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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / January 2005OT: Opinions
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ Has anyone else read this? I realize there are a few exagerations, but pretty scary overall. > http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ > > Has anyone else read this? I realize there are a few exagerations, but > pretty scary overall. Don't care. If its going to happen, it will happen, and there ain't a darn thing I can do about it. Whatever small contributions I make to living more sustainably won't even make a dent. Doesn't stop me trying to live in a more environmentally friendly fashion because its not the reason why I do so, but I won't willingly go back to pre-industrial subsistance farming either. Its sorta like living on a known fault line or on the coast. You know its only a matter of time before a major disaster happens, you know they've happened before, you know they'll happen again, but can't spend your life worrying about it. One day the sun will run out too. I'll worry about it when I need to, not before. Yowie > http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ > > Has anyone else read this? I realize there are a few exagerations, but > pretty scary overall. I just skimmed it. I still feel that when necessity pushes, answers will be found. I had to take exception to the figure that the average hourly wage in the US is slightly less than 20.00 per hour!! I don't know many people making that. > in article 46adnbYnKdMwfnjcRVn-uw@rogers.com, Bill Stock at > Me7@Privacy.net [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > the US is slightly less than 20.00 per hour!! I don't know many people > making that. I think a few of the facts may be exagerated, it's a book after all. But it still has some interesting points. I doubt that the consumer mentality in the West will change in time. If you read down to the end, the author says it's pretty much too late already. The articles on the Natural Gas Cliff are also interesting stuff. Hopefully everyone will do their part, particularly as it relates to your choice of governments. "Karen Chuplis" <kchuplis@alltel.net> wrote in message the average hourly wage in > the US is slightly less than 20.00 per hour!! I don't know many people > making that. Yes well, in a perfect world, that would be the bottom line wage... But when you average out all the minimum wage folk to the CEO's & all the good to lousy paying jobs in between, that's what you get. It frustrates me that people who deal in the same industry as me, are unionized & FAR LESS COMPETENT,. make more than I do.  SignatureMathew Butler to 2 kittens: Chablis & Muscat En Vino Veritas > Yes well, in a perfect world, that would be the bottom line wage... But when > you average out all the minimum wage folk to the CEO's & all the good to > lousy paying jobs in between, that's what you get. > It frustrates me that people who deal in the same industry as me, are > unionized & FAR LESS COMPETENT,. make more than I do. Organize a union in your workplace, and start negotiating. However, union or nonunion, there are always people in a workplace who will earn more than you for doing less, or doing the same thing less well. Unless you are the CEO, of course! There might even be some people who get paid less than you and do more work. This is often the case with support staff vs people with specialized or rare skills. Cheryl > Organize a union in your workplace, and start negotiating. > > However, union or nonunion, there are always people in a workplace who will > earn more than you for doing less, or doing the same thing less well. Unless > you are the CEO, of course! I remember how anti-union members of the software community were during the bubble. I wonder what would happen if you took a poll now. It's also interesting to me how many people (again in the s/w community) believe that they are safe from unemployment because of their value. My husband is 100% sure that if either of us were laid off, we could find another job easily. I'm not so sure. There are a lot of people out there looking for work, and even if I could definitively say I'm better, that doesn't mean my resume will stand out among the bazillions being submitted. And a lot of people would probably be happy to work for less than I'd expect .... > There might even be some people who get paid less than you and do more work. > This is often the case with support staff vs people with specialized or rare > skills. True. Almost anyone can work hard, but not everyone has specialized education, experience, or skills. Of course, if you're too specialized, you can get stuck when the particular skills you have are no longer needed. Signaturemonique, roommate of Oscar the (female) grouch ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Eros was adopted! Eros has a home now! *cheer!* >> Organize a union in your workplace, and start negotiating. >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > resume will stand out among the bazillions being submitted. And a lot of > people would probably be happy to work for less than I'd expect .... You're right. Especially in web programming - there is *NOTHING* to be had job-wise in the states these days. Everything is being "outsourced" to China and India where web programmers will work for 3 - 4 bucks an hour. I have my resume on Monster, Flip Dog, Dice, Houston Jobs, and about 10 other online services. I get email alerts several times a day from all of these, and in the last year I've only seen about 5 or 6 jobs offered and none have even responded to my resume. Hugs, CatNipped >> There might even be some people who get paid less than you and do more >> work. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > you > can get stuck when the particular skills you have are no longer needed. > http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ > > Has anyone else read this? I realize there are a few exagerations, but > pretty scary overall. It is scary, and the info contained there has been pretty obvious for over a decade. But as long as the energy industry basically controls the White House and US energy policy we aren't likely to see any change. Our dependence upon oil and our willingness, even eagerness, to squander fossil fuel resources will result in a massive shock to the world economy. I'm a fine one to talk - I drive a semi and go through 400 gallons of diesel fuel a week, but like many others I'm doing the only thing I can do at this time to keep food on my family's table. I eagerly look forward to taking a job that will allow me to stop squandering fossil fuel resources. Heck, I eagerly look forward to taking a job that lets me see my wife and my kitties every day instead of being out for a month at a time then home for a weekend. Unfortunately the fossil fuel crisis is only one of the crises facing the world. The damage we're doing to the environment is just as scary. The only question is which crisis will bite us on the butt first. The US is unlikely to do anything meaningful to address either of them. Dan > I'm a fine one to talk - I drive a semi and go through 400 gallons of diesel > fuel a week, but like many others I'm doing the only thing I can do at this [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > every day instead of being out for a month at a time then home for a > weekend. As large-stuff-transport goes, isn't a semi fairly efficient? I don't know what kinds of stuff you haul, but it seems like the best way to transport a lot of stuff. I've always loved driving and have thought it might be fun to drive a truck for a while, except that my knee problems make driving more than an hour too painful to manage =/ And honestly, I'm way too set in my ways to enjoy a different place every day for long. It's just one of those silly daydreams ... Signaturemonique, roommate of Oscar the (female) grouch ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Eros was adopted! Eros has a home now! *cheer!* > As large-stuff-transport goes, isn't a semi fairly efficient? I don't know > what kinds of stuff you haul, but it seems like the best way to transport a > lot of stuff. Strictly from a freight-mile per gallon, a semi is incredibly efficient. I get close to 7 miles per gallon, and when I'm fully laden I carry a little over 45000 pounds of freight. But when I'm hauling 45000 pounds of Gatorade or bottom-of-the-line kids clothing it makes me wonder about the value to society of the load I'm carrying :) > I've always loved driving and have thought it might be fun to drive a truck > for a while, except that my knee problems make driving more than an hour too > painful to manage =/ And honestly, I'm way too set in my ways to enjoy a > different place every day for long. It's just one of those silly daydreams > ... It odes hold it's attractions. But I've reached the point that I would REALLY, REALLY prefer to be able to get home to Nancy and the furkids every day. > > As large-stuff-transport goes, isn't a semi fairly efficient? I don't > > know [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > REALLY, REALLY prefer to be able to get home to Nancy and the furkids > every day. I suspect almost any kind of business travel may seem attractive, until you do it for a while. Let me share the day I realized I was traveling too much. Awakening, I looked around the room. Clearly, I was in a Marriott. But where? I looked at the phone, which just had an unfamiliar area code. I didn't feel like searching for letterhead. So, I picked up the phone and called the operator. "Marriott Milwaukee Downtown. May I help you?" "Thank you, you just did." I wonder if she got many calls like that? |
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