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(OT) Jumping Into the Void (Quitting Smoking)
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Ginger-lyn Summer - 12 Jan 2005 19:20 GMT Gulp.
Here I go.
Tomorrow, I am quitting smoking. And because I am posting it here for all of you to see, I *have* to do it!
I have figured out what I am going to do when those urges hit: I went out and bought a sign language dictionary, and I am going to teach myself sign language. Should keep my hands busy, and teach me something valuable, and open up my world to other people, all at the same time!
Today, I am going to gather up all the ashtrays and wash them, and gather up all other smoking accoutrements and put them in a box where I can't see them, upstairs in the Kitty Rescue Room (which no kitty can be in right now, since it's such a mess, with soggy items and other things), so DH (who's a smoker) can still do his thing, since it's his choice. But they will be away from me, and I will have 95% of the household smokefree.
I read the insert in the box of patches last night, and will read it again today (it comes with a CD, too, which includes relaxing music -- heh). When I get up tomorrow, I will reach for a patch instead of a cigarette.
I'm skeeeeerrreeeed! (translation: scared)
Big leap for me!
But here goes . . . .
Ginger-lyn
Monique Y. Mudama - 12 Jan 2005 19:25 GMT > Gulp. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > of you to see, I *have* to do it! > I'm skeeeeerrreeeed! (translation: scared) [snip]
> Big leap for me! > > But here goes . . . . > > Ginger-lyn I wish you the best of luck! I'm sure you can do it, but I'm also sure it will be tough.
It's a different situation, but when I quit playing the computer game that dominated my life for so long, I found that my biggest problem was what to do with all this free time. I started singing lessons (I've always hated my voice, and so have other people!), bought a bass guitar, got back into martial arts ... basically filled up my schedule so that I would always have something to do. It's different, but there are similarities in that there are physical habits that you somehow need to break.
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Julie Cook - 12 Jan 2005 19:38 GMT Good luck Ginger-lyn!! I have a suggestion, which I've used in the past, although I haven't managed to quit smoking. When you go to bed tonight reach for a patch so that the patch has kicked in before you wake up and want that first morning cigarette.
The kitties and I are pulling for you with lots of purrs and best wishes.
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> Gulp. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Ginger-lyn Monique Y. Mudama - 12 Jan 2005 19:39 GMT > Good luck Ginger-lyn!! I have a suggestion, which I've used in the past, > although I haven't managed to quit smoking. When you go to bed tonight reach [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Julie, Hobbes, Selena, Lacey and Sam Since the patch has nicotine, won't it keep you awake if you use it at night?
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Julie Cook - 12 Jan 2005 20:17 GMT >>Good luck Ginger-lyn!! I have a suggestion, which I've used in the past, >>although I haven't managed to quit smoking. When you go to bed tonight reach [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Since the patch has nicotine, won't it keep you awake if you use it at night? Not that I noticed, although I smoke right up to bedtime so I'm used to having nicotine in my system.
Julie
Jean Hobbs - 13 Jan 2005 09:07 GMT Yeah I did too, I would try to get in as many as I could before getting into bed. I wasn't going to post tonight after hearing about David. So very sad. And sudden. But I read Ginger-Lyn's letter and thought she needed all the support she could get,so had to add mine. Jean.P.
> >>Good luck Ginger-lyn!! I have a suggestion, which I've used in the past, > >>although I haven't managed to quit smoking. When you go to bed tonight reach [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Julie CATherine - 13 Jan 2005 04:45 GMT >> Good luck Ginger-lyn!! I have a suggestion, which I've used in the past, >> although I haven't managed to quit smoking. When you go to bed tonight reach [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Since the patch has nicotine, won't it keep you awake if you use it at night? Nicotine is a downer. It calms a person down. it is caffeine that keeps you awake. In coffee, tea, etc. But not the caffeine is chocolate. That is exempt! ;-D
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Monique Y. Mudama - 13 Jan 2005 20:09 GMT >>> Good luck Ginger-lyn!! I have a suggestion, which I've used in the past, >>> although I haven't managed to quit smoking. When you go to bed tonight [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > awake. In coffee, tea, etc. But not the caffeine is chocolate. That is > exempt! ;-D News to me:
http://psychology.unn.ac.uk/mark/PY116/HPnicotine/HPNICOTINE.htm
I'm pretty sure that I've always seen nicotine described as a stimulant.
In the article on insomnia I posted recently, the comparative amounts of caffeine in chocolate vs. coffee were described ... and it looks like you're right; the caffeine in chocolate is pretty insignifant.
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Cheryl - 13 Jan 2005 00:50 GMT > Good luck Ginger-lyn!! I have a suggestion, which I've used in > the past, although I haven't managed to quit smoking. When you > go to bed tonight reach for a patch so that the patch has kicked > in before you wake up and want that first morning cigarette. This reminded me of my brothers quitting smoking story. One day after he'd gotten to the point of waiting to put a patch on until the urge hit him to smoke, he realized he forgot to bring any patches to work with him. He kept some in the car at all times after that.
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Victor Martinez - 12 Jan 2005 19:53 GMT > I'm skeeeeerrreeeed! (translation: scared) I'll be sending quitting purrs your way. I've done it, I know you can too!
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Jeanne Hedge - 12 Jan 2005 19:55 GMT Congratulations on your decision, Ginger-Lyn, and best of luck in seeing it though! Remember, when you want to smoke, go hug a kitty instead! :)
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Kreisleriana - 12 Jan 2005 21:26 GMT >Gulp. > >Here I go. > >Tomorrow, I am quitting smoking. And because I am posting it here for >all of you to see, I *have* to do it! Best of luck! Powerful, comforting purrs for your ordeal.
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Bev - 12 Jan 2005 22:24 GMT > >Gulp. > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh > My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Good luck with this. DH gave up the weed in June before we went to Alaska. He knew there was no smoking on the plane and in a lot of places in the US. For some reason 'not smoking' affected his tum, he had a lot of acid and was sometimes sick. However everyone is affected differently. I have never smoked so he doesn't have to put up with second hand smoke. It is now seven months, is still 'clean', tum has recovered, and he feels better.
Bev
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Monique Y. Mudama - 12 Jan 2005 22:34 GMT > Good luck with this. DH gave up the weed in June before we went to Alaska. > He knew there was no smoking on the plane and in a lot of places in the US. > For some reason 'not smoking' affected his tum, he had a lot of acid and was > sometimes sick. However everyone is affected differently. I have never > smoked so he doesn't have to put up with second hand smoke. It is now > seven months, is still 'clean', tum has recovered, and he feels better. My mom gets, well, there's no other way to say it, she gets constipated when she tries to quit smoking. It's really bad for her. Then, even if she's successful in quitting, she starts it up again if she's stressed (and she's a very nervous person) or when smoker friends visit (and she's a very social person). *sigh*
My dad quit many years ago, cold turkey. I hear it's often easier for men than for women. I'd been on a campaign to get my parents to quit since I was tiny, and at one point my dad told me he decided to quit because he thought I'd given up my campaign, and it was pretty sad to see a daughter give up on her father. Still, years later, he would sometimes dream about smoking a cigarette. I don't know if he still does.
Cigarettes are evil!
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Seanette Blaylock - 12 Jan 2005 22:52 GMT "Monique Y. Mudama" <spam@bounceswoosh.org> had some very interesting things to say about Re: (OT) Jumping Into the Void (Quitting Smoking):
>My mom gets, well, there's no other way to say it, she gets constipated when >she tries to quit smoking. It's really bad for her. Then, even if she's >successful in quitting, she starts it up again if she's stressed (and she's a >very nervous person) or when smoker friends visit (and she's a very social >person). *sigh* See http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_372.html for info on this.
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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Monique Y. Mudama - 12 Jan 2005 23:05 GMT > "Monique Y. Mudama" <spam@bounceswoosh.org> had some very interesting things > to say about Re: (OT) Jumping Into the Void (Quitting Smoking): [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > See http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_372.html for info on this. >:-) Wow.
I stand by my earlier remark. Cigarettes. Nasty things.
I'm not sure that I'm actually allergic to cigarettes, but even the slightest whiff makes my stomach upset. The amazing thing to me is walking out of a ski lodge at 10K feet or higher and having someone light up in front of me. Me, I need all the oxygen I can get at altitude! I feel like that person is actually stealing my breath.
Fortunately, I live in Longmont and work in Boulder, and both now have laws against smoking in public buildings. That's right, no smoking in restaurants, bars, or even concert venues. I'm sure it irritates the smokers, but it's a huge relief to me. I've actually avoided certain events just to avoid the smoke.
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Jean Hobbs - 13 Jan 2005 09:18 GMT I can believe that Monique, I sometimes feel I would love a smoke, thats why I *still* have three ciggy's in a case after all this time because I knew if I got desperate I would go up and buy a pkt, but if I had some i'd just tell myself I could have one later if the desire didn't wear off, it always did, so I still have those three nasty things Jean.P.
> > Good luck with this. DH gave up the weed in June before we went to Alaska. > > He knew there was no smoking on the plane and in a lot of places in the US. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Eros was adopted! Eros has a home now! *cheer!* Marina - 13 Jan 2005 09:23 GMT > My dad quit many years ago, cold turkey. I hear it's often easier for men > than for women. I'd been on a campaign to get my parents to quit since I was > tiny, and at one point my dad told me he decided to quit because he thought > I'd given up my campaign, and it was pretty sad to see a daughter give up on > her father. Still, years later, he would sometimes dream about smoking a > cigarette. I don't know if he still does. I still have those dreams, 10+ years after I quit. Then I wake up angry at myself for lapsing. I don't think that will ever go away. I believe smoking is the same as alcoholism - no matter how long you're on the wagon, you'll always be an alcoholic. Once a smoker, always a smoker. I can't stand the smell of cigarettes any more, but I know that if I ever had a brain fart and lit up, I would be back to smoking two packs a day very quickly.
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Tanada - 13 Jan 2005 09:43 GMT > I still have those dreams, 10+ years after I quit. Then I wake up angry > at myself for lapsing. I don't think that will ever go away. I believe [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > had a brain fart and lit up, I would be back to smoking two packs a day > very quickly. I still have them too, Marina, though I haven't quit for as long as you have. I've been angry at myself for not getting over the desires to light up, every so often. It's nice to know that I'm not the only one who does this.
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Victor Martinez - 13 Jan 2005 14:07 GMT > at myself for lapsing. I don't think that will ever go away. I believe > smoking is the same as alcoholism - no matter how long you're on the > wagon, you'll always be an alcoholic. Once a smoker, always a smoker. I I'm not sure that is the case for everybody. I quit smoking years ago, but sometimes I will have a cigarrete or two. It's a rare thing, once or twice a year, usually when I'm socializing with friends who smoke (very few of those left). Last time was during my trip to Mexico, we had a reunion of high school friends and I smoked a lot! I woke up so sick the next morning, I promised not to smoke ever again... ;-)
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Monique Y. Mudama - 13 Jan 2005 14:53 GMT >> at myself for lapsing. I don't think that will ever go away. I believe >> smoking is the same as alcoholism - no matter how long you're on the wagon, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > school friends and I smoked a lot! I woke up so sick the next morning, I > promised not to smoke ever again... ;-) Just like a lot of people can drink alcohol without losing control. But some can't. I tend to believe we all have our own personal demons. Some lucky folks never find out what theirs are =)
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Marina - 13 Jan 2005 19:42 GMT > I'm not sure that is the case for everybody. I quit smoking years ago, > but sometimes I will have a cigarrete or two. It's a rare thing, once or > twice a year, usually when I'm socializing with friends who smoke (very > few of those left). Last time was during my trip to Mexico, we had a > reunion of high school friends and I smoked a lot! I woke up so sick the > next morning, I promised not to smoke ever again... ;-) LOL! Well, naturally, I can only speak for myself, but I know I couldn't just smoke one or two.
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polonca12000 - 12 Jan 2005 22:13 GMT I'm so happy for you, Ginger-lyn, that's wonderful! You can do it! And what a great idea, to learn sign language! Lots of best wishes, purrs and hugs for you,
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> Gulp. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > something valuable, and open up my world to other people, all at the > same time! <snip
Yowie - 12 Jan 2005 22:59 GMT Way to go Ginger-Lyn. Purring up a storm and sending lots of "be strong" vibes. You can do it!!!!!
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> Gulp. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Ginger-lyn Lisa Katt - 12 Jan 2005 23:40 GMT Good luck purrs, Ginger-lyn! Elisabet and Hugo Katt
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>Gulp. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >Ginger-lyn jmcquown - 12 Jan 2005 23:44 GMT > Gulp. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Ginger-lyn IIRC you did it before, you can do it again :) The sign language is a good idea (useful, too!). Try snacking on sunflower seeds when you need that hand-to-mouth thing (if they don't disagree with your dietary needs in any way). And, as someone else suggested, when the urge hits, hug a cat!
Good luck purrs headed that way.
Jill
Stormin Mormon - 13 Jan 2005 00:29 GMT Good luck. Both my parents used to smoke. And so did my one sister. I was allergic to the smoke, so I never had the urge to try one up close.
Let us know how things work out. I know there is at least one other ex-smoker on the list (Baha). And I really respect anyone who can kick the habit.
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Gulp.
Here I go.
Tomorrow, I am quitting smoking. And because I am posting it here for all of you to see, I *have* to do it!
I have figured out what I am going to do when those urges hit: I went out and bought a sign language dictionary, and I am going to teach myself sign language. Should keep my hands busy, and teach me something valuable, and open up my world to other people, all at the same time!
Today, I am going to gather up all the ashtrays and wash them, and gather up all other smoking accoutrements and put them in a box where I can't see them, upstairs in the Kitty Rescue Room (which no kitty can be in right now, since it's such a mess, with soggy items and other things), so DH (who's a smoker) can still do his thing, since it's his choice. But they will be away from me, and I will have 95% of the household smokefree.
I read the insert in the box of patches last night, and will read it again today (it comes with a CD, too, which includes relaxing music -- heh). When I get up tomorrow, I will reach for a patch instead of a cigarette.
I'm skeeeeerrreeeed! (translation: scared)
Big leap for me!
But here goes . . . .
Ginger-lyn
Cheryl - 13 Jan 2005 00:47 GMT On Wed 12 Jan 2005 02:20:15p, Ginger-lyn Summer wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes (news:41e5774d.4061153 @news.west.earthlink.net):
> I'm skeeeeerrreeeed! (translation: scared) > > Big leap for me! > > But here goes . . . . Best wishes and good luck! Just remember, others have done it and lived. ;)
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Christina Websell - 13 Jan 2005 00:59 GMT Good luck with it, Ginger-lyn
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> Gulp. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Ginger-lyn Elise - 13 Jan 2005 01:02 GMT > Gulp. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Ginger-lyn Congratulations! The sign language idea sounds like a great answer to "what do I do whith my hands?" Purring for your success {{{Ginger-lyn}}}
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Lucy's Mom - 13 Jan 2005 01:56 GMT Good for you, Ginger-lyn!!!! You can do it!!! If my sister and mother can, I'm sure you can too. --Kim
>Gulp. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >Ginger-lyn CATherine - 13 Jan 2005 03:45 GMT >Gulp. > >Here I go. > >Tomorrow, I am quitting smoking. And because I am posting it here for >all of you to see, I *have* to do it! Good for you. I hope you do better than I did. But I quit cold turkey for over a month. Then the stress started to get to me. Pretty soon it was like "one won't hurt me" and then as the stress got worse, so did the smoking. But at least I am only doing half as much as I used to do. Perhaps I should try the patches. I sure hope it works for you. And keeping your hands busy is the key. Purrs and prayers for success.
-- CATherine
Jean Hobbs - 13 Jan 2005 09:25 GMT I went cold turkey too your right itisn't easy , my son -law said 'maybe you could just do 10 a day' but like you said, I knew the 10 would gradually build up into heavy smoking again, I've never touched one since I gave up well not with my lips anyway. Jean.P.
> >Gulp. > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > -- > CATherine jmcquown - 13 Jan 2005 09:55 GMT >> Gulp. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > do. Perhaps I should try the patches. I sure hope it works for you. > And keeping your hands busy is the key. Purrs and prayers for success. I worked with a woman who went 3 months without a cig, then one day major stress just got to her. I was in the designated smoking area and she came up and reached for my pack. I opened my mouth and she said, "Jill, you try to take this away from me and you'll draw back a nub." She was deadly serious.
Jill
CATherine - 15 Jan 2005 01:44 GMT >>> Gulp. >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Jill I understand that woman completely. Although I am not the aggressive type. I would just break down and cry and beg.
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Krista - 13 Jan 2005 07:06 GMT Good luck - we're purring for you! ------ Krista
Marina - 13 Jan 2005 08:05 GMT > Gulp. > > Here I go. Sending "way to go" purrs your way, Ginger-lyn. If I could do it, you can (10 years, 10 months and 6 days now!).
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Jean Hobbs - 13 Jan 2005 09:01 GMT Dont be scared Ginger-Lyn, its almost 6 years since I gave it away, and I felt the benefits almost immediately, I didn't cough when my head hit the pillow, I didn't wheeze, I didn't cough most of the day away, and I didn't put weight on, thecellulitus did that for me, when, I got that, the Dr's put me back on insulin, which is well known for putting weight on you.I'm scared now because I started a new diet today and I MUSTstay on it this time, I always eat low fat everything, butI have to do more than that as I am unable to excersize because of other problems. so walk tall and never fear you'll do it, if I did it anyone can hugs and purrs to help you along Jean.P.
> Gulp. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Ginger-lyn Tanada - 13 Jan 2005 09:14 GMT > Gulp. > > Here I go. > > Tomorrow, I am quitting smoking. And because I am posting it here for > all of you to see, I *have* to do it! You can do it, Ginger-Lyn. We're all rooting for you to make it.
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Christine Burel - 13 Jan 2005 14:03 GMT You go girl! Right behind you if you need moral support -- full-power purrs to help you with this! Christine
> Gulp. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Ginger-lyn jhill - 13 Jan 2005 23:08 GMT Best of luck to you. I wish I could transfer to all smokers the sadness in my life as a teenager standing in the hospital watching my father(who did 2 packs a day) die slowly and painfully from lung and liver cancer. Sure cured me of any thoughts of smoking!
> Gulp. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Ginger-lyn Exocat - 14 Jan 2005 07:47 GMT Resolve-strengthening purrs from here in Cornwall
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> Gulp. > > Here I go. > > Tomorrow, I am quitting smoking. And because I am posting it here for > all of you to see, I *have* to do it! Adrian - 14 Jan 2005 12:57 GMT > Gulp. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Ginger-lyn I wish you the very best of luck. I quit just over three years ago, and it was difficult. I smoked heavily for over thirty years, the last few years I was smoking between 60 and 80 per day, occasionaly 100 in one day. If I could quit, anybody can. Purrs you find the strength to resist the inevitable craving, your cats will thank you. I used the nicotine lozenges when I succeded, I don't think I could have done it without something to do with my mouth.
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O J - 14 Jan 2005 22:57 GMT >> Gulp. >> >> Here I go. ---------------------<snip>----------------------
>> I'm skeeeeerrreeeed! (translation: scared) >> >> Big leap for me! >> >> But here goes . . . . ---------------------<snip>----------------------
> I used the nicotine >lozenges when I succeded, I don't think I could have done it without >something to do with my mouth. I went through more bubble gum than a whole classroom full of ten year old kids. It's been over fifteen years though.
Good luck Ginger-lyn! You'll probably feel for a month that the world owes it to you to put up with your bitchy attitude, both DH and I both went through that. Don't worry, that feeling passes. Again, good luck!
Regards and Purrs, O J
Tanada - 15 Jan 2005 02:47 GMT > Good luck Ginger-lyn! You'll probably feel for a month that the world > owes it to you to put up with your bitchy attitude, both DH and I both [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Regards and Purrs, > O J Shhhhh, don't tell Rob and the kids that. I've got them still believing that my nastiness is the result of quitting cigarettes. Don't rat me out.
Pam S.
Duke of Url - 16 Jan 2005 07:27 GMT >>> Gulp. >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > went through that. Don't worry, that feeling passes. Again, good > luck! Don't bother wasting your money on any of the gadgets/patches/pills, just throw away your coffin-nails and don't buy any more. Everyone who's ever been in jail can tell you - they really miss smoking for 3 or 4 days, then the desire fades away.
Stormin Mormon - 17 Jan 2005 16:36 GMT I'm mildly surprised Baha hasn't lent her wisdom on the matter,.
I did hear from her today, computer problems.
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Ginger-lyn Summer wrote:
> Gulp. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Ginger-lyn I wish you the very best of luck. I quit just over three years ago, and it was difficult. I smoked heavily for over thirty years, the last few years I was smoking between 60 and 80 per day, occasionaly 100 in one day. If I could quit, anybody can. Purrs you find the strength to resist the inevitable craving, your cats will thank you. I used the nicotine lozenges when I succeded, I don't think I could have done it without something to do with my mouth.
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Justin L - 22 Jan 2005 05:45 GMT Hi,
I have been smoke free for 3 weeks now, and it gets easier each day you go without. The big trick is finding something else to do when you are triggered to smoke. I would stay away from the patches, you are still hooked on the nicotine. What really helped me to quit was "smoke-away", and I didn't even have to or want to finish all of the pills. All it really does is clean you out faster I think, you really have to be mentally prepared to get through it. Today is the first day I went through without having a very bad craving or thinking about smoking, and I just realized it now when I read this post :)
Good luck, and stick to it!
Justin
Tanada - 22 Jan 2005 07:42 GMT > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Justin Congrats. You're getting there.
Not everyone has the will power that you do, Justin. For me, those patches were a way to wean me off the cravings for cigs. If you're not serious about quitting, they won't help you a bit.
Pam S.
Howard Berkowitz - 22 Jan 2005 19:11 GMT > > Hi, > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > patches were a way to wean me off the cravings for cigs. If you're not > serious about quitting, they won't help you a bit. Nicotine addiction is quite hard to break, but there are two things that have found to be helpful in well-done studies: nicotine patches, and the drug bupropion. Either one is good; using them together is better.
It's worth explaining why I deliberately used the generic name bupropion. There are two branded names for the same drug in the same factory, Wellbutrin (antidepressant) and Zyban (nicotine withdrawal). Wellbutrin now has a generic version, but Zuban, even though it is exactly the same, still has patent protection because it's for a different purpose. Generic bupropion will work exactly the same as the more expensive branded Zyban.
There are other drugs that can help, such as clonidine, but they don't have formal approval.
As a stray observation, there was a report not long ago about some poor soul who tried to commit suicide with nicotine patches. While a drop of pure nicotine on the skin will kill very quickly, there really isn't that much in a single patch or cigarette. The ER staff described the patient as looking like a nauseated and miserable patchwork quilt.
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