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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / July 2008Rabies Shots
Is there a rabies vaccination for cats that lasts longer than a year? I thought there was a 3 or 5 year vaccination. The local vet says no. This is for a feral cat that is really hard to catch on a yearly basis! Thanks! > Is there a rabies vaccination for cats that lasts longer than a year? > I thought there was a 3 or 5 year vaccination. The local vet says > no. This is for a feral cat that is really hard to catch on a yearly > basis! > Thanks! I'm pretty sure the ones my vet gives last two or three years. You might call another vet and ask. Joy your vet is not up to date or is lying to you 3 years up to 5 years http://www.catvaccines.com/feline_vaccination_guidelines.htm > Is there a rabies vaccination for cats that lasts longer than a year? > I thought there was a 3 or 5 year vaccination. The local vet says > no. This is for a feral cat that is really hard to catch on a yearly > basis! > Thanks! > Is there a rabies vaccination for cats that lasts longer than a year? > I thought there was a 3 or 5 year vaccination. The local vet says > no. This is for a feral cat that is really hard to catch on a yearly > basis! A vet recently told me that the one-year vaccination is newer and much more effective than the older 3-year one. (My cynical side says, "Yeah, effective at raising the vet's bank balance." Shut up, Joyce! :)) I don't know which is true, though. I'd rather be able to do it every 3 years, for convenience and less cost, although it's actually a lot easier to keep track of it if it's once a year. Probably not worth it to you in terms of catching a feral, though. I'm sure you can find a vet who still gives the 3-year kind.  SignatureJoyce ^..^ (To email me, remove the X's from my user name.) > Is there a rabies vaccination for cats that lasts longer than a year? > I thought there was a 3 or 5 year vaccination. The local vet says > no. This is for a feral cat that is really hard to catch on a yearly > basis! > Thanks! Yes, there is 3-year rabies vaccine (and titer tests show that the vaccine is actually effective for longer periods). There are a couple of things to consider: (1) some states require annual vaccinations, despite the 3-year availability; and (2) there have been concerns that the 3-year vaccines can cause even more problems than the 1-year. I said "even more" because of concerns about vaccination-associated sarcoma -- but rabies is a dreadful (and always fatal disease), so outdoor cats really do need the vaccine. http://www.avma.org/vafstf/vafstf01.asp MaryL On Jul 8, 3:10 pm, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > > Is there a rabies vaccination for cats that lasts longer than a year? > > I thought there was a 3 or 5 year vaccination. The local vet says [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > MaryL Orion has a vax-associated sarcoma which has mestasized. He is now doing really well, but losing weight slowly and steadily. I would really urge anyone to research, and weigh carefully the risks involved, and the various types of rabies vax available. Rabies *is* a horrible disease, but honestly, a housecat doesn't have a big risk factor. Biskit does not get a rabies vax, because she never sticks her head outside, and Yoda doesn't get one because the last one, in 2000, nearly killed him. I know it's the law, but Yoda will never get another rabies vaccination. And like you said, the rabies titre lasts much longer than it is labeled. I used to be almost fanatical about getting vaccinations, the full protection available, *exactly* on the month they were due. I'm not so much anymore, and I dread vaccinations when Boots and Frank and Wozzy go in. AFter the ordeal with Yoda, it's sure not a routine thing. I worry myself sick about it every time. Sherry > Orion has a vax-associated sarcoma which has mestasized. {{{{{{Sherry}}}}}}}} > I would really urge anyone to research, and weigh carefully the risks > involved, and > the various types of rabies vax available. Rabies *is* a horrible > disease, but honestly, a housecat doesn't have a big risk factor. We talked about that with our TED when Luna and Maya went in last month. We decided the only vaccine our crew would get going forward is rabies and only every 3 years, even though state law requires it yearly. The reason we decided to continue rabies vaccinations is because of their enclosure and the abundant wildlife in our garden. A rabid bat or skunk could easily infect one of them. But that's it. One shot every three years and nothing more. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com On Jul 8, 3:10 pm, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > "Sharon" <armsh...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > MaryL Orion has a vax-associated sarcoma which has mestasized. He is now doing really well, but losing weight slowly and steadily. I would really urge anyone to research, and weigh carefully the risks involved, and the various types of rabies vax available. Rabies *is* a horrible disease, but honestly, a housecat doesn't have a big risk factor. Yes, that's the reason I only referred to the need for this vaccine for *outdoor* cats. I used to routinely get all the "recommended" vaccines, but I stopped that several years ago after seeing literature on some of the detrimental effects. -- MaryL Biskit does not get a rabies vax, because she never sticks her head outside, and Yoda doesn't get one because the last one, in 2000, nearly killed him. I know it's the law, but Yoda will never get another rabies vaccination. And like you said, the rabies titre lasts much longer than it is labeled. I used to be almost fanatical about getting vaccinations, the full protection available, *exactly* on the month they were due. I'm not so much anymore, and I dread vaccinations when Boots and Frank and Wozzy go in. AFter the ordeal with Yoda, it's sure not a routine thing. I worry myself sick about it every time. Sherry Amber was due for a rabies shot this spring. I decided against it because she is 13 years old and hates to travel. Both my cats are strictly inside so there is no risk. ---MIKE--- >>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') > Orion has a vax-associated sarcoma which has mestasized. > He is now doing really well, but losing weight slowly and steadily. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > sick about it every time. > Sherry I'm so very sorry. Lots of purrs, Polonca and Soncek On Jul 8, 2:10 pm, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > > Is there a rabies vaccination for cats that lasts longer than a year? > > I thought there was a 3 or 5 year vaccination. The local vet says [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > MaryL I was told by my vet - two years in succession - that IHHO and his pro knowledge/411 - pretty much what MaryL states re the sarcoma risk increase of 3-year vaccine. My cats' only taste of the great out is our third-floor fenced deck so rabies is not a threat, and I relate to the cost issue of yearly renewal shots, but LOL i don't suspect my vet of deceiving me about this....his method of increasing his income is relentless marketing of dental procedures. My vet also told me the 3 year vaccine has been proven to remain less effective on long-term basis than the superior one year dose. > My cats' only taste of the great out is our > third-floor fenced deck so rabies is not a threat Bats are a fairly common vector for rabies, so some degree of threat is still present, unless you have netting that would prevent a bat from getting into the enclosure. Also, mice have been known to carry rabies, and have been known to enter houses that have cats (thus improving the mouse gene pool). SignatureJohn F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria > Bats are a fairly common vector for rabies, so some degree of threat is > still present, unless you have netting that would prevent a bat from > getting into the enclosure. Also, mice have been known to carry rabies, That's one of the reasons our crew still gets their rabies shot once every 3 years. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >> Bats are a fairly common vector for rabies, so some degree of >> threat is still present, unless you have netting that would prevent [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > That's one of the reasons our crew still gets their rabies shot once > every 3 years. Another good reason, if you ever have a rabies problem where you live. We are not required to get rabies shots for our cats here. But if there is a rabies scare, and we have one every few years, then cats can pretty quickly get stuck in quarantine if they haven't had the shots. That gets expensive. I remember one time some friends of mine took up a collection to get a couple of feral cats by their office into quarantine so they wouldn't be put down. Someone kept them when they were released. Jo > Another good reason, if you ever have a rabies problem where you live. Well, we have bats here in Austin, lots of them: http://www.batcon.org/home/index.asp?idPage=122 Plus, regular visitors to our garden include armadillos, skunks, opossums and racoons. All potential rabies carriers. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > Another good reason, if you ever have a rabies problem where you live. We > are not required to get rabies shots for our cats here. But if there is a > rabies scare, and we have one every few years, then cats can pretty > quickly get stuck in quarantine if they haven't had the shots. That gets > expensive. North Carolina IS a rabies problem. We've had just about every possible animal come up with rabies including, deer, beavers, raccoons, bats, cats, dogs, mice, and skunks. I've heard rumors of rabid cows, horses, and everything else. I don't believe in the rabid chicken, however. Anyway, the state accepts either the yearly or every three year vaccines, with the emphasis on getting those animals their shots. It is the only major shot that I insist on for the owners. Pam S. Question: considering the owners only go out into the enclosure (kitty gaol) and are inside the rest of the time, what shots should they have? TED wants them vaccinated against everything but the kitchen sink. They get Revolution flea, tick, heartworm, etc. each month and their rabies shots. Do they need more? http://www.catvets.com/uploads/HTML/VaccineSummary.html Thanks everyone. My indoor cat does not get any vaccinations either - my previous catacquired a sarcoma when she was about 7 years old. We did several surgeries to remove it, but it kept coming back and ended her life after about 4 years. That was my first knowledge about the vaccinations and sarcomas. Needless to say, I am very leary of vaccinations now. The BIG problem with the feral cat is - it is feral and not easy to take to the vet - but being outside ALL the time she surely needs a rabies vaccination, if nothing else. I live in Ohio. It may be the state law that they need to be given annually. I would check with other vets, but this one is only a minute away - so less travel time with a feral is a good thing too!!! > The BIG problem with the feral cat is - it is feral and not easy to > take to the vet - but being outside ALL the time she surely needs a > rabies vaccination, if nothing else. I live in Ohio. It may be the > state law that they need to be given annually. If you think a rabies shot is good for the cat - or good for helping to keep disease from spreading - then I can see getting one for this cat. Is rabies a problem in your area? But I don't understand how the law would apply to you, since this is a feral. Who would they cite for a violation? Legally speaking, she's not your cat. SignatureJoyce ^..^ (To email me, remove the X's from my user name.) The cat hangs out at the gym that I go to. So, I am trying to be a good citizen and protect the public from possibly getting a bite from her and getting rabies. The person owning the gym puts food out for her, so she does hang around a lot. We just thought it would SO much easier to get a 3 year vaccination rather than an annual one. Not even trying to be "legal" here!! Although, the owner of the gym could possibly have some legal problems if the cat should bite someone..................always something. On Jul 9, 4:48�pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > �> The BIG problem with the feral cat is - it is feral and not easy to > �> take to the vet - but being outside ALL the time she surely needs a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > (To email me, remove the X's from my user name.) > The cat hangs out at the gym that I go to. So, I am trying to be a > good citizen and protect the public from possibly getting a bite from > her and getting rabies. Right, that was one of the good reasons I mentioned for getting the shot - preventing the spread of disease. (Not to mention, protecting the kitty!) Could you get a trap from a shelter to trap her? Joyce Yes, that is what we have to do - but even then, it is not easy. And each time she gets trapped, she gets smarter about it!!! > Could you get a trap from a shelter to trap her? > > Joyce > Is there a rabies vaccination for cats that lasts longer than a year? > I thought there was a 3 or 5 year vaccination. The local vet says > no. This is for a feral cat that is really hard to catch on a yearly Find another vet. The vaccine our crew gets lasts 3 years. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >> Is there a rabies vaccination for cats that lasts longer than a year? >> I thought there was a 3 or 5 year vaccination. The local vet says >> no. This is for a feral cat that is really hard to catch on a yearly > > Find another vet. The vaccine our crew gets lasts 3 years. There are legal requirements for annual rabies vaccinations in a lot of jurisdictions. The vet might simply be unwilling to discuss a longer interval, even for a feral. Bud On Jul 9, 9:27 am, wrhamb...@comcast.net wrote: > There are legal requirements for annual rabies vaccinations in a lot of > jurisdictions. The vet might simply be unwilling to discuss a longer interval, > even for a feral. Like I said, find another vet. Annual vaccinations are required in Texas, but like my TED said: "I'm not in the law enforcement business". :) Victor > On Jul 9, 9:27 am, wrhamb...@comcast.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Victor Actually, vet is indirectly in law enforcement business. We live in a city which requires cat owners to register their pets (limited by law to three in a household) and obtain tags for their collars (moot as mine go nowhere except inside our home and don't wear collars anyway) by taking a certificate from their vet showing yearly rabies vaccine applied, along with a certification from vet that cat is spayed. The tags are very cheap for spayed pets, but the real expense is yearly vet visit for same. In my municipality in FL it worked that the *vet* gave you the tags, but not here.....these mandates are enforced by the city/county animal welfare/shelter authorities deputies. Most of their time is not spent with this, however...pit bulls and their derivatives are forbidden in almost all the 'burbs plus Denver here, and that keeps the employees busy rounding those up for confiscation and disposal. If you are wondering how we got started with this rigamarole, my condo HOA,as does most here, requires it of pet-owning homeowners here. > On Jul 9, 9:27 am, wrhamb...@comcast.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Victor I'm with your vet. Bottom line, the animal is protected, even if not "legally." The only risk is if your cat/dog bites someone, they'll have to go into quarantine for a while. IRRC in this state it's 10 days. Some people (mostly the older ranchers w/dogs and barn cats) buy the vaccinatin, and administer it themselves. Same deal, the law doesn't recognize that the cat is protected. The risk that any of my cats would bite someone is practically nil. There aren't any children in the extended family anymore, and if we do have company the cats run and hide anyway. City tags aren't an issue for us, since we aren't in city limits. Sherry |
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