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Duke of Url - 14 Jan 2005 22:32 GMT
I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda bought a
Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out my motherboard.
--
Moses
Matt Osborn - 14 Jan 2005 23:38 GMT
>I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda bought a
>Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out my motherboard.

BIOS updates are always dangerous.  Some board manufactures (Intel is
one) offer two ways to upgrade. One is used normally and the other is
used when the first has failed.  The second method is usually provided
on (or you copy to a diskette) and then boot the computer with the
diskette inserted in the drive.  The BIOS itself has enough hard wired
intelligence (it doesn't get wiped out by the upgrade) to read the
diskette and perform the upgrade again.

It's worth a shot.  Check HP's upgrade page and see if they support
the second method.
Jo Firey - 15 Jan 2005 00:25 GMT
Welcome home.

Jo
> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda bought a
> Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out my motherboard.
> --
> Moses
Karen Chuplis - 15 Jan 2005 00:48 GMT
> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda bought a
> Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out my motherboard.
> --
> Moses

Welcome back from the land of Packard-Hell!
The Roach - 15 Jan 2005 07:11 GMT
Begin  by imagining that kchuplis@alltel.net might have said...

> > I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda bought
> > a Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out my
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> >
> Welcome back from the land of Packard-Hell!

???

Packard Bell, who nowadays mostly go under the name of NEC, were always
a completely different company than HP / Compaq.

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Arthur Hagen - 15 Jan 2005 01:09 GMT
> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda
> bought a Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out
> my motherboard.

Decent motherboards have a second BIOS chip that you can jumper to if a BIOS
upgrade fails.  Not so with HP Pavilion PCs, I take it.

Next time, build your own PC.  You don't end up paying for stuff you don't
want or need, get quality components, and have fun in the process.

Regards,
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Bill Stock - 15 Jan 2005 01:36 GMT
>> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda
>> bought a Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Regards,

I think the dual BIOS feature is fairly new. It was added for the Geek, who
has a greater chance of  F*cking up their machine. It's likely saved them a
bundle on MB returns. I doubt too many corporate boxes have the dual BIOS
(cost), but I've been out of that end for a while.

I've built my own machines for the last ten years or so, definitely not for
everyone. It's a little like customizing your car, not worth the $$$$, but a
lot of fun. My last two boxes have been water cooled.

I also managed to screw up my BIOS chip once, while doing a CPU upgrade.
Fortunately I had two machines with an identical configuration, so I hot
swapped (not recommended) the BIOS chip after boot.
zzbunker@netscape.net - 15 Jan 2005 22:15 GMT
> >> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda
> >> bought a Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> I think the dual BIOS feature is fairly new. It was added for the Geek, who
> has a greater chance of  F*cking up their machine.

Dual BIOS, Triple BIOS, Quandruple BIOS,
Quintiple BIOS are extremely old (circa 1920).

We just never told the military, their
cost-minus implementers at IBM,
and their Feurers at IEEE about them.

Since IEEE is the AT&T of Computers.

AT&T works iff it's a sunny Saturday afternoon on a golf course.
And IEEE and BIOS works iff Oprah Winfrey is at the
helm in New Jersey.
peachy ashie passion - 15 Jan 2005 01:52 GMT
> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda bought a
> Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out my motherboard.
> --
> Moses

  Welcome back.

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Seanette Blaylock - 15 Jan 2005 02:04 GMT
"Duke of Url" <MacBenah@kdsi.net> had some very interesting things to
say about got my 'puter back:

>I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda bought a
>Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out my motherboard.

I hate when that happens.

Glad you got it fixed.

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Tanada - 15 Jan 2005 03:12 GMT
> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda bought a
> Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out my motherboard.
> --
> Moses

WB Dukie.  I just got a new HP myself.  Good to see you again

Pam S.
Mathew Kagis - 15 Jan 2005 07:17 GMT
> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda bought a
> Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out my motherboard.
> --
> Moses

Moses: not a common name... Did you ever work as an extra on a hollywood
pirate movie that was being filmed in Thailand?
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Lister - 15 Jan 2005 10:54 GMT
La tempo,  Sat, 15 Jan 2005 07:17:34 GMT ,  La loco, alt.fan.pratchett
.  "Mathew Kagis" <winesnob@telus.net> scribis

>> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda bought a
>> Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out my motherboard.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Moses: not a common name... Did you ever work as an extra on a hollywood
>pirate movie that was being filmed in Thailand?

Or indeed did you part the red sea?

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Seanette Blaylock - 15 Jan 2005 20:10 GMT
Lister <fromthenet@blueyonder.co.uk> had some very interesting things
to say about Re: got my 'puter back:

>>> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda bought a
>>> Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out my motherboard.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>pirate movie that was being filmed in Thailand?
>Or indeed did you part the red sea?

I don't think he's *that* old. :-)

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Duke of Url - 16 Jan 2005 07:12 GMT
> Lister <fromthenet@blueyonder.co.uk> had some very interesting things
> to say about Re: got my 'puter back:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> I don't think he's *that* old. :-)

Nope, that was my g-g-granpa, the one with the turrible sense of direction.
Because he turned Left instead of Right, we ended up with the sand instead
of the oil.
jmcquown - 16 Jan 2005 07:31 GMT
>> Lister <fromthenet@blueyonder.co.uk> had some very interesting things
>> to say about Re: got my 'puter back:
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> direction. Because he turned Left instead of Right, we ended up with
> the sand instead of the oil.

I thought you were Scottish?! <G>

Jill
Duke of Url - 16 Jan 2005 09:37 GMT
>>> Lister <fromthenet@blueyonder.co.uk> had some very interesting
>>> things to say about Re: got my 'puter back:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> I thought you were Scottish?! <G>

I am. So? Your question seems to be a non-sequitur.
jmcquown - 16 Jan 2005 09:59 GMT
>>>> Lister <fromthenet@blueyonder.co.uk> had some very interesting
>>>> things to say about Re: got my 'puter back:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>
> I am. So? Your question seems to be a non-sequitur.

I didn't realize there were deserts in Scotland :)

Glad you're back!

Jill (Douglas Brown) McQuown
Duke of Url - 17 Jan 2005 11:26 GMT
>>>>> Lister <fromthenet@blueyonder.co.uk> had some very interesting
>>>>> things to say about Re: got my 'puter back:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I
>>>>>>>> shoulda bought a Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update
>>>>>>>> that blew out my motherboard. --

>>>>>>> Moses: not a common name... Did you ever work as an extra on a
>>>>>>> hollywood pirate movie that was being filmed in Thailand?

>>>>>> Or indeed did you part the red sea?
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> I didn't realize there were deserts in Scotland :)

Heh. Wrong g-g-granpa. OTOH, it would have been nice if my Scottish
precedents had chosen to live where they could claim the North Sea oil...
SUQKRT - 19 Jan 2005 19:35 GMT
>>>>> Lister <fromthenet@blueyonder.co.uk> had some very interesting
>>>>> things to say about Re: got my 'puter back:
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
>Jill (Douglas Brown) McQuown

Texas also had/has oil and sand.
Suz
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Tanada - 17 Jan 2005 02:43 GMT
>>>Lister <fromthenet@blueyonder.co.uk> had some very interesting things
>>>to say about Re: got my 'puter back:
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> I thought you were Scottish?! <G>

See, his ancestor really messed up.

Pam S. <G
Seanette Blaylock - 17 Jan 2005 10:20 GMT
"Duke of Url" <MacBenah@kdsi.net> had some very interesting things to
say about Re: got my 'puter back:

>>>>> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda
>>>>> bought a Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Because he turned Left instead of Right, we ended up with the sand instead
>of the oil.

I figure the reason the children of Israel wandered in the desert for
40 years was that Moses, being male, refused to ask for directions. If
they'd let Miriam handle the navigation, the trip would have taken a
year, tops. :-)

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Duke of Url - 17 Jan 2005 11:27 GMT
> "Duke of Url" <MacBenah@kdsi.net> had some very interesting things to
> say about Re: got my 'puter back:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> they'd let Miriam handle the navigation, the trip would have taken a
> year, tops. :-)

Pffthththbbttt... mutter mutter wimmen drivers grumble
Seanette Blaylock - 17 Jan 2005 12:38 GMT
"Duke of Url" <MacBenah@kdsi.net> had some very interesting things to
say about Re: got my 'puter back:

>>>>>>> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda
>>>>>>> bought a Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>> year, tops. :-)
>Pffthththbbttt... mutter mutter wimmen drivers grumble

At least women ask for directions. Besides, we have lower insurance
rates, so we must not get into as many accidents or get as many
tickets. :-)

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jmcquown - 17 Jan 2005 16:10 GMT
> "Duke of Url" <MacBenah@kdsi.net> had some very interesting things to
> say about Re: got my 'puter back:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> At least women ask for directions.

When on the road with John he has me plot out the course on an Atlas and act
as navigator and chief exit-sign reader :)

When I first reunited with him in March, 2004, I'd found us a nice (cheap!)
little extended stay sort of motel with a kitchen.  I had mapped it out on
Mapquest but we got stuck in this weird loop of an access road.  I kept
urging him to pull into a gas station so we could ask.  We must have made
that loop 3 times before he decided to do just that.  Turns out if he'd
stayed to the right instead of keepin' on going to the left, it was right
around the corner :)

Besides, we have lower insurance
> rates, so we must not get into as many accidents or get as many
> tickets. :-)

Women don't feel the need to impress people with how fast our vehicles will
go :)

Jill
Jo Firey - 17 Jan 2005 17:41 GMT
> Besides, we have lower insurance
>> rates, so we must not get into as many accidents or get as many
>> tickets. :-)

I'm a good driver and avoid accidents, but the only reason I don't get
tickets, is I look like everyones mom or grandma.  Get a few more female
cops out there and I may be in big trouble.

> Women don't feel the need to impress people with how fast our vehicles
> will
> go :)
>
> Jill

We don't?  Somebody forgot to tell me.

And how old do the grandkids have to be before I can admit to drag racing in
my youth.  And being very good at it.

Jo
jmcquown - 17 Jan 2005 18:11 GMT
> I'm a good driver and avoid accidents, but the only reason I don't get
> tickets, is I look like everyones mom or grandma.  Get a few more
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Jo

Old enough to where they ask, "They had cars when you were a kid?" LOL

Jill
Nan - 17 Jan 2005 18:43 GMT
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>And how old do the grandkids have to be before I can admit to drag racing in
>my youth.  And being very good at it.
>
>Jo

You, too?  I had a '60 Rambler convertible that would take just about
anything on the road at that time, including my cousin's Camaro.  

Nan
Jo Firey - 17 Jan 2005 19:03 GMT
> snipped
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Nan

Then you know.  The fastest thing I've ever driven was a 62 Ambassador 385
fourbarrel.  Its a wonder I didn't kill myself.

Jo
Nan - 17 Jan 2005 19:22 GMT
>> snipped
>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>Jo

The Rambler had 3 on the floor, and I had taught myself to speed
shift.  It was one sporty little car.  I almost cried when DH traded
it.  Of course, at that time we had 3 growing kids and another on the
way, and it just wasn't big enough.

I only got picked up once for speeding, and that was some 20 years
later.

Nan
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jan 2005 21:45 GMT
>> Besides, we have lower insurance
>>> rates, so we must not get into as many accidents or get as many tickets.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> tickets, is I look like everyones mom or grandma.  Get a few more female
> cops out there and I may be in big trouble.

Male, female, doesn't matter -- they *always* ticket me.  Have any tips?  I
just refuse to blubber when they pull me over.  Maybe that's my mistake.

>> Women don't feel the need to impress people with how fast our vehicles will
>> go :)
>>
>> Jill
>
> We don't?  Somebody forgot to tell me.

*grin*

I got a Subaru WRX wagon last March.  My first-ever new car.  It's all wheel
drive, stick, and has room for my mountain bike or skis.  Oh, and it flies
like a bat out of hell, too.  Perfect for mountain roads.  And it's bright
blue.  I call her Roxie.

I almost regret getting her, though, instead of the regular Impreza.  I will
never be able to drive her to the limits of her capabilities; she just plain
outperforms me.  And it's depressing to hit highway speed limits in third
gear, or second if I'm feeling feisty.  I always feel like I have to hold
back.

> And how old do the grandkids have to be before I can admit to drag racing in
> my youth.  And being very good at it.

I think that's one of those you either tell well before they get their
licenses, or well after.

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Howard Berkowitz - 18 Jan 2005 04:44 GMT
> >> Besides, we have lower insurance
> >>> rates, so we must not get into as many accidents or get as many
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I
> just refuse to blubber when they pull me over.  Maybe that's my mistake.

I shall offer a tip, or more of a tale, that is only faintly off-color.  
It is a tale of the California Highway Patrol, whose officers tend to be
rather glamorous and almost makes one grateful for the ticket.

In any event, a classic Sweet Young Thing was pulled over, having been
driving at a high rate of speed.

Officer: "Young lady, do you know why I pulled you over?"

S.Y.T.:  "You wanted to sell me a ticket to the State Troopers Ball?"

Officer (angry): "Young lady, STATE TROOPERS DO NOT HAVE BALLS!"

Then the officer got a strange, distant look in his eyes. One could see
his lips move, reviewing what he said.

Without another word, or ticket, he returned to his car and drove away.
Krista - 20 Jan 2005 05:21 GMT
(snippage)

> Male, female, doesn't matter -- they *always* ticket me.  Have any tips?  I
> just refuse to blubber when they pull me over.  Maybe that's my mistake.

I have found being married to the prosecuting attorney a remarkably
effective ticket deterrent.

Seriously, I slowed down many years ago, but back when I was young and
stupid and quite likely to get stopped for speeding in my own driveway
even, I got loads of warnings just from smiling and batting my
eyelashes.  Maybe that works best in the south, though.   :-P
------
Krista
Howard Berkowitz - 20 Jan 2005 07:47 GMT
> (snippage)
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> even, I got loads of warnings just from smiling and batting my
> eyelashes.  Maybe that works best in the south, though.   :-P

Certainly, some things work and some things don't work in the south.
There is a tale of a Ivy League professor driving south for a visiting
scholar position, who was stopped by a Georgia officer.

He came up and said "Ma'am, we don't see people going that fast in these
parts."

Without thinking, in a thoroughgoing Yankee accent, she commented "Not
since General Sherman, anyway."

It is said the officer handcuffed her, drove her three counties away to
wait for the judge, and then left her, after paying her ticket, to find
some way back to her car.
Tanada - 20 Jan 2005 05:56 GMT
> Male, female, doesn't matter -- they *always* ticket me.  Have any tips?  I
> just refuse to blubber when they pull me over.  Maybe that's my mistake.

I haven't been pulled over very often, but when I am, I'm very polite.
It's yes sir and no ma'am, no I didn't realize I was going that fast.
If I'm in the wrong, I'll admit it and never argue with Mr/Ms Policeman.
 Admittedly, Mike and Mandy have gotten me a verbal warning from a
state trooper, by arguing in the back seat.  I suspect he had kids of
his own and knew how upsetting it is to have them bickering while trying
to drive.  Rob got out of a speeding ticket in Georgia (do not get
nailed in Macon Co) by pulling over when he saw the trooper's lights go
on.  The guy who we'd just passed got Rob's ticket.  As we drove by, he
was standing outside his car, waving his arms and arguing with Mr.
Policeman.  He was jumping up and down and pointing at our car, the last
time we saw him.

Pam S. who's kids have gotten her out of most of her tickets
Jo Firey - 20 Jan 2005 16:36 GMT
>> Male, female, doesn't matter -- they *always* ticket me.  Have any tips?
>> I
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Pam S. who's kids have gotten her out of most of her tickets

Charlie got me into the only one I've had written.  Got pulled over for a
"California Stop" on base in Alaska.  MP says, you didn't come to a full
stop.  I says, I'm sorry I thought I did.  Going to add I'll try to be more
careful etc, when Charlie from the passenger seat pipes up "No you didn't"

Served him right.  On base if I got cited he was the one that had to go see
the commander.  Since I was his dependent, he was considered responsible for
anything I did.

Jo
Monique Y. Mudama - 26 Jan 2005 00:52 GMT
>> Male, female, doesn't matter -- they *always* ticket me.  Have any tips?  I
>> just refuse to blubber when they pull me over.  Maybe that's my mistake.
>
> I haven't been pulled over very often, but when I am, I'm very polite.
> It's yes sir and no ma'am, no I didn't realize I was going that fast.
> If I'm in the wrong, I'll admit it and never argue with Mr/Ms Policeman.

I am always super-polite.  It never seems to matter.

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Seanette Blaylock - 18 Jan 2005 02:04 GMT
"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> had some very interesting things
to say about Re: got my 'puter back:

>>>>>>>> Moses: not a common name... Did you ever work as an extra on a
>>>>>>>> hollywood pirate movie that was being filmed in Thailand?
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>When on the road with John he has me plot out the course on an Atlas and act
>as navigator and chief exit-sign reader :)

My DH has me handle checking MapQuest printouts and reading the GPS [I
strongly object to him staring at the GPS while driving]. However, he
will NOT ask another human for directions, be it traffic, where
something is in a store, whatever.

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Bill Stock - 18 Jan 2005 03:22 GMT
> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> had some very interesting things
> to say about Re: got my 'puter back:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> will NOT ask another human for directions, be it traffic, where
> something is in a store, whatever.

Good man.

> :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL
Horvath - 16 Jan 2005 00:21 GMT
>>Moses: not a common name... Did you ever work as an extra on a hollywood
>>pirate movie that was being filmed in Thailand?
>
>Or indeed did you part the red sea?

Did you have a grandma that painted pictures?

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Duke of Url - 16 Jan 2005 07:10 GMT
>> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda
>> bought a Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Moses: not a common name... Did you ever work as an extra on a
> hollywood pirate movie that was being filmed in Thailand?

Nope, but it sounds like something I'd've had fun doing.
The only contact I ever had with pirates was helping kill them in Central
America.
Sam Nash - 16 Jan 2005 00:13 GMT
> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda bought a
> Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out my motherboard.
> --
> Moses
Welcome back, Duke!
Sam
Adam Whyte-Settlar - 16 Jan 2005 11:39 GMT
> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda bought a
> Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out my motherboard.
> --
> Moses

And there was me praying you'd had a car wreck - and I'm not even a
Christian.
A W-S
Madra Dubh - 16 Jan 2005 17:23 GMT
>> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda bought
>> a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> And there was me praying you'd had a car wreck - and I'm not even a
> Christian.

Hummmmm.
So it would appear....................
Adrian - 16 Jan 2005 13:49 GMT
> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda
> bought a Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out
> my motherboard.

Welcome back! You keep disappearing. ;-)
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Michil?n - 16 Jan 2005 19:17 GMT
>> I've been off-line because Hewlett-Packard (I just KNEW I shoulda
>> bought a Chevy, not a Packard!) put out a BIOS update that blew out
>> my motherboard.
>
>Welcome back! You keep disappearing. ;-)

We had problems with the lobotomy. Everything should be okay now that
we've located the "brain".

Michil?n
 
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