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Pat - 24 Jul 2008 18:19 GMT
I knew he had gained some because I had to loosen his harness. It was a
pleasant surprise discovering that he is back up to more than 6.5 lbs. When
he's at least 8 lbs. I will quit worrying that he's too thin. He'll need to
have that much weight to have a chance of being semi-comfortable this
winter.
kilikini - 24 Jul 2008 20:37 GMT
> I knew he had gained some because I had to loosen his harness. It was
> a pleasant surprise discovering that he is back up to more than 6.5
> lbs. When he's at least 8 lbs. I will quit worrying that he's too
> thin. He'll need to have that much weight to have a chance of being
> semi-comfortable this winter.

Well dang!  This news just keeps getting better!  Congrats to you and
Abelard!

kili
Adrian - 24 Jul 2008 21:37 GMT
> I knew he had gained some because I had to loosen his harness. It was
> a pleasant surprise discovering that he is back up to more than 6.5
> lbs. When he's at least 8 lbs. I will quit worrying that he's too
> thin. He'll need to have that much weight to have a chance of being
> semi-comfortable this winter.

That's great news, I hope he continues to gain weight.
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Gandalf - 25 Jul 2008 06:33 GMT
>I knew he had gained some because I had to loosen his harness. It was a
>pleasant surprise discovering that he is back up to more than 6.5 lbs. When
>he's at least 8 lbs. I will quit worrying that he's too thin. He'll need to
>have that much weight to have a chance of being semi-comfortable this
>winter.

Wow, that seems so *light* to me, for an adult cat!

But every ounce gained is a big step in the right direction, of course.

Just keep spoiling him, unmercifully.

I know what you mean about winter! It's hard for *me* to stay warm, and
I can add more clothing.

I spoil my Kenzie with a heated bed in the winter. While I'm at work,
and at night, it's only 55F (13C) in my house.

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Pat - 25 Jul 2008 07:22 GMT
| Wow, that seems so *light* to me, for an adult cat!

Even when he was at his heaviest (about 10 lbs) he was the smallest adult
cat I've ever been owned by.

| Just keep spoiling him, unmercifully.

I wish he would spoil *me* just a little bit. I mean, the least he could do
would be poop in a litterbox. I've given up on getting him to use a box to
pee, and now he's stopped using them to poop, too. It's getting very
tiring.....

| I know what you mean about winter! It's hard for *me* to stay warm, and
| I can add more clothing.

Right about now I'd like to know how to get cool. It's so damned hot in my
house that I can't sleep.

| I spoil my Kenzie with a heated bed in the winter.

Aby has plenty of warm spots to sleep in winter, but as soon as he gets out
of bed he shivers like a little chihuahua.
Yowie - 25 Jul 2008 11:58 GMT
>> I knew he had gained some because I had to loosen his harness. It
>> was a pleasant surprise discovering that he is back up to more than
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> I spoil my Kenzie with a heated bed in the winter. While I'm at work,
> and at night, it's only 55F (13C) in my house.

Is that considered cold for inside the house on a winter night?

It gets colder here at night (down to about 10C, 50F, sometimes a little
colder) and I've never bothered to leave the heating on after I've gone to
bed. One nice thick doona (duvet, comforter) and flannelette pyjamas and I'm
toasty warm. I figure the cats, having a natural fur coat, can easily cope
with those sorts of temperatures.

I get up in the morning and turn the A/C on for an hour or so before the sun
starts coming through the northern windows and warms up the place - it keeps
the place warm all day (and sometimes we have to open up the windows, even
on winter days, because of the sun). The A/C comes back on at some point
after the sun going down, and usually stays on till we go to bed. But at the
moment, with me sitting in my flanny PJs and bedsocks (yes, such a sexy
image), I am perfectly comfortable without the A/C. Suki is curled up on the
printer (which will no doubt soon suffer the same cause of death as the two
previous ones - cat hair overload), Shadow is curled up on 'her' mat on the
kitchen floor (woe betide another cat that thinks of putting so much as a
whisker near its perimeter) and Pickle is once again shedding into the clean
laundry pile. None of them are seeking out the natural heat sources (me, the
computers, the top of the tv, top of the fish tank light, etc). I reckon its
about 13C, 55F in here at the moment.

Yowie
Sherry - 25 Jul 2008 18:34 GMT
> >> I knew he had gained some because I had to loosen his harness. It
> >> was a pleasant surprise discovering that he is back up to more than
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55 would be freezing cold indoors to me. In the winter, our heat is
set at about 74
in the daytime, 70 at night.
Sherry
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 25 Jul 2008 20:31 GMT
> I get up in the morning and turn the A/C on for an hour or so before the sun
> starts coming through the northern windows and warms up the place - it keeps
> the place warm all day (and sometimes we have to open up the windows, even
> on winter days, because of the sun). The A/C comes back on at some point
> after the sun going down, and usually stays on till we go to bed.

I'm confused. You have the A/C on in the evenings in the winter??

Do you mean something different from what I mean by A/C (air conditioning,
what is used to *cool down* a house or room during hot weather)?

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Yowie - 25 Jul 2008 22:53 GMT
>> I get up in the morning and turn the A/C on for an hour or so before
>> the sun starts coming through the northern windows and warms up the
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> conditioning, what is used to *cool down* a house or room during hot
> weather)?

We have reverse cycle A/C, it can be set to either cool down, to warm up, to
maintain 'x' temperature, or just de-humidfy the air.

Natureally, in the last few months, I've had it set on 'warm' or 'maintain'
when its needed. Its not needed when we're all in bed, under our winter
blankets (or doonas) or during the day when the sun comes through the
northern windows and warms the place.

Yowie

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outsider - 25 Jul 2008 23:29 GMT
> > I get up in the morning and turn the A/C on for an hour or so before
> > the sun starts coming through the northern windows and warms up the
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> conditioning, what is used to *cool down* a house or room during hot
> weather)?

I think in the US we might say heat pump for a reversable A/C but maybe
folks with those even say heat and A/C according to what mode they are
running.  Aren't you (Joyce) in a "heat pump" area?  We get too cold here
so they are not popular for this area.

Andy
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 26 Jul 2008 00:18 GMT
I love how this subject line typifies thread drift on RPCA. :)

> I think in the US we might say heat pump for a reversable A/C but maybe
> folks with those even say heat and A/C according to what mode they are
> running.  Aren't you (Joyce) in a "heat pump" area?

Hmm, I'm not sure what that means. In my apartment building, we have
electric heat. They're baseboard space heaters, one for each room
(except kitchen and bathroom). I don't know if that's relevant to
your question or not, because I'm not sure what "heat pump" means. I've
never heard the phrase before, though. Since I'm a renter I tend not to
pay close attention to that stuff. I just call it "the heat". :)

The building doesn't come with a/c (by which I mean only air-cooling and
dehumidifying), although I bought a small window unit which cools just
one room. I don't use it that often though - I used it mainly when I was
working at home on extremely hot days. Don't work at home anymore. Mostly
it's pretty temperate where I live, so a fan does the job pretty well.

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outsider - 26 Jul 2008 01:30 GMT
> I love how this subject line typifies thread drift on RPCA. :)

Yeah.



> > I think in the US we might say heat pump for a reversable A/C but
> > maybe folks with those even say heat and A/C according to what mode
> > they are running.  Aren't you (Joyce) in a "heat pump" area?
>
> Hmm, I'm not sure what that means. In my apartment building, we have
> electric heat.

Heat pumps are popular where the need for A/C is high but the need for heat
is not great.  In those locations heat pumps are economical compared to
other sources but I don't think they can produce enough heat for northern
locations.  I think that is how it works.
Yowie - 26 Jul 2008 02:03 GMT
>> I love how this subject line typifies thread drift on RPCA. :)
>
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> compared to other sources but I don't think they can produce enough
> heat for northern locations.  I think that is how it works.

That would be us :-). Need for cool temps in summer is great (it got to 52C,
125F in the kitchen one year before we had a/c), need for warming in winter
is desirable, but not great. It never snows here, for example, and even
frosts are very rare.

Students that come for work experience from places like Canada and Northern
America always complain they're very cold in winter - thats because our
houses don't usually come with built-in heating or insulation, and usually
cheap rental accomodation has no heat (besides the stove top) at all. In
cheap rental accomodation, if its 10C outside, it will probably be close to
10C on the inside, too. When I was flatting, a two bar electric radiant
heater did the trick, though, and warmed the lounge/dining/kitchen of the 2
bedroom apartment quite adequately, but we had to puchase that ourselves. It
just plugged into a normal electric wall socket.

I live at about he same latitude (except south) as Charleston, South
Carolina, and near the coast like Charleston. That should give you a rough
idea of my climate.

Yowie
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 26 Jul 2008 02:22 GMT
> I live at about he same latitude (except south) as Charleston, South
> Carolina, and near the coast like Charleston. That should give you a rough
> idea of my climate.

Do you have high humidity, too? I think South Carolina is very humid.
I've never been there, but in general the southern east coast of the US
is very humid.

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tanadashoes - 26 Jul 2008 03:39 GMT
> > I live at about he same latitude (except south) as Charleston, South
> > Carolina, and near the coast like Charleston. That should give you a
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> I've never been there, but in general the southern east coast of the US
> is very humid.

Charleston SC usually has 85%+ humidity, as does our area.  They average
5-10 F hotter than us as well.  We have a heat pump, we do use it every
winter and it usually works well enough, but we also have a fireplace with
an insert that works when it gets really cold as the furnace doesn't warm
enough for us to get away with regular shirt sleeves and I hate asking
family and friends to wear sweaters ala Jimmy Carter.

Pam S.
Yowie - 27 Jul 2008 12:33 GMT
>>> I live at about he same latitude (except south) as Charleston, South
>>> Carolina, and near the coast like Charleston. That should give you a
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> shirt sleeves and I hate asking family and friends to wear sweaters
> ala Jimmy Carter.

Yup, we're on the coast and generally humid (around 80%). Thats the big
difference between Sydney & Melbourne - Sydney is by & large quite humid,
whereas Melbourne isn't.

I am very sensitive to dry air, I get really flakey, itchy skin (especially
my scalp & face). I don't like using the reverse cycle a/c to heat because
its always very dry air, but it is by far the cheapest option so put up with
it.

Yowie
Wayne Mitchell - 26 Jul 2008 14:43 GMT
>Students that come for work experience from places like Canada and Northern
>America always complain they're very cold in winter - thats because our
>houses don't usually come with built-in heating or insulation, and usually
>cheap rental accomodation has no heat (besides the stove top) at all. In
>cheap rental accomodation, if its 10C outside, it will probably be close to
>10C on the inside, too.

I can relate to the students' situation.  I was raised here in Maine --
well north in the US and considered by most folks a cold place to be in
winter.  But the coldest I've ever been for any length of time was when
I was a student in Monterey, California -- an area that doesn't have any
real winter (and unfortunately also doesn't have any real summer).  Not
having any winter to worry about, student accommodation was not heated
very well; and the typical daytime temperature for eleven months out of
the year is 55 degrees F (13C).  So daytime indoor temperature generally
ranged from 50F in the morning to 60F in the afternoon -- and we here in
the cold north consider that downright frigid.
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Jofirey - 26 Jul 2008 15:47 GMT
>>Students that come for work experience from places like Canada and
>>Northern
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> here in
> the cold north consider that downright frigid.

Not to mention their famous 'marine layer' that makes sure you are
always damp as well as cold.

At least real cold like you get in Maine tends to dry the air out.

Jo
Sherry - 26 Jul 2008 02:06 GMT
> bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote innews:488a5f5a$0$17194$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:
>
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> other sources but I don't think they can produce enough heat for northern
> locations.  I think that is how it works.

We have a heat pump. Like you said, it's great in the summer, but when
it's really frigid outdoors, it doesn't seem to warm the house well.
Normal operation when it's
really cold is that it blows lukewarm air, constantly. You never get a
blast of hot
air like you do with a gas furnace. It seems very efficient though;
our bills are much lower than neighbors with regular electric central
heat.

Sherry

Sherry
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 26 Jul 2008 02:19 GMT
> Heat pumps are popular where the need for A/C is high but the need for heat
> is not great.  In those locations heat pumps are economical compared to
> other sources but I don't think they can produce enough heat for northern
> locations.  I think that is how it works.

OK, then I doubt I have a heat pump. It might produce enough heat for
the winter here, but we don't have a great need for A/C. Most homes do
not have A/C around here. It's often foggy and cool in the summer, with
the occasional very hot day, but not enough of them to justify installing
central air conditioning.

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Christina Websell - 25 Jul 2008 23:12 GMT
>>> I knew he had gained some because I had to loosen his harness. It
>>> was a pleasant surprise discovering that he is back up to more than
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> the fish tank light, etc). I reckon its about 13C, 55F in here at the
> moment.

That would be "warm" for my house in the winter if I was out at work or in
bed (which means my woodburner would be too)
Am I the only person who has found my flannel (face towel) had fallen into
the bath and frozen to the plughole overnight?  Probably ;-)

Tweed
Adrian - 26 Jul 2008 11:21 GMT
>>>> I knew he had gained some because I had to loosen his harness. It
>>>> was a pleasant surprise discovering that he is back up to more than
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>
> Tweed

I have a glass of water by my bed at night, more than once I've gone to take
a sip and found it frozen.
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Sherry - 26 Jul 2008 14:08 GMT
> >>>> I knew he had gained some because I had to loosen his harness. It
> >>>> was a pleasant surprise discovering that he is back up to more than
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Wow! You are of much more hardy stock than I. That is a compliment. I
know
it's a wasteful use of energy to keep the house so warm at night. But
I
just can't stand it. I'm a disgrace to my pioneer ancesters :-)
I've also heard it is healthier to sleep in a cooler house.

Sherry
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 25 Jul 2008 07:30 GMT
> I knew he had gained some because I had to loosen his harness. It was a
> pleasant surprise discovering that he is back up to more than 6.5 lbs. When
> he's at least 8 lbs. I will quit worrying that he's too thin. He'll need to
> have that much weight to have a chance of being semi-comfortable this
> winter.

That's great news. What did he weigh at his lowest (I mean, with this
illness)?

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Christina Websell - 26 Jul 2008 19:05 GMT
>I knew he had gained some because I had to loosen his harness. It was a
> pleasant surprise discovering that he is back up to more than 6.5 lbs.
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> have that much weight to have a chance of being semi-comfortable this
> winter.

That's really good news that he's gaining.  What would a normal weight for a
male Aby be?  I've not met many, but they seem quite light-framed, slender
cats, 8lbs would be quite chunky ;-)

Tweed
Pat - 26 Jul 2008 19:56 GMT
| What would a normal weight for a male Aby be? I've not
| met many, but they seem quite light-framed, slender
| cats, 8lbs would be quite chunky ;-)

Normal is 9-10 lbs. Abelard has been up to at least 10 lbs. since I moved to
town. His adult weight on the farm was around 7-7.5 because he was always
out and about and often missed meals at home. He was too thin then. I was
very pleased when he went up to 9, then 10 in the last couple of years.

The 2nd time he went to the vet for the recent emergency, he weighed in @
8.8 lbs, but then I had trouble feeding him, off and on for several weeks
after that, and he became emaciated. Now he is on the way back up.
rb - 27 Jul 2008 02:34 GMT
> I knew he had gained some because I had to loosen his harness. It was a
> pleasant surprise discovering that he is back up to more than 6.5 lbs. When
> he's at least 8 lbs. I will quit worrying that he's too thin. He'll need to
> have that much weight to have a chance of being semi-comfortable this
> winter.

Glad to hear that he is picking up weight! I am sure he will be back up
to normal in no time.

rrb
 
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