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Full disclosure on bathtub incident
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Pat - 18 Dec 2004 17:08 GMT Here's the whole story of how and why the bathtub fell on Pat's head, for those who are interested:
I had to remove the bathtub so I could insulate under it. There's a big hole in the floor under the tub that was initially created to enable pipe repair and later used to accommodate the drain pipe that I broke off the drain line the first time I removed the tub. This hole was letting cold air into the house via the bathroom and kitchen cupboards.
Since I replaced all the under-house copper pipes this past summer with CPVC pipes on the interior walls and ceiling, my intention was to remove the remains of the plumbing under the tub and replace it with something to stop the cold coming in.
The first time I had removed the tub, I forgot that it's attached to a drain pipe going to a septic tank, and just yanked it up and the attachment busted off, leaving a gaping hole in the drain pipe and a few inches of jagged-edged plastic pipe still attached to the metal drain coming out of the bottom of the tub.
I had patched the hole in the drain pipe and employed a chain of discarded radiator hoses from an auto repair shop to fashion a new drain pipe for the tub, with one hose clamped around the remainder of the plastic pipe and the last one fed into a 10' length of grey PVC pipe to carry the bathwater out into the back yard.
Since then my practice has been to leave the tub filled after each bath and re-use the water by dipping it out with a bucket to flush the commode, so as not to overflood the yard.
And so, yesterday, after I had filled the space under the tub up with carpet underlayment foam (rescued from the dumpster of a carpet dealer) I saw that I had broken off the remaining plastic in the drain pipe. I had the tub propped up on a broom handle and was inspecting the damage when something shifted and the steel tub came crashing down, hitting my head in the process.
Now I have to find some kind of hose that will fit snugly inside the steel drain pipe instead of clamping around the plastic that broke off.
Meanwhile, the tub is standing on that broomstick, and I've lost count of how many times Tommy and Billy have run under the tub to see what's going on. I try to keep them out of the bathroom but they often manage to slip in there with me.
Tommy knows something's wrong by the way I scream "GET OUT!!!!" every time he goes under the tub. He hasn't held it against me; last night as soon as I laid down he was on my chest purring his little heart out and gently touching my face with a paw every few minutes. Billy snuggled against my waist also.
The weirdest thing about this whole affair has been the effect it's had on, of all things, my digestive system. That bathtub knocked the crap out of me. Literally.
Normally, each morning I fill up the porcelain throne two or three times; yesterday morning was no exception. Prior to *fixing* the tub, all I had eaten was a small bowl of raisin bran flakes... And yet, right after the head incident (which happened around 4PM) I repeated the morning's performance, and then again around 8 PM the same thing. The rest of the day all I consumed was a few cups of water and a cup of broth, and yet, this morning, once again two flushes were required.
So, I guess you could say, I needed to have the crap knocked outta me!
Thanks for all the concern you folks have expressed. I will try to remember to keep posting for the next few days as time allows, just so you know I haven't keeled over or failed to wake up or something.
Marina - 18 Dec 2004 17:35 GMT > Here's the whole story of how and why the bathtub fell on Pat's head, for > those who are interested: Well, I was dying to know but didn't want to ask. I kept imagining this bathtub falling out of the sky and knocking you out. (It's ok to joke about it now, isn't it? ;) <snip>
> And so, yesterday, after I had filled the space under the tub up with carpet > underlayment foam (rescued from the dumpster of a carpet dealer) I saw that > I had broken off the remaining plastic in the drain pipe. I had the tub > propped up on a broom handle and was inspecting the damage when something > shifted and the steel tub came crashing down, hitting my head in the > process. Owwwwwww! My hair literally stood up when I read this. Ow ow ow.
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> So, I guess you could say, I needed to have the crap knocked outta me! That is really weird!
> Thanks for all the concern you folks have expressed. I will try to remember > to keep posting for the next few days as time allows, just so you know I > haven't keeled over or failed to wake up or something. Yes, you'd better! Purrs that no more serious injuries turn up.
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mlbriggs - 18 Dec 2004 18:53 GMT > Here's the whole story of how and why the bathtub fell on Pat's head, for > those who are interested: [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > to keep posting for the next few days as time allows, just so you know I > haven't keeled over or failed to wake up or something. It seems to me that you need more than a broom handle to hold up a tub. A good book on plumbing repair might also be helpful. It also seems to me that copper pipes would be better than plastic. And while you are at it, try some Keopectate. Purrs that your troubles will soon be solved. MLB
Pat - 18 Dec 2004 22:38 GMT > It seems to me that you need more than a broom handle to hold up a tub. A broom handle has been holding it up for the last 24 hours....?
> And while you are at it, > try some Keopectate. What is it?
mlbriggs - 18 Dec 2004 22:47 GMT >> It seems to me that you need more than a broom handle to hold up a tub. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > What is it? It is for the "dire rear".
Pat - 18 Dec 2004 23:15 GMT > >> And while you are at it, > >> try some Keopectate. > > > > What is it? > It is for the "dire rear". Oh, i see. You think I had diarrhea. But it was not. Not even close.
Pat - 18 Dec 2004 23:15 GMT > good book on plumbing repair might also be helpful. It also seems to me > that copper pipes would be better than plastic. But I already replaced all the plumbing with plastic. See, there aren't any plumbers that will come out to my place. It's just too remote. And even if one would come, I could not pay. So I just did what is easiest for a non-plumber. Using glue is much less intimidating than soldering metal. And plastic fits the budget a lot better than copper.
I was tired of crawling under the house with a tube cutter and replacing split sections of copper with flexibile tubing that kept coming loose when the heat tape came on. After four winters in a row without water in the house, the situation was getting to be a bit tiresome.
Debbie Wilson - 18 Dec 2004 19:02 GMT (snippage)
> underlayment foam (rescued from the dumpster of a carpet dealer) I saw that > I had broken off the remaining plastic in the drain pipe. I had the tub > propped up on a broom handle and was inspecting the damage when something > shifted and the steel tub came crashing down, hitting my head in the > process. OWIE!!! I too had visions of bathtubs plummetting from upper storeys onto your head, but just a few inches is enough to do damage!!! Hope you continue to recover - what a scary incident. And weird effects on your innards too - maybe some kind of shock reaction, or severe stress?
Deb.
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Takayuki - 18 Dec 2004 20:27 GMT >Normally, each morning I fill up the porcelain throne two or three times; >yesterday morning was no exception. Prior to *fixing* the tub, all I had [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >all I consumed was a few cups of water and a cup of broth, and yet, this >morning, once again two flushes were required. Hmmm. This mysterious violation of the conservation of matter sounds like it could hold the key to solving world hunger and finding renewable energy.
Pat - 18 Dec 2004 22:38 GMT > Hmmm. This mysterious violation of the conservation of matter sounds > like it could hold the key to solving world hunger and finding > renewable energy. ??????
I am still alive.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 18 Dec 2004 22:47 GMT > "Takayuki" <Takayuki9z@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> Hmmm. This mysterious violation of the conservation of matter sounds >> like it could hold the key to solving world hunger and finding >> renewable energy.
> ?????? > I am still alive. He just means that you seem to be emitting more material than you're taking in... so *where does it come from*??? :)
Joyce
Howard Berkowitz - 20 Dec 2004 19:26 GMT > >Normally, each morning I fill up the porcelain throne two or three > >times; [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > like it could hold the key to solving world hunger and finding > renewable energy. If you think about it, the tendency to empty one's bowels and bladder is a logical part of the "fight or flight" response, by getting rid of excess weight.
Pat - 21 Dec 2004 04:43 GMT > If you think about it, the tendency to empty one's bowels and bladder is > a logical part of the "fight or flight" response, by getting rid of > excess weight. I've lost ten pounds in the last 4 days. Now if only I could shed 20 more.... I wouldn't have to get rid of all my old clothes!
Adrian - 22 Dec 2004 14:36 GMT >> If you think about it, the tendency to empty one's bowels and >> bladder is a logical part of the "fight or flight" response, by >> getting rid of excess weight. > > I've lost ten pounds in the last 4 days. Now if only I could shed 20 > more.... I wouldn't have to get rid of all my old clothes! There must be easier ways than being hit on the head with a bath tub.
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Pat - 22 Dec 2004 18:37 GMT > > I've lost ten pounds in the last 4 days. Now if only I could shed 20 > > more.... I wouldn't have to get rid of all my old clothes! > > There must be easier ways than being hit on the head with a bath tub. Oh how I wish you were right. I've tried the other ways. They didn't work for me.
CatNipped - 18 Dec 2004 21:39 GMT > Here's the whole story of how and why the bathtub fell on Pat's head, for > those who are interested: <snip>
Oh my, Pat! I'm just now catching up (sheesh, get busy for a little while and suddenly there's 2,000 posts to read!!), so I'll reply to this one instead of your previous post.
OUCHIES!!! Purrs on the way for you poor head!
Hugs,
CatNipped
Christine Burel - 19 Dec 2004 05:57 GMT Heavy Duty Purrs for you, Pat! Please keep posting on how you're doing. gentle hugs, Christine
> Here's the whole story of how and why the bathtub fell on Pat's head, for > those who are interested: [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > to keep posting for the next few days as time allows, just so you know I > haven't keeled over or failed to wake up or something. Pat - 19 Dec 2004 06:06 GMT > Heavy Duty Purrs for you, Pat! Please keep posting on how you're doing. > gentle hugs, > Christine Thanks. I just sent a new post seconds before this one arrived on my newsreader.
Sherry - 19 Dec 2004 06:11 GMT >Thanks. I just sent a new post seconds before this one arrived on my >newsreader. Thanks for posting. I am *so* glad you are okay. BTW, did you see stars? I hit myself in the head with a hammer once and actually saw stars. Just like in the cartoons.
Sherry
Pat - 19 Dec 2004 06:19 GMT > >Thanks. I just sent a new post seconds before this one arrived on my > >newsreader. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I hit myself in the head with a hammer once and actually saw stars. Just like > in the cartoons. Yes, I did.
I could always see them just by pushing on my eyes. Try it if you like "seeing stars" like in the cartoons. It works even without a bang on the head.
Marina - 19 Dec 2004 07:00 GMT > Thanks for posting. I am *so* glad you are okay. > BTW, did you see stars? > I hit myself in the head with a hammer once and actually saw stars. Just like > in the cartoons. I often see stars just by coughing hard or exerting myself in any way. The first time I saw them I could hardly believe it. Like you say, just like in the cartoons. Stars floating around.
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jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 19 Dec 2004 10:09 GMT > I often see stars just by coughing hard or exerting myself in any way. > The first time I saw them I could hardly believe it. Like you say, just > like in the cartoons. Stars floating around. I see them when I sneeze. I never thought of it as stars, though, more like a big flashing light. Though it does have rays extending from it, so yeah, I guess it's like a star.
Does anyone ever get a sensation of flashing lights just before they're falling asleep? I get it if I'm very, very tired. I lie down, close my eyes, and lights start flashing inside my eyelids. Someone once told me that this was mild seizure activity, the brain's cells shooting off electricity. Apparently one is more vulnerable to this when tired. Is there any truth to that?
Joyce
Kreisleriana - 19 Dec 2004 20:26 GMT > > I often see stars just by coughing hard or exerting myself in any way. > > The first time I saw them I could hardly believe it. Like you say, just [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Joyce I've heard that the "near death" experiences people report, of seeing lights, or sensations of moving or of leaving their bodies, are similarly caused by natural brain chemical reactions.
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Marina - 20 Dec 2004 04:33 GMT > > I often see stars just by coughing hard or exerting myself in any way. > > The first time I saw them I could hardly believe it. Like you say, just [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > like a big flashing light. Though it does have rays extending from it, > so yeah, I guess it's like a star. The stars I see are small points of light, just like the real stars in the sky.
> Does anyone ever get a sensation of flashing lights just before they're > falling asleep? I get it if I'm very, very tired. I lie down, close my > eyes, and lights start flashing inside my eyelids. Someone once told me > that this was mild seizure activity, the brain's cells shooting off > electricity. Apparently one is more vulnerable to this when tired. Is > there any truth to that? I don't know, but I do get those flashes of light, too.
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Marina - 19 Dec 2004 07:01 GMT > Thanks for posting. I am *so* glad you are okay. > BTW, did you see stars? > I hit myself in the head with a hammer once and actually saw stars. Just like > in the cartoons. PS The star thing is not the only thing like in the cartoons. "A bathtub fell on me." "I hit myself with a hammer." I'm very very sorry, but ROFL!
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SUQKRT - 20 Dec 2004 18:16 GMT >> Thanks for posting. I am *so* glad you are okay. >> BTW, did you see stars? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >fell on me." "I hit myself with a hammer." I'm very very sorry, but ROFL! Purrs Pat, nausea and lack of appetite are symtoms of a concussion. Been there, not that due to reckless wheelchair driving by me after I got my first electric chair at 19 and by my siblings before that. Dad called me Barney Oldfield after the demolition derby driver. Age has brought caution. Suz Macmoosette =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^=
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Katz - 20 Dec 2004 19:40 GMT Pat, we don't know each other, but your posts made me think that you're a logical candidate for freecycle.org. Have you heard of it? You can give away or get free stuff. It was originally started w/the idea of keeping stuff out of landfills. You just go to the main page, find your local group, & sign up. My local group was just started in August, & has 1200 members. I've been having fun w/it, though, of course, some folks are undependable & will stand you up. :( You might be able to find stuff for your plumbing problems there.
Monique Y. Mudama - 28 Dec 2004 21:18 GMT > Pat, we don't know each other, but your posts made me think that you're a > logical candidate for freecycle.org. Have you heard of it? You can give away [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > having fun w/it, though, of course, some folks are undependable & will stand > you up. :( You might be able to find stuff for your plumbing problems there. freecycle.org is awesome. I have used our local list to get rid of tons of stuff collecting dust in the garage and basement, and I've also received a few goodies.
Our local list does require that you post an offer before posting any requests, but rules may be different in different areas, and honestly I don't think it's hard to find one thing in your household that you don't need and can't sell usefully. (That's the main reason I love freecycle; it lets me get rid of things that aren't worth the trouble of trying to sell. I've even given away opened boxes of tea and coupons I got in the mail. It's a great way of keeping things out of the landfill.)
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Sherry - 28 Dec 2004 21:41 GMT >Our local list does require that you post an offer before posting any >requests, but rules may be different in different areas, and honestly I don't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >given away opened boxes of tea and coupons I got in the mail. It's a great >way of keeping things out of the landfill.) We have freecycle, too. Most of you guys have heard about my guppy dilemma, which is getting worse by the day and I now have three aquariums full of them. Do you think I could get rid on them on freecycle? Sherry
Denise VanDyke - 28 Dec 2004 21:48 GMT >>Our local list does require that you post an offer before posting any >>requests, but rules may be different in different areas, and honestly I don't [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Do you think I could get rid on them on freecycle? > Sherry Considering how many cats, dogs, rabbits, and at least one goat I've seen offered on freecycle locally, I'd say yes. Haven't seen fish yet, but why not?
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Christina Websell - 28 Dec 2004 22:02 GMT > >Our local list does require that you post an offer before posting any >>requests, but rules may be different in different areas, and honestly I [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Do you think I could get rid on them on freecycle? > Sherry Have you tried a local pet shop/aquatic shop?
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Sherry - 28 Dec 2004 22:29 GMT >Have you tried a local pet shop/aquatic shop? > >Tweed Yes, but they only want the males. It's a PITA to separate them, get them into containers, then drive 25 miles to deliver them. (for free, of course).
Sherry
Monique Y. Mudama - 29 Dec 2004 18:27 GMT > We have freecycle, too. Most of you guys have heard about my guppy dilemma, > which is getting worse by the day and I now have three aquariums full of > them. Do you think I could get rid on them on freecycle? Sherry I guess it depends on the rules that your list enforces. If you've seen other pet offers there, then I guess you could. I don't know if you would typically try to figure out if a person would be a good fish owner or whatnot.
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Sherry - 31 Dec 2004 04:38 GMT >I guess it depends on the rules that your list enforces. If you've seen >other >pet offers there, then I guess you could. I don't know if you would >typically >try to figure out if a person would be a good fish owner or whatnot. Guppies are pretty hardy. I guess that's why we started out with three and how have hundreds of them. I just don't want anyone to take them for feeder fish
:-( Sherry
Seanette Blaylock - 30 Dec 2004 01:17 GMT sriddles@aol.comkitty (Sherry ) had some very interesting things to say about Re: Full disclosure on bathtub incident:
>>Our local list does require that you post an offer before posting any >>requests, but rules may be different in different areas, and honestly I don't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >which is getting worse by the day and I now have three aquariums full of them. >Do you think I could get rid on them on freecycle? I see animals offered [or sometimes requested] on my local list. The moderators do periodically remind people that one does need to carefully check out people that animals are being passed on to.
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