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Monique Y. Mudama - 09 Jan 2005 22:37 GMT
Well, I didn't bother to check my messages at Steamboat, as no one ever calls,
anyway.  When I got home, I had four messages from my mom.  Apparently my dad
had a hole in his intestine and had 8 inches removed.  Congenital, they say.
He's on morphine and should be fine, but it's still scary and I feel guilty
for not checking messages earlier, even though I could have done nothing but
worry instead of enjoying my ski trip.  Purrs, please, for a quick and
complications-free recovery.

Also, Oscar has a thing on her lip.  I noticed something pinkish before we
left Friday night, but I thought it was the barest tip of her tongue from
playing.  She was squirming a lot when I tried to pick her up, and I couldn't
see anything real obvious; I half thought it was my imagination.  When I got
home today, it was a lot more obvious.  Her lower lip is a bit swollen, pink
with maybe some texture and lighter spots.  She is acting more or less like
herself and is grooming herself, so I don't think she's in *too* much pain.  I
wonder if she could have gotten tetanus from the cat dancer?  Just don't know.
My vet call was forwarded to the emergency clinic; they basically said it
didn't sound too serious, but wouldn't discourage me from coming in today
(Sunday).  Thing is, it's an emergency room, worst cases first, and there's an
animal currently in surgery, so I couldn't bring her in for another few hours
anyway.  As she's grooming herself (so using her mouth normally), I think I'll
wait till tomorrow and take her to our normal vet then.  Anyway, purrs,
please, that it's nothing serious.

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Victor Martinez - 09 Jan 2005 22:49 GMT
> anyway.  When I got home, I had four messages from my mom.  Apparently my dad
> had a hole in his intestine and had 8 inches removed.  Congenital, they say.

Yikes! Lots of healing purrs on the way.

> anyway.  As she's grooming herself (so using her mouth normally), I think I'll
> wait till tomorrow and take her to our normal vet then.  Anyway, purrs,
> please, that it's nothing serious.

Lots of purrs for her too.

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Tanada - 09 Jan 2005 23:18 GMT
> Well, I didn't bother to check my messages at Steamboat, as no one ever calls,
> anyway.  When I got home, I had four messages from my mom.  Apparently my dad
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Also, Oscar has a thing on her lip.

Purrs and healing thoughts and wishes for Oscar and your dad, Monique.
We're hoping that both problems will work out easily for you and your
family.

Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Five + Calvin and Speedy the D-thing
Monique Y. Mudama - 10 Jan 2005 00:48 GMT
> Purrs and healing thoughts and wishes for Oscar and your dad, Monique.
> We're hoping that both problems will work out easily for you and your
> family.
>
> Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Five + Calvin and Speedy the D-thing

Thank you.

On an unrelated note, I just got back from the pharmacy, where I was told
that Eric's covered, but I'm not.  What?  This is the first time I've not had
insurance in my own name since I moved out of my parents' house, and it's not
an auspicious beginning.  Naturally, there's nothing Eric's HR dept or
insurance company can do until Monday, so I just get to sit on my thumbs and
worry.  I *should* be covered.  Eric *did* send in the paperwork.  I hate it
when things are out of my hands.

I'm sure it will all work out, but ugh!

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mlbriggs - 10 Jan 2005 00:30 GMT
> Well, I didn't bother to check my messages at Steamboat, as no one ever calls,
> anyway.  When I got home, I had four messages from my mom.  Apparently my dad
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> wait till tomorrow and take her to our normal vet then.  Anyway, purrs,
> please, that it's nothing serious.

Purrs  that little Oscar will be OK.   MLB
mlbriggs - 10 Jan 2005 00:32 GMT
> Well, I didn't bother to check my messages at Steamboat, as no one ever calls,
> anyway.  When I got home, I had four messages from my mom.  Apparently my dad
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> wait till tomorrow and take her to our normal vet then.  Anyway, purrs,
> please, that it's nothing serious.

Purrs for Dad.  Many years ago, one of my bosses had 20 inches removed
and he got along fine.  Surgery today is even better.  MLB
Monique Y. Mudama - 10 Jan 2005 00:43 GMT
> Purrs for Dad.  Many years ago, one of my bosses had 20 inches removed and
> he got along fine.  Surgery today is even better.  MLB

I'm sure he'll be fine.  It's just hard to hear my dad speaking with a
morphine-induced slur, and I know it's hard on my mom.  Right now I wish I
lived closer to home.

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Karen Chuplis - 10 Jan 2005 00:53 GMT
>> Purrs for Dad.  Many years ago, one of my bosses had 20 inches removed and
>> he got along fine.  Surgery today is even better.  MLB
>
> I'm sure he'll be fine.  It's just hard to hear my dad speaking with a
> morphine-induced slur, and I know it's hard on my mom.  Right now I wish I
> lived closer to home.

How far away are you? Purrs for a quick recovery and purrs for Oscar too.
Let us know what the vet says.
Monique Y. Mudama - 10 Jan 2005 02:28 GMT
>> I'm sure he'll be fine.  It's just hard to hear my dad speaking with a
>> morphine-induced slur, and I know it's hard on my mom.  Right now I wish I
>> lived closer to home.
>
> How far away are you? Purrs for a quick recovery and purrs for Oscar too.
> Let us know what the vet says.

Either a 3 hour flight and an 8 hour drive, or 2 flights and a 3 hour drive.
There are local mini-airports, but they're not direct and cost an arm and a
leg.  Dad's under control, so there's no reason to visit, and doing so would
jeopardize my entire project at work.  It's just too bad he's not an hour's
drive away, you know?

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SUQKRT - 10 Jan 2005 17:44 GMT
>> Purrs for Dad.  Many years ago, one of my bosses had 20 inches removed
>and
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>I
>lived closer to home.

Purrs for your Dad Monique.
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Christina Websell - 13 Jan 2005 21:13 GMT
>> Purrs for Dad.  Many years ago, one of my bosses had 20 inches removed
>> and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> morphine-induced slur, and I know it's hard on my mom.  Right now I wish I
> lived closer to home.

Morphine is great when you've just had an operation, speaking from
experience.
But it has a strange effect - or at least it did on me.  It did not take
away the pain, what it took away was my ability to care about whether I had
pain or not.
It can also make you a bit "high."

Example:  Me, in hospital, trying to sign in for the radio earphone thingie
next to my bed..
I press the button.  Someone answers.  Me:  "I want the radio"  Them:"what
bed and ward are you in?"   Me  "hahaha, I haven't a clue!"  Them:  "Are you
on morphine?"   Me:  "Yes"  Them:  "Can you get someone else to come to the
phone?"   Me:  "Dunno"
Thankfully, a visitor at another bed came and took over for me.  I got the
radio which was great as I was unable to sleep and listened to it through my
earphones most of the night.
Morphine is peculiar stuff.  It seemed to alter my senses, like I said, I
knew I was in pain, and could feel it, but somehow I didn't care.  Weird.

Tweed
Adrian - 15 Jan 2005 15:56 GMT
>>> Purrs for Dad.  Many years ago, one of my bosses had 20 inches
>>> removed and
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Tweed

I've heard some heroin addicts started out by having morphine in
hospital. It must be very difficult for people that have had to take for
a long time.
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O J - 15 Jan 2005 18:43 GMT
>I've heard some heroin addicts started out by having morphine in
>hospital. It must be very difficult for people that have had to take for
>a long time.

I'm sure it an be.  I only had to take it for a relatively short time
when I've needed it.  I didn't enjoy it, but it was useful.  I really
liked the Demerol shots though!  

I'd expect someone's father to have more than a little trouble though
finding a drug dealer -- not that it's hard to find drugs in any
metropolitan area, but getting a set-up including a spike and making a
cooker is not a trivial matter.  It's probably  easier just to get a
prescription for OxyContin.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Christina Websell - 15 Jan 2005 23:08 GMT
>> Morphine is peculiar stuff.  It seemed to alter my senses, like I
>> said, I knew I was in pain, and could feel it, but somehow I didn't
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I've heard some heroin addicts started out by having morphine in
> hospital.

Luckily, I've avoided that.  I can see how it happens, though.

> It must be very difficult for people that have had to take for
> a long time.

I don't think you *can* take morphine for a long time.  It kills you.  When
my aunt was dying of cancer they asked her husband about increasing her
morphine.  They told him it would kill her sooner rather than later.
She was in a lot of pain, so he chose more morphine for her, knowing it
would accelerate her death.  As far as I'm concerned that was a brave
decision.

Tweed
Jo Firey - 15 Jan 2005 23:27 GMT
>>> Morphine is peculiar stuff.  It seemed to alter my senses, like I
>>> said, I knew I was in pain, and could feel it, but somehow I didn't
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Tweed

I've actually said the following to my daughter when discussing such
decisions.  "Make sure they give me enough Morphine and I promise to quit
breathing"

I do not ever want her to feel guilty about having to make such a decision
and would far prefer that it be made a bit too soon rather than too late.

Jo
Christina Websell - 16 Jan 2005 00:13 GMT
>>>> Morphine is peculiar stuff.  It seemed to alter my senses, like I
>>>> said, I knew I was in pain, and could feel it, but somehow I didn't
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Jo

I'm with you on that.
Having had morphine to help me recover from surgery, if I'm ever terminally
ill and given a morphine thingie that I can control with a push button,
that's what I want.
It makes you laugh at pain.  You can still feel it, but it's totally
unimportant.  Don't ask me how this works, I haven't a clue.  Howard might
know.

Tweed
Howard Berkowitz - 16 Jan 2005 01:38 GMT
> >> Morphine is peculiar stuff.  It seemed to alter my senses, like I
> >> said, I knew I was in pain, and could feel it, but somehow I didn't
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> would accelerate her death.  As far as I'm concerned that was a brave
> decision.

Depends on whether the pain is chronic or acute. With proper dosing in
chronic pain, opioids like morphine essentially have no limit to the
maximum dose, and do not shorten life.  I've known patients that have
been on incredibly high doses for years, prescribed by experts, and
manage to play at least amateur sports.

In an acute pain situation, there is a tradeoff. Morphine depresses
respiration, and, when pain quickly increases, it may be impossible to
get the body used to the level needed to relieve pain without
interfering with breathing.  In such a situation, the drug will also be
sedating, and some people choose to accept some pain rather than lose
awareness.

If the acute condition is something that isn't terminal, it can be
perfectly appropriate to give as much drug as necessary to block pain,
and put the patient on a respirator.
Howard Berkowitz - 16 Jan 2005 01:27 GMT
> I've heard some heroin addicts started out by having morphine in
> hospital. It must be very difficult for people that have had to take for
> a long time.

It's quite rare, actually, that people who are properly given doses of
morphine (or other opioids) for pain become psychologically addicted;
the physiological addiction is probably not as bad as nicotine.

The problem is that many physicians and care facilities don't administer
them properly. One of the key concepts is not to get the patient craving
the next injection -- that means when moderate to severe pain is
reasonably expected, the drug MUST be given at regular intervals -- not
"as needed", when the patient is already in trouble.

Another technique that helps in acute care is patient-controlled
analgesia: a relatively low dose continuous IV, with a button that the
patient can press to get a booster dose. There is a lockout to avoid
overdoses.  When the patient feels in control, as they do with the
optional dose, they tend to take LESS drug than if they are purely
dependent on the staff.

Chronic and acute pain are physiologically different. It can be totally
appropriate to prescribe opioids indefinitely for a chronic condition,
as long as it is done skillfully and for an appropriate condition.
Indeed, one non-intuitive thing is that as long as chronic pain is
present, if the dose is increased at a safe rate, there really is no
upper limit to the dose. Just as one example, I know of a patient with
severe sickle-cell disease, who, prior to entering a specialized pain
management program, spent her days bedridden, in agony.  She had a pump
inserted into her body that pumps morphine continuously into her spinal
fluid, and she has gone back to challenging engineering work, raising a
family, and generally leading a normal life. If a person who was not
taking regular morphine got her one-hour dose in a vein (which is much
less efficient than the spine), they'd be dead before the needle was
withdrawn.
Monique Y. Mudama - 19 Jan 2005 22:11 GMT
(Jumping into an old conversation on morphine)

> Another technique that helps in acute care is patient-controlled analgesia:
> a relatively low dose continuous IV, with a button that the patient can
> press to get a booster dose. There is a lockout to avoid overdoses.  When
> the patient feels in control, as they do with the optional dose, they tend
> to take LESS drug than if they are purely dependent on the staff.

There's *supposed* to be a lockout ...

My MIL was in the hospital after back surgery and DH was by her side.  I
wasn't around, but apparently she had one of these morphine drips with the
button.  Thing is, unbeknownst to anyone, the tube with the more powerful
medication dripping directly into her back became dislodged, so it was
dribbling down her back rather than getting into her.  DH's mom hit the
booster button often enough that she overdosed and lost consciousness ... DH
could tell she wasn't breathing, and actually had to initiate a code blue,
which apparently was just about the scariest thing he's ever experienced, with
tens of doctors appearing at once.  They gave her a shot of <something> that
apparently immediately counters the effects of morphine, and his mom shot bolt
upright, gasping.  Unfortunately, it counters the pain killing aspect as well
as the breathing aspect.

Afterwards, the hospital staff said that the IV drip machine was busted, or
miscalibrated, or something.  I'm just really glad that DH was there, watching
her.

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Howard Berkowitz - 20 Jan 2005 00:44 GMT
> (Jumping into an old conversation on morphine)
>
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> dribbling down her back rather than getting into her.  DH's mom hit the
> booster button often enough that she overdosed and lost consciousness ...

I'm speechless that both failures could occur and no alarms triggered.
> DH
> could tell she wasn't breathing, and actually had to initiate a code
> blue,
> which apparently was just about the scariest thing he's ever experienced,
> with
> tens of doctors appearing at once.  They gave her a shot of <something>

Probably naloxone (trade name Narcan)

> that
> apparently immediately counters the effects of morphine, and his mom shot
> bolt
> upright, gasping.  Unfortunately, it counters the pain killing aspect as
> well
> as the breathing aspect.

Your MIL's situation certainly was not remotely funny, but in emergency
medicine, there are some practical cautions.  In the field, when you
find a patient in coma, the protocol calls for taking a baseline blood
sample, and then giving several drugs rapidly, without further testing,
for the most common causes of coma. The key ones are glucose (with
vitamin B1) and naloxone.

In a street situation, however, you just give a little naloxone and see
if there's a clinical response.  Otherwise, if you give too much, you
may suddenly be confronted with an addict thoroughly annoyed that you
ruined a $200 fix.

> Afterwards, the hospital staff said that the IV drip machine was busted,
> or
> miscalibrated, or something.  I'm just really glad that DH was there,
> watching
> her.

She was very lucky.

If this was at all recent, it might be worth checking if the Patient
Controlled Analgesia equipment malfunction was, as it should have been,
reported to the FDA. At the very least, the pump should have gone back
to the factory for a very detailed analysis of what went wrong -- if it
was a design or manufacturing problem.

I'd also want to hear a REALLY good explanation of the spinal pump
problem. In general, a well-designed pump should sense when it isn't
getting expected resistance, as when the line isn't in a body space.

A company I work with makes remote monitors for devices including IV
pumps, sending the data to the nursing station.  I am going to recommend
it add an additional alarm for amount of dose measured -- right now, we
store it, but we don't have an alarm for overdose. Hearing this, I think
we should -- it's actually a minor software enhancement.
Monique Y. Mudama - 20 Jan 2005 00:58 GMT
>> There's *supposed* to be a lockout ...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I'm speechless that both failures could occur and no alarms triggered.

Definitely scary.  Of course, this is me recounting the story second-hand, but
the two things I'm sure of are that the spinal drip somehow got disconnected
and that the morphine button allowed her to use enough that Eric kept having
to wake her up to remind her to breathe, until finally he got really scared.

>> DH could tell she wasn't breathing, and actually had to initiate a code
>> blue, which apparently was just about the scariest thing he's ever
>> experienced, with tens of doctors appearing at once.  They gave her a shot
>> of <something>
>
> Probably naloxone (trade name Narcan)

Yup, that's it, Narcan.

> In a street situation, however, you just give a little naloxone and see if
> there's a clinical response.  Otherwise, if you give too much, you may
> suddenly be confronted with an addict thoroughly annoyed that you ruined a
> $200 fix.

I'm surprised that a doctor would particularly care about a person's high
getting trampled on, especially if they were in a coma?

>> Afterwards, the hospital staff said that the IV drip machine was busted, or
>> miscalibrated, or something.  I'm just really glad that DH was there,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> the factory for a very detailed analysis of what went wrong -- if it was a
> design or manufacturing problem.

It was last year.  I'm not sure that DH will be that thrilled that I mentioned
all this in a public forum ... but I'll see if I can mention this possibility.

> I'd also want to hear a REALLY good explanation of the spinal pump problem.
> In general, a well-designed pump should sense when it isn't getting expected
> resistance, as when the line isn't in a body space.

I seem to recall that the line actually broke, as opposed to simply becoming
dislodged?  Like broken glass?  I was never very clear on this part of it.

> A company I work with makes remote monitors for devices including IV pumps,
> sending the data to the nursing station.  I am going to recommend it add an
> additional alarm for amount of dose measured -- right now, we store it, but
> we don't have an alarm for overdose. Hearing this, I think we should -- it's
> actually a minor software enhancement.

I think that's a good idea.  As you say, it shouldn't be a big deal, and if it
even saves one life ...

I'll try to find out the details and see if I can explain them better.  But as
I said, DH was pretty shook up and it's not an experience he likes to recall.

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Howard Berkowitz - 20 Jan 2005 02:37 GMT
> > In article <slrncutmop.7dk.spam@home.bounceswoosh.org>, "Monique Y.  
> > Mudama"
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> to wake her up to remind her to breathe, until finally he got really
> scared.

> > In a street situation, however, you just give a little naloxone and see
> > if
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I'm surprised that a doctor would particularly care about a person's high
> getting trampled on, especially if they were in a coma?

Neither EMTs nor emergency physicians particularly enjoy having a
wide-awake 300-pound outlaw biker wake up with a hangover and grounds
for annoyance!

> >> Afterwards, the hospital staff said that the IV drip machine was
> >> busted, or
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> dislodged?  Like broken glass?  I was never very clear on this part of
> it.

Right -- but the pump should sense the flow rate, which would go up with
a broken line. The only exception I can think of if it's the type that
isn't a drip, but a motor-driven screw.

> > A company I work with makes remote monitors for devices including IV
> > pumps,
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> I said, DH was pretty shook up and it's not an experience he likes to
> recall.

If you prefer, we can take this offline.
Jean Hobbs - 18 Jan 2005 09:47 GMT
After I had my knee replacements I was put on morphine, when the physio
came round to talk to me he asked my Daughter,' is your Mother always like
this ' she said ' NO! she's very alert, its the drugs, I must have sounded
very strange to her too, cause she said I was saying the strangest things.
                 Jean.P.

> >>> Purrs for Dad.  Many years ago, one of my bosses had 20 inches
> >>> removed and
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> Adrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera)
> A house is not a home, without a cat.
Cheryl Perkins - 16 Jan 2005 00:49 GMT
>  Morphine is great when you've just had an operation, speaking from
> experience.
> But it has a strange effect - or at least it did on me.  It did not take
> away the pain, what it took away was my ability to care about whether I had
> pain or not.

That's how opiates work, and is absolutely typical of painkillers in that
family. I'd read about this, and some years afterwards, when I was given a
related drug after I had my wisdom teeth out, I found out it was true. If
I really tried, I knew, and I could tell myself, that my mouth really,
really hurt. But it didn't matter. I couldn't get upset about it at all.
It's a very strange feeling, *making* yourself notice that you are in
pain. So I stopped doing it!

> It can also make you a bit "high."

I didn't notice that; perhaps I had too little!

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Howard Berkowitz - 16 Jan 2005 01:33 GMT
>  Morphine is great when you've just had an operation, speaking from
> experience.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> pain or not.
> It can also make you a bit "high."

> Morphine is peculiar stuff.  It seemed to alter my senses, like I said, I
> knew I was in pain, and could feel it, but somehow I didn't care.  Weird.

That's actually a fair description of the major effect. Pain, contrary
to popular belief, is not an emotion.  Specialized nerve endings sense
chemical indications of tissue destruction, just as other nerve endings
variously sense touch, heat, or cold.

From the nerve ending, the signal travels through the spine and (excuse
me for simplification) to a part of the "lower" brain that acts as a
"gate" to the higher, conscious centers. One of the effects of opioids
is to block the receptors on the gate, preventing it from transmitting
pain signals to the "higher" brain.

Many, but not all, opioids have an additional euphoric effect (as well
as other effects). Methadone, which is an excellent oral drug for
moderate to severe pain, has very little euphoric effect. The molecular
pharmacologists keep trying to find the euphoria receptors and tailor
painkillers that don't stimulate them.  It's the euphoriant effect that
leads to psychological addiction.

Unfortunately, morphine class drugs cannot be used for pain control in
cats. Given to cats, they cause wild excitation, but don't appear to
relieve pain.
Susan M - 19 Jan 2005 03:49 GMT
"Howard Berkowitz" <hcb@gettcomm.com> wrote in message
news:hcb-70717C.20332815012005@news-> That's actually a fair description of
the major effect. Pain, contrary
> to popular belief, is not an emotion.  Specialized nerve endings sense
> chemical indications of tissue destruction, just as other nerve endings
> variously sense touch, heat, or cold.

Thanks for all your posts on this Howard - very interesting

Susan M
otis and chester
Marina - 16 Jan 2005 04:53 GMT
>  Morphine is great when you've just had an operation, speaking from
> experience.
> But it has a strange effect - or at least it did on me.  It did not take
> away the pain, what it took away was my ability to care about whether I had
> pain or not.
> It can also make you a bit "high."

I had morphine after my thyroid was removed (had half my throat cut
open). I don't remember any pain, I just remember the weirdest dreams.
I'd wake up now and then, feel the pain, ring for the nurse, and she'd
come and give me another shot. Then I had the weirdest dreams again.
Finally the nurse said she can't give me any more morphine, so I had to
settle for an oral pain killer.

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Sherry - 16 Jan 2005 05:38 GMT
>I'd wake up now and then, feel the pain, ring for the nurse, and she'd
>come and give me another shot. Then I had the weirdest dreams again.
>Finally the nurse said she can't give me any more morphine, so I had to
>settle for an oral pain killer.

When a patient goes to the ER with chest pain, they get "MONA" therapy--which
is Morphine, Oxygen, Nitroglycerin & Aspirin. So I've had it a few times. I
like it. A lot. Probably too much. It's probably a good thing they don't sell
the stuff over the counter.
Howard Berkowitz - 16 Jan 2005 07:03 GMT
> >I'd wake up now and then, feel the pain, ring for the nurse, and she'd
> >come and give me another shot. Then I had the weirdest dreams again.
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> sell
> the stuff over the counter.

One hopes they check current drugs and diseases before administering
anything except the oxygen!
Sherry - 16 Jan 2005 19:55 GMT
>> When a patient goes to the ER with chest pain, they get "MONA"
>> therapy--which
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>One hopes they check current drugs and diseases before administering
>anything except the oxygen!

Of course they do. If they didn't, there would be junkies lined up halfway
around the block to get into the ER. :-)

Sherry
jmcquown - 10 Jan 2005 00:49 GMT
> Well, I didn't bother to check my messages at Steamboat, as no one
> ever calls, anyway.  When I got home, I had four messages from my
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> till tomorrow and take her to our normal vet then.  Anyway, purrs,
> please, that it's nothing serious.

Purrs on the way for your dad and for Oscar.

Jill
CatNipped - 10 Jan 2005 00:54 GMT
Healing purrs on the way for both your dad and Oscar.

Hugs,

CatNipped

> Well, I didn't bother to check my messages at Steamboat, as no one ever calls,
> anyway.  When I got home, I had four messages from my mom.  Apparently my dad
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> Eros was adopted!  Eros has a home now!  *cheer!*
Sam Nash - 10 Jan 2005 01:09 GMT
Purrs for quick recoveries for both your Dad and Oscar.
Sam
badwilson - 10 Jan 2005 02:05 GMT
Purrs for both your dad and Oscar.
--
Britta
Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's
covered in fur!
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http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album

> Well, I didn't bother to check my messages at Steamboat, as no one ever calls,
> anyway.  When I got home, I had four messages from my mom.  Apparently my dad
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Eros was adopted!  Eros has a home now!  *cheer!*
O J - 10 Jan 2005 02:54 GMT
Monique wrote:

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>Anyway, purrs,
>please, that it's nothing serious.

Purrs that Oscar's fine.  As for your dad, of course the clowder and I
are purring for his recovery.  I've had abdominal surgery.  I never
enjoyed morphine, but when the pain got a little more manageable, I
really looked forward to those Demerol shots.  ;-)

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Christine Burel - 10 Jan 2005 03:02 GMT
Purrs for your dad's speedy recovery!  How did he get a hole in his
intestine, I wonder?  Hope you can get Oscar checked out tomorrow -- maybe
he has a small growth --I had something similar removed from one of my cats
and it healed easily without any further problems.  Purrs for him and you --
let us know.
Christine
> Well, I didn't bother to check my messages at Steamboat, as no one ever calls,
> anyway.  When I got home, I had four messages from my mom.  Apparently my dad
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> wait till tomorrow and take her to our normal vet then.  Anyway, purrs,
> please, that it's nothing serious.
Monique Y. Mudama - 10 Jan 2005 03:10 GMT
> Purrs for your dad's speedy recovery!  How did he get a hole in his
> intestine, I wonder?  Hope you can get Oscar checked out tomorrow -- maybe
> he has a small growth --I had something similar removed from one of my cats
> and it healed easily without any further problems.  Purrs for him and you --
> let us know.

I don't know, on the intestine thing.  My parents just kept saying it was
"congenital," which is about as non-specific as it gets.

Oscar's lip looks more inflamed than anything.  I don't think it's a growth.
It does seem like an awfully big coincidence that it happened after a rousing
several hours, off and on, with the cat dancer.  Hrmm, maybe I'll bring the
toy along to the vet's.

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Marina - 10 Jan 2005 04:39 GMT
Purrs coming for you dad and for Oscar. Frank had a swollen lip last
autumn, and it turned out to be an infected tooth.

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Krista - 10 Jan 2005 06:10 GMT
We're sending loads of purrs for your dad and for Oscar.
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Krista
polonca12000 - 10 Jan 2005 11:05 GMT
Lots of healing purrs and best wishes for your dad and hopes that Oscar's
problem is minor and easily treatable,
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> Well, I didn't bother to check my messages at Steamboat, as no one ever calls,
> anyway.  When I got home, I had four messages from my mom.  Apparently my dad
> had a hole in his intestine and had 8 inches removed.  <snip
JBHajos - 10 Jan 2005 13:50 GMT
>  Purrs, please, for a quick and
>complications-free recovery.

  Purrs coming right up!!!  Hope your dad continues to improve and
he'll be up and about soonest.

>Also, Oscar has a thing on her lip.  

 Hoping Oscar's "thing" is simple and minor and she'll be just fine.
Let us know.

  Jeanne
Irulan - 10 Jan 2005 16:39 GMT
Purrs and prayers that it is nothing serious.
Jazz & his mama

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to the stars we return
from now until the end of time

> Well, I didn't bother to check my messages at Steamboat, as no one ever
> calls,
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> wait till tomorrow and take her to our normal vet then.  Anyway, purrs,
> please, that it's nothing serious.
Ann - 10 Jan 2005 20:35 GMT
Purrs on the way for Dad and Oscar.
Ann

> Well, I didn't bother to check my messages at Steamboat, as no one ever
> calls,
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> wait till tomorrow and take her to our normal vet then.  Anyway, purrs,
> please, that it's nothing serious.
Ginger-lyn Summer - 10 Jan 2005 22:13 GMT
>Well, I didn't bother to check my messages at Steamboat, as no one ever calls,
>anyway.  When I got home, I had four messages from my mom.  Apparently my dad
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>wait till tomorrow and take her to our normal vet then.  Anyway, purrs,
>please, that it's nothing serious.

Purrs for both your dad and Oscar on the way.

Ginger-lyn
Elise - 11 Jan 2005 02:11 GMT
> Well, I didn't bother to check my messages at Steamboat, as no one ever calls,
> anyway.  When I got home, I had four messages from my mom.  Apparently my dad
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> wait till tomorrow and take her to our normal vet then.  Anyway, purrs,
> please, that it's nothing serious.

Purrs for your Dad's quick recovery and that Oscar's lip is easily treated

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Exocat - 11 Jan 2005 18:04 GMT
Purrs coming up from Cornwall that they'll both be OK

Gordon & the TT

>  Apparently my dad
> had a hole in his intestine and had 8 inches removed.
Adrian - 12 Jan 2005 10:48 GMT
A little late, trying to catch up. Healing purrs on the way for your dad
and Oscar.
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A house is not a home, without a cat.

Monique Y. Mudama - 12 Jan 2005 15:30 GMT
> A little late, trying to catch up. Healing purrs on the way for your dad
> and Oscar.

Thank you!  It seems that Oscar's lip is already looking better (she won't let
me at it, so I'm taking Eric's word for it), and when I spoke to dad
yesterday, he sounded okay ... he's taking less morphine, so he was able to
track the conversation.

I believe everything is on track for recovery in both Oscar and Dad *knock on
wood*

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Helen Miles - 16 Jan 2005 11:03 GMT
Purrs and prayers as needed. :)

Helen M
 
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