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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / December 2004Do your cats like to vent in the morning?
Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started sleeping on the heating vents in the morning. Although she always picks the one furthest from the heat monster. >Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started sleeping on the >heating vents in the morning. Although she always picks the one furthest >from the heat monster. Stinky (and before him, Mimi) likes to meatloaf on the radiator. I have to pay attention not to let it get too hot-- he seems to like it. Also because of this, his coat tends to get a bit dried out in the winter. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com >>Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started sleeping on the >>heating vents in the morning. Although she always picks the one furthest [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Theresa >Stinky Pictures: My "vents" are in the ceiling. Spicey doesn't lay on them for some reason. Suz Macmoosette =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= "People that hate cats will come back as mice in their next life." --Faith Resnick |\__/| (=':'=) (")_(") > Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started sleeping on the > heating vents in the morning. Although she always picks the one furthest > from the heat monster. Rob, my DH, used to vent after a long winter's night flight. Even with long johns, cold weather gear, and every warming precaution we could give him, he would be freezing when he came in from a night flight. When he got in, he would wrap his poncho liner (a sort of camouflaged mini quilt, for want of a better description, made of flame retardant quilting material sandwiched with parachute silk) around him and sit on the heat vent. At least one cat, usually Muffin, would slide under the liner and sit between his curled up legs. After a while the cat would come out from hiding with his fur fluffed out and trying to ventilate some cool into his system. A lot later, Rob would crawl into bed and wrap his (still) ice-cold arms and legs around me. I'd try not to shiver, just relax and let him warm his cold body. Rob used to say that the temperature goes down into the severe negative numbers at 5,000 feet. Sometimes I think he still dreams about night flying in winter. He'll shiver and then wrap his arms and legs around me. Needless to say, he isn't cold any more, and I feel like I'm having a hot flash when he does this. Pam S. > > Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started sleeping on the > > heating vents in the morning. Although she always picks the one furthest [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > me. Needless to say, he isn't cold any more, and I feel like I'm having > a hot flash when he does this. The ol' smoothie! :) > Pam S. > > Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started sleeping on the > > heating vents in the morning. Although she always picks the one furthest [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Pam S. I can vouch for this. I fly too but only as a hobby. Night flights can get very cold. Bob > I can vouch for this. I fly too but only as a hobby. Night flights can > get very cold. > > Bob Especially in a Blackhawk helicopter, which do have heaters. But they don't do much good at 500 feet, with a sling load and cargo doors open. Brrr Pam S. wanting to know what Bob flies, and can Rob have a ride? > > I can vouch for this. I fly too but only as a hobby. Night flights can > > get very cold. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Pam S. wanting to know what Bob flies, and can Rob have a ride? Cessna 172 ans Cessna 152. And sure he can. Bob >>Especially in a Blackhawk helicopter, which do have heaters. But they >>don't do much good at 500 feet, with a sling load and cargo doors open. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Bob Kewl!! I'll tell Rob this when I get a chance. He's in obnoxious mode tonight. Pam S. > Kewl!! I'll tell Rob this when I get a chance. He's in obnoxious mode > tonight. > > Pam S. Me too. I've just come down with the flu. Or at least it feels like it. Sore throat, head congestion, cough, body aches, nausea, and a fever of 101.2. So right now I'm very grouchy and irritable. Bob >> Kewl!! I'll tell Rob this when I get a chance. He's in obnoxious >> mode tonight. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Bob I recommend bed rest, cats purring and a bowl of menudo... oh wait, that's for a hangover :) Try hot chicken broth with dumplings or rice. You need to stay hydrated *and* eat. Feel better. Jill >> Kewl!! I'll tell Rob this when I get a chance. He's in obnoxious >> mode tonight. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >it. Sore throat, head congestion, cough, body aches, nausea, and a >fever of 101.2. So right now I'm very grouchy and irritable. Yes, that sounds like flu, all right. I was finally able to get a flu shot about 3 weeks ago, so I probably won't catch a full-scale case of the flu this winter, but, as usual, the shot gave me a mild case of flu symptoms for about a week.  SignatureJohn F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria >>Kewl!! I'll tell Rob this when I get a chance. He's in obnoxious mode >>tonight. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Bob Great!! I'll send Rob right over. Pam S. Who wouldn't, but it sounds good When I was growing up we had what was called a "floor furnace". It was essentially a heater that was underneath the floor in the hall and had a grate on the floor. When it was cold I used to stand over it with a foot on each site and let the heat billow out my nightgown - yummy warmth! In our current house all the vents are in the ceiling, so the kitties can't sleep on them. Hugs, CatNipped > Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started sleeping on the > heating vents in the morning. Although she always picks the one furthest > from the heat monster. > When I was growing up we had what was called a "floor furnace". It was > essentially a heater that was underneath the floor in the hall and had a > grate on the floor. When it was cold I used to stand over it with a foot on > each site and let the heat billow out my nightgown - yummy warmth! We lived in the country when I was a youngster and -40?F/C was common. So standing over the kitchen vent in the morning was a ritual. > In our current house all the vents are in the ceiling, so the kitties can't > sleep on them. As far as you know! :) > Hugs, > > CatNipped > > Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started sleeping on the > > heating vents in the morning. Although she always picks the one furthest > > from the heat monster. >> When I was growing up we had what was called a "floor furnace". It was >> essentially a heater that was underneath the floor in the hall and had a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > As far as you know! :) LOL, well, yes - lord knows what they do when I'm asleep!! We already know that kittens have anti-gravity devices implanted in their paws. Hugs, CatNipped >When I was growing up we had what was called a "floor furnace". It was >essentially a heater that was underneath the floor in the hall and had a >grate on the floor. When it was cold I used to stand over it with a foot on >each site and let the heat billow out my nightgown - yummy warmth! That sounds like fun, Norma Jean. You must be part cat. :) I sometimes see Betty sitting next to the radiator under the desk, but I don't know if it's because it's a good ambush spot, or because it's warm. > >When I was growing up we had what was called a "floor furnace". It was > >essentially a heater that was underneath the floor in the hall and had a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > don't know if it's because it's a good ambush spot, or because it's > warm. LOL, that's the first time I've associated that (that's how far a body image I have from the real Norma Jean I guess), even though I loved that movie, "Seven Year Itch", wasn't it? Hugs, CatNipped > "Takayuki" <Takayuki9z@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> That sounds like fun, Norma Jean. You must be part cat. :) I > LOL, that's the first time I've associated that (that's how far a > body image I have from the real Norma Jean I guess), even though I > loved that movie, "Seven Year Itch", wasn't it? Oh, and here I thought I was being so original, making a reference to that scene! (See my other post.) Hey, Marilyn wasn't exactly Twiggy herself! Is Norma Jean your real name? Joyce > > "Takayuki" <Takayuki9z@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Joyce Nope, my real name is Lori Crews. I had written this once before, but it bears repeating - our concept of beauty has become so warped lately that what used to be considered unattractively skinny (actually to the point of emaciation) is now considered the ideal and if the real Norma Jean were alive today she would be considered "fat" and probably would not be able to get work in Hollywood. Hugs, CatNipped >>> "Takayuki" <Takayuki9z@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > CatNipped I collect vintage gowns and dresses - well, my last acquired item was well before I lost work, around 2000. The sizes always amaze me. I'm what is considered (these days) an American size 6. Many of the cocktail dresses circa 1960 which fit me are labelled size 10 or 12. It is no surprise the seller of these dresses measures them in terms of bust/waist/hips. To speak to your concept of Norma Jean... my measurements rival hers and I'm not a large woman. She'd have gotten work! ;) Jill <---Just finished watching DVD 'Gentlemen Prefer Blondes' last weekend > I collect vintage gowns and dresses - well, my last acquired item was well > before I lost work, around 2000. The sizes always amaze me. I'm what is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to your concept of Norma Jean... my measurements rival hers and I'm not a > large woman. She'd have gotten work! ;) Yeah, the whole dress size thing is a real scam. What used to be called "size 10" when I was young is now called - I guess, according to your experience - something like "size 6". It's all about convincing women they're actually wearing a smaller size, which makes them happy and more willing to buy. Of course, there's a depressing corollary to this. When I was a kid, I remember women talking about being a "perfect size 10" - which was considered the ideal dress size. Now it's like size 0 or something. At first, I believed this was because the beauty norm was getting more and more anorexic-looking, which is somewhat true, but is also because size 0 is probably not far from what maybe size 6 or 8 was when I was a kid. So the difference isn't that extreme. Kind of kills my favorite nostalgia myth of a time when larger bodies were in style. If I want to see that, I'll have to go back a lot further in time than 40-odd years! Joyce > > I collect vintage gowns and dresses - well, my last acquired item > was well > before I lost work, around 2000. The sizes always amaze [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Joyce My oldest gown is circa 1932. Tell me you've seen Claudette Colbert in 'It Happened One Night' with Clarke Gable. Now tell me you thought she looked "fat" in her satin wedding dress. Nonsense! (Of course it was scandelous in the film because you could see the shape of her legs and whatnot! through that clingy fabric!) This gown I own was cut on the bias, as so many of them were back then. Low in front, low in back (buttons up the back... zippers were not yet the norm! I have NO idea what, if anything, they wore underneath LOL It's made of black silk shot through with silver threads and also very clingy. Today it would be a size 6 or 8. Back then it was probably a size 10-12. Nosiree, not fat, but well proportioned :) Jill <--tooting her own middle-aged horn > Yeah, the whole dress size thing is a real scam. What used to be called > "size 10" when I was young is now called - I guess, according to your > experience - something like "size 6". It's all about convincing women > they're actually wearing a smaller size, which makes them happy and more > willing to buy. USAian rarely have a problem getting something that fits just by saying their size, but this had the force of the US Army behind it. Apparently, when the Army started uniforming large numbers of men in WWI, they were having problems getting proper fits. They quite systematically measured people, doing things such as coming up with standard places to measure, and such things as the most common crotch length associated with a given waist and inseam measurement. In other words, mens' sizes are truly standard. Even "large", "medium", etc., map to specific measurements. At the same time, if one is buying a better-grade suit, it's expected there will be alterations, which used to be included in the price. They now tend to be "a la carte", but have a wide range of options. It's been my observation that until you get to _some_ high-end womens' clothing shops, the sales staff behaves terribly in comparison with even a midrange mens' shops. I've taken female friends with me to a high-quality mens' shop like Brooks Brothers, and they've been stunned by the professionalism of the staff. When I've taken them to the womens' department, they were amazed at the same treatment. There are stores that do pride themselves on professionalism, such as Nordstrom's, but the sales staff in some lower-end womens' stores might risk injury with male clientele. >> Yeah, the whole dress size thing is a real scam. What used to be >> called "size 10" when I was young is now called - I guess, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >In other words, mens' sizes are truly standard. Even "large", >"medium", etc., map to specific measurements. Really? My experience has been that named sizes vary considerably from manufacturer to manufacturer, and even numbered waist sizes and inseam sizes aren't totally reliable. It is common practice in the garment industry, if a factory gets an order for more of a particular size of garment than they have in stock, to change the size labels in some of the existing garments. SignatureJohn F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria > It's been my observation that until you get to _some_ high-end womens' > clothing shops, the sales staff behaves terribly in comparison with even > a midrange mens' shops. I've taken female friends with me to a > high-quality mens' shop like Brooks Brothers, and they've been stunned > by the professionalism of the staff. I've shopped at a store called Casual Male, and I know what you mean. Nobody blinks an eye at me just because I happen to be female, trying on vests or belts or whatever. They're very courteous and helpful, and this isn't a high-end store. I'm not sure where you'd categorize it - it's not a discount store, maybe mid-range? Joyce > > It's been my observation that until you get to _some_ high-end womens' > > clothing shops, the sales staff behaves terribly in comparison with [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > this isn't a high-end store. I'm not sure where you'd categorize it - > it's not a discount store, maybe mid-range? Midrange for "big and tall". Nice people, though. Incidentally, if that's in a good size range, I very much recommend a somewhat off-the-wall online site, http://www.happychefuniforms.com. They recognize that chefs may enjoy their own work quite a bit, so have everything from extra small to about 5XL. Some of their stuff is just plain fun -- all sorts of culinary-themed prints, including wild vests and ties. They have very good prices and quality on button-down sport shirts. They also have a limited range of cookware, but what they have is very competitively priced. I got a mandoline from them at $110, where the cheapest I saw it elsewhere was $140. Unfortunately, the Bron manual might make more sense if they had left in in French, and I read French -- I need to get someone to show me how to use it well. Their commercial nonstick frying pans are priced with the reality that restaurants discard them after heavy use. > I collect vintage gowns and dresses - well, my last acquired item was well > before I lost work, around 2000. The sizes always amaze me. I'm what is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Jill <---Just finished watching DVD 'Gentlemen Prefer Blondes' last > weekend *I'm* not saying that Marilyn Munroe was fat - I think she was perfect. But I do think she would be considered "fat" in today's Hollywood. Look at these two pictures, both nudes (with the interesting bits blotted out by me for the sake of this family newsgroup) of Marilyn Munroe and Angelina Jolie (considered to be s sex symbol now-a-days and quite "round") and compare the thighs on both women. There is *quite* a difference. In *MY* opinion, I think Marilyn has it all over Angelina and I think that our standard of beauty has just become warped. [BTW, DH, bless his sweet heart, loves "zaftig" women and is concerned that at 140 lbs, I've become *way* too thin - I think I've finally stopped losing weight from the surgery - and am "just wasting away"!! He definitely agrees with my opinion concerning this.] http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/Stars/ Hugs, CatNipped > *I'm* not saying that Marilyn Munroe was fat - I think she was perfect. May I just interject here to say that fat is also perfect? People come in all different sizes, and we're each perfect just as we are. The reason I'm saying this is because when I hear about "healthy body image", it's usually directed at average-sized women (ie, those who wear size 12, 14, etc), who mistakenly believe they are fat because they're comparing themselves to anorexic stars and models. Usually in this kind of discussion, the average-sized women are reassured that they're "normal", ie, not fat. But what about people who really *are* fat? Don't we exist too? I'm not directing this question at you specifically, CatNipped, because I don't think you had any such thought in your head when you posted the above. I'm just bringing this issue up for people to think about. Fat people need to have a good body image too. I'm sure someone will want to say something about "health" - but I'm just talking about self-esteem and respect from others, not medical issues. And anyway, I believe it's quite possible to be fat and healthy, as long as you take good care of yourself (and you're lucky and have good genes!). The pictures were incredible, btw - wow, Anglina Jolie really does look terrible. Joyce > > *I'm* not saying that Marilyn Munroe was fat - I think she was perfect. > > May I just interject here to say that fat is also perfect? People come > in all different sizes, and we're each perfect just as we are. Yes, you're right! I was just trying to make a point that our definition of "too fat" today is *WARPED*. And, even if you use MM as an "ideal", think about how even *she* would have been too skinny for Botticelli! It's all in what we are "trained" to see as beautiful. It's just a shame that we can't incorporate *all* body types in our definition of beauty or perfection. As I was saying of my DH, indibiduals have different preferences - lots of people think "perfect" when a few others might think "fat". So why does the fashion industry, Hollywood, and the media try to force on us just one, uncommon, body type over all others? Our young girls are literally starving themselves to death trying to become an ectomorph when nature has given them endomorph genes! > The reason I'm saying this is because when I hear about "healthy body > image", it's usually directed at average-sized women (ie, those who [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > they're "normal", ie, not fat. But what about people who really *are* > fat? Don't we exist too? Definitely - and there are more of "us" (yes, I still have that self-image - after mumbledy mumbledy years of being 200+ pounds, less than a year of being 140 hasn't changed that) than there are of "them". > I'm not directing this question at you specifically, CatNipped, because > I don't think you had any such thought in your head when you posted the > above. I'm just bringing this issue up for people to think about. Fat > people need to have a good body image too. I know, it's the issue I was trying to get people to think about, I just did it badly! ;> > I'm sure someone will want to say something about "health" - but I'm just > talking about self-esteem and respect from others, not medical issues. And > anyway, I believe it's quite possible to be fat and healthy, as long as > you take good care of yourself (and you're lucky and have good genes!). Exactly - the charts doctors use are just as "artificial" as what the media tries to feed us - just look how they've changed over the years as fashion has changed. > The pictures were incredible, btw - wow, Anglina Jolie really does look > terrible. > > Joyce I know, emaciated just doesn't do it for me (or for DH either, thank goodness)!! Hugs, CatNipped I agree wholeheartedly, but I have to put in a good word for skinny people. First, I have a father who has always been overweight and a DH who is as well so I have seen how hard it can be in today's world for a heavier person. However, it is not always easy to be skinny either. I am 24 and have never weighed over 100lbs. And I eat like a horse - in fact I eat significantly more than my DH. And I do nothing to stay this way, just lucky genetics. BUT it can be a pain - like trying to buy a nice work/dress suite that looks professional and adult when you are 5ft.2inches and 100lbs. Good luck. They don't make professional looking cloths for women with the body of a 13 year old. Or when I see my family, only once a year, and the first thing EVERYONE says is not "hello" or "we missed you" but "Have you lost weight, you look so skinny. Are you sick?" And let's not forget the time that a relative announced at the family Christmas that I must be anorexic. Nothing like 15 people staring at your body to make you uncomfortable. Or the people who see me eating my 6th meal for the day and make a snide comment that I have an eating disorder because I only had one serving and not a second. or when people assume that, because I am short skinny and have a small chest, I must be in middle school so it is ok to talk to and treat me like a 14 year old child. I know it can be painful to be what society considers overweight - two of the people I love most in this world have to deal with it. My weight issues have are nothing compared to that, but remember it's not always wonderful to be skinny and not all skinny people choose to be that way because they diet or had surgery. Just like nost overweight folks did not choose to be that way. Sorry - this happens to be something I tend to get up on a soapbox about...ignore me if you wish. Hi! I'm the new face here. You guys are sure a busy lot! I'm trying to catch up & read most posts, but I'm struggling trying to understand the format (this is the first google group I've joined.) One thing I don't understand is how you copy & paste so many different posts into 1 post to reply. Can somebody explain? The Help pages don't usually explain stuff like that. Anyway--you've gone from sitting on vents, to kvetching, to body image. I, too, thought the original post was going to be about kvetching kitties. My Daisy, aka Miss Piggy, kvetches constantly about lack of food, even when there's food in her dish. I just know she's stealing from Miss Moxie's dish when I'm not looking. The only things I'm allowed to do in the AM before feeding them is to go to the toilet, & put on robe & slippers. I used to know a guy whose owners wouldn't even let him pee first! ^Abby^ was the only cat I ever had who sat or laid on the vents. I always thought it looked uncomfortable--metal slats under your butt! Somebody talked about whether fat people "exist." I find that I'm often invisible. Not a nice feeling... My fur family is Daisy, my tortie/tiger Snuggle Bunny of the Universe, who sleeps on my head, & my independent girl, Miss Moxie the gray tiger. We're all glad to meet all of you. Katz > Hi! I'm the new face here. You guys are sure a busy lot! I'm trying to > catch up & read most posts, but I'm struggling trying to understand the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I, too, thought the original post was going to be about kvetching > kitties. LOL - welcome to "thread drift", that happens here *A LOT*. We mostly like it that way, it's like being in a group of friends and just talking - the conversation never stays on just one topic but will cover an amazing number of topics as one thing reminds someone of something else. BTW, welcome to the group Katz! > My Daisy, aka Miss Piggy, kvetches constantly about lack of > food, even when there's food in her dish. I just know she's stealing [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Katz We're glad you're here! Hugs, CatNipped > Hi! I'm the new face here. You guys are sure a busy lot! I'm trying to > catch up & read most posts, but I'm struggling trying to understand the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I, too, thought the original post was going to be about kvetching > kitties. Many of the posts here have Subjects with double meanings. It makes things more interesting AND it gets you to read our posts. :) > My Daisy, aka Miss Piggy, kvetches constantly about lack of > food, even when there's food in her dish. I just know she's stealing > from Miss Moxie's dish when I'm not looking. The only things I'm > allowed to do in the AM before feeding them is to go to the toilet, & > put on robe & slippers. I used to know a guy whose owners wouldn't even > let him pee first! You're lucky, your cats let you pee first! > ^Abby^ was the only cat I ever had who sat or laid on the vents. I > always thought it looked uncomfortable--metal slats under your butt! > Somebody talked about whether fat people "exist." I find that I'm often > invisible. Not a nice feeling... [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Katz >Hi! I'm the new face here. You guys are sure a busy lot! I'm trying to >catch up & read most posts, but I'm struggling trying to understand the >format (this is the first google group I've joined.) One thing I don't >understand is how you copy & paste so many different posts into 1 post >to reply. Can somebody explain? The Help pages don't usually explain >stuff like that. ---------------------<snip>---------------------- You'll find out that as you reply to a post, the program will include all of the remarks from the previous post, preceded by, as in the case of this article, "Katz wrote:". Sometimes it will mention the date and article number as well. I prefer to trim these, but it's not a rule. Also you'll see things like: O J wrote: >Katz wrote: >>O J wrote: >>> "Assume that this is message text. It's my first statement" >> "Assume that this is message text. It's your reply. > "Assuve that this is message text. It's my reply to your reply. "Assume that this is message text. It's your comment on my reply to your reply." You'll find the trick is not cutting and pasting, but in cutting out the bits that aren't germane to the replies. I prefer to trim the original text more severely than most, but that's just me. Also, some folk are sticklers about "bottom posting", that is putting them in order from top to bottom as in the example above. Some people "top post", adding their remarks at the top instead of the bottom. This will get you chastised in some groups, but we're a pretty easy-going bunch here. One thing you might consider watching out for is the so-called "me too" article. If someone writes a 100 line article, there's no need to included all the text in the quote, adding at the bottom, "Me too." Again, some places will chastise you for this, but this is not one of them. If you trim a great deal of text and focus in on just one point that the previous poster wrote, it's customary in most places to indicate it, as I did above, by noting that you have "snipped" the first poster's remarks. Just follow along and it'll soon be second nature. Nice to have you here. Regards and Purrs, O J Welcome, Katz! Best wishes, SignaturePolonca & Soncek > Hi! I'm the new face here. You guys are sure a busy lot! <snip >My fur family is Daisy, my tortie/tiger Snuggle Bunny of the Universe, >who sleeps on my head, & my independent girl, Miss Moxie the gray >tiger. We're all glad to meet all of you. > >Katz Welcome Katz, I'm not familiar with quoting on google sorry. Suz Macmoosette =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= "People that hate cats will come back as mice in their next life." --Faith Resnick |\__/| (=':'=) (")_(") >I agree wholeheartedly, but I have to put in a good word for skinny > people. First, I have a father who has always been overweight and a DH [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Sorry - this happens to be something I tend to get up on a soapbox > about...ignore me if you wish. Wholeheartedly agreeing with you. I guess the point is, why can't we just accept everyone ever born as the unique and precious individual that they are and quit trying to make people into what they are not and were never meant to be! We wouldn't feel comfortable (or shouldn't) negatively commenting about someone born with a club foot or cleft pallette, why do we feel free to negatively comment about someone's body size be it large or small??!! Hugs, CatNipped > Wholeheartedly agreeing with you. I guess the point is, why can't we just > accept everyone ever born as the unique and precious individual that they [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > feel free to negatively comment about someone's body size be it large or > small??!! My Dad, who was a palaeontologist, once said that every person alive today is the result of millions of years of product development, and each person is the perfect result of their 'line'. Each person is the product of two people liking something about each other (OK, he might have been quite idealistic on this point ;o) ). SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki Marina and CatNipped - Amen! As I tell my DH I don't care how much you weigh as long as you stay the wonderfully sweet person you are. You love a person because of their spirit, not looks! >My Dad, who was a palaeontologist, once said that every person alive >today is the result of millions of years of product development, and >each person is the perfect result of their 'line'. Each person is the >product of two people liking something about each other (OK, he might >have been quite idealistic on this point ;o) ). Somehow, this comment your dad made fits very well with the image I had of him. :) > My Dad, who was a palaeontologist, once said that every person alive > today is the result of millions of years of product development LOL - I like that way of putting it. :) Joyce Your Dad sounds wonderful - that's a fantastic perspective! Tish >> Wholeheartedly agreeing with you. I guess the point is, why can't we just >> accept everyone ever born as the unique and precious individual that they [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >product of two people liking something about each other (OK, he might >have been quite idealistic on this point ;o) ). > My Dad, who was a palaeontologist, once said that every person alive > today is the result of millions of years of product development, and > each person is the perfect result of their 'line'. Each person is the > product of two people liking something about each other (OK, he might > have been quite idealistic on this point ;o) ). I like this thinking. It is a very accommodating way of seeing things! Deb. Signaturehttp://www.scientific-art.com "He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would; He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield > Or when I see > my family, only once a year, and the first thing EVERYONE says is not > "hello" or "we missed you" but "Have you lost weight, you look so > skinny. Are you sick?" And let's not forget the time that a > relative announced at the family Christmas that I must be anorexic. > Nothing like 15 people staring at your body to make you uncomfortable. GRRRRR!! Some people have no sense of *personal boundaries*!! Let's all stare at someone, discussing and evaluating her, as though she were a farm animal for sale or something! Yes, that is something that people at both ends of the weight scale share. > of the people I love most in this world have to deal with it. My > weight issues have are nothing compared to that, but remember it's > not always wonderful to be skinny and not all skinny people choose to > be that way because they diet or had surgery. Just like nost > overweight folks did not choose to be that way. It's mostly genes. But people insist on believing that we choose our body type. I guess it's because it *is* possible to change your size and weight in the short run. I mean, if you never eat, you will lose weight, and (for most people) if you eat lots of high-calorie foods, you'll gain. Everyone sees this cause and effect happening, and we conclude that we have total control over our body type. But over time, people's bodies tend to return to their natural setpoints. If you're trying to lose weight, you end up seeing that as a personal failure, instead of as nature doing its thing. I haven't been on the other end (trying to gain weight and failing to maintain the higher weight), but there are people for whom that happens, too. The big difference between the two is that fat people are often the objects of ridicule and contempt. They are seen as morally corrupt, lazy, undisciplined, slovenly, compulsive and/or unwilling to care for themselves. Thin people definitely get hostility, though, especially thin women, from other women who struggle to become or stay thin - which I think is envy. So I can't deny that people can be quite ignorant about anyone who doesn't fit their idea of the norm! Joyce > or when people assume that, because I am > short skinny and have a small chest, I must be in middle school so it > is ok to talk to and treat me like a 14 year old child. I once asked a young woman for her hall pass, thinking she was a student on the loose. She showed me her teacher's ID/pass. I apologized and we both laughed about it. The next year she'd transferred to a new school and was my daughter's seventh grade social studies teacher. Mandy loved her so much, the two of them were the same height, AND the teacher drove this really kewl red jeep with a soft top and roll bars. Not only that, but she knew how to get a bored kid's attention with information and projects taken from each country and area they were studying. For instance, when they started learning about the history of Egypt, she had the kids turn apples and oranges into mummies. It was a shock when I saw her name on Mandy's schedule though, and we both got a giggle out of the situation when parent/teacher conference time rolled around. Pam S. short and fat >> or when people assume that, because I am >> short skinny and have a small chest, I must be in middle school so it [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >studying. For instance, when they started learning about the history of >Egypt, she had the kids turn apples and oranges into mummies. My mom teaches a unit on Egypt every year to her third graders. She says the thing the kids always remember *perfectly* is the part about preparing mummies, and how they would pull the brain out through the nose with a hook. ;) Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com >I agree wholeheartedly, but I have to put in a good word for skinny >people. First, I have a father who has always been overweight and a DH [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >Sorry - this happens to be something I tend to get up on a soapbox >about...ignore me if you wish. JC Penneys has a great Petite dept. The clothes are actually cut/designed for women under 5ft4in. Both my mother and I are under 5ft tall (I'm waaaay under) the waists are at you waist not your hips. I don't mention my weight online because of my height its alot under 100 and last time I mentioned it here people got worried. Suz Macmoosette =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= "People that hate cats will come back as mice in their next life." --Faith Resnick |\__/| (=':'=) (")_(") > > I collect vintage gowns and dresses - well, my last acquired item was well > > before I lost work, around 2000. The sizes always amaze me. I'm what is [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/Stars/ Look! Marilyn has a *stomach*. A proper, well rounded, *female* shaped stomach. Not some flat six pack. Us women are supposed to be a bit round there, and even more "a bit round" there if we have had kids and our stomach muscles have stretched. In one of those famous Marilyn scenes, I remember the men drooling over her behind that "jiggled" inticingly. Not allowed to have any jiggle now! One of the theories of what is considered attractive is that we as a society find whatever a person who is "rich" looks like attractive. Back in the old days, fat would have been attractive, because that meant you ate well and didn't have to work hard. But these days, only someone who has enough time and money to work long hours in a gym to get a flat flat tummy (or the money to have the surgery) is attractive. Looking like a Hollywood star is darn hard work and costs a small fortune - something that most of us don't have the time or the money to do. As a mother of a young kid who also works full time, I'd really like to know where I'm supposed to find the time to excercise. It snot good enough that I run around at work and at home all my waking hours, I am also supposed to find two hours a day (one hour at the gym, one hour for travelling, showeing and changing) a day to do situps and do resistance training. Yeah right. But if I didn't work and had a nanny...... etc etc. Yowie >>> I collect vintage gowns and dresses - well, my last acquired item >>> was well before I lost work, around 2000. The sizes always amaze [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Look! Marilyn has a *stomach*. A proper, well rounded, *female* shaped > stomach. John LOVES my *stomach*! I was afraid after the last time he saw me (I was 21) he'd think "oh gawd" - but then again, you should see HIS stomach heheh :) Jill Not some flat six pack. Us women are supposed to be a bit > round there, and even more "a bit round" there if we have had kids > and our stomach muscles have stretched. In one of those famous [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Yowie >>>> "Takayuki" <Takayuki9z@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >Jill <---Just finished watching DVD 'Gentlemen Prefer Blondes' last weekend We had this discussion on another group and someone went to snopes.com to research that she wore a size 16. Snopes said that her weight fluctuated a lot and as you've said size twelves were different then. It do think women in her generation had smaller waists. Suz Macmoosette =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= "People that hate cats will come back as mice in their next life." --Faith Resnick |\__/| (=':'=) (")_(") >>>>> "Takayuki" <Takayuki9z@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>> [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > Suz > Macmoosette They weren't too terribly far removed from the "corset" generation. I speak as someone who has worn a corset (I have attended American Civil War reenactments in full regalia). 26-some years ago my waistline was 21" which Scarlett O'Hara of GWTW novel fame would have found horrifyingly large. I can't claim that now! I *was* called into a bigwig's office Halloween 2003 for a meeting. There I was, decked out in a green velvet boned bodice and skirt, with a hoop underskirt, a wig with ringlets, felt hat decked with flowers and feathers. Uh, hi, you wanted to see me? He was very gracious - "What a lovely gown, please, have a seat." LOL I will say this about that - those hoops allowed for a lot of air-flow under the volumnous skirts. They're actually quite cool! Jill > > > "Takayuki" <Takayuki9z@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > considered the ideal and if the real Norma Jean were alive today she would > be considered "fat" and probably would not be able to get work in Hollywood. Which is sad, because many many men like curvey if not outright fat women. Joel's sexiest woman is Queen Latifah, and that woman is *curvey* (even curvier than me). He says that the hollywood glamour pusses wouldn't even rate as a light snack, wheras Queen Latifah and us other "real" women are a good, hearty meal :-). He says he'd probably just break the likes of Minnie Driver and Gwyneth Paltrow. Yowie > > > > "Takayuki" <Takayuki9z@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Yowie Yep, same thing I was saying about my DH - he says he likes something besides bones to snuggle up to and he doesn't want to worry about "sharp edges" causing him bruises when he's bumping bodies! Rosie O'Donnell said the reason she likes Mexican men (not sexually, since she plays for the other team) is because every time they see her she gets a wolf whistle. She asked one once why he thought she was sexy instead of your standard Hollywood issue and he replied, "The bones is for the d*g, the man likes the meat!" LOL Hugs, CatNipped > Joel's sexiest woman is Queen Latifah, and that woman is *curvey* > (even curvier than me). Queen Latifah - YES!!! Joyce "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote: > When I was growing up we had what was called a "floor furnace". It was > essentially a heater that was underneath the floor in the hall and had a > grate on the floor. Oh, we had those when I was a kid, too. We called them "registers". > When it was cold I used to stand over it with a foot on each site > and let the heat billow out my nightgown - yummy warmth! Move over, Marilyn Monroe! :) Joyce > Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started sleeping on the > heating vents in the morning. Although she always picks the one furthest > from the heat monster. My heating vents are up high close to the ceilings. But last night I couldn't pry either cat away from the fireplace. Yes it finally got cold here in Dallas!! Bob >> Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started sleeping on >> the heating vents in the morning. Although she always picks the one [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Bob Yep, mine are up there too. Makes you wonder what the builders were thinking since heat *rises*. Persia loves it when I light a fire. She hunkers down in front of it and watches the flames, then curls up and goes to sleep. In the spring and summer she's the same way, clamouring for a patch of nice warm sunshine :) It was 24F (that's 4C for Hans and company) when I woke up this morning. Yesterday it was 55F (13C) and I ran around outside with only a sweater, no jacket or coat. Those drastic drops really make you feel the chill! Jill >Yep, mine are up there too. Makes you wonder what the builders were >thinking since heat *rises*. Persia loves it when I light a fire. She [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Yesterday it was 55F (13C) and I ran around outside with only a sweater, no >jacket or coat. Those drastic drops really make you feel the chill! How right you are - it's the sudden variations that get you. Seems like I was always either sweating or freezing when stationed at Ft Ord (Monterey/Salinas area of California). Wearing a field jacket for the foggy mornings and then sweating when the sun broke through. Was it Mark Twain who had the quote about San Francisco weather? Can't remember now. Then, when stationed Fairbanks, Alaska the cold didn't seem nearly as bad, even though the temperatures were much much colder. Difference being that it seemed that the drop in temperature was closely tied to how long the sun was up - five minutes less sun equated to 5 degrees colder. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky (RB) stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html > Was it > Mark Twain who had the quote about San Francisco weather? He said that the coldest winter he ever spent was a summer in San Francisco. He also had a line about a man from Sacramento who died and went to hell... he had to come back for a sweater. Katrina (about 20 miles from Sacramento) >> Was it >> Mark Twain who had the quote about San Francisco weather? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Katrina (about 20 miles from Sacramento) 45 miles from Sacramento myself. In Yuba City. We came here from Anchorage Alaska and when the temp tops 100 degrees F. I just remember what it was like to have ice on the inside of the bedroom walls. Its been over 30 years but the memory still cools me right down. Jo >45 miles from Sacramento myself. In Yuba City. We came here from Anchorage >Alaska and when the temp tops 100 degrees F. I just remember what it was >like to have ice on the inside of the bedroom walls. Its been over 30 years >but the memory still cools me right down. When I was in Fairbanks I had a pretty good refrigerator/freezer during the winter. In the barracks our windows had double windows, two panes of glass with a couple inches in the middle. Put something outside both panes and it froze, but something left between the panes stayed cold without freezing (usually). SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky (RB) stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html >>45 miles from Sacramento myself. In Yuba City. We came here from >>Anchorage [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > outside both panes and it froze, but something left between the panes > stayed cold without freezing (usually). Where we lived like most places in Alaska there was a little enclosed entry way, kind of like an air lock for cold air at the front door. We kept frozen food out there all winter. Kind of handy as there was only a tiny freezer in the refrigerator. Jo > It was 24F (that's 4C for Hans and company) when I woke up this morning. Hmmm... 24F has to be below zero in celcius. Let's do the math.. hmmm... (thinking)... (remembering a bookmarked conversion site) -4.4 C .... :) SignatureVictor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >> It was 24F (that's 4C for Hans and company) when I woke up this >> morning. > > Hmmm... 24F has to be below zero in celcius. Let's do the math.. > hmmm... (thinking)... (remembering a bookmarked conversion site) > -4.4 C .... :) Here's a handy converter for your desktop. Neat! http://www.joshmadison.com/software/convert/ SignatureCheryl > Yep, mine are up there too. Makes you wonder what the builders were > thinking since heat *rises*. Persia loves it when I light a fire. She Warm air rises, yep, but cold air sinks. In the summer when running the air conditioner, floor vents wouldn't be very effective! You have to optimize for what you use most, and Dallas can get pretty warm in the summer, so up in the ceiling it goes. }:) -Z SignatureNed Flat: "Why are you acting like this??" Yakko: "We're not acting. We really are like this." Wakko: "Aren't we lucky?" ====================================================== -- Friends don't let friends run Windows. -- >> Yep, mine are up there too. Makes you wonder what the builders were >> thinking since heat *rises*. Persia loves it when I light a fire. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -Z It gets pretty darned hot in Memphis, too, and extremely humid. However, right now it's 22F and the heater fan is working overtime. Jill >It was 24F (that's 4C for Hans and company) when I woke up this morning. >Yesterday it was 55F (13C) and I ran around outside with only a sweater, >no >jacket or coat. Those drastic drops really make you feel the chill! > >Jill It was below 20f here never reached 30f Wed.. Suz Macmoosette =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= =^..^= "People that hate cats will come back as mice in their next life." --Faith Resnick |\__/| (=':'=) (")_(") >>Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started sleeping on the >>heating vents in the morning. Although she always picks the one furthest [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > couldn't pry either cat away from the fireplace. Yes it finally got cold > here in Dallas!! It's still pretty cool up here in Carrollton, where the heat vents are close to the ceiling -- and so is the Penthouse of the cat tree! Nina SignatureProfessional proofreading doesn’t cost – it pays! ninaproofs@earthlink.net www.ninaproofs.com > My heating vents are up high close to the ceilings. But last night I >couldn't pry either cat away from the fireplace. Yes it finally got cold >here in Dallas!! Overnight low of 15 degrees F in Nashville, TN. It got above freezing during the day, but the wind made it a bit sharp. It is the middle of December, after all. It also is a long time until Spring. The kitties are still eager to go outside. They are funny when the snow tickles their tummies. They don't want to plow right through so they leap over the snow. We had snow flurries this morning. Snow usually waits until January to actually accumulate. The cats don't linger around the vents because they don't like wind, even a warm one. > Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started sleeping on > the heating vents in the morning. Although she always picks the one > furthest from the heat monster. Lizzie has been spotted laying right on top of a heat vent, and our house is older, so they are larger than normal, being about 14 inches square (we want to get new covers, but they would be expensive as special orders :( ). When I was a kid, the vent in my bedroom was the closest to the furnace, and when I got cold (which was often, and I heard the furnace kick on, I would go sit on the vent. I used to have this dress that was about knee length, and kinda flowy, it would billow out around me and I would have this "heat tent" all to myself (the only pets we had as kids were the caged kind - hamsers - or goldfish). --? The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)? email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep > > Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started sleeping on > > the heating vents in the morning. Although she always picks the one [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > older, so they are larger than normal, being about 14 inches square (we want > to get new covers, but they would be expensive as special orders :( ). We probably have a couple that need replacing as well. All standard sizes AFAIK. > When I was a kid, the vent in my bedroom was the closest to the furnace, and > when I got cold (which was often, and I heard the furnace kick on, I would > go sit on the vent. I used to have this dress that was about knee length, > and kinda flowy, it would billow out around me and I would have this "heat > tent" all to myself (the only pets we had as kids were the caged kind - > hamsers - or goldfish). I have to try this Nighty/Dress over the vent trick, sounds comfy. LOL. We had two cats and a d*g when I was young. Fluffy (DLH) was the motherly type and always ran over to check me out when I fell down and started bawling. Pretty smart too, she used to open the folding doors by butting them in the middle with her head. Tom, was a basic Tom Cat with a ton of personality. He kept breaking into the house (garage attic) until we decided to keep him. > --? > The ONE and ONLY > lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy > former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)? email me at > nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com > http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep > Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started sleeping on the > heating vents in the morning. Although she always picks the one furthest > from the heat monster. You know, I took that as "vent" as in "kvetching". Generally an office girlfriend and I get together sometime monday morning and kvetch about our otherwise wonderful DH's. They aren't serious complaints, and certainly wouldn't be grounds for divorce, but just to bitch and whine and otherwise let off steam (ie, "vent") about the toilet seat up and the socks on the floor and anything else that would end the with "Men! they're all the same!". Of course we love our DHs dealy, and am quite sure that they go out with their mates and whine about *our* annoying habits, but venting the frustration rather than hanging on to it and letting it fester seems to lower the stress levels. So there I am imagining Cali coming up to you in the morning to vent about the state of the litter tray, the paultry amount of food she gets, and the lack of scritches she's been getting lately. LOL Yowie > > Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started sleeping on the > > heating vents in the morning. Although she always picks the one furthest > > from the heat monster. > > You know, I took that as "vent" as in "kvetching". Somewhat intended. > Generally an office > girlfriend and I get together sometime monday morning and kvetch about our [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > the state of the litter tray, the paultry amount of food she gets, and the > lack of scritches she's been getting lately. LOL Yep. Cali's morning vent is usually about the sad state of her food bowl. :) > Yowie > "Yowie" <yowie9644.DIESPAMDIE@yahoo.com.au> wrote >>So there I am imagining Cali coming up to you in the morning to vent about >>the state of the litter tray, the paultry amount of food she gets, and the >>lack of scritches she's been getting lately. LOL > > Yep. Cali's morning vent is usually about the sad state of her food bowl. :) I don't have any heat vents, but that is what Frank usually vents about in the mornings. Food bowls and sometimes litterboxes. SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki >>> So there I am imagining Cali coming up to you in the morning to >>> vent about the state of the litter tray, the paultry amount of food [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > about > in the mornings. Food bowls and sometimes litterboxes. Persia bopped me on the nose this morning! I jumped and she meowed at me - her bowl was empty. I had to make a stop in the bathroom and her normal "good morning" chatty meows changed to something rather demanding, sounding like "NOW!" She's turning into a fuzzy commando! Jill > >>> So there I am imagining Cali coming up to you in the morning to > >>> vent about the state of the litter tray, the paultry amount of food [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > "good morning" chatty meows changed to something rather demanding, sounding > like "NOW!" She's turning into a fuzzy commando! Cali used to be a morning nose smacker. But lately she's taken a kinder gentler approach. She's been rubbing my face just below my jaw. The little manipulator must think she's giving scritches. > Jill > Now that the colder weather has set in. Cali has started > sleeping on the heating vents in the morning. Although she > always picks the one furthest from the heat monster. I have a heat pump, so the air isn't as warm to the feel as other heat sources. To make up to the furry owners for this mistreatment, I put a heating pad under a cat bed on the couch, and well, whoever gets to it first gets to sit on the warmth for a while. Right now the kittens have it. They deserve it - they had their last shots tonight. TED says they are closer to 4 months old rather than 3, and Rhett weighed in tonight at 4.8 lbs. :) He's going to be a biiiiiiiig boy. Scarlett will probably be very petite - she only weighed in at 3.2 lbs. Ah, must tell a story now. The kittens still spend the night in "their" room and this works out well for everyone. Last night I got home from work and barely had time to feed everyone, and then had to dash off for a dinner date. Got home at bedtime, and let kittens stay out for the night. I woke up this morning to a very loud purry Scarlett under my covers snuggling against my chest. :) I'm not sure where Rhett slept. Bonnie and Shamrock were on my bed, too. SignatureCheryl > I have a heat pump, so the air isn't as warm to the feel as other > heat sources. To make up to the furry owners for this mistreatment, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > biiiiiiiig boy. Scarlett will probably be very petite - she only > weighed in at 3.2 lbs. Another Big Kitten. It's an invasion, I tell you! > Ah, must tell a story now. The kittens still spend the night in > "their" room and this works out well for everyone. Last night I got [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Scarlett under my covers snuggling against my chest. :) I'm not > sure where Rhett slept. Bonnie and Shamrock were on my bed, too. Awwwwww! Any new piccies? SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > Awwwwww! Any new piccies? Soon. :) I'm on holiday from work all next week, so I'm hoping to spend time with the gang and take some pics. Rhett and Scarlett are getting their neuter ops next Thursday and I'm glad I'll be able to be around for the first several days after to keep an eye on things. SignatureCheryl > Soon. :) I'm on holiday from work all next week, so I'm hoping to > spend time with the gang and take some pics. Rhett and Scarlett are > getting their neuter ops next Thursday and I'm glad I'll be able to > be around for the first several days after to keep an eye on things. That's good. I'm off work next week, too. We'll be purring for the kittens on Thursday. SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki Well, Smokey likes to caterwaul until breakfast appears, but I don't think that's what you mean... They must heat the halls really well, because I've turned off all the heat in this apartment and I /still/ walk around comfy in a longsleeve shirt and jeans all winter. Maybe it's because my parents kept THEIR home at 10 degrees C (or less) and maybe it's because I'm a bit of a winter survivalist, but It's quite warm and we don't seem to suffer from cold kitties. They snuggle for luv, not just because we make great heaters :) --Fil > Ah, must tell a story now. The kittens still spend the night in > "their" room and this works out well for everyone. Last night I got [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -- > Cheryl > Well, Smokey likes to caterwaul until breakfast appears, but I don't think > that's what you mean... Cali does gives head butts when she wants fed, whereas our Smokey plops her butt down by her bowl and screams when she's hungry. Cali's on a diet, so she steals Smokey's food every chance she gets. This morning she was in bed sleeping when Smokey started howling for food. By the time I got the food in Smokey's bowl, Cali had made it down from upstairs to check out Smokey's bowl. She had heard Smokey howling and knew food was on the way. Devious, devious cat. > They must heat the halls really well, because I've turned off all the heat > in this apartment and I /still/ walk around comfy in a longsleeve shirt and [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > -- > > Cheryl As of two days ago I have heat again!!! Big smile! The landlord replaced the heat pump. And yes, the cats love to sleep on the vents. Although they move to the bed at night to snuggle on the electric blanket. ~jemifer(& Simba & Pepper) >As of two days ago I have heat again!!! Big smile! The landlord >replaced the heat pump. And yes, the cats love to sleep on the vents. >Although they move to the bed at night to snuggle on the electric >blanket. > >~jemifer(& Simba & Pepper) Thats great. 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