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Purrs for victims of earthqauke/tsunami disaster

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lewe - 27 Dec 2004 15:17 GMT
what an unfathomable catastrophe it is, already close to 30.000 dead and
counting
I keep picturing the places I have visited in Phuket, Thailand, the sweet
little hotel in the national park on the east coast of Sri Lanka - just on
the beach, the picturesque pole fishers out in the water ...
Kuredu, the Maldive island I have visited several times seems to have come
through no worse for wear, maybe because the water is some 2.000 m deep just
off the island. They just lost phone connections for a couple of hours, but
some other islands were hit more and there are some deaths reported also in
the Maldives - and as far to the west as the east coast of Africa, imagine
the power of those waves ...
I see Britta has checked in, I was hoping you were all safe at home, since
it's not long ago you were away on your diving trip, purrs for your friends.
The accounts of the people being in the middle of it are chilling . The
pictures from Thailand, Sri Lanka, India and Indonesia are so frightening.
So many families viped out, missing members and  relatives and friends.
Millions have lost their homes and livelihood. The tourist season that feed
many is destroyed for many resort areas. Drinking water will be
contaminated, the clean up a nightmare.
Purrs for all the victims, purrs for families, relatives and friends, purrs
for rescue workers and others trying to help.
It will take a lot of work and investment to get the survivors back to their
lifes.
May the Purr be with all.
:: lewe
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jmcquown - 27 Dec 2004 15:56 GMT
> what an unfathomable catastrophe it is, already close to 30.000 dead
> and counting.

> May the Purr be with all.
>>> lewe
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Purrs have been going out steadily.  I have a friend who lives with his wife
in Chiang Mai but he's an avid diver.  I was worried they might be on a dive
trip.  Thankfully not, but they did feel the quake even up in the northern
hill country.

You're right, this is a disaster of epic proportions.  I hope the world will
chip in to help these poor people get their lives back.

Jill
Christine Burel - 27 Dec 2004 17:25 GMT
This is such an unbelievable disaster I can hardly grasp it.  Purrs and
purr-ayers going out to these poor people.
Christine
> what an unfathomable catastrophe it is, already close to 30.000 dead and
> counting
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Yoj - 27 Dec 2004 18:51 GMT
> what an unfathomable catastrophe it is, already close to 30.000 dead and
> counting
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> May the Purr be with all.
> :: lewe

I've never been to any of those places, but I completely agree with you.

Purrs and prayers for all affected by this tragedy.

Joy
Ginger-lyn Summer - 27 Dec 2004 20:23 GMT
>May the Purr be with all.
>:: lewe
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>lewemi at yahoo dot se || cat pics: photos.yahoo.com/lewemi

Adding my purrs to all those affected by this tragedy.

Ginger-lyn
Yowie - 27 Dec 2004 21:05 GMT
> what an unfathomable catastrophe it is, already close to 30.000 dead and
> counting
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> lifes.
> May the Purr be with all.

Amen to that.

I"m waiting to hear of the place to send disaster relief funds. It won't be
much, but I"ll contribute a small amount. It may only buy a few cups of
rice, but that may very well make a huge difference to a family somewhere in
the affected areas.

Yowie
Jeanette - 27 Dec 2004 21:35 GMT
> what an unfathomable catastrophe it is, already close to 30.000 dead and
> counting

It's so awful, so many dead, so many hurt and bereaved.

Jeanette
polonca12000 - 27 Dec 2004 21:42 GMT
Lots of purrs,
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> what an unfathomable catastrophe it is, already close to 30.000 dead and
> counting
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Adrian - 28 Dec 2004 15:31 GMT
<snip>
> May the Purr be with all.

Purrs for all those who have lost loved ones and those that are now
homeless. But why do they have to show dead bodies on every news, we
know thousands of people have died, we don't need to see pictures of
dead children all day long. It's been a rotten end to a rotten year.
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Howard Berkowitz - 28 Dec 2004 18:15 GMT
> <snip>
> > May the Purr be with all.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> know thousands of people have died, we don't need to see pictures of
> dead children all day long. It's been a rotten end to a rotten year.

Let me respond with a hypothetical that strikes to the heart of too much
news coverage. If the US networks ever get permission to televise
execution, Fox will want to do naked executions.

Ironically, this sort of thing doesn't make professional public health
publications, because it conveys no useful information.

[Spoiler space for relevant, but possibly distasteful, public health
observation]

While piles of dead bodies are repellent, if they died of trauma rather
than disease, they generally do not present any substantial epidemic
hazard, especially if they are kept away from water supplies. This has
actually been established fairly recently, by some solid research after
the last major Turkish earthquakes.
Monique Y. Mudama - 28 Dec 2004 20:15 GMT
><snip>
>> May the Purr be with all.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> thousands of people have died, we don't need to see pictures of dead
> children all day long. It's been a rotten end to a rotten year.

I just don't understand the mentality of someone who would run up to a
grieving parent and snap pictures.  Do they have to get permission to print
these?  Is a person who's just undergone a tremendous loss in any mental state
to give such permission?

I think it does help drive home the point, but it's not right to take pictures
of a very personal tragedy.

There's something else I don't get.  There are newspapers with two or three
articles on the tragedy, but not one has a phone number to call for donations.
These are today's newspapers; surely there are charities already set up for
something like this?  Surely the newspapers could take a single line of print
to put a donation phone number in the first line of the article?

I'm lazy, but I'd like to help.  Newspapers could get a lot of lazy people
like me to donate if they'd just make it easy!

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Sherry - 28 Dec 2004 21:39 GMT
>I just don't understand the mentality of someone who would run up to a
>grieving parent and snap pictures.  Do they have to get permission to print
>these?  

Newspapers don't have to have permission to photograph/print wailing, grieving
people or dead bodies. Being fiercly personal about stuff like that, I think
it's in very poor taste. Photos like that, however, win awards nearly every
time. Ugh. It's just something our society has cultivated.

Sherry
Monique Y. Mudama - 28 Dec 2004 21:56 GMT
>>I just don't understand the mentality of someone who would run up to a
>>grieving parent and snap pictures.  Do they have to get permission to print
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> that, I think it's in very poor taste. Photos like that, however, win awards
> nearly every time. Ugh. It's just something our society has cultivated.

Very poor taste.  I don't actually subscribe to any newspapers; I just see
them when I go to get lunch.  But maybe I'll figure out which I see and mail
them a piece of my mind.

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lewe - 28 Dec 2004 23:30 GMT
> There's something else I don't get.  There are newspapers with two or three
> articles on the tragedy, but not one has a phone number to call for donations.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I'm lazy, but I'd like to help.  Newspapers could get a lot of lazy people
> like me to donate if they'd just make it easy!

It's easy to make donations online, practically all humanitarian
organisations are collecting funds to help with this tragedy.
As they do in Sweden, I suppose all of them have their local/national
websites too.
Here are a few to start with:

Doctors Without Borders/M?decins Sans Fronti?res
www.doctorswithoutborders.org
www.msf.org

Amercan Red Cross
http://www.redcross.org/

Save the Children
http://www.savethechildren.org

:: lewe
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Monique Y. Mudama - 28 Dec 2004 23:41 GMT
> It's easy to make donations online, practically all humanitarian
> organisations are collecting funds to help with this tragedy.  As they do in
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Save the Children http://www.savethechildren.org

Thank you; this helps eliminate my laziness factor =)

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Jo Firey - 29 Dec 2004 01:21 GMT
>> It's easy to make donations online, practically all humanitarian
>> organisations are collecting funds to help with this tragedy.  As they do
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Thank you; this helps eliminate my laziness factor =)

Just a note, with Red Cross and I'd guess with the others you can specify
that your donation is to go to a particular crisis rather than into their
general fund.

Thank you for the sites.  I always feel better about contributing to a place
where I contact them rather than one that contacts me and may not be what it
seems.

I have a friend who was already on a plane to Paris with M?decins Sans
Fronti?res
by the time I even heard about the earthquake.  I don't know if she will
stay there to coordinate or go on from there to a specific area.

Jo
Christina Websell - 29 Dec 2004 15:43 GMT
>>> It's easy to make donations online, practically all humanitarian
>>> organisations are collecting funds to help with this tragedy.  As they
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Jo

People are already going to the worst hit areas from my home town.  Firemen
who had experience in earthquakes abroad before, and floods, and we are
sending search dogs too, with them..
Britain is sending 15 millions pounds worth of aid up to now, and more if
needed.

Tweed
lewe - 29 Dec 2004 18:11 GMT
> > It's easy to make donations online, practically all humanitarian
> > organisations are collecting funds to help with this tragedy.  As they do in
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Thank you; this helps eliminate my laziness factor =)

you're welcome, here in Sweden we get a lot of information about the tragedy
and how to possibly help with donations and otherwise, it's in printed
papers, on news websites, on teletext and there are people going around
collecting in shops/on streets. Since the Sunday we have half-hourly extra
newscasts on PBS TV and so on.

A lot of Swedish tourists are missing and killed - as from our neighbouring
Nordic countries Norway, Finland and Denmark. Most of these were vacationing
in Thailand and some in Sri Lanka. Some 30.000 Swedish nationals are
estimated to have been in the area and around 1.500 are not yet accounted
for (we are about 9 million inhabitants in Sweden). Thailand especially have
been a very popular place for vacations for us in our winter, I spent
Christmas and New Year's at Kata Beach in Phuket myself six years ago.

In one of the worst affected resorts in Thailand, Khao Lak, mainly Swedish
and German tourists were staying and several hundreds of those are still
missing. I know other countries with lots of tourists to Thailand are
France, the UK and Australia, I remember also diving with some people from
the US and other countries when I was there, I'm sure a great number of
nationalities have been directly affected.

Here in Sweden there are children arriving back here without parents,
parents who have lost children and people missing spouses and friends, it's
unreal. And many who are hurt that need sick transport back, they are in too
bad shape to manage the long trip except on a breach and with medical
attention.

And then again, it's so much worse for those stricken countries and all the
people there who have lost family and loved ones and also their homes,
fishing boats and means of supporting themselves. The estimation for
Indonesia alone seem to get up to around 80.000 dead now so there clearly
must be a lot more than 100.000 killed totally. And the hardest stricken
areas are already troubled by civil war and/or poverty.

So expressions like "the worst disaster of our time" is no understatement.
But how can you understand something like that?

I understand a day of national mourning will be called for here in Sweden on
New Year's day. Even by then I am sure it won't be clear how many really
lost their lives in this tragedy.

:: lewe
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Monique Y. Mudama - 29 Dec 2004 18:17 GMT
A friend of mine pointed out that you can donate to the Red Cross SE Asia
relief fund from the front page of amazon.com

I'm doing that right now.

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SUQKRT - 29 Dec 2004 20:01 GMT
>Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières
>www.doctorswithoutborders.org
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
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>lewemi at yahoo dot se || cat pics: photos.yahoo.com/lewemi

Thanks.
Suz
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Karen - 29 Dec 2004 20:13 GMT
I also donated to http://www.unicefusa.org/ as they have a direct donation
to the tsunami fund.

> >Doctors Without Borders/M?decins Sans Fronti?res
> >www.doctorswithoutborders.org
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> (=':'=)
> (")_(")
Victor Martinez - 29 Dec 2004 21:35 GMT
> It's easy to make donations online, practically all humanitarian
> organisations are collecting funds to help with this tragedy.

Thanks, I just made a donation. I wish I was able to contribute more.

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Krista - 30 Dec 2004 05:53 GMT
> It's easy to make donations online, practically all humanitarian
> organisations are collecting funds to help with this tragedy.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Save the Children
> http://www.savethechildren.org

Thanks, Lena; I will do this.  It's hard to comprehend the extent of
this disaster; I want to say we're sending purrs but that doesn't begin
to be adequate.

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Krista
Krista - 30 Dec 2004 05:56 GMT
> It's easy to make donations online, practically all humanitarian
> organisations are collecting funds to help with this tragedy.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Save the Children
> http://www.savethechildren.org

Thanks, Lena; I will do this.  It's hard to comprehend the extent of
this disaster; I want to say we're sending purrs but that doesn't begin
to be adequate.

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Krista
Krista - 30 Dec 2004 06:18 GMT
> It's easy to make donations online, practically all humanitarian
> organisations are collecting funds to help with this tragedy.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Save the Children
> http://www.savethechildren.org

Thanks, Lena; I will do this.  It's hard to comprehend the extent of
this disaster; I want to say we're sending purrs but that doesn't begin
to be adequate.

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Krista
Krista - 30 Dec 2004 06:19 GMT
> It's easy to make donations online, practically all humanitarian
> organisations are collecting funds to help with this tragedy.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Save the Children
> http://www.savethechildren.org

Thanks, Lena; I will do this.  It's hard to comprehend the extent of
this disaster; I want to say we're sending purrs but that doesn't begin
to be adequate.

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Krista
Krista - 30 Dec 2004 06:20 GMT
> It's easy to make donations online, practically all humanitarian
> organisations are collecting funds to help with this tragedy.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Save the Children
> http://www.savethechildren.org

Thanks, Lena; I will do this.  It's hard to comprehend the extent of
this disaster; I want to say we're sending purrs but that doesn't begin
to be adequate.

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Krista
CatNipped - 30 Dec 2004 15:17 GMT
lewe wrote:

> > It's easy to make donations online, practically all humanitarian
> > organisations are collecting funds to help with this tragedy.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> > Save the Children
> > http://www.savethechildren.org

> Thanks, Lena; I will do this.  It's hard to comprehend the extent of
> this disaster; I want to say we're sending purrs but that doesn't begin
> to be adequate.

Krista, you seem to have developed a stutter!!  ;>

Hugs,

CatNipped

> ------
> Krista
SUQKRT - 31 Dec 2004 00:26 GMT
>> It's easy to make donations online, practically all humanitarian
>> organisations are collecting funds to help with this tragedy.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> Save the Children
>> http://www.savethechildren.org

Krista responeded:
>Thanks, Lena; I will do this.  It's hard to comprehend the extent of
>this disaster; I want to say we're sending purrs but that doesn't begin
>to be adequate.
>
>--

I was watching the BBC Worldnews (helps me stay informed), they said that
Sweden had the largest number of tourists in the areas of the diaster and that
1400 of them could be lost. This is in a country with a population of 8mil.
Suz
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lewe - 31 Dec 2004 02:04 GMT
> I was watching the BBC Worldnews (helps me stay informed), they said that
> Sweden had the largest number of tourists in the areas of the diaster and that
> 1400 of them could be lost. This is in a country with a population of 8mil.

yes, seems like Sweden might be the hardest hit of the countries outside the
disaster area. And even if we actually are 9 mil now, the number of people
from Sweden mentioned *missing* today which is about 2.500 seems a lot for a
rather small country so far away from the stricken region. Neighbouring
Norway which also is a small country also has more than 400 missing, Denmark
and Finland's figures are a lower, but still striking small nations very
hard .

Our PM mentioned today for the first time that more than 1.000 Swedish
nationals are feared  dead, and the official line has up to now been not to
mention numbers and not reporting any deaths unless confirmed by proper ID
procedure (only 44 confirmed today). So even if most people already expect
much higher numbers, it kind of gets more real when it's said also from the
government's side.

I think I mentioned before that New Year's Day has been called a day of
national mourning in Sweden and there will be extra efforts for fund raising
even if people here like elsewhere already are giving more than ever before.
Municipalities/cities are cancelling New Year's celebrations and fireworks
and instead sending money to help the victims. Government is redirecting
aid, and has announced it will also in the longer perspective to help
rebuild the area. Companies also give money and also supplies, clothes have
been given for people to wear coming back home - some have had nothing left
but swimsuits, coming back to Swedish winter.

I just hope the help in to the region can be sped up so that people can at
least get food and water in the worst hit areas - and of course antibiotics
and other medical supplies to save the survivors, many who suffer from badly
infected wounds. And that sick tourists can be transported to their home
countries so that they don't take up medical resources much needed for the
local populations.

:: lewe
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Marina - 31 Dec 2004 04:58 GMT
> "SUQKRT" wrote

>>I was watching the BBC Worldnews (helps me stay informed), they said that
>>Sweden had the largest number of tourists in the areas of the diaster and
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and Finland's figures are a lower, but still striking small nations very
> hard .

The estimates are going up all the time, 263 Finns are still missing
(our population is 5 mil). We will also have a day of mourning on New
Year's day, and many cities are donating the money for celebrations and
fireworks to S Asia. I know some people from my department often spend
their Yule season down there. I hope they're all alright. Our former
Minister of Finance was there, but saved himself and his two sons
(mother died in a car crash a few years ago) by hanging on to a
telephone pole. He was on the news the other day, along with our
Minister of Foreign Affairs. He criticized our authorities for being too
slow with our aid to Finnish nationals, and commended the Thais for
their efficient work at the scenes. As much as I hated him when he was
minister, I had to chuckle when he called for more money and material
aid to be sent down there, since when he was the Finance Minister he
proposed huge cutbacks, especially in foreign aid. The shoe's on the
other foot now.

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lewe - 31 Dec 2004 09:14 GMT
> The estimates are going up all the time, 263 Finns are still missing
> (our population is 5 mil). We will also have a day of mourning on New
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> proposed huge cutbacks, especially in foreign aid. The shoe's on the
> other foot now.
?
This morning the number of missing Swedes are mentioned as 3.500. Number of
confirmed deaths still only 44.
Especially numbers for missing people travelling on their own, backpackers
and others, are unsure since some of them might have moved out of the risk
area. Making IDs of all the dead now are basically down to the experts and
that work will go on for months I'm sure. The Swedish leader of the ID team
that went down to help said that in Bali they worked 2 weeks to confirm just
over 10 deaths of Swedish and Danish nationals. I suppose a lot of those
coming to help in this work have experience from the bombing in Bali, the
Australian team leader was interviewed on TV here today too.

The debate is quite "lively" here in Sweden too, especially about what
should have been done faster to help people and so on. Our foreign minister
came back from Thailand today and she, as well as other officials, are
getting a lot of criticism for most anything including going there, while I
hear that in Norway and Finland there's been anger because the foreign
ministers didn't go ...

:: lewe
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Holly - 28 Dec 2004 20:30 GMT
Lots of purrs going out from Pheniox and Sasha

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