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Lucy's Mom - 23 Feb 2010 13:50 GMT
Hi All,

There seems to be some issues with my employer regarding our use of
Facebook and other social media, so until they get their heads out of
you-know-where and into the current century,  I'll have to bow out.
I've been recieving y'alls invites and would love to participate but
we need my job.  AFAIK, the occassional usenet post hasn't been
outlawed yet but that could change.

I'm so sorry..
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 23 Feb 2010 18:50 GMT
> Hi All,
>
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>
> I'm so sorry..

Considering how much easier those "social media" make identity theft,
IMO your employer has the right idea!  Laying your home computer open to
any hacker with the inclination to work mischief with your personal
information is your own business - doing the same when you post from an
employer's computer network is something else again.
Adrian - 23 Feb 2010 20:46 GMT
>> Hi All,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> information is your own business - doing the same when you post from an
> employer's computer network is something else again.

In what way does "social media" lay open a computer to any hacker?

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jmcquown - 23 Feb 2010 23:09 GMT
>>> Hi All,
>>>
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>
> In what way does "social media" lay open a computer to any hacker?

Hackers are everywhere.  And does such a thing belong in the workplace?
Nope.  That's not what the employer is paying the employees to do.

Jill
Jack Campin - bogus address - 24 Feb 2010 00:53 GMT
> In what way does "social media" lay open a computer to any hacker?

In the case of Facebook, the add-on applications, which can do almost
anything to your computer.

Twitter doesn't have that risk, but it can reveal more than you intend
about your social network.

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Yowie - 24 Feb 2010 02:17 GMT
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
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> workplace? Nope.  That's not what the employer is paying the
> employees to do.

Such pages are blocked here at work because they are not relevant to our
company's core business ideals, and are big timewasters. As much as its
annoying, I have to agree with my employer on this - if they let me had
Facebook here, even the cut down, no applications Facebook, I'd still spend
a large amount of their time playing with it rather than doing the stuff I"m
paid to do.  Fair enough, really.

Yowie
Jofirey - 24 Feb 2010 03:40 GMT
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
> Yowie

Much as I hate "big brother" employers, I have to agree.  It was a
problem for me when I was self-employed and worked alone a good part
of the time.  Just too easy to get involved in the computer and
forget time.  Even worse when I was nearing retirement and moved the
office into my home.  Once I had a computer and a kitchen it was hard
to get anything done.

Jo
Kelly Greene - 23 Feb 2010 23:16 GMT
> In what way does "social media" lay open a computer to any hacker?

It doesn't.

Anyone without a good firewall and anti-virus on their PC is a fool.

Also, only a fool posts personal information online.
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 24 Feb 2010 20:07 GMT
>>> Hi All,
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> In what way does "social media" lay open a computer to any hacker?

From what I've heard and read about them, they have totally inadequate
safeguards to protect the information of people using them (or the
computers used to post to them).  Consequently the computers used become
more accessible to hackers and mischief-making viruses than any security
conscious business would choose.

Don't you get TV news, where you are?  They are always reporting on
incidents involving incautious use of Facebook, Twitter, and similar
sites, and advising "common sense" precautions if you MUST use them.
(Some people aren't terribly careful what personal info they reveal on
newsgroups, either.)

Unfortunately, all the rest of the world is NOT honest.  When posting to
the internet, people may pretend to be anything or anyone they choose.
We have no guarantees that anyone we "meet" online is who he/she SAYS
they are.  (There ARE sexual predators out there who prey upon naive
children, and con-artists who target similarly clueless adults.)  One
frequently reads about some tragically lonely person (most often a
woman) who "falls in love" online, becomes "engaged" sight unseen, and
proceeds to share financial information, bank account numbers and
whatever else with their cyber "fiancé"!

We may like to think of our fellow posters to rpca as friends, even
though we've never met.  The majority of them probably ARE, and
accepting them as they represent themselves does no harm, so long as we
remember that everything said here is not necessarily the whole truth.
Adrian - 24 Feb 2010 20:51 GMT
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
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> accepting them as they represent themselves does no harm, so long as we
> remember that everything said here is not necessarily the whole truth.

I agree about the incautious posting of information but that doesn't
necessarily open you up to hacking and the sites themselves are no more
susceptible than any others. There are about 250 million users of
facebook and I'm sure the majority have never been hacked.

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Lucys Mom - 25 Feb 2010 00:41 GMT
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
> accepting them as they represent themselves does no harm, so long as we
> remember that everything said here is not necessarily the whole truth.

You're very astute, Evelyn, when you state that what is posted is not
necessarily the entire truth.
hopitus - 25 Feb 2010 04:02 GMT
> >>>> Hi All,
>
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> You're very astute, Evelyn, when you state that what is posted is not
> necessarily the entire truth.

I have been saying for years...since '98, when I got my first
PC...that we can
be whoever and whatever we want on the Net. Lately, I wanna be Gisele
Bundchen
with a hunky NFL hero DH. But those are hard to hold onto no matter
who you are....
jmcquown - 25 Feb 2010 09:11 GMT
On Feb 24, 5:41 pm, Lucys Mom <chiggerra...@gamil.com> wrote:
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
> You're very astute, Evelyn, when you state that what is posted is not
> necessarily the entire truth.

I have been saying for years...since '98, when I got my first
PC...that we can
be whoever and whatever we want on the Net. Lately, I wanna be Gisele
Bundchen
with a hunky NFL hero DH. But those are hard to hold onto no matter
who you are....

I just have to laugh, considering I got my first PC in 1986.  I remember
being so thrilled at it having a 20 mg hard drive and I double-spaced it to
40 mg! LOL.  I can't even remember how slow the modem was.  But there I was,
way back when, talking to people all over the world via Prodigy.  And back
then AOL wasn't a dirty word ;)  My how times have changed.

Jill
hopitus - 25 Feb 2010 15:55 GMT
> On Feb 24, 5:41 pm, Lucys Mom <chiggerra...@gamil.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 67 lines]
>
> Jill

Yeah, they have. Wish I had a nickel for every hard drive I've lost
over the years.
jmcquown - 23 Feb 2010 22:53 GMT
>> Hi All,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> information is your own business - doing the same when you post from an
> employer's computer network is something else again.

I agree, Evelyn!  My former employer in TN had to lock down the firewall and
allow admin-only access to install even work-related software updates
because people kept installing frivilous "chat" software and spending time
online rather than do their jobs.  (This was well before the days of
Facebook & Twitter.)  Get a grip, people, it's not *your* computer!  This
sort of thing doesn't belong in the workplace.  You want to play?  Do it on
your own time.  At home.

Jill
Jofirey - 23 Feb 2010 19:14 GMT
> Hi All,
>
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>
> I'm so sorry..

I'm sorry too.

If I were an employer, facebook would make me awfully nervous too
though.  I'd be uneasy using it myself if I still had other peoples
tax information on my computer.  It doesn't seem to be all that
secure.

We are available at the library though!  Take a peek sometime.

Jo
Kelly Greene - 23 Feb 2010 23:14 GMT
> Hi All,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I'm so sorry..

You need to buy a computer of your own - for at home. They're so cheap now
it's not funny.  :)
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Christine Burel - 24 Feb 2010 15:17 GMT
You can try checking your local library - ours has computers for internet
access if you sign up for it?  In the meantime,
sending purrs.
Christine
> Hi All,
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I'm so sorry..
jmcquown - 24 Feb 2010 18:16 GMT
> You can try checking your local library - ours has computers for internet
> access if you sign up for it?  In the meantime,
> sending purrs.
> Christine

LOL  I'm sorry, but have you ever used a computer at the public library?
They are the slowest things on the planet.  I doubt you could accomplish
much even on your lunch hour ;)

Jill

>> Hi All,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>>
>> I'm so sorry..
hopitus - 27 Feb 2010 00:48 GMT
> "Christine Burel" wrote .
> > You can try checking your local library - ours has computers for internet
> > access if you sign up for it?  In the meantime,
> > sending purrs.
> > Christine

> LOL  I'm sorry, but have you ever used a computer at the public library?
> They are the slowest things on the planet.  I doubt you could accomplish
> much even on your lunch hour ;)
> Jill

> >> Hi All,
> >> There seems to be some issues with my employer regarding our use of
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> >> outlawed yet but that could change.
> >> I'm so sorry..

To Jill re library PC's. You're right, here they are snail-slow, too
and there is
something much more annoying to me common to county libraries here. In
a budget-cutting frenzy, local city gov't has closed *for good* all
libraries in
'hoods I will not go into in broad daylight, much less after dark.
This has as
expected increased by lots people using my local library, the huge
*main*
one. I don't mind the giggling students close enough beside me to
reach out
and touch in the next chair (tune 'em out) and the eaters, drinkers,
smokers
)yeah, they do sneak cigs) equally as close, but last time I waited to
get a
PC spot among such masses of our local "melting pots"citizens, the
large
male next to me, stinking drunk, collapsed, snoring, onto my chair arm
w/o
even waking. I stood up, the chair collapsed (my chair) and he landed
in the
astonished arms of one of the employee monitors. I exited, stage left,
furious
but making not a sound as the usual gigglers shrieked laughing back in
the
PC section.
Here, these people don't go to libraries except for one reason: to get
out of
the subzero weather into the warm seat where they can "sleep it off".
Once
you have a library card, no hoomin interaction necessary to snag a PC
seat.
Betcha don't deal with *that* in S.C., even with current cold wave
back east.
 
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