I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
Congestive Heart Failure, his lungs had almost filled completely with
fluid, on top of that he had a kidney infection that was probably
septic, and the stress of all of it caused him to have a heart attack.
In the meantime, he has developed pneumonia on each lung - one
responding to antibiotics, the other not.
But what is the hard part is to keep his blood pressure up they put him
on a Dopamine drip. It is considered to be a form of life support since
they didn't know if they would ever be able to take him off of it. They
hoped it would give his body those precious few days to heal and be
able to take care of its own blood pressure. But it is not to be and
they are going to take it away in two days. Actually, since it is life
support, they are going to ask me to take it away.
The perverse thing about this life support is that with it, my father is
awake, alert, oriented, thinking clearly and is able to enjoy the time
he has. He is comfortable, in no pain - even without his pain meds and
in good spirits. If it weren't for the fact that the dopamine drip has
other consequences on the body - like increases his risk for another
heart attack, and they can't treat any of his other illnessess, like the
heart attack or give him lasix because they all drop his blood pressure,
I would want him on it indefinitely. It also has other side effects
that would start that I don't want him to go through.
The bottom line is that I am going to be pulling life support on my Dad
who is still functioning. It isn't like he is hooked up to a machine.
That would be easy. I talked to my father about it tonight. No one had
told him. He is ready to go. We had a priest come in and do last
rights, so it doesn't matter if he has a heart attack tonight.
I went to the nursing home to pick up a couple of things he wanted and
the nurses all wanted to know how he was doing. I cried my way all the
way through those explanations and they cried with me.
I have a friend who is willing to come stay with me after they take my
Dad off the Dopamine drip until he dies, even to taking time off work.
She is very comforting and I intend to take her up on it. I don't want
to go through this alone.
I've got to find a home for my Dad's cat now. He has someone picked out
so I have to ask her if she will because he wants to know before he
dies. That is his only unfinished business as far as he is concerned.
I guess I just managed to make this on topic. If she doesn't want his
cat, then I have a couple of ideas. But we will have to see.
Thanks for reading all the way to the bottom for those of you who did.
Bridet
Jeanette - 10 Jan 2005 10:02 GMT
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> Thanks for reading all the way to the bottom for those of you who did.
>
> Bridet
Of course I did hon. My thoughts are with you and your dad, and with the
wonderful friend who is helping you through this.
Jeanette
Tish Silberbauer - 10 Jan 2005 10:17 GMT
I don't have words to express how sad I feel for you. A heart-rending
decision. My prayers are with you and your Dad and our kits are
purring their best.
We'll be thinking of you and your Dad.
Hugs,
Tish
>I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
>Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
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>In the meantime, he has developed pneumonia on each lung - one
>responding to antibiotics, the other not.
Helen Miles - 10 Jan 2005 10:27 GMT
> I went to the nursing home to pick up a couple of things he wanted and
> the nurses all wanted to know how he was doing. I cried my way all the
> way through those explanations and they cried with me.///
And I'm crying with you now from the other side of the atlantic.
{{{{HUGS}}}}
You and your dad are both in our thoughts and prayers, and will be
staying there.
Helen M
O J - 10 Jan 2005 12:27 GMT
---------------------<snip>----------------------
>I've got to find a home for my Dad's cat now. He has someone picked out
>so I have to ask her if she will because he wants to know before he
>dies. That is his only unfinished business as far as he is concerned.
---------------------<snip>----------------------
This sounds like one of the attributes of a remarkable man. I hope
when my time comes that I am gifted with the acceptance of my fate and
am able to show the concern for a little life that depended on me as
your father's cat depended on him. Please accept my deepest
condolences.
Regards and Purrs,
O J
Karen Chuplis - 10 Jan 2005 12:30 GMT
Oh Bridget, my heart goes out to you. I'm so sorry. I will send prayers of
support.
Kathryn - 10 Jan 2005 13:14 GMT
> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
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>
> Bridet
So sorry to hear this news.. purrs and prayers with you during this
difficult time.
Kathryn
Mogget - 10 Jan 2005 13:26 GMT
>I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
>Dad is dying.
All the hugs in the world for this unspeakably awful time.

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Victor Martinez - 10 Jan 2005 13:31 GMT
> Thanks for reading all the way to the bottom for those of you who did.
Bridget, we're sending lots of purrs for you and for your entire family.
What a tough job you've been given!
Hang in there.

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Christine Burel - 10 Jan 2005 13:44 GMT
Bridget, I am terribly sad to read this; I can't think of anything harder to
do than what you are facing right now. My heart and prayers are with you
and of course, you have all the purrs we can offer.
Please know our thoughts are with you.
love,
Christine
> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
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>
> Bridet
JBHajos - 10 Jan 2005 14:14 GMT
>I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
>Dad is dying. (snip)
>The bottom line is that I am going to be pulling life support on my Dad
Oh, God, what a terrible, heartbreaking time for you, Bridget. You
have been a wonderful daughter to him. I remember when you brought
him home from a bad situation and have spent these years caring for
him in every way possible. I grieve with you.
> I don't want to go through this alone.
I'm glad you have such a dear friend to help you through this.
Remember, too, that you'll have hundreds of RPCA cyber friends who are
with you in spirit. My prayers are with you and your dad. Hugs.
Jeanne
jmcquown - 10 Jan 2005 14:16 GMT
Bridget,
Oh how very sad! Purrs for you and for your father. I cannot imagine what
you are going through.
Jill
> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
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>
> Bridet
Pat - 10 Jan 2005 14:57 GMT
Wow. You have my sympathy.
Dan M - 10 Jan 2005 15:00 GMT
> Thanks for reading all the way to the bottom for those of you who did.
>
> Bridet
Oh, Bridget, I can't even imagine what that must be like. I am *so* very
sorry. You and your dad have our purrs. I just wish we could do more.
Dan
Jeanne Hedge - 10 Jan 2005 15:07 GMT
What a terrible situation. Purrs for you, your father, his cat, and
your family. And also for your supportive friend - not everyone is
blessed with that kind of friend.
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Irulan - 10 Jan 2005 15:18 GMT
Bridget, we are praying for all of you through all of this.
Lydia

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>I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my Dad
>is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe Congestive
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>
> Bridet
Kreisleriana - 10 Jan 2005 15:40 GMT
Oh my. What to say about this-- words are so inadequate. We wish you
and your family the best possible remaining time, and peace and
comfort.
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Bob M - 10 Jan 2005 17:10 GMT
> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
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>
> Bridet
I am speechless. I am very sorry to hear this. You have my prayers for
you and your dad. What a hard things to have to do.
Bob
Sandra - 10 Jan 2005 17:12 GMT
So sorry to hear of your sad situation.I hope I am as brave about it when
the time comes to let my dad go. Our thoughts are with you, even if we are
far away.
Take care,
Sandra
Cathi - 10 Jan 2005 17:46 GMT
>Thanks for reading all the way to the bottom for those of you who did.
That's what we're here for. Thinking of you at this tough time,

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Marina - 10 Jan 2005 18:03 GMT
> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying.
I'm so very sorry, Bridget. What a tough thing to have to do! Purrs for
you, your Dad and his cat. Hugs too.

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Howard Berkowitz - 10 Jan 2005 18:13 GMT
> The bottom line is that I am going to be pulling life support on my Dad
> who is still functioning. It isn't like he is hooked up to a machine.
> That would be easy. I talked to my father about it tonight. No one had
> told him. He is ready to go. We had a priest come in and do last
> rights, so it doesn't matter if he has a heart attack tonight.
{{{{Bridget}}}
I had something of a reverse problem, but I think it will relate. My
mother had breast cancer with bone metastases. They had tried a
treatment of the painful bone cancer--not an unreasonable treatment--but
it was not successful. It did, however, have the effect of greatly
increasing her blood calcium level.
I was acting as her medical surrogate, but at long distance. Since I do
have a medical background, it had been arranged that I could get any
report, and the nurses were directed to read me anything from the chart.
What I heard was confusing.
So, I talked to my mother, and she had said that she had told the nurses
not to give her IVs that they told her "would build her up." No one
there had explained the real situation.
If the calcium level had been allowed to continue to rise, she would
have gotten more and more drowsy, fallen asleep, and never wake up
again. Given her advanced disease and very few alternatives (this was
1975), it might have been a rational choice to refuse the treatment and
know your death would be painless.
No one had presented this alternative. Further, they had not said that
the calcium-lowering treatment was not completely benign. Complicating
the whole situation was that there was one treatment not yet tried, not
a high probability, but that MIGHT buy her more time.
I spent a very rough time on the phone, being as objective and
supportive as possible and explaining her real choices. Yes, I had
authority to make decisions if she were incompetent, but I didn't think
she was at the time. By this time, she was getting more and more
child-like and dependent, and, I think, wanted me to make the decision.
I didn't think I should do that--even though I had an opinion, which was
that the sure and gentle death was the best choice.
Eventually, she elected for treatment and the other drug. Sadly, she
continued to decline, and then was transferred to a VA hospital that
would not accept medical powers of attorney or DNR orders. She died
badly, including a literal full resuscitation when she was clearly
terminal.
There isn't any easy way.
Debra Berry - 10 Jan 2005 18:30 GMT
Bridget,
I am so sorry to read the sad news. My prayers, positive thoughts,
and the kitties purrs to you to get through this hard time, to
your father for an easy passing, to your friend for her support,
and to you father's kitty for a good home to appear.
Debbie Berry
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> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
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>
> Bridet
Jo Firey - 10 Jan 2005 19:52 GMT
Prayers and hugs and all that. And strength to you and your Dad and those
who are around to support you now.
Keep talking to your Dad about what is happening. Make sure the hospital is
the best place for him to me right now and where he wishes to be. If he may
have a little time left hospice might be better. Talk to the doctors or
nurses or patient advocate in the hospital about that.
While my heart breaks for you, in a way I envy you being able to be there
and able to still talk to him and do things for him. It is a gift and a
blessing you will be truly grateful for.
Jo
>I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my Dad
>is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe Congestive
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>
> Bridet
Ann - 10 Jan 2005 20:33 GMT
Purrs and prayers on the way for you and your Dad.
Ann
>I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my Dad
>is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe Congestive
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>
> Bridet
Yowie - 10 Jan 2005 21:03 GMT
Hugs and purrs to you & your Dad, Bridget.
Yowie
> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
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>
> Bridet
Bev - 10 Jan 2005 21:42 GMT
> Hugs and purrs to you & your Dad, Bridget.
>
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> >
> > Bridet
I am so sorry Bridget - it's a heartbreaking time for you.
Love and many purrs,
Bev

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polonca12000 - 10 Jan 2005 21:48 GMT
I'm crying with you, Bridget, I do so wish there was something I could do
for your dad and you. You took such good care of your father.
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> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying. <snip>
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>
> Bridet
Monique Y. Mudama - 10 Jan 2005 22:06 GMT
I certainly did read all the way through. What a horrible situation for you
and your father to face. It sounds like he is a very courageous man. Purrs
and hugs to you and your father.
> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my Dad is
> dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe Congestive Heart
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>
> Bridet

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Ginger-lyn Summer - 10 Jan 2005 22:17 GMT
>I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
>Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
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>
>Bridet
{{{{Bridget}}}}} I am so very sorry to hear this. I know your heart
must be breaking. And to have to make such a difficult choice -- my
thoughts are with you.
Purrs for strength for you in these dark days.
Ginger-lyn
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 10 Jan 2005 22:41 GMT
> able to take care of its own blood pressure. But it is not to be and
> they are going to take it away in two days. Actually, since it is life
> support, they are going to ask me to take it away.
<snip>
> The perverse thing about this life support is that with it, my father is
> awake, alert, oriented, thinking clearly and is able to enjoy the time
> he has.
But Bridget, if he is "awake, alert", etc. why wouldn't they
just ask HIM? It's his life, after all, shouldn't he have a
say in how he chooses to end it? (I'd certainly want to, if
it were me!) Even if, for some reason, he can't speak,
surely he could indicate "yes" or "no" in some way, couldn't he?
Bridget - 11 Jan 2005 00:20 GMT
>> able to take care of its own blood pressure. But it is not to be and
>> they are going to take it away in two days. Actually, since it is
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> for some reason, he can't speak, surely he could indicate "yes" or "no"
> in some way, couldn't he?
I think they didn't want to bother him because he was so sick. And, of
course, there is there terrible tendency to treat the elderly as if they
already can't make their own decisions. My answer to that was to take a
steamed lobster in to my father (his favorite food in the world), tell
him exactly how sick he was and exactly what was keeping him alive and
that within a few days time they were going to remove it and that would
kill him and I told him we could make the decision together. I wouldn't
leave him to make it all alone and I wouldn't make it all alone. We
called for a priest for last rights in case they were needed for side
effects of the medication and made 'plans'.I will let everyone know what
happens. But it will be by my father's choice, and not just mine.
Bridget
Marina - 11 Jan 2005 04:46 GMT
> I think they didn't want to bother him because he was so sick. And, of
> course, there is there terrible tendency to treat the elderly as if they
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> effects of the medication and made 'plans'.I will let everyone know what
> happens. But it will be by my father's choice, and not just mine.
It's good that you won't have to make the decision alone but together
with the person certainly most affected by it. I'm glad your father has
a daughter like you who is there for him. Jo was right in that you are
lucky in way, to be there and to be able to talk about this with him,
and if needs be, say goodbye properly. When my dad was in hospital after
having a brain tumour removed, I had such complete confidence in modern
medicine that I never doubted he would be home and back to his old self
in no time. It wasn't until he was taken into an intensive care unit a
week or so later that I realised he might not. He was too out of it to
really respond to anything by that time. I do cherish the memory of one
time when I was visiting him, I took his hand, he briefly opened his
eyes, closed them and then squeezed my hand. Cherish these moments with
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 12 Jan 2005 04:34 GMT
>>> able to take care of its own blood pressure. But it is not to be and
>>> they are going to take it away in two days. Actually, since it is
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> effects of the medication and made 'plans'.I will let everyone know what
> happens. But it will be by my father's choice, and not just mine.
Ah, I see - I misunderstood. It's a difficult decision in
any case, but at least you'll know it's what he wants, too.
Purrs and prayers for you and your Dad - I think that kind
of situation must be the hardest of all. (I hope, when my
time comes, I don't have more than an hour or so to
anticipate it!)
> Bridget
CatNipped - 11 Jan 2005 00:59 GMT
> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>
> Bridet
Oh Bridget, I'm so sorry to read this. How awful for you! Purrs and cyber
hugs are on their way, and if you need a shoulder to cry on, just give me a
call (you do still have my number don't you?).
Hugs,
CatNipped
Lucy's Mom - 11 Jan 2005 01:20 GMT
Oh Bridget......our thoughts and prayers are with you and you dad.
--Kim
>I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
>Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
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>
>Bridet
Annie Wxill - 11 Jan 2005 01:30 GMT
>I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my Dad
>is dying. ...
> Bridet
Oh, Bridget, my heart aches for you.
Hugs,
Annie
pmendhall - 11 Jan 2005 01:59 GMT
(((((((((((((((Bridget)))))))))))))))
Sending all the purrs, doggie drool and sustaining energy you way. Last
year my dad was admitted to the hospital with congestive heart failure, and
due to other health issues it was untreatable. We didn't have to make the
decision that you do and I am sending the sustaining energy your way to
help you through this time. Remember that there are people all around the
world purring/praying and thinking of you and your dad at this time.
Diane
> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying.
Yoj - 11 Jan 2005 02:03 GMT
> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
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>
> Bridet
(((((((((Bridget)))))))))
I'm so sorry, both for the fact that you're losing your Dad and that you
have to make this hard decision. I'm glad he is able to understand and let
you know he is all right with it, but it still must be terribly painful. I
hope the woman he chose will take his cat.
Purrs and hugs,
Joy
CajunPrincess@mail2world.com - 11 Jan 2005 02:20 GMT
> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
> Congestive Heart Failure, his lungs had almost filled completely with
> fluid, on top of that he had a kidney infection that was probably
> septic, and the stress of all of it caused him to have a heart attack.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> they didn't know if they would ever be able to take him off of it. They
> hoped it would give his body those precious few days to heal and be
> able to take care of its own blood pressure. But it is not to be and
> they are going to take it away in two days. Actually, since it is life
> support, they are going to ask me to take it away.
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> Bridet
I am so sorry to read this. Although most people have to deal with the
passing of their parents, I've never known of anyone who had to deal
with it in a situation quite like yours. As incredibly hard as it is,
it seems to me that it's a good thing that you have the chance to be
with your father during this time. My best wishes go out to you and
your father during such a trying time.
Elise - 11 Jan 2005 02:23 GMT
> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
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>
> Bridet
{{{{{Bridget}}}}} Our most heartfelt purrs for you and your Dad.

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badwilson - 11 Jan 2005 03:01 GMT
I'm so sorry, Bridget. And what a heartbreaking decision to make too.
Hugs and purrs,
--
Britta
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> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
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>
> Bridet
Sam Nash - 11 Jan 2005 03:55 GMT
>I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my Dad
>is dying.
<snipped>
{{{{{{{{{{{{ Bridget }}}}}}}}}}}}}} My heart goes out to you and your Dad.
Purrs and prayers for both of you.
Sam
Exocat - 11 Jan 2005 18:04 GMT
All the supportive purrs in the world for you, Bridget, at this most
difficult of times. What a terrible decision for you to have to make. I
hope, provided that his kitty is successfully rehomed, that you can take
considerable comfort from the fact that your father is ready & willing
to depart this "vale of tears".
Our thoughts will be with you constantly.
Mighty purrs
Gordon & the TT
>I found out today what I had suspected for a couple of days, that my
>Dad is dying.
Christina Websell - 11 Jan 2005 19:19 GMT
Dear Bev,
I lost my most beloved parent two years ago, suddenly, and am still not over
it. I never had to make a decision like you have to, though.
I pray that you will make a decision that your conscience is comfortable
with. That's your dilemma, isn't it?
(((very big hugs))) and know that I am thinking about your difficult
situation. I wish I could help.
Tweed
>I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my Dad
>is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe Congestive
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>
> Bridet
Tanada - 13 Jan 2005 08:33 GMT
>>I have a friend who is willing to come stay with me after they take my Dad
>>off the Dopamine drip until he dies, even to taking time off work. She is
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>just managed to make this on topic. If she doesn't want his cat, then I
>>have a couple of ideas. But we will have to see.
Oh, my baby girl, what a tough decision and time you are going through.
I'm so sorry for you and all you're dealing with. Please hang in
there and know that we are here to help you, and if you need to get
medical help for yourself, that's ok. It is never easy to lose a parent
and this is harder than most. Our purrs and thoughts are with you.
Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Five + Calvin and Speedy the D-thing
Adrian - 12 Jan 2005 11:16 GMT
> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> In the meantime, he has developed pneumonia on each lung - one
> responding to antibiotics, the other not.
Oh, Bridget, I'm so sorry. You've had such an awful time lately, I wish
there was something I could do to ease your pain. Purrs that you find a
home for your father's cat before he goes, and that he can know you
have.

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Singh - 27 Jan 2005 03:27 GMT
This is never, ever off-topic as far as I am concerned. Your father sounds
like one heluva brave fellow. I wish I'd met him. And you've got guts
yourself. Please know that you're not alone by any means. We''l be praying
for the both of you.
Blessed be,
Baha
> I found out today what I had suspeected for a couple of days, that my
> Dad is dying. He went into the hospital last Tuesday with severe
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>
> Bridet