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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / December 2004OT: but very important
In one thread we are talking about security for our PC's. I mentioned that Microsoft has released a major security update for Internet Explorer. It seems to be quite important for people who are using the affected versions of the software. Go to thist page to find out a bit more, and to see if you need to install it or not. http://www.microsoft.com/security/bulletins/200412_windows.mspx  SignatureDick #1349 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com email: dickcr@comcast.net > In one thread we are talking about security for our PC's. I mentioned > that Microsoft has released a major security update for Internet [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > install it or not. > http://www.microsoft.com/security/bulletins/200412_windows.mspx Do not even click on it. My Windows XP updates itself regularly overnight. I definitely don't need to click on this link, and I advise everyone else not to. It's likely to be a virus. DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK. Tweed >>In one thread we are talking about security for our PC's. I mentioned >>that Microsoft has released a major security update for Internet [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Tweed I checked it out (from my Mac), the link is legitimate. The software affected is: * Internet Explorer 6 SP1 on Windows 2000 SP3, Windows 2000 SP4, or Windows XP SP1 * Internet Explorer 6 SP1 on Windows NT Server 4.0 SP6a; Windows NT Server 4.0, Terminal Service Edition SP6; Windows 98; Windows 98 SE; or Windows Me * Internet Explorer 6 for Windows XP 64-Bit Edition SP1 -Caroline S. "Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> had some very interesting things to say about Re: but very important: >> In one thread we are talking about security for our PC's. I mentioned >> that Microsoft has released a major security update for Internet [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >not to. It's likely to be a virus. >DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK. Sorry, but you're overreacting on this one. I ran Windows Update and got exactly the info the link you're scared of presents. This one's real, and NOT a threat. I'm on Windows 2000 and rarely use IE, so I did appreciate the heads-up. Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Christina Websell wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes >> In one thread we are talking about security for our PC's. I mentioned >> that Microsoft has released a major security update for Internet [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > everyone else not to. It's likely to be a virus. > DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK. I beg your pardon. Check the link, it is microsoft. And the upgrade has been in the news. Unless you think that Microsoft is a virus. Oh, by the way, I do not allow Microsoft to automatically upgrade my machine. I do turn off all things like that so that I do not get viruses and spyware. SignatureDick #1349 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com email: dickcr@comcast.net Dick C <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> had some very interesting things to say about Re: but very important: >I beg your pardon. Check the link, it is microsoft. And the upgrade >has been in the news. Unless you think that Microsoft is a virus. I think a valid case could be made for that POV. ;-) Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Seanette Blaylock wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes > Dick C <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> had some very interesting things to > say about Re: but very important: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I think a valid case could be made for that POV. ;-) I used to work in a computer company that dealt with Unix machines. But we could rent pc's for home use. The system administrator was in charge of putting them together and keeping them running. One day I walked into his office, and saw him bent over one of the PC's. He looked at me and whined "Dick, I have DOS all over my hands!". :-) SignatureDick #1349 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com email: dickcr@comcast.net Dick C <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> had some very interesting things to say about Re: but very important: >>>I beg your pardon. Check the link, it is microsoft. And the upgrade >>>has been in the news. Unless you think that Microsoft is a virus. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >He looked at me and whined "Dick, I have DOS all over my hands!". >:-) LOL!!! Actually, I liked DOS and was fairly disgusted when GUIs became the standard. Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Seanette Blaylock wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes > Dick C <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> had some very interesting things to > say about Re: but very important: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Actually, I liked DOS and was fairly disgusted when GUIs became the > standard. There is a lot to say for the command line OS's. I spent about 13 years going to the command line on different machines at work. And even now, with the proliferation of guis for Linux and Unix, they all have terminal sessions that are easy to open. Much easier than Windows. Of course, almost all programs in Windows are Gui based, so that makes no difference. SignatureDick #1349 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com email: dickcr@comcast.net >Dick C <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> had some very interesting things to >say about Re: but very important: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Actually, I liked DOS and was fairly disgusted when GUIs became the >standard. I wholeheartedly agree. These modern machine are so much more powerful - why does it seem like the old ones did things just as fast? Actually, if I want to do some straight word processing I using fire up the old 486 DOS machine and use Word Pefect 5.1. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Rocky (RB) stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html Steve Touchstone <stouchst@junksirinet.net> had some very interesting things to say about Re: but very important: >>Actually, I liked DOS and was fairly disgusted when GUIs became the >>standard. >I wholeheartedly agree. These modern machine are so much more powerful >- why does it seem like the old ones did things just as fast? I blame code bloat in modern software. WHY does Excel need to include a flight simulator, for example? >Actually, if I want to do some straight word processing I using fire >up the old 486 DOS machine and use Word Pefect 5.1. Makes sense to me. I have a friend who clings to her WP [she's a legal secretary]. Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL >>>Actually, I liked DOS and was fairly disgusted when GUIs became the >>>standard. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I blame code bloat in modern software. WHY does Excel need to include > a flight simulator, for example? I actually think that MS did release one really good version of Windows. Windows 3.1. It's all be downhill since then. >>Actually, if I want to do some straight word processing I using fire >>up the old 486 DOS machine and use Word Pefect 5.1. > > Makes sense to me. I have a friend who clings to her WP [she's a legal > secretary]. Likewise one of my old custom software clients. Does medical transcribing. Still runs WP under DOS. I was never particularly fond of Apple machines until I got to use a machine running OS X. Having a command line available made Mac OS a whole lot more attractive! Dan Dan M <dan@wolf.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: but very important: >I was never particularly fond of Apple machines until I got to use a >machine running OS X. Having a command line available made Mac OS a >whole lot more attractive! My husband has a Mac. I'm not fond of using it. Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL >My husband has a Mac. I'm not fond of using it. I'd prefer a Mac any day, for design/desktop publishing tasks. OTOH, for playing/internet surfing, I like the PC better. So I have both :-) Sherry Steve Touchstone wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes >>Actually, I liked DOS and was fairly disgusted when GUIs became the >>standard. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Actually, if I want to do some straight word processing I using fire > up the old 486 DOS machine and use Word Pefect 5.1. One of my gripes is that as various manufacturers bring out faster machines, the software makers build bigger packages that take longer to load, and use much more memory. Thus, everything still runs at the same speed. The internet is the same. Some web sites do not use alot of graphics or flash and load quickly, no matter what kind of connection. Other sites have nothing but Flash, large animations, and lots of useless crap that takes a while to load, even with a fast cable connection. What was one of my favorite news sites is now next to useless for just that reason. I used to read the raw feed on ABC news. It was pretty much right off of the wire service lines. And it was nice to see what was happening before anyone could report it. But, ABC upgraded the website, lots of crap, and now I no longer go there. Too many programmers think that more crap = better. SignatureDick #1349 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com email: dickcr@comcast.net > Christina Websell wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > my machine. I do turn off all things like that so that I do not > get viruses and spyware. I did not mean to make you feel that you were doing wrong. It's just that in September last year I was mailed mercilessly every few minutes by "Microsoft" with a large 150kb plus attachments that contained a virus. Microsoft security patch, it claimed, install now. And so on. This went on for three weeks or more, and as I was on dial-up connection at the time - slow too - it cost me a lot of money to download this spam. It was almost impossible for me to use my computer to mail because of this. So now you know why I will never click on anything claiming to be a Microsoft update. Tweed >> Christina Websell wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes >> [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Tweed I still get that 2 or 3 times a day, fortunately "MailWasher" does a good job of filtering so I've never actually downloaded it. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat. Christina Websell wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes >>> Do not even click on it. My Windows XP updates itself regularly >>> overnight. I definitely don't need to click on this link, and I advise [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > of this. So now you know why I will never click on anything claiming to > be a Microsoft update. That is right, Microsoft does not email notices to update. Never follow an emailed link that purports to be microsoft. But, this was not emailed to anybody. It was a note from person on the forum about an update. I am sorry that you were fooled by the spam, all too many people are fooled. But, please dont' assume that every time you see someone mentioning an update to microsoft's products that it is spam. Especially when the the post is from a regular poster, and makes no claims about working for microsoft. Thank you. SignatureDick #1349 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com email: dickcr@comcast.net Thanks, Dick. I'll check it out. -- Joy Things turn out best for the people who make the best out of the way things turn out. -- John Wooden > In one thread we are talking about security for our PC's. I mentioned > that Microsoft has released a major security update for Internet [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com > email: dickcr@comcast.net Yoj wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes > Thanks, Dick. I'll check it out. You're welcome. In spite of the paranoia of others, if a page is from Microsoft you can pretty well trust that it is ok. And if worse comes to worse, you can always navigate easily to any legitimate page via their home page at www.microsoft.com. My only reason for posting the link was that I figured that some people might not be aware of the upgrade, and I thought it was important enough to check. SignatureDick #1349 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com email: dickcr@comcast.net > Yoj wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > comes to worse, you can always navigate easily to any legitimate page > via their home page at www.microsoft.com. Well, not always. People now-a-days can "spoof" a link and the only way you can know that is if you put your cursor over the link and look at the actual link it is pointing to on your status bar (this is if you are using html format in your email). In other words, it's like putting a link on a web page - what a person sees is not necessarily where the link is pointing, like this: <a href="bad.virus.link">www.microsoft.com</a>. In this case it was a valid link and your were just being helpful by posting it, but there are *hundreds* of ways to fool someone, and *thousands* of criminal or at the least mischevious people out there who are up to no good. Hugs, CatNipped > My only reason for posting the link was that I figured that some people > might not be aware of the upgrade, and I thought it was important > enough to check. CatNipped wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes >> Yoj wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > link on a web page - what a person sees is not necessarily where the > link is pointing, like this: <a > href="bad.virus.link">www.microsoft.com</a>. In this case it was a > valid link and your were just being helpful by posting it, but there are > *hundreds* of ways to fool someone, and *thousands* of criminal or at > the least mischevious people out there who are up to no good. While that is true, I don't read news with my mail software, nor do I use HTML with my news reader. So I didn't even think about it. I use a text based news reader so it it no possible for me to even see a spoof like that. SignatureDick #1349 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com email: dickcr@comcast.net > In one thread we are talking about security for our PC's. I mentioned > that Microsoft has released a major security update for Internet [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > install it or not. > http://www.microsoft.com/security/bulletins/200412_windows.mspx If you aren't running XP with service pack 2 installed, then install it. SignatureNik Simpson Nik Simpson wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes >> In one thread we are talking about security for our PC's. I mentioned >> that Microsoft has released a major security update for Internet [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > If you aren't running XP with service pack 2 installed, then install it. Uh, no. I may, but it has a nasty habit of hashing some drivers that I want. And SP2 does other annoying things. Takes me a day to recover. I also note that I installed it, then a couple of weeks later I had to reinstall windows because some drivers got hashed by a combination of SP2 and an incompatable software package. And then I ran into a similar problem while trying to get my digital camera to work, and Now, I have everything working pretty much the way I want it to, and don't have to worry about the programs I like. SignatureDick #1349 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com email: dickcr@comcast.net >>If you aren't running XP with service pack 2 installed, then install it. > > Uh, no. I may, but it has a nasty habit of hashing some drivers that I > want. And SP2 does other annoying things. I made no suggestion that you should install SP2 (though I can see why you might have read my comment that way,) I was simply pointing out that this fix only applies to those that haven't installed SP2. Personally I think that the vast majority of people will be far better off installing SP2 if they haven't already, but that's not really a topic for this forum ;-) SignatureNik Simpson Nik Simpson wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes >>>If you aren't running XP with service pack 2 installed, then install it. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > off installing SP2 if they haven't already, but that's not really a > topic for this forum ;-) Ok, but I wanted to point out why I am not running it, and let others know that is does cause problems. SignatureDick #1349 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com email: dickcr@comcast.net |
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