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yepp - 17 Dec 2004 23:13 GMT
When  my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake their
heads before chewing.  I don't know if all cats do this, but mine do.. and
all the time.

They toss kibble bits all over the kitchen floor.  I have a placemat under
their food and water dishes, but would love to find some sort of tray that
would catch all this dry food.  I've been searching the Net looking for
something like a tray with edges on it or even a screen with sides, but all
I find are more food/water dishes.  Anyone have something like that or can
you recommend a website to buy something like that?  Thanks
Motherthing - 17 Dec 2004 23:29 GMT
> When  my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake their
> heads before chewing.  I don't know if all cats do this, but mine do.. and
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I find are more food/water dishes.  Anyone have something like that or can
> you recommend a website to buy something like that?  Thanks

Check with your local liquor store.  They sometimes have "beer flats" that
are low edged boxes that you can fit the food bowls into, the cats can reach
into and the food might just stay in the flat and not fly over the floor.
Also I've found that the lids of the boxes that Avon representatives get
their shipments in work well for this purpose.

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Life is a banquet, and most poor suckers
are starving to death.
- Rosalind Russell

yepp - 17 Dec 2004 23:39 GMT
> Check with your local liquor store.  They sometimes have "beer flats" that
> are low edged boxes that you can fit the food bowls into, the cats can reach
> into and the food might just stay in the flat and not fly over the floor.
> Also I've found that the lids of the boxes that Avon representatives get
> their shipments in work well for this purpose.

Thank you for the idea.  I was looking for something a little more fancy as
they eat in the kitchen, but for the purpose intended, a box lid would do.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 17 Dec 2004 23:47 GMT
> Thank you for the idea.  I was looking for something a little more
> fancy as they eat in the kitchen, but for the purpose intended, a box
> lid would do.

Maybe you could decorate the sides? :)

Joyce
Christina Websell - 18 Dec 2004 00:20 GMT
>> Check with your local liquor store.  They sometimes have "beer flats"
>> that
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> as
> they eat in the kitchen, but for the purpose intended, a box lid would do.

Might an ordinary metal tray with a nice pattern on, sold for humans to eat
their food off on their knees, do the trick?

Tweed
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 17 Dec 2004 23:41 GMT
> Check with your local liquor store.  They sometimes have "beer flats" that
> are low edged boxes that you can fit the food bowls into, the cats can reach
> into and the food might just stay in the flat and not fly over the floor.
> Also I've found that the lids of the boxes that Avon representatives get
> their shipments in work well for this purpose.

For that matter, canned cat food comes in flats, especially in warehouse
club type places (like Pet Club or Costco) that sell large amounts.

Roxy likes to take one piece of kibble out of the bowl with her paw,
drop it on the floor, and then eat it. So there's always all these pieces
of dry food on the floor around the food bowls. I used to have 2 place
mats under the bowls, but it didn't really help, and the place mats just
ended up being one more thing to have to wash. Now I just pick up the
bowls every so often and vacuum up the crumbs and stuff.

Joyce
yepp - 17 Dec 2004 23:50 GMT
> For that matter, canned cat food comes in flats, especially in warehouse
> club type places (like Pet Club or Costco) that sell large amounts.
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>
> Joyce

I hope I am posting correctly by deleting some lines... don't know.

I have the placemat but like you said, it is just another thing to wipe
clean.

I am constantly bending over picking up cat kibble and they manage to toss
it as far as 4' or so.  Maybe it rolls that far.

Anyways, I went to the CFA Cat show several times just to look around and
enjoy the show plus they had 1/2 of the area for vendors just selling items
for cats.  There were many that had trays like I described, but I never
bought one.  And I never picked up a business card either.  Now I can't find
them on the Net.

Some were painted trays and very cute.  Since my cats eat right there in
front of the fridge, I wanted to get something kinda nice looking.  Also, I
think the food attracks ants.
Tanada - 18 Dec 2004 04:01 GMT
> Check with your local liquor store.  They sometimes have "beer flats" that
> are low edged boxes that you can fit the food bowls into, the cats can reach
> into and the food might just stay in the flat and not fly over the floor.
> Also I've found that the lids of the boxes that Avon representatives get
> their shipments in work well for this purpose.

MOTHERTHING!!!!!  We've been worried about you.  Where have you been?
Are you all right?  How are your owners and hubby?

Pam S. worried about you too
Motherthing - 18 Dec 2004 14:38 GMT
>> Check with your local liquor store.  They sometimes have "beer flats"
>> that are low edged boxes that you can fit the food bowls into, the cats
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>
> Pam S. worried about you too

All right, all right!  I give!  I'll sit down right now and post the 'drama'
that's been going on in my life.  <grin>

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are starving to death.
- Rosalind Russell

jmcquown - 17 Dec 2004 23:44 GMT
> When  my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake
> their heads before chewing.  I don't know if all cats do this, but
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> have something like that or can you recommend a website to buy
> something like that?  Thanks

Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic?  The ones I remember from
my childhood had slightly upturned edges.  Funny, I don't remember us being
allowed to eat TV dinners or on TV trays - they were just something Mom had
because didn't every mom in 1960 have TV trays?  (TV's were still a novelty
LOL)

Jill
yepp - 17 Dec 2004 23:54 GMT
> Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic?  The ones I remember from
> my childhood had slightly upturned edges.  Funny, I don't remember us being
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Jill

Yes, I remember those... maybe I should shop for TV trays if they are still
around.  LOL!
jmcquown - 18 Dec 2004 00:04 GMT
>> Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic?  The ones I
>> remember from my childhood had slightly upturned edges.  Funny, I
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Yes, I remember those... maybe I should shop for TV trays if they are
> still around.  LOL!

Check eBay.  I found this metal one with cats on it!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45505&item=4343457546&rd=1

Jill
yepp - 18 Dec 2004 00:05 GMT
> >> Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic?  The ones I
> >> remember from my childhood had slightly upturned edges.  Funny, I
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>
> Check eBay.  I found this metal one with cats on it!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45505&item=4343457546&rd=1

> Jill

The good thing is it is big enough to catch all their food.
jmcquown - 18 Dec 2004 00:31 GMT
>>>> Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic?  The ones I
>>>> remember from my childhood had slightly upturned edges.  Funny, I
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>>
>> Check eBay.  I found this metal one with cats on it!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45505&item=4343457546&rd=1

>> Jill
>>
> The good thing is it is big enough to catch all their food.

eBay isn't evil :)  I've bought and sold a number of things there.  Just
make sure you check the seller's terms and conditions.  Of course you'll
have to register, costs nothing to do so.  eBay truly does have things you'd
never even *think* of!

Good luck finding something to contain the food mess.  Persia is such a
sweet little piggy she doesn't scatter any food; she's too busy inhaling it.

Jill
yepp - 18 Dec 2004 00:37 GMT
> >>>> Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic?  The ones I
> >>>> remember from my childhood had slightly upturned edges.  Funny, I
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> >>
> >> Check eBay.  I found this metal one with cats on it!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45505&item=4343457546&rd=1

> >> Jill
> >>
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>
> Jill

I am afraid of exposing credit card info ... or any personal info, like bank
accounts, etc. on the Net.  Ebay has been in existence for so many years,
and if millions and millions of people have success there, then I may be
ready to enter the 21st century and buy something from Ebay.  Thanks.
Seanette Blaylock - 18 Dec 2004 00:58 GMT
"yepp" <nospam@dot.com> had some very interesting things to say about
Re: messy eaters:

>I am afraid of exposing credit card info ... or any personal info, like bank
>accounts, etc. on the Net.  Ebay has been in existence for so many years,
>and if millions and millions of people have success there, then I may be
>ready to enter the 21st century and buy something from Ebay.  Thanks.

I've never had trouble with bank info online. Of course, I'm very
careful about making sure it's a secure site and a known, reputable
company :-).

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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL
Seanette Blaylock - 18 Dec 2004 00:53 GMT
"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> had some very interesting things
to say about Re: messy eaters:

>eBay isn't evil :)  I've bought and sold a number of things there.  Just
>make sure you check the seller's terms and conditions.  Of course you'll
>have to register, costs nothing to do so.  eBay truly does have things you'd
>never even *think* of!

DH and I have done pretty well on eBay. We've bought electronics [his
current computer and parts for same and my current PDA], software,
cross-stitch patterns, and a set of drinking glasses with a logo DH
likes. With one exception [DH was trying to get a DVD he really
wanted, and the "seller" decided she didn't like the prices she was
getting (she was offering a lot of the same DVD) so ducked out on
actually selling anything], we've had quite good luck. Items arrive
promptly and in good shape. We usually favor the "Buy It Now" option,
since neither of us likes the hassle of bidding or the
unpredictability factor on how much we're going to spend. BIN also
speeds things up a bit, and when someone's minus a computer or PDA or
needs that chart for a wedding gift XS project with a tight deadline,
speed is good. :-)

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doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding.

:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL
yepp - 18 Dec 2004 00:58 GMT
> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> had some very interesting things
> to say about Re: messy eaters:
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> needs that chart for a wedding gift XS project with a tight deadline,
> speed is good. :-)

Thanks.  I haven't a clue what Ebay involves but need to get into it.  I
will take your experiences into consideration. I thought you had to bid on
items and check the site almost every five minutes to see if you were the
winner and I use dial-up.  Then.. about shipping and if the seller is
dependable, etc. opens up a whole bunch of questions that I must look into.
jmcquown - 18 Dec 2004 01:07 GMT
>> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> had some very interesting things
>> to say about Re: messy eaters:
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> the seller is dependable, etc. opens up a whole bunch of questions
> that I must look into.

Check what they call "feedback".  If someone has negative feedback as a
seller you don't want to deal with them.  Most people are just like us, nice
folks :)

Of course you can always google for other TV trays and similar stuff.  Or go
to a  store that sells cookware (I don't know where you live) and probably
find a tray there.

Jill
Seanette Blaylock - 18 Dec 2004 01:18 GMT
"yepp" <nospam@dot.com> had some very interesting things to say about
Re: messy eaters:

>> DH and I have done pretty well on eBay. We've bought electronics [his
>> current computer and parts for same and my current PDA], software,
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>winner and I use dial-up.  Then.. about shipping and if the seller is
>dependable, etc. opens up a whole bunch of questions that I must look into.

Usually, the seller will include info about shipping method, etc. in
the auction description, and you can ask a seller questions before you
bid. As for dependable, my DH [who does our eBaying] looks at the
seller's feedback score. I believe that the winner of an auction is
automatically notified via e-mail.

Looking at the site, I see that http://pages.ebay.com/education/ has a
good set of instructions for the beginner, and you don't have to be
registered with eBay to read it.

You *can* do the bidding routine if you like, but a lot of sellers do
offer the Buy It Now feature. Once you find the item you like that has
that option, if the price seems fair to you, you can choose the BIN
option [which ends the auction. BIN only holds until the first bid is
made, IIUC] and follow payment process [the seller will specify
acceptable payment formats]. If you're using a money order or other
non-electronic payment format, you can expect some delay, since the
seller frequently won't ship until payment is in hand [reasonable
enough, I think]. I don't recall what country you're in, but that
could be relevant [some sellers just won't deal with transactions not
in US dollars, can't/won't ship internationally, that sort of thing].
If it is an issue on a given auction, the seller will very likely
mention that, and again, you *can* ask the seller questions by e-mail
prior to bidding/purchasing.

There is a newsgroup available [at least on my server and probably on
Google] called alt.marketing.online.ebay that might be of help.

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doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding.

:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL
jmcquown - 18 Dec 2004 03:14 GMT
>> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> had some very interesting things
>> to say about Re: messy eaters:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> bid on items and check the site almost every five minutes to see if
> you were the winner

There is an option for "Watching" an item; if you place a bid, eBay will
automatically email you if you have been outbid.  So no, you don't have to
sit there and watch.  In fact, if you do that and try to outbid by a buck or
two for the last few minutes that is called "sniping" and is not good form.

The other thing about "bidding" is eBay automatically bids for you in
increments.  So, for example, someone has set a starting price of $4.99 on
an item and someone bids that price; if you bid $6.00 (as your "maximum"
bid - you aren't held to that being your maximum, by the way) eBay will up
the bid price by 25 cents, not by the price you posted as your maximum bid.
You win at the lowest bid price under your maximum bid.  But, if someone
chooses to try to outbid you, they will receive a message that the max bid
is $6.00 and have to outbid that before their bid can go through.

and I use dial-up.  Then.. about shipping and if
> the seller is dependable, etc. opens up a whole bunch of questions
> that I must look into.

Check it out.  And as Seanette said, Buy It Now is sometimes a good option
if you're looking for something you want without waiting to bid.

Jill
yepp - 18 Dec 2004 00:05 GMT
> >> Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic?  The ones I
> >> remember from my childhood had slightly upturned edges.  Funny, I
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Check eBay.  I found this metal one with cats on it!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45505&item=4343457546&rd=1

> Jill

That is kinda cute!  Thanks Jill.  I never bought anything on Ebay but will
check into it.
Bob M - 18 Dec 2004 16:11 GMT
> Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic?  The ones I remember from
> my childhood had slightly upturned edges.  Funny, I don't remember us being
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Jill

Jill,

  I think we have the same parents. <g>

Bob
jmcquown - 19 Dec 2004 16:19 GMT
>> Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic?  The ones I
>> remember from my childhood had slightly upturned edges.  Funny, I
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>  Bob

Entirely possible, Bob, as I was born in California ;)

Jill
Bill Stock - 18 Dec 2004 00:53 GMT
> When  my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake their
> heads before chewing.  I don't know if all cats do this, but mine do.. and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I find are more food/water dishes.  Anyone have something like that or can
> you recommend a website to buy something like that?  Thanks

You could use a Boot tray/mat. They are used to keep the melting snow from
boots getting on the floor. But the sides may not be high enough.

Our girls don't try to kill their food before they eat it, but Smokey is a
messy eater. She flicks food all over the place with her tongue. The place
mat helps, but she still scatters food around.
yepp - 18 Dec 2004 00:56 GMT
> > When  my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake their
> > heads before chewing.  I don't know if all cats do this, but mine do.. and
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> messy eater. She flicks food all over the place with her tongue. The place
> mat helps, but she still scatters food around.

Is that what they are doing by shaking the food?  Trying to kill it?  I
swear.. these cats have lived with me for 9 years now and I have read every
website, newsgroup and bulletin board I can find, and I still don't
understand all their behaviors.  Cats are interesting companions in the
home.
Countrystuff - 18 Dec 2004 01:36 GMT
> When  my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake their
> heads before chewing.  I don't know if all cats do this, but mine do.. and
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I find are more food/water dishes.  Anyone have something like that or can
> you recommend a website to buy something like that?  Thanks

Buy one of those nice trays they have for litter boxes for the litter that
gets out..I figure it would work the same way ??
--
CountryStuff
O J - 18 Dec 2004 06:53 GMT
>When  my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake their
>heads before chewing.  I don't know if all cats do this, but mine do.. and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>I find are more food/water dishes.  Anyone have something like that or can
>you recommend a website to buy something like that?  Thanks

Hit your local 99-cent store and get a moderate-sized people serving
tray with one inch sides.  If you get something special for cats,
expect to pay triple or more.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Christopher Havlicek - 22 Dec 2004 19:57 GMT
> When  my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake their
> heads before chewing.  I don't know if all cats do this, but mine do.. and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I find are more food/water dishes.  Anyone have something like that or can
> you recommend a website to buy something like that?  Thanks

Mine don't have quite the range yours have.  4 feet is a pretty good
head shake...:)  But Hazard in particular is a messy eater, so I have
all of his dishes in a boot tray.  It's not fancy, but it looks a
bit neater than a cardboard lid, and keeps in water spills as well
as his dry food mishaps.  Of course, none of them *ever* flings wet
food...except down their furry little gullets...;)

The next cat show they have here in DC, I'll try to check for something,
and at least get some cards or URLs.

Purrs and best fishes for a happy holiday!

Chris, Tripper, Katie, and Hazard
 
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