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messy eaters
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yepp - 17 Dec 2004 23:13 GMT When my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake their heads before chewing. I don't know if all cats do this, but mine do.. and all the time.
They toss kibble bits all over the kitchen floor. I have a placemat under their food and water dishes, but would love to find some sort of tray that would catch all this dry food. I've been searching the Net looking for something like a tray with edges on it or even a screen with sides, but all I find are more food/water dishes. Anyone have something like that or can you recommend a website to buy something like that? Thanks
Motherthing - 17 Dec 2004 23:29 GMT > When my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake their > heads before chewing. I don't know if all cats do this, but mine do.. and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I find are more food/water dishes. Anyone have something like that or can > you recommend a website to buy something like that? Thanks Check with your local liquor store. They sometimes have "beer flats" that are low edged boxes that you can fit the food bowls into, the cats can reach into and the food might just stay in the flat and not fly over the floor. Also I've found that the lids of the boxes that Avon representatives get their shipments in work well for this purpose.
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yepp - 17 Dec 2004 23:39 GMT > Check with your local liquor store. They sometimes have "beer flats" that > are low edged boxes that you can fit the food bowls into, the cats can reach > into and the food might just stay in the flat and not fly over the floor. > Also I've found that the lids of the boxes that Avon representatives get > their shipments in work well for this purpose. Thank you for the idea. I was looking for something a little more fancy as they eat in the kitchen, but for the purpose intended, a box lid would do.
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 17 Dec 2004 23:47 GMT > Thank you for the idea. I was looking for something a little more > fancy as they eat in the kitchen, but for the purpose intended, a box > lid would do. Maybe you could decorate the sides? :)
Joyce
Christina Websell - 18 Dec 2004 00:20 GMT >> Check with your local liquor store. They sometimes have "beer flats" >> that [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > as > they eat in the kitchen, but for the purpose intended, a box lid would do. Might an ordinary metal tray with a nice pattern on, sold for humans to eat their food off on their knees, do the trick?
Tweed
jXwXeXrXmXoXnXt@sonic.net - 17 Dec 2004 23:41 GMT > Check with your local liquor store. They sometimes have "beer flats" that > are low edged boxes that you can fit the food bowls into, the cats can reach > into and the food might just stay in the flat and not fly over the floor. > Also I've found that the lids of the boxes that Avon representatives get > their shipments in work well for this purpose. For that matter, canned cat food comes in flats, especially in warehouse club type places (like Pet Club or Costco) that sell large amounts.
Roxy likes to take one piece of kibble out of the bowl with her paw, drop it on the floor, and then eat it. So there's always all these pieces of dry food on the floor around the food bowls. I used to have 2 place mats under the bowls, but it didn't really help, and the place mats just ended up being one more thing to have to wash. Now I just pick up the bowls every so often and vacuum up the crumbs and stuff.
Joyce
yepp - 17 Dec 2004 23:50 GMT > For that matter, canned cat food comes in flats, especially in warehouse > club type places (like Pet Club or Costco) that sell large amounts. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Joyce I hope I am posting correctly by deleting some lines... don't know.
I have the placemat but like you said, it is just another thing to wipe clean.
I am constantly bending over picking up cat kibble and they manage to toss it as far as 4' or so. Maybe it rolls that far.
Anyways, I went to the CFA Cat show several times just to look around and enjoy the show plus they had 1/2 of the area for vendors just selling items for cats. There were many that had trays like I described, but I never bought one. And I never picked up a business card either. Now I can't find them on the Net.
Some were painted trays and very cute. Since my cats eat right there in front of the fridge, I wanted to get something kinda nice looking. Also, I think the food attracks ants.
Tanada - 18 Dec 2004 04:01 GMT > Check with your local liquor store. They sometimes have "beer flats" that > are low edged boxes that you can fit the food bowls into, the cats can reach > into and the food might just stay in the flat and not fly over the floor. > Also I've found that the lids of the boxes that Avon representatives get > their shipments in work well for this purpose. MOTHERTHING!!!!! We've been worried about you. Where have you been? Are you all right? How are your owners and hubby?
Pam S. worried about you too
Motherthing - 18 Dec 2004 14:38 GMT >> Check with your local liquor store. They sometimes have "beer flats" >> that are low edged boxes that you can fit the food bowls into, the cats [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Pam S. worried about you too All right, all right! I give! I'll sit down right now and post the 'drama' that's been going on in my life. <grin>
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jmcquown - 17 Dec 2004 23:44 GMT > When my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake > their heads before chewing. I don't know if all cats do this, but [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > have something like that or can you recommend a website to buy > something like that? Thanks Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic? The ones I remember from my childhood had slightly upturned edges. Funny, I don't remember us being allowed to eat TV dinners or on TV trays - they were just something Mom had because didn't every mom in 1960 have TV trays? (TV's were still a novelty LOL)
Jill
yepp - 17 Dec 2004 23:54 GMT > Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic? The ones I remember from > my childhood had slightly upturned edges. Funny, I don't remember us being [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Jill Yes, I remember those... maybe I should shop for TV trays if they are still around. LOL!
jmcquown - 18 Dec 2004 00:04 GMT >> Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic? The ones I >> remember from my childhood had slightly upturned edges. Funny, I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Yes, I remember those... maybe I should shop for TV trays if they are > still around. LOL! Check eBay. I found this metal one with cats on it!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45505&item=4343457546&rd=1
Jill
yepp - 18 Dec 2004 00:05 GMT > >> Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic? The ones I > >> remember from my childhood had slightly upturned edges. Funny, I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Check eBay. I found this metal one with cats on it! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45505&item=4343457546&rd=1
> Jill The good thing is it is big enough to catch all their food.
jmcquown - 18 Dec 2004 00:31 GMT >>>> Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic? The ones I >>>> remember from my childhood had slightly upturned edges. Funny, I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> Check eBay. I found this metal one with cats on it! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45505&item=4343457546&rd=1
>> Jill >> > The good thing is it is big enough to catch all their food. eBay isn't evil :) I've bought and sold a number of things there. Just make sure you check the seller's terms and conditions. Of course you'll have to register, costs nothing to do so. eBay truly does have things you'd never even *think* of!
Good luck finding something to contain the food mess. Persia is such a sweet little piggy she doesn't scatter any food; she's too busy inhaling it.
Jill
yepp - 18 Dec 2004 00:37 GMT > >>>> Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic? The ones I > >>>> remember from my childhood had slightly upturned edges. Funny, I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >> > >> Check eBay. I found this metal one with cats on it! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45505&item=4343457546&rd=1
> >> Jill > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Jill I am afraid of exposing credit card info ... or any personal info, like bank accounts, etc. on the Net. Ebay has been in existence for so many years, and if millions and millions of people have success there, then I may be ready to enter the 21st century and buy something from Ebay. Thanks.
Seanette Blaylock - 18 Dec 2004 00:58 GMT "yepp" <nospam@dot.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: messy eaters:
>I am afraid of exposing credit card info ... or any personal info, like bank >accounts, etc. on the Net. Ebay has been in existence for so many years, >and if millions and millions of people have success there, then I may be >ready to enter the 21st century and buy something from Ebay. Thanks. I've never had trouble with bank info online. Of course, I'm very careful about making sure it's a secure site and a known, reputable company :-).
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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Seanette Blaylock - 18 Dec 2004 00:53 GMT "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> had some very interesting things to say about Re: messy eaters:
>eBay isn't evil :) I've bought and sold a number of things there. Just >make sure you check the seller's terms and conditions. Of course you'll >have to register, costs nothing to do so. eBay truly does have things you'd >never even *think* of! DH and I have done pretty well on eBay. We've bought electronics [his current computer and parts for same and my current PDA], software, cross-stitch patterns, and a set of drinking glasses with a logo DH likes. With one exception [DH was trying to get a DVD he really wanted, and the "seller" decided she didn't like the prices she was getting (she was offering a lot of the same DVD) so ducked out on actually selling anything], we've had quite good luck. Items arrive promptly and in good shape. We usually favor the "Buy It Now" option, since neither of us likes the hassle of bidding or the unpredictability factor on how much we're going to spend. BIN also speeds things up a bit, and when someone's minus a computer or PDA or needs that chart for a wedding gift XS project with a tight deadline, speed is good. :-)
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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL yepp - 18 Dec 2004 00:58 GMT > "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> had some very interesting things > to say about Re: messy eaters: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > needs that chart for a wedding gift XS project with a tight deadline, > speed is good. :-) Thanks. I haven't a clue what Ebay involves but need to get into it. I will take your experiences into consideration. I thought you had to bid on items and check the site almost every five minutes to see if you were the winner and I use dial-up. Then.. about shipping and if the seller is dependable, etc. opens up a whole bunch of questions that I must look into.
jmcquown - 18 Dec 2004 01:07 GMT >> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> had some very interesting things >> to say about Re: messy eaters: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > the seller is dependable, etc. opens up a whole bunch of questions > that I must look into. Check what they call "feedback". If someone has negative feedback as a seller you don't want to deal with them. Most people are just like us, nice folks :)
Of course you can always google for other TV trays and similar stuff. Or go to a store that sells cookware (I don't know where you live) and probably find a tray there.
Jill
Seanette Blaylock - 18 Dec 2004 01:18 GMT "yepp" <nospam@dot.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: messy eaters:
>> DH and I have done pretty well on eBay. We've bought electronics [his >> current computer and parts for same and my current PDA], software, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >winner and I use dial-up. Then.. about shipping and if the seller is >dependable, etc. opens up a whole bunch of questions that I must look into. Usually, the seller will include info about shipping method, etc. in the auction description, and you can ask a seller questions before you bid. As for dependable, my DH [who does our eBaying] looks at the seller's feedback score. I believe that the winner of an auction is automatically notified via e-mail.
Looking at the site, I see that http://pages.ebay.com/education/ has a good set of instructions for the beginner, and you don't have to be registered with eBay to read it.
You *can* do the bidding routine if you like, but a lot of sellers do offer the Buy It Now feature. Once you find the item you like that has that option, if the price seems fair to you, you can choose the BIN option [which ends the auction. BIN only holds until the first bid is made, IIUC] and follow payment process [the seller will specify acceptable payment formats]. If you're using a money order or other non-electronic payment format, you can expect some delay, since the seller frequently won't ship until payment is in hand [reasonable enough, I think]. I don't recall what country you're in, but that could be relevant [some sellers just won't deal with transactions not in US dollars, can't/won't ship internationally, that sort of thing]. If it is an issue on a given auction, the seller will very likely mention that, and again, you *can* ask the seller questions by e-mail prior to bidding/purchasing.
There is a newsgroup available [at least on my server and probably on Google] called alt.marketing.online.ebay that might be of help.
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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL jmcquown - 18 Dec 2004 03:14 GMT >> "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> had some very interesting things >> to say about Re: messy eaters: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > bid on items and check the site almost every five minutes to see if > you were the winner There is an option for "Watching" an item; if you place a bid, eBay will automatically email you if you have been outbid. So no, you don't have to sit there and watch. In fact, if you do that and try to outbid by a buck or two for the last few minutes that is called "sniping" and is not good form.
The other thing about "bidding" is eBay automatically bids for you in increments. So, for example, someone has set a starting price of $4.99 on an item and someone bids that price; if you bid $6.00 (as your "maximum" bid - you aren't held to that being your maximum, by the way) eBay will up the bid price by 25 cents, not by the price you posted as your maximum bid. You win at the lowest bid price under your maximum bid. But, if someone chooses to try to outbid you, they will receive a message that the max bid is $6.00 and have to outbid that before their bid can go through.
and I use dial-up. Then.. about shipping and if
> the seller is dependable, etc. opens up a whole bunch of questions > that I must look into. Check it out. And as Seanette said, Buy It Now is sometimes a good option if you're looking for something you want without waiting to bid.
Jill
yepp - 18 Dec 2004 00:05 GMT > >> Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic? The ones I > >> remember from my childhood had slightly upturned edges. Funny, I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Check eBay. I found this metal one with cats on it! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45505&item=4343457546&rd=1
> Jill That is kinda cute! Thanks Jill. I never bought anything on Ebay but will check into it.
Bob M - 18 Dec 2004 16:11 GMT > Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic? The ones I remember from > my childhood had slightly upturned edges. Funny, I don't remember us being [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Jill Jill,
I think we have the same parents. <g>
Bob
jmcquown - 19 Dec 2004 16:19 GMT >> Perhaps a human TV tray-like item made of plastic? The ones I >> remember from my childhood had slightly upturned edges. Funny, I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Bob Entirely possible, Bob, as I was born in California ;)
Jill
Bill Stock - 18 Dec 2004 00:53 GMT > When my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake their > heads before chewing. I don't know if all cats do this, but mine do.. and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I find are more food/water dishes. Anyone have something like that or can > you recommend a website to buy something like that? Thanks You could use a Boot tray/mat. They are used to keep the melting snow from boots getting on the floor. But the sides may not be high enough.
Our girls don't try to kill their food before they eat it, but Smokey is a messy eater. She flicks food all over the place with her tongue. The place mat helps, but she still scatters food around.
yepp - 18 Dec 2004 00:56 GMT > > When my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake their > > heads before chewing. I don't know if all cats do this, but mine do.. and [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > messy eater. She flicks food all over the place with her tongue. The place > mat helps, but she still scatters food around. Is that what they are doing by shaking the food? Trying to kill it? I swear.. these cats have lived with me for 9 years now and I have read every website, newsgroup and bulletin board I can find, and I still don't understand all their behaviors. Cats are interesting companions in the home.
Countrystuff - 18 Dec 2004 01:36 GMT > When my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake their > heads before chewing. I don't know if all cats do this, but mine do.. and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I find are more food/water dishes. Anyone have something like that or can > you recommend a website to buy something like that? Thanks Buy one of those nice trays they have for litter boxes for the litter that gets out..I figure it would work the same way ?? -- CountryStuff
O J - 18 Dec 2004 06:53 GMT >When my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake their >heads before chewing. I don't know if all cats do this, but mine do.. and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >I find are more food/water dishes. Anyone have something like that or can >you recommend a website to buy something like that? Thanks Hit your local 99-cent store and get a moderate-sized people serving tray with one inch sides. If you get something special for cats, expect to pay triple or more.
Regards and Purrs, O J
Christopher Havlicek - 22 Dec 2004 19:57 GMT > When my 2 cats eat their dry food, they take a mouthful and shake their > heads before chewing. I don't know if all cats do this, but mine do.. and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I find are more food/water dishes. Anyone have something like that or can > you recommend a website to buy something like that? Thanks Mine don't have quite the range yours have. 4 feet is a pretty good head shake...:) But Hazard in particular is a messy eater, so I have all of his dishes in a boot tray. It's not fancy, but it looks a bit neater than a cardboard lid, and keeps in water spills as well as his dry food mishaps. Of course, none of them *ever* flings wet food...except down their furry little gullets...;)
The next cat show they have here in DC, I'll try to check for something, and at least get some cards or URLs.
Purrs and best fishes for a happy holiday!
Chris, Tripper, Katie, and Hazard
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