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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / December 2004RPCA "Guardians"?
Okay, if we're worried about posters going missing, how about we have designated "guardians" who check up on us if we go missing without notice? I always tell you when I'm going out of town with my long-lost. If I were to disappear without any notice for a couple of weeks or a month, it might be nice for someone to call and find out if I'm lying in the bathtub packed in ice with a kidney missing. (teasing) Also to check on Persia and my bird. No, I don't have family who would bother and since I'm unemployed it's not uncommon my car is parked outside my apartment without moving for a few days. Anyone want to be my rpca "guardian"? I'll volunteer to be someone's :) OB Cats: It's hit low temps for the year and Persia snuggled extra close last night, letting me hold her paws (!) and laying her soft little head on my hand. She's so nice and warm. I love snuggling with her and listening to and feeling her purr. I'm grateful she lets me! Jill > Okay, if we're worried about posters going missing, how about we have > designated "guardians" who check up on us if we go missing without [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Anyone want to be my rpca "guardian"? I'll volunteer to be someone's > :) Weeble will volunteer, if only for a chance to go visit *his* Persia (where they will play with mousies, wash each other's faces, explore the kittywalk together, curl up together in the yin/yang poistion, and laugh at the stupid birdie and it's baths). > OB Cats: It's hit low temps for the year and Persia snuggled extra > close last night, letting me hold her paws (!) and laying her soft [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Jill Aaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :D --? The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)? email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep >> Okay, if we're worried about posters going missing, how about we have >> designated "guardians" who check up on us if we go missing without [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > the kittywalk together, curl up together in the yin/yang poistion, > and laugh at the stupid birdie and it's baths). I sent you my contact info :) Please pass it along to Weeble. I included the number to my apartment office; I notify them if I'll be out of town. I also sent you the number of a friend, who, while she's in Minnesota, has no problem being contacted by a "crazy cat lady" if I go missing. I regularly chat with her on mIRC so she usually knows what's up with me. Jill >>> Okay, if we're worried about posters going missing, how about we >>> have designated "guardians" who check up on us if we go missing [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Jill Got it - and it's filed away. Just hope my computer doesn't get sick if you ever go missing. LOL --? The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)? email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep >>>> Okay, if we're worried about posters going missing, how about we >>>> have designated "guardians" who check up on us if we go missing [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Got it - and it's filed away. Just hope my computer doesn't get sick > if you ever go missing. LOL Ever heard of something called a paper address book? <G> Sometimes I think we are *far* too dependent on these danged machines :) Jill > Okay, if we're worried about posters going missing, how about we have > designated "guardians" who check up on us if we go missing without notice? We did this a few years ago and I think its a wonderful idea. Several years ago when Dave Y was hospitalized Patti knew we would all be worried and she came on line to let us know what was happening. I'm not so sure my DH would think to do the same or know the importance of doing it (at least until he missed the holiday cards). I'll happily exchange information with you Jill if you'd like. Julie > Anyone want to be my rpca "guardian"? I'll volunteer to be someone's :) Why not compile a global list of names and telephone numbers (including perhaps a neighbor's or relative's number?) in one location? That way we all share in the responsibility and there's no risk of someone being left out. We can setup a file in catslaves that is only accessible to members, that way we dont' get trolls or spammers.  SignatureVictor Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >We can setup a file in catslaves that is only accessible to members, >that way we dont' get trolls or spammers. I think it's a really good idea to have a file, but how secure is catslaves? I'm not wiggy about my own personal info., I don't mind posting that, but I"m not sure about relatives/friends' information. Maybe an e-mail file, like Pam did the Christmas list? Sherry > I think it's a really good idea to have a file, but how secure is catslaves? > I'm not wiggy about my own personal info., I don't mind posting that, but I"m > not sure about relatives/friends' information. Maybe an e-mail file, like Pam > did the Christmas list? OH NO!!! You ain't nailing me with that one. I'm planning on resigning as the Christmas List Compiler. Some one can have my files for next year. Pam S. still putting off sending out her cards... >OH NO!!! You ain't nailing me with that one. I'm planning on resigning >as the Christmas List Compiler. Some one can have my files for next year. > >Pam S. still putting off sending out her cards... HA. Just try to resign, Missy. You did an awesome job. Sherry >> We can setup a file in catslaves that is only accessible to members, >> that way we dont' get trolls or spammers. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sherry I've never been to catslaves. I see references to it here on occasion but have no idea where it is or how to get there. At any rate, I'd rather just give you folks the number for contacting me and perhaps my apartment office in case my phone goes unanswered. Jill > >We can setup a file in catslaves that is only accessible to members, > >that way we dont' get trolls or spammers. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > not sure about relatives/friends' information. Maybe an e-mail file, like Pam > did the Christmas list? Catslaves is *relatively* secure, no-one gets past the gate without convincing me they're genuine. However, I am not foolproof and Yahoogroups are not foolproof either. I wouldn't really recommend Catslaves as a place to store phone numbers or addresses. However, it is a great place to send e-mail to most of RPCA if your newsserver goes kaput, and I'd recommend that people join it even if they elect to receive special notices only (Only the moderators can send those out, and it has to be exceptionally important for that to happen - I think two have been sent out inthe ast 4 years). Unless its a duplicate account (eg, you've got one for work and one for home) I really don't like people going to "no mail" as the whole point of Catslaves was to have a way of contacting each other quickly and easily (it was created inteh aftermath of 9/11). To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/catslaves and follow the instructions. It makes life easier if you have a YahooID, but if you really object to having a Yahoo ID then you can also subscribe by sending an e-mail to catslaves-subscribe@yahoogroups.com, but if you do it that way, you won't be able to see the group's pictures, put stuff in the group's Calendar or use any of the other group features. Those of you on the Christmas Card list have already given your name and address. Thats a pretty good way of tracking you down already. I'd hazard a guess that most of us are listed in the phone directories or that someone is within driving distance if it was an emergency. The only people who are not within face to face contact distance is Britta and perhaps Polonca, the rest of us have at least one person who could be considered a "neighbour" at least in Global terms. What I'd recommend is that people look at the Christmas Card list and contact their closest neighbours. As well as being an emergency contact, you also get to meet a friend in person. My logical contacts are Tish and Jean, who, as well as knowing my home phone number, are both close enough to knock on my door if needs be. I'm also in regular contact with Bridget, and infrequent, but still reliable contact with Flippy and Dave G, if that helps. And yes, I'm volunteering to compile a list of who is who's "emergency contact" if that is what the group wants. Yowie > > Anyone want to be my rpca "guardian"? I'll volunteer to be someone's :) > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > We can setup a file in catslaves that is only accessible to members, > that way we dont' get trolls or spammers. This would be a great idea. I know I would feel better. It's very conceivable that if something happened to me, no one would know and it is a worry for me. >> We can setup a file in catslaves that is only accessible to members, >> that way we dont' get trolls or spammers. >> >This would be a great idea. I know I would feel better. It's very >conceivable that if something happened to me, no one would know and it is a >worry for me. I certainly think a lot of people here would notice. It would be like, "That's strange... Karen hasn't posted for nearly two hours. There must be something wrong!" > Okay, if we're worried about posters going missing, how about we have > designated "guardians" who check up on us if we go missing without notice? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > it's not uncommon my car is parked outside my apartment without moving for a > few days. What an EXCELLENT idea, Jill. The main problem I personally have is that it is not unusual for me to drop off the face of the earth for up to a week or so, depending on my health. I do have caring hubby and kids to take care of such details, but there are a lot who do not. I think it should be a personal choice of the poster whether or not they want or need a personal guardian. If I've been gone for more than a few weeks, I would appreciate someone checking to find out where to find the body. I'm also willing to do for someone else if they should desire. Just email me (take out the obvious) and we can set up a reciprocal system. I'm so pleased with such a simple and elegant solution to the problem of disappearing posters. We can call it a Missing Posters Bureau. Pam S. wanting to be a detective of the MPB >> Okay, if we're worried about posters going missing, how about we have >> designated "guardians" who check up on us if we go missing without [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Pam S. wanting to be a detective of the MPB If you live with someone and have kids to check up on you, you probably wouldn't need this. There are quite a few people who post here live alone, and not in constant touch with family. Anything could happen to them and who would know except wondering why no reply on the phone for a fortnight. And leaving it for a bit longer in case you are out every night enjoying yourself. How about this? We each of us at risk have two or three people who note whether we post in the last.. whatever, week or less? More than one person, obviously, in case someone drops off the group and isn't checking. Dunno whether it might be best to have a "partner" to do this for each other, or post on the group within an agreed time span. What do you all think? Tweed I now live on my own, apart from the TT of course, but have frequent & regular contact with friends and neighbours. But it still seems a good idea for a network of near-neighbours (in the same country at least to be of use I suspect) to look out for one another & check up on unexplained silences. So I'm happy to be counted in. I'd rather not have my personal details in a widely available international database, though, as I also loathe unsolicited phone calls & spam etc. Purrs to all Gordon & the TT > If you live with someone and have kids to check up on you, you > probably wouldn't need this. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > other, or post on the group within an agreed time span. > What do you all think? >> Okay, if we're worried about posters going missing, how about we have >> designated "guardians" who check up on us if we go missing without [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The main problem I personally have is that it is not unusual for me to > drop off the face of the earth for up to a week or so, A week or so really isn't that long. My last trip with John had me gone for 2 weeks, but again, I tell you folks (and my other ng folks who might care - they aren't nearly as nice as you guys!) when I'm taking a trip. depending on my > health. I do have caring hubby and kids to take care of such details, > but there are a lot who do not. I think it should be a personal > choice > of the poster whether or not they want or need a personal guardian. Agreed. Also, not to be rude to anyone - I do NOT like chatting on the phone. So if I give out my number, please don't just ring up to say "hi". I'll be polite but I'll give you the bums rush to get off the dang thing. I suppose it comes from having done phone tech support for so long - phones are EVIL! > If I've been gone for more than a few weeks, I would appreciate > someone checking to find out where to find the body. I'm also [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Pam S. wanting to be a detective of the MPB I love the name! <G> Jill > Agreed. Also, not to be rude to anyone - I do NOT like chatting on the > phone. So if I give out my number, please don't just ring up to say "hi". > I'll be polite but I'll give you the bums rush to get off the dang thing. > I > suppose it comes from having done phone tech support for so long - phones > are EVIL! DH is the same way - and *he* does phone support. Very understandable. > Jill > Okay, if we're worried about posters going missing, how about we have > designated "guardians" who check up on us if we go missing without notice? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Jill Jill, I love the idea. I live alone also and although my brothers live just a town away, I don't hear from them too often. I would be interested in anything the group comes up with. Bob "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> had some very interesting things to say about RPCA "Guardians"?: >Okay, if we're worried about posters going missing, how about we have >designated "guardians" who check up on us if we go missing without notice? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >my hand. She's so nice and warm. I love snuggling with her and listening >to and feeling her purr. I'm grateful she lets me! I can handle phoning just about anyone, or in-person checks within probably an hour or two radius of Sacramento. Anyone who wants my current address and phone #, please let me know and I'll e-mail you that info [current phone # is unlisted]. Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL > "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> had some very interesting things > to say about RPCA "Guardians"?: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Anyone who wants my current address and phone #, please let me know > and I'll e-mail you that info [current phone # is unlisted]. I'd be happy to exchange information with someone in the L.A. area. I also live alone, except for my cats. My mother and I exchange email every day normally, but she's in Alaska. My kids live within an hour's drive or so, but we often go several days without contacting each other. I have thought about the possibility of having a stroke or falling and hitting my head, and wondered how long it would be before somebody decided to check. If people who live fairly close to each other pair up and exchange information, they can at least make a phone call without it costing a fortune. My kids are computer savvy and know I would want my newsgroups informed if anything happened, but of course that presupposes they would know there was anything wrong. Joy Here's the sort of format I was thinking of: Person Who to contact: Tish Yowie (yowie9644@yahoo.comDOTau) Gracecat Bridget (xxx@....,) Pams S (xxxx@...) Yowie Tish (xxx@...), Flippy (xxx@...), Jean (xxx@...) Etc That way, you don't have to tell all and sundry our real names, addresses or phone numbers etc, just one or two people we trust. If any of us notice that a person is not posting regularly, we just have to look them up and e-mail their contact(s) to see whats going on. Their contact can then take whatever steps they think are appropriate to find out if they're OK, and can report back to the group. Comments, questions, criticisms etc etc? Great idea, Jill. Yowie > Here's the sort of format I was thinking of: > > Person Who to contact: > Tish Yowie (yowie9644@yahoo.comDOTau) > Gracecat Bridget (xxx@....,) Pams S (xxxx@...) > Yowie Tish (xxx@...), Flippy (xxx@...), Jean (xxx@...) My nearest RPCA contact would be Lisa in Raleigh. I'd hate for her to have to drive down here if I went out of contact. In my case it would be a form of call list Pam S., Fayetteville NC, Call: Jim @ 910......, Carol @ 910......, Betty or Glen @ 208...... starting with the one most likely to have information about my whereabouts and problems. Pam S. > > Here's the sort of format I was thinking of: > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > My nearest RPCA contact would be Lisa in Raleigh. I'd hate for her to > have to drive down here if I went out of contact. Doesnt' have to be a local (although that would be good), just someone you stay in regular contact with that we can talk to if you go missing. Another RPCA person would be great, but it could be anyone who is willing to answer an e-mail that says "Whats happened to Pam?". It could be a buddy from half way around the world, just as long as they know how to contact you (or would most likely be up on your latest news) and OK with an e-mail from one of those crazy catpeople. Heck, the amount of times I've called Bridget at 4am (my time) after Cary has woken me up, I may as well put her down for one of my contacts. Yowie Perhaps it might be useful to have a list at least by country, major subdivision and city (if the latter is applicable). On a couple of newsgroups I frequent, alt.books.tom-clancy, alt.fan.heinlein, and sci.military.naval, there's become quite a tradition of get-togethers, usually spawned by someone visiting -- and it's a group that tends to have a good deal of business travel. I have had occasions to do true emergency support from around 3000 miles away, and it's something to think about if you do have a "buddy". The easier case was with my honorary daughter, who was going in and out of consciousness while on the phone with me. Luckily, I have multiple phone lines and conferencing capability, as well as a separate computer connection -- since I obviously couldn't dial the local emergency number (911 in North America) for a city in British Columbia from the Virginia suburbs of Washington DC, I wound up getting a phone number for a municipal library, calling them to get the direct number to the emergency medical service, and then conferencing my friend and the EMS dispatcher. The dispatcher and I kept her semi-aware until the paramedics got there, and then I gave her medical history to them -- she had passed out by then. The other case was even more challenging -- someone I knew through a chatroom had come on, having taken an overdose of drugs. I did have an email address, but that was all. Luckily, I'm well tied in to the worldwide Internet engineering community, and was able to trace back to the ISP, found out her actual ISP was a client of theirs, and then provide enough referenes to convince them to call the local EMS. >Here's the sort of format I was thinking of: > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Yowie Of the people on the Card List, Karen is the closest to me. But I seem to remember someone else posting here who lives in Colorado. I am also not too far from New Mexico. As for a phone number, my phone line is always on the Internet! But I have voice mail from work and my son has voice mail over the internet. He lives with me. But if anything happens to me would he remember to tell the group? And we were just talking the other day about what if we were both on the way to the city and were killed, who would check on us and would the cats starve to death before anyone did? I think I will make arrangements with my landlord (he is a sweetie) for that extreme. But I will give my pager and voice mail and my son's info to Karen and, let's see, OK is not that far off either. So, Karen, if you want to be interchangeable guardians with me, just email! Should we just have one, or is it better to have two or three guardians? -- CATherine >But I will give my pager and voice mail and my son's info to Karen >and, let's see, OK is not that far off either. So, Karen, if you want [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >-- >CATherine I have plenty of family members around to check. Too many, actually :-) I threatened to have an Onstar chip implanted in my teeth so they can quit calling and just log on to their computers and see where I am. But none of them are computer-savvy and even DH only vaguely knows about my newsgroup activities. If anything happened to me I don't think anyone would post. Sherry >> Here's the sort of format I was thinking of: >> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > -- > CATherine Ok, although I would NOT expect you to drive here. It's still a LONNNNG way away :) >Of the people on the Card List, Karen is the closest to me. But I seem >to remember someone else posting here who lives in Colorado. I am also [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >-- >CATherine That's one of my problems, even though it is written in my will information to post to this group. My DH doesn't write well and wouldn't know how to access a newsgroup if it walked up to him and said "Hello". ;-) I think Bridget is the closest to me physically. Yowie's got her covered, but Bridget, if you want a second "guardian" geographically closer, let me know. And if there's anyone else in the Ohio/Indiana/Pennsylvania/Kentucky/West Virginia area, I'm reasonably close to all of those, so let me know. Ginger-lyn > Okay, if we're worried about posters going missing, how about we have > designated "guardians" who check up on us if we go missing without notice? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Jill If you live alone and have no close family, I feel you should ask a neighbor "to keep an eye out" for you and you can do the same for them. That is what we do in my condominium of 120 units. If anything appears worrisome it is reported to "management" and then investigated. Needless to say, many times over the years this has proved useful. MLB >> Okay, if we're worried about posters going missing, how about we have >> designated "guardians" who check up on us if we go missing without [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > investigated. Needless > to say, many times over the years this has proved useful. MLB That would work except *I* have lived here for 8 years but none of my neighbors have ever stayed more than 6 months. (This is not a commentary about me, I assure you! I'm very quiet and don't bother anyone.) I barely have time to learn their names when I see them in the parking lot before they move out. Jill |
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