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Victor Martinez - 30 Dec 2004 23:41 GMT So, we're thinking of getting an exercise machine. This one looks like a good choice, albeit an expensive one: http://www.treadclimber.com/products/tc5000.asp does anybody have any experience with this or any other cardio equipment you would recommend?
Victor, who swears this is not a new year's resolution
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CatNipped - 31 Dec 2004 00:05 GMT > So, we're thinking of getting an exercise machine. This one looks like a > good choice, albeit an expensive one: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Victor, who swears this is not a new year's resolution I got a treadmill from Sears - it has an "incline" feature - and an exercycle from an athletic store. These two things are great for cardio, but if you want strength or weight training then you're on the right "track"! ;>
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CatNipped
> -- > Victor M. Martinez > Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) > Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov > Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com CatNipped - 31 Dec 2004 00:23 GMT Oh, sorry, my bad. I saw Bowflex and I thought of those weight-lifting type thingies. I didn't realize this *was* a treadmill.
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CatNipped
> > So, we're thinking of getting an exercise machine. This one looks like a > > good choice, albeit an expensive one: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov > > Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com ---MIKE--- - 31 Dec 2004 00:26 GMT If you want to lose weight - forget exercise. One hour on a machine like that will burn between 400 and 500 calories - about equivalent to eating one Snickers bar. The only way to lose weight is to eat less. You can combat the hunger by eating lots of vegetables. A salad containing broccoli, cucumber, tomatoes, peppers and lettuce would be a good start. Use a fat free dressing. For exercise, get a good pair of boots (or sneakers) and go for fast walks (3 to 4 MPH). I did two miles today and the temperature was below freezing. My pulse was 132 when I got home so I got good cardio from the walk. I have shed about 20 pounds since last spring but it was not the exercise that did it!
---MIKE---
Bill Stock - 31 Dec 2004 01:51 GMT > If you want to lose weight - forget exercise. One hour on a machine > like that will burn between 400 and 500 calories - about equivalent to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > ---MIKE--- I do about an hour a day on the treadmill (600 calories), which doesn't do much for weight loss. But it does increase your muscle mass, which will increase your metabolism and help keep the weight off. Unfortuantely I wrecked my back about 15 years ago, so running is out of the question for me. I do about 3.5 miles a day, so this is the same as your 3-4 mph.
The diet definately helps. I went low carb about two years ago (been falling off the wagon lately) lost 40 pounds and kept it off. I found it was more about eating fewer processed foods (flour/sugar) and eating more vegetables. Rather than the bacon/steak crap the media rants about. The GI diet/lifestyle probably makes more sense.
Sherry - 31 Dec 2004 05:34 GMT >The diet definately helps. I went low carb about two years ago (been falling >off the wagon lately) lost 40 pounds and kept it off. I found it was more >about eating fewer processed foods (flour/sugar) and eating more vegetables. >Rather than the bacon/steak crap the media rants about. The GI >diet/lifestyle probably makes more sense. You'll lose weight on the heart-healthy diet. You probably won't like it though. I can't keep enough weight ON. I've learned to like that fat-free stuff, for the most part though. Except for the fake eggs. Sherry
Bill Stock - 31 Dec 2004 17:30 GMT > >The diet definately helps. I went low carb about two years ago (been > >falling [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > the fake eggs. > Sherry I'm not looking to lose more weight really, although I should probably do another 10 pounds. But I know I would not keep it off. My BMI is about 23 now, so it's not too bad.
Ackkkk, rubber eggs.
Victor Martinez - 31 Dec 2004 03:38 GMT > If you want to lose weight - forget exercise. One hour on a machine It's not only about losing weight, it's also about being fit, having a good cardiovascular system going.
> like that will burn between 400 and 500 calories - about equivalent to > eating one Snickers bar. The only way to lose weight is to eat less. I don't eat snickers or other processed candies... :) Actually, there is only 1 way to lose weight: burn more calories than you ingest. Period. You can do this by either limiting your caloric intake, or by increasing the calories you burn. By exercising, you not only burn calories during your workouts, you also increase muscle mass, which consumes more calories while at rest.
> You can combat the hunger by eating lots of vegetables. A salad I try (and for the most part do) eat a very healthy diet. I don't eat processed foods or fast food.
> good start. Use a fat free dressing. For exercise, get a good pair of > boots (or sneakers) and go for fast walks (3 to 4 MPH). I did two miles We used to walk each morning, but it's harder when it's cold outside!
> today and the temperature was below freezing. My pulse was 132 when I > got home so I got good cardio from the walk. I have shed about 20 > pounds since last spring but it was not the exercise that did it! But you just said you go for walks! I'm sure it's a combination of both.
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 31 Dec 2004 09:21 GMT Piggybacking here...
>http://www.treadclimber.com/products/tc5000.asp For me, the best exercise machine money can buy is a bicycle. I use it almost everyday for things such as trips to the post office, the bank, light shopping - and I'm exercising without even trying! For the amount of money that treadclimber costs you could get a seriously good bike which is much more practical than a treadmill. Indeed, both you & Tom could get a decent bike each for that amount & go out leisure cycling together.
Plus, if the idea of the exercise is to lose weight - exercise alone won't do this. It'll trim you up and increase fitness but you also must control calories too in the form of a healthy, balanced, low-calorie diet.
At home, we all have bikes and we have a multi-gym in the garage. The multi-gym is Nathan's which he uses to compliment his cycling. But even he prefers to be out on his bike - much nicer being out in the fresh air than getting all sweaty indoors ;-)
When I first got back on the bike, I couldn't cycle five miles without getting off several times to get my breath. Now I can cycle a century - albeit slowly at my own pace. I am, however, still overweight. But, in the last four weeks I've dropped 14lbs (even over the Christmas) by controlling what goes into my mouth *strictly* as well as exercising. Mind you, although I'm overweight, my blood pressure is *excellent* and all the other stuff docs associate with obesity, such as insulin resistance, cholesterol etc., mine are all well within normal tolerances, which seemed to physically upset one of the docs at the practice I use as to him all overweight people are depressed, about to have a heart attack any second, if not a stroke, get diabetes, as well as having no sense of self-worth or self-control... sigh! The good bloodwork results are. I'm sure, largely due to the fact I do exercise. The current weight-loss drive is due to the fact I'm entered into a 2.5 day cycle event in France, in May, which is not a race, but has time limits by which the event must be completed. In order to do it within the time limits I *need* to shift excess weight so I can be speedier on the bike.
Remember - if cycling is good enough for Lance Armstrong, it's good enough ;-)
Cheers, helen s
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Howard Berkowitz - 31 Dec 2004 13:36 GMT > Piggybacking here... > [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] > > Cheers, helen s Sometimes, however, it's simply not a mechanically good idea. I indeed may be restoring an old bike to run errands, but my legs and ankles are not up to extended pedaling. After coronary bypass surgery, the removal of the vein graft in my left leg interfered with lymphatic return, and, with certain blood pressure drugs, causes fluid to pool.
I've broken both ankles at various times, my left a couple of times with ligament damage on the right. For me, a rowing machine or circuit weight training is simpler. Impact isn't an issue with a bicycle, but repetitive lower leg movement is.
---MIKE--- - 31 Dec 2004 14:26 GMT Bicycles are fine when the weather cooperates but not too good when it rains. When the roads are snow covered (like now) a bike could be dangerous. One of the secrets of dieting is to allow yourself a time off. Mine is Sunday breakfast. I take my Fosamax when I get up and wait at least an hour. Then I have a cheese omelet, three strips of bacon and an english muffin amply covered with margarine (Olivio). Then, in order to get my fiber, I munch on a handful of Fiber One cereal. I call this my sin breakfast!
---MIKE---
dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 07 Jan 2005 11:22 GMT >Bicycles are fine when the weather cooperates but not too good when it >rains. Sorry - totally wrong. I cycle in the rain, as to husband & son and we wear appropriate clothing. Cycling in the rain can be extremely invigorating and fun and *dry*. Admittedly I wouldn't cycle in a monsoon, but I wouldn't be driving in one either ;-) The only time I don't like cycling is when there's a strong headwind. Other than that I adore cycling and have fun with it, as do the rest of the family.
> When the roads are snow covered (like now) a bike could be >dangerous. Indeed - as can any form of transport. Just as you can get snow tyres for cars you can too for cycles. One of the reasons I was bought a recumbent trike for Christmas is that it is more stable in icy conditions than an upright bike. It's also great fun by the way.
Cheers, helen s
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Victor Martinez - 31 Dec 2004 19:03 GMT > For me, the best exercise machine money can buy is a bicycle. I use it almost We have a bicycle and I used to ride all day when I was a boy. I'm not attracted to cycling anymore... just the cute guys in bicycle pants! :)
> everyday for things such as trips to the post office, the bank, light shopping Those things are not doable here, our cities here are designed for cars, not pedestrians or bicycles.
> Plus, if the idea of the exercise is to lose weight - exercise alone won't do > this. It'll trim you up and increase fitness but you also must control calories > too in the form of a healthy, balanced, low-calorie diet. We do eat a healthy diet, but we've fallen into a non-exercise routine that is not boding well for our bodies. I'm doing yoga as often as I can, usually 2 or 3 times per week, but I need something else. Tom hasn't exercised properly in many years, though he has a much faster metabolism than I do.
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers - 31 Dec 2004 19:35 GMT >We have a bicycle and I used to ride all day when I was a boy. I'm not >attracted to cycling anymore... just the cute guys in bicycle pants! :) Well if you get out there, you can watch them all ;-)
>Those things are not doable here, our cities here are designed for cars, >not pedestrians or bicycles. We have cars, trucks, buses on the roads too, Victor ;-) UK cities are definitely not designed with the cyclist uppermost in mind. I wish they were. Various places on mainland Europe are a different matter though.
Cheers, helen s
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Stormin Mormon - 03 Jan 2005 19:29 GMT I had to go back and read this. Baha, is your Gaydar going off, here?
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
> For me, the best exercise machine money can buy is a bicycle. I use it almost We have a bicycle and I used to ride all day when I was a boy. I'm not attracted to cycling anymore... just the cute guys in bicycle pants! :)
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Seanette Blaylock - 03 Jan 2005 20:02 GMT "Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61-#spamblock*-@hotmail.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Exercise machine (Paging Baha!) :
>I had to go back and read this. Baha, is your Gaydar going off, here? Victor's always in the time I've been here been very open about his orientation. We hear a good deal about his long-time partner, Tom. :-)
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I'm not attracted to cycling anymore... just the cute guys in bicycle pants! :)
Elise - 31 Dec 2004 02:05 GMT > So, we're thinking of getting an exercise machine. This one looks like a > good choice, albeit an expensive one: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Victor, who swears this is not a new year's resolution No experience to offer but I just read somewhere (darned if I can remember where) that a stair climber with the actual revolving steps gives a better workout because it forces you through the full range of motion (actually lifting each foot and putting it back down rather than just shifting your weight from one leg to the other). The advantage of a stair climber type machine is that it probably has the smallest footprint of all the cardio machines.
I intend to have a treadmill someday soon. We should be moving in February to a house of our very own (provided the bank doesn't change it's mind about lending us lots of money!) and I will finally have room for one.
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Howard Berkowitz - 31 Dec 2004 02:30 GMT > > So, we're thinking of getting an exercise machine. This one looks like > > a [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > it's mind about lending us lots of money!) and I will finally have room > for one. As long as we're off topic, does anyone know if aerobic rowing machines, preferably that will fold (to go under a couch) or stand on end are still made? I remember them available for home use, but now I only see them in cardiac rehab/physical therapy or a few large health clubs.
Leg-oriented aerobic machines aren't good for me, for an assortment of physical reasons. I also know, from gym experience, I'll get on a rowing machine and use it. I have a decent home weight setup, again from experience that I'll only do aerobics if I also do strength training -- and I'm known to do that at an aerobic pace.
Susan M - 01 Jan 2005 08:20 GMT Don't know about this specific machine but my husband swears by his Bowflex weight machine. I gave him a tight sweater for Christmas "To: Bowflex Man". Looks like a good idea.
Happy sweating.
Susan M otis and chester who all know that it isn't a new year's resolution
> So, we're thinking of getting an exercise machine. This one looks like a > good choice, albeit an expensive one: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Victor, who swears this is not a new year's resolution
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