegemite sandwich. > > Sound effect: "Num-num-num-num-num!" > He is enjoying his Vegemite! Yup, that was pretty much the noise he was making (along with the other squeals, grunts and abab-woo-gabbagabba-lalala-pthpthpth sounds)
Yowie
Kreisleriana - 20 Jan 2005 18:47 GMT >> > Cary demonstrates what to do (or maybe not) when you encounter your >first [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Yowie Does he gurgle? My baby nephew makes a kind of trilling, gurgling sound that I love.
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O J - 19 Jan 2005 18:50 GMT >Cary demonstrates what to do (or maybe not) when you encounter your first >vegemite sandwich. Mmmmmmm! Vegemite! Can hardly wait to taste some -- looks like fun to play with too.
Regards and Purrs, O J
Monique Y. Mudama - 19 Jan 2005 20:47 GMT > Cary demonstrates what to do (or maybe not) when you encounter your first > vegemite sandwich. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Yowie That's ... um ... well, it's a good thing he has a bib =)
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Christina Websell - 20 Jan 2005 00:24 GMT This boy is training up to be a great Australian. IMHO.
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> Cary demonstrates what to do (or maybe not) when you encounter your first > vegemite sandwich. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Yowie mlbriggs - 20 Jan 2005 01:23 GMT > This boy is training up to be a great Australian. > IMHO. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> >> Yowie He surely is a cute kid! MLB
Tanada - 20 Jan 2005 02:47 GMT > He surely is a cute kid! MLB He's not just cute, he's adorable, just like his momma and daddy.
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Sherry - 20 Jan 2005 15:36 GMT >He's not just cute, he's adorable, just like his momma and daddy. > >Pam S. He looks like them both to me. I used to think he was a perfect mini-Joel. He is so precious. I have grandchild fever now.
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Karen - 20 Jan 2005 17:58 GMT > >He's not just cute, he's adorable, just like his momma and daddy. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Sherry Yeah, but I can sure see Yowie now. Especially around the eyes.
Yowie - 20 Jan 2005 22:29 GMT > > >He's not just cute, he's adorable, just like his momma and daddy. > > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Yeah, but I can sure see Yowie now. Especially around the eyes. The Yowlet has my mouth and eyes. He will probably have my hair colour and wavy-ness. The rest seems to be 100% Joel, it smost noticable with his hands and feet - they are exactly like Joel's and exactly like Joel's mother's hands and feet too..
Yowie
SUQKRT - 21 Jan 2005 18:45 GMT >http://au.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/yowie9644/detail?.dir=ec62&.dnm=97a6.jpg&.s >rc=ph [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Yowie He's a real cutie, but the look of the vegimite kind of queased me out. I have a new great nephew btw. Suz Macmoosette =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^=
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Tanada - 21 Jan 2005 22:55 GMT > He's a real cutie, but the look of the vegimite kind of queased me out. I have > a new great nephew btw. > Suz You're right, the Yowlet, otherwise known as Cary, is totally adorable. A great nephew? Why didn't you say so before? Are you as modest as another very proud great aunt that lurks in here and posts upon occasion? ;-)
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