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Bubbel Shoulder
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Yowie - 02 Jan 2005 00:21 GMT My shoulder is sore.
I went tot he physio to try to have it fixed. He said it was a relatively common problem that people who start computing discover. It occurs in the arm that they use the mouse with.
I have been using computers for <mumble> years, so its unlikely to be normal computer use.
"Have you been using hte computer more than usual? Does it involve alot of mouse movement?"
Well, there's only one thing that has attracted extra computer use: Bubbels. And yes, its mouse movement.
So thanks to Bev and her insidious Bubbel game, I now have "Bubbel Shoulder"
But am I going to give it up?
Oh, how I wish!!!
Yowie
Cheryl - 02 Jan 2005 03:43 GMT > Well, there's only one thing that has attracted extra computer > use: Bubbels. And yes, its mouse movement. > > So thanks to Bev and her insidious Bubbel game, I now have > "Bubbel Shoulder" I've been noticing the same thing. More shoulder and neck pain than usual. Stupid game. hehe
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Bev - 02 Jan 2005 04:08 GMT > > Well, there's only one thing that has attracted extra computer > > use: Bubbels. And yes, its mouse movement. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > -- > Cheryl Do you know, I have something called bubbel wrist. It is serious but I intend to cope bravely with the pain!!!
Bev
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Monique Y. Mudama - 02 Jan 2005 04:35 GMT > So thanks to Bev and her insidious Bubbel game, I now have "Bubbel Shoulder" For years, I've gotten a cramp in my neck/trap area whenever I'm on the computer a lot. I honestly don't know what I'm doing, but it's worse when I play games. Does it stop me? *sigh*
I use a trackball, not a mouse, because mice definitely hurt my wrist. I am the master of hotkeys rather than mouse usage. But unfortunately, not everything can be done that way.
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jmcquown - 02 Jan 2005 10:54 GMT >> So thanks to Bev and her insidious Bubbel game, I now have "Bubbel >> Shoulder" [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > wrist. I am the master of hotkeys rather than mouse usage. But > unfortunately, not everything can be done that way. Thank goodness I never got into games in a big way. But I, too, am a hotkey master. I tried a trackball but didn't notice any appreciable lessoning of movement; I still have carpal tunnel syndrome. I just try not to use the mouse unless absolutely necessary.
Jill
Monique Y. Mudama - 02 Jan 2005 17:29 GMT >>> So thanks to Bev and her insidious Bubbel game, I now have "Bubbel >>> Shoulder" [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > movement; I still have carpal tunnel syndrome. I just try not to use the > mouse unless absolutely necessary. As far as I know, I've never had CTS (knock on wood). My wrists are fine as long as I have support so that I don't have to angle them up to type or mouse. It's kind of amazing, considering that during and since college, I've spent more hours in front of the computer than doing anything else, by a long shot. I use a trackball that I manipulate with my index finger; IMO the thumb-based ones are awful. Also, I've recently started using a wrist pad with it, so that my hand doesn't have to elevate as much.
I had a CS professor who blamed her CTS on the advent of the mouse, which may have influenced my tendency to prefer console apps and gui apps with lots of hotkeys. Even in games, I customize keystrokes as much as possible so that my most commonly used actions are on the keyboard.
I had wrist problems all of this past year, and everyone but me was sure it was CTS. Turns out that your carpal tunnels are actually a specific part of the wrist. Fortunately, after spending gobs of money on physical therapy (that didn't help at all), x-rays and MRIs, a simple steroid shot seems to have worked, though it hurt incredibly for about a day, and was sore for a while after that.
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CatNipped - 02 Jan 2005 17:27 GMT > >>> So thanks to Bev and her insidious Bubbel game, I now have "Bubbel > >>> Shoulder" [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > worked, though it hurt incredibly for about a day, and was sore for a while > after that. Just a warning (that hopefully won't apply to you, Monique) - but I was having steroid shots in my elbow - OW, like when you hit your "funny bone" but the pain lasts for a week. The problem was that the shot was just masking the pain and I was injuring my elbow even more because I couldn't feel the pain which makes you stop doing whatever it is that is causing the pain. After about 5 or 6 weeks the pain would come back even worse so I had to go get another shot which started the cycle all over again. I finally just gritted by teeth, and did the physical therapy my GP recommended at home (instead of paying thousands of dollars on PT - I used a can of peas!!).
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CatNipped
> -- > monique, roommate of Oscar the (female) grouch > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Eros was adopted! Eros has a home now! *cheer!* Monique Y. Mudama - 02 Jan 2005 18:10 GMT > Just a warning (that hopefully won't apply to you, Monique) - but I was > having steroid shots in my elbow - OW, like when you hit your "funny bone" [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > home (instead of paying thousands of dollars on PT - I used a can of > peas!!). Well, I continued not to do anything with my wrist for a few weeks and had a followup dr's visit after a month. He cleared me to do anything I'd like, and told me that soreness would probably just be a result of unused muscles getting back to work.
It's been almost exactly two months now. Of course, if the pain returns, I'll be right back at the doctor's. He said that if steroid shots don't help, he'd have to do some surgery to find the problem, because the MRI didn't show anything. So I'm hoping, for many reasons, that it's really all better.
I did 6 or 8 sessions of physical therapy before trying the shot route. The physical therapy didn't help at all, and I couldn't do the exercises at home because my wrist was so tender that they hurt. The physical therapist was just trying to get the inflammation down enough to identify the culprit, but nothing she tried would work. She finally said that there wasn't any point in doing the sessions if I was experiencing literally no progress. The steroid shot finally did kill it. My ortho doctor suggested it could have been a tiny bit of scar tissue, and apparently the steroid shot would have helped it heal as well as helping the pain.
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Yowie - 02 Jan 2005 10:55 GMT > > So thanks to Bev and her insidious Bubbel game, I now have "Bubbel Shoulder" > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the master of hotkeys rather than mouse usage. But unfortunately, not > everything can be done that way. In one of the ancient computers I had, it had a huge trackball. I liked it so much more than the mouse for almost everything besides having to draw. No wires to get tangled, no desk to run out of, always exactly where you put it last, and not subject to the attentions of a curious kitten!
Yes, I'm a fan of trackballs - I had almost forgotten them though.
Yowie
Monique Y. Mudama - 02 Jan 2005 17:37 GMT > In one of the ancient computers I had, it had a huge trackball. I liked it > so much more than the mouse for almost everything besides having to draw. No > wires to get tangled, no desk to run out of, always exactly where you put it > last, and not subject to the attentions of a curious kitten! > > Yes, I'm a fan of trackballs - I had almost forgotten them though. Mine is a wireless logitech. There aren't a lot of wireless trackballs floating around, but my desk is cluttered enough without wires all over. I like the ones that allow you to spin the ball with your forefinger; the thumb ones are just annoying.
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Yowie - 02 Jan 2005 21:07 GMT > > In one of the ancient computers I had, it had a huge trackball. I liked it > > so much more than the mouse for almost everything besides having to draw. No [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > like the ones that allow you to spin the ball with your forefinger; the thumb > ones are just annoying. The one I used tohave was *huge*, was an index-finger typee, and was inbedded in he keyboard where the numberpad usually is. it was really good!
Yowie
Jean Hobbs - 03 Jan 2005 04:57 GMT I'm so glad I never got to play the bubbel game, I have enough trouble with my shoulders, listening to you all talking about this game, I never dared to ask how to get it as I was afraid I might get hooked, now I guess I'm the lucky one LOL Jean.P.
> > > So thanks to Bev and her insidious Bubbel game, I now have "Bubbel > Shoulder" [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Yowie mlbriggs - 02 Jan 2005 05:30 GMT > My shoulder is sore. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Yowie Did he say carpel tunnel syndrome?
Ginger-lyn Summer - 02 Jan 2005 18:48 GMT >My shoulder is sore. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Yowie Well, *that* explains it! ;-)
Ginger-lyn wondering if we can do cyber massage online for our bubbel players . . .
Bev - 03 Jan 2005 02:18 GMT > >My shoulder is sore. > > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > wondering if we can do cyber massage online for our bubbel players . . > . My last doubled score 62,090 so I'm getting better, lol.
Bev
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