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Christina Websell - 02 Jan 2005 21:29 GMT
I've said before how Kitty FC cannot miaow - or at least, she opens her
mouth and I don't hear her.
My two use the great outdoors for their litter box, they prefer it.  Lots of
nice earth to dig in.

To this end, I have hung up an old apron on the back door handle, and when
KFC needs the outside, she will usually claw it, and I can hear her doing it
and know to let her out.

Just now, there was a loud miaow from beside me.  It was Boyfriend, telling
me that Kitty was at the door with legs crossed.  He didn't want to go out
himself, he didn't want anything at all except to alert me to Kitty's need.
Now I think that's absolutely AMAZING.

She went out hurriedly, came in equally fast after doing what she needed,
and BF has settled down on the settee quite happily again.

This is very nice of him, since she likes to box his ears at every
opportunity ;-)

Tweed
CatNipped - 02 Jan 2005 21:37 GMT
> I've said before how Kitty FC cannot miaow - or at least, she opens her
> mouth and I don't hear her.
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>
> Tweed

Awwww!  What a sweet little gentleman!  BF ha to be one of the nicest cats
I've ever "known"!

Hugs,

CatNipped
Christina Websell - 02 Jan 2005 23:02 GMT
>> I've said before how Kitty FC cannot miaow - or at least, she opens her
>> mouth and I don't hear her.
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>
> CatNipped

I only ever had two cats.  A feral old tom when I was a child that I could
only pet on the top of the head or be seriously slashed.  Many years later
came Kitty FC.  I have to be very careful with her too, everything is on
*her* terms.  One day I can pet her, another day I can't.  Sometimes she
really wants to climb on me and meatloaf, purring, and another time she
doesn't and will scratch and bite..  So, that's what I thought all cats were
like, that was my experience of them.
Then Boyfriend came.  He was first noticed in the garden with Kitty.  Now
Kitty is very intolerant of other cats in her territory, so it seemed
logical to think he was her "boyfriend" and that's how he got his nickname
which has stuck.
He's changed my mind about what I previously thought cats were like.
He does not have a scratch or bite in him.  He is very polite about asking
for food, if he wants some he just wipes himself so gently round my legs
that I can hardly feel it.
My brother came a few days ago, and wanted to pet him.  BF wasn't too keen.
"If I try to stroke him, will he scratch me?"  Absolutely not, he would
rather run away.  He allowed one cheek scritch and ran.
I just love him to bits.  As far as I'm concerned he's the loveliest, most
handsome, most gentle cat that ever lived.  Of course he isn't.  Lots of you
have equally lovely cats.  I know that.
So you will all have to excuse a proud meowmie who says BF is brilliant and
exceptional.
He is.  Really.
Definitely the nicest cat in the world. (OMG I can't believe I said that!)
<duck and run>

Tweed
Sheenah - 02 Jan 2005 21:38 GMT
> I've said before how Kitty FC cannot miaow - or at least, she opens her
> mouth and I don't hear her.
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> himself, he didn't want anything at all except to alert me to Kitty's need.
> Now I think that's absolutely AMAZING.

I agree :^)

Sheenah
mlbriggs - 02 Jan 2005 22:17 GMT
> I've said before how Kitty FC cannot miaow - or at least, she opens her
> mouth and I don't hear her.
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>
> Tweed

I hope she learns to appreciate Boy Friend.   MLB
Christina Websell - 02 Jan 2005 22:39 GMT
>> I've said before how Kitty FC cannot miaow - or at least, she opens her
>> mouth and I don't hear her.
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>
> I hope she learns to appreciate Boy Friend.   MLB

She doesn't deserve him.

Tweed
Jo Firey - 03 Jan 2005 00:58 GMT
I've had cats do that sort of thing often.  Their ability to cooperate
amazes me.

Jo

> I've said before how Kitty FC cannot miaow - or at least, she opens her
> mouth and I don't hear her.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Tweed
Christina Websell - 03 Jan 2005 21:33 GMT
These are my first two cats.  I've never known anything like that before. If
they are capable of that kind of thought, I would have expected BF to let
her cross her legs longer than she could, and laugh at her.  She is horrible
to him 12/24 at least.
He could have got his own back!  He didn't.  Awwww.

Tweed

> I've had cats do that sort of thing often.  Their ability to cooperate
> amazes me.
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>>
>> Tweed
Kreisleriana - 03 Jan 2005 21:44 GMT
>I've had cats do that sort of thing often.  Their ability to cooperate
>amazes me.
>
>Jo

Oh yeah, and their ability to--well-- um-- Mimi (RB)  used to
helpfully whap Stinky when he did things *she* had been been stopped
from doing. ;)

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Tanada - 04 Jan 2005 01:22 GMT
> Oh yeah, and their ability to--well-- um-- Mimi (RB)  used to
> helpfully whap Stinky when he did things *she* had been been stopped
> from doing. ;)

QC let Speedy, the d-thing, know that he is not to chase Pine Cone a
couple of days ago.  I think the message was "only I get to chase the
other cats."  Basically, Speedy ended up running down the hall to try to
hide under Mandy's bed with QC in hot pursuit.

Pam S. still smiling
Marina - 03 Jan 2005 05:25 GMT
> Just now, there was a loud miaow from beside me.  It was Boyfriend, telling
> me that Kitty was at the door with legs crossed.  He didn't want to go out
> himself, he didn't want anything at all except to alert me to Kitty's need.
> Now I think that's absolutely AMAZING.

How very sweet of him. Give him a scritch from me for being such a
gentlecat.

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Christina Websell - 03 Jan 2005 21:35 GMT
>> Just now, there was a loud miaow from beside me.  It was Boyfriend,
>> telling me that Kitty was at the door with legs crossed.  He didn't want
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> How very sweet of him. Give him a scritch from me for being such a
> gentlecat.

Scritch given and he very nearly purred.

Tweed
MrGuilt@gmail.com - 03 Jan 2005 21:59 GMT
Cute!

Eddy, the seven-month-old kitten, did something similar close to
Thanksgiving. My wife gave him some left over turkey. He enjoyed it, so
she gave him some more.

He trotted over to Maggie, the cat I've had for eight years (and she
was 3-5 when I got her), and gave her the turkey. Mind you, Mags wants
*nothing* to do with him, but he shared his turkey.
My wife gave him extra as a reward.
Christina Websell - 03 Jan 2005 22:52 GMT
> Cute!
>
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> *nothing* to do with him, but he shared his turkey.
> My wife gave him extra as a reward.

I haven't been a cat person for long (always had dogs.)   Both of mine came
uninvited.  I'm beginning to notice their different intelligence from that
of dogs.
Why would it matter to Boyfriend whether Kitty wanted to wee or not?  What
would make him come to my side and miaow to draw my attention to her waiting
at the door?  He was comfortably asleep before that on the settee in a
different room.
It was very clear that he wanted me to notice Kitty waiting at the back
door.  I was busy doing something and he said a very loud miaow which made
me look at him.  He then looked into the kitchen, so I did, and saw Kitty,
desperate to go out, not able to make me notice her.
Once she was let out, BF retired back to bed.  I still don't understand if
this was an altruistic action or just a coincidence.
Surely, it cannot be.  Are animals capable of being altruistic?  We are told
not.
Well, it seemed to me that Boyfriend was asking me to open the door for
Kitty who was unable to make me hear with her silent miaow.
To me, that is truly amazing. There is no benefit to him in doing it, so why
should he?  Why didn't he just stay asleep where he was comfortable?  Why
should he ask me to open the door for Kitty when he didn't want to go out
himself?   <cats puzzle me>

Tweed <--back to work tomorrow, expect very few posts.  I'll miss you all,
you lovely lot.
Monique Y. Mudama - 03 Jan 2005 23:06 GMT
> Surely, it cannot be.  Are animals capable of being altruistic?  We
> are told not.

Who told you that?  We hear stories of animals helping out their people here
and there; certainly not unheard of.  Why not help out another animal?  Why
would that be different to them?

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Christina Websell - 03 Jan 2005 23:18 GMT
>> Surely, it cannot be.  Are animals capable of being altruistic?  We
>> are told not.
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> Why
> would that be different to them?

Altruism is (allegedly) a human concept only.  What I saw BF do for Kitty
looked very like it to me.

Tweed
Jo Firey - 03 Jan 2005 23:40 GMT
>>> Surely, it cannot be.  Are animals capable of being altruistic?  We
>>> are told not.
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>
> Tweed

Our Siamese Jake shows concern and caring for our ancient poodle.  He checks
on her to make sure she is OK, comes and gets me if she needs me sometimes,
and plays with her very gently.

You would not believe it if you saw the two of the rolling around on the
floor "wrestling"  which the cat instigates by walking over to the dog and
kicking her with a back foot.  I know its gentle on the dogs part as she
only has one tooth left and I know its gentle on the cats part because if
there were any teeth or claws involved the dog would squeel.  It happens
almost every evening and is about the only exercise the dog gets.

Jo
Christina Websell - 04 Jan 2005 00:46 GMT
>>>> Surely, it cannot be.  Are animals capable of being altruistic?  We
>>>> are told not.
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>
> Jo

I know just what it's like to have an ancient dog who you love to bits.  My
whippet Minnie, who lived to be 19.  She became very frail.  I had to get a
child fireguard so she couldn't wobble so she might burn herself against the
wood burner.
In the end I carried her outside to wee and poo.  She knew when the grass
came too and would oblige immediately.
One day after she stopped eating, I force fed her.  She said she didn't want
it.  I refused to listen and pushed it down her.
The next day she didn't want it either.  That's when I called it a day and
asked the vet to come.

This was bad..  I rang in the morning for him to come and put an end to it.

I lay all day, cradling my beloved dog on my chest until the vet eventually
came in the afternoon.  It was terrible.  The waiting.  Dreadful.

Tweed
Tanada - 04 Jan 2005 01:29 GMT
> Altruism is (allegedly) a human concept only.  What I saw BF do for Kitty
> looked very like it to me.
>
> Tweed

In that case, I've got some very human cats.  Huey always comforts
anyone he senses is upset.  When Rob was recovering from his Radiation,
and later his chemo, Huey stayed with him, only getting up to eat,
drink, and use the litter box.  Tanada stopped all hostilities with him,
in order to also stay with Rob.  Impressive, as she usually hisspits at
every other feline.

When one of us is ill, Huey (and sometimes Merlin) stays with them until
he thinks that person is well.  I can usually tell I'm coming down with
something by Huey taking up nursecat position.

Pam S.
Adrian - 05 Jan 2005 16:56 GMT
<snip>
>Tweed <--back to work tomorrow, expect very few posts.  I'll miss you
> all, you lovely lot.

BF sounds such a wonderfull cat. Missing you already.
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Christine Burel - 10 Jan 2005 04:23 GMT
Awwww! How sweet!
Christine
> Cute!
>
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> *nothing* to do with him, but he shared his turkey.
> My wife gave him extra as a reward.
Bill Stock - 05 Jan 2005 18:12 GMT
> I've said before how Kitty FC cannot miaow - or at least, she opens her
> mouth and I don't hear her.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> This is very nice of him, since she likes to box his ears at every
> opportunity ;-)

Sort of like Cali. She despises Smokey, but will run to her if Smokey has
hurt herself. She'll even give her a couple of reassuring licks.

> Tweed
Christine Burel - 10 Jan 2005 04:23 GMT
Wow!  What a smart Boy!  Give him scritches for his thoughtfulness!  Hope
KFC realizes what a good friend she has.
Christine

> I've said before how Kitty FC cannot miaow - or at least, she opens her
> mouth and I don't hear her.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Tweed
 
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