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Big Cats, Little Cats and other stuff from the Zoo
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jmcquown - 26 May 2008 14:47 GMT Rehi Folks! Well, John is on his way back home now but I must say our visit to the zoo on Friday was so much fun! It's amazing how the big cats are so much like our little feline friends :) I'm sorry to say I forgot to bring along my camera.
I saw a female lion doing her best upside-downy-head. AWWWW! One leopard was just hanging out on a tree limb, legs dangling down, in a position that for anything but a cat would be very uncomfortable! The tigers were engaged in a vigorous mutal grooming session. Reminded me of Miranda and Caliban :)
There were lots of other fun animals to visit, of course. The female gorilla was splayed out like a model for Playboy (or Kate Winslett from Titanic - you slut! LOL)
The penguins were getting a break from the heat, swimming in formation that would put Ester Williams water ballet to shame. Except for one little penguin, he/she was off by him/herself and I commented to John "Awww, it's like the kid on the playground no one wants to play with." But maybe it liked it that way. I dunno. <shrug>
In an exhibit called 'Animals of the Night', the zookeeper was in the Wombat enclosure giving him (?) some food and cleaning up. For those who don't know what these creatures look like, they're like giant guinea pigs. Say, a 25 lb. guinea pig LOL She was giving him scritches! We laughed at that. And they played chase all around the enclosure, it was almost like watching someone play with a cat that had the zoomies. The Wombat kept running after her like a little dog.
Memphis has Giant Panda's on loan from China for another 5 years. Ya Ya and Le Le. Ya Ya's enclosure was being cleaned so she was in a big (for lack of a better word) kennel that is between the two enclosures. The zookeeper kept trying to get her to turn around for us to get a look at her face. She tossed pieces of bamboo over Ya Ya's head but Ya Ya was having none of it. She wanted her head scratched between the ears instead. <G> Le Le's enclosure had been cleaned and he was having lunch. Oh boy, bamboo! LOL It's the only thing they eat and it's growing all over the zoo for that reason. They each eat at least 20 lbs. of bamboo a day. He was chowing down.
What funny creatures, the Pandas. When they reach maturity the plan is to put them together and see if they make little Pandas. If they manage it the Memphis zoo will get to keep one of the cubs.
Oh, and if anyone ever saw Jurassic Park 3... the pterodactyl aviary? The Bald Eagle used to be housed in one of those. Last time I saw him he was sitting on a tree limb at the top of a huge cage like that. Now they've moved him to a nice lush enclosure with lots of greenery and a running waterfall. So I'm standing there looking up, where on earth is the Eagle? I happened to glance down. Oh! There you are! LOL It was on the ground peering at me between some foliage the whole time. I wish they'd get him a mate. Bald Eagles nest not to far from Memphis at Reelfoot Lake. Surely he'd like a companion?
Jill
Charleen Welton - 26 May 2008 19:36 GMT How much fun for you and John. I had fun reading your narrative. Thanks for posting it! Charleen and her "little" cats.
> Rehi Folks! Well, John is on his way back home now but I must say our > visit [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > Jill Sherry - 26 May 2008 21:22 GMT > Rehi Folks! Well, John is on his way back home now but I must say our visit > to the zoo on Friday was so much fun! It's amazing how the big cats are so [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Jill I asked the same thing about the eagle in the OKC zoo. They told me the only eagles that ever land in zoos are the ones who have been injured or otherwise impaired to the degree that they could never survive back in the wild. I wonder if they just don't want them breeding, because they really don't want them to live in a zoo?? Dunno. Just a theory. IIRC they've been taken off the endangered list, though of course they're still a protected species. Sounds like a nice zoo. I have kind of mixed feelings about zoos, but have to admit, the accommdoations at the OKC zoo are so much better than when I was a kid. They really do try to match the natural habitat as much as they possibly can. Nothing is really in a "cage" anymore, like the poor gorillas used to be back then.
Sherry
jmcquown - 26 May 2008 22:09 GMT >> up, where on earth is the Eagle? >> I happened to glance down. Oh! There you are! LOL It was on the [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Sherry I've always had mixed feelings about zoos, myself. But when I think about how awful this one was when I first moved here in 1973 and what it looks like today... oh, worlds of difference! It's like I described a great big bird cage and now the Eagle has plants and a waterfall with a spring. And ropes and branches and all sorts of things...
And the cats! The old "Cat House" used to be just a cement cubicle for each big cat with bars, not even as big as the office in my apartment. And it was so very hot. Now they have trees and running water (major Drinkwell fountains!) and greenery, natural rock caves to duck into if they wish. It's so much better! If this is what we have to do do protect a species so we can still see them, so be it.
Proof of not minding captivity was the Warthog running around playing with the zookeeper. That was too cute!
Jill
Sherry - 26 May 2008 22:43 GMT > >> up, where on earth is the Eagle? > >> I happened to glance down. Oh! There you are! LOL It was on the [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Our old cat accommodations were like concrete dungeons. Not even a tree to climb! They let the cats die from old age and didn't get any more until they were able to upgrade and make a really nice place for them. I haven't seen it yet. There's a new exhibit that's just native things--armadillos, coyotes, bobcats, racoons, people say it's really fun to see, too. Wow. Thanks for putting that in my head. This is a good time to walk the zoo, it's not too hot yet. I'm not sure I can walk the whole thing, but if I can't I bet they have scooters. Now I wanna go to the zoo. <Simon & Garfunkle earworm coming>
Sherry
Marina - 27 May 2008 04:05 GMT > I asked the same thing about the eagle in the OKC zoo. They told me > the only eagles that ever land in zoos are the ones who have been [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > been taken off the endangered list, though of course they're still a > protected species. Legitimate zoos don't capture wild animals in this day and age, they get new animals by trading with other zoos that have a surplus, or as you said, they keep wild animals if they can't be returned to their natural habitat. There are a couple of sea eagles at the Helsinki zoo that have been breeding for several years now, and all their offspring have been returned to the wild (the sea eagle has been a very endangered species here).
> Sounds like a nice zoo. I have kind of mixed feelings about zoos, but > have to admit, the accommdoations > at the OKC zoo are so much better than when I was a kid. They really > do try to match the natural habitat as much as they possibly can. > Nothing is really in a "cage" anymore, like the poor gorillas used to > be back then. They've kept on some of the very old cages at the Helsinki zoo, too. It makes me want to cry when I see that little concrete cage with the bars where the bear was kept. One solitary bear, in a cage where it could barely (bearly?) stand up. Now the bears have huge enclosures with caves and water and tree trunks etc.
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Magic Mood Jeep © - 26 May 2008 22:21 GMT > Rehi Folks! Well, John is on his way back home now but I must say our visit > to the zoo on Friday was so much fun! It's amazing how the big cats are so [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Jill When DH & I visited the Cincinnati Zoo a few years ago, it was very nice. Smack dab in the middle of the city, they made maximum use of all the limited space they had. They had a flock of (breeding - I know as I followed a hen with her chicks for a bit, but alas, DH had the camera) peacocks running loose all over the zoo. I was watching one of the males, who was on top of one of the 'rest stations' (at the crest of the roof), and he screamed his gawd-awful screech right as a group of girl-scouts exited the ladies room - it scared them!. I couldn't help but laugh, as they jumped and looked around for the source of the noise, then pointed them towards the peacock on the roof.... they didn't think that he was the source, and he disproved them by screeching again.
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jmcquown - 26 May 2008 22:38 GMT >> Oh, and if anyone ever saw Jurassic Park 3... the pterodactyl >> aviary? The Bald Eagle used to be housed in one of those. Last [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > roof.... they didn't think that he was the source, and he disproved > them by screeching again. Oh! I missed seeing the peacocks! They used to just let them walk all around the (Memphis) zoo. They just strutted around on the paths but apparently over the years quite a few escaped. And for some reason the owners of Victorian era mansions near the zoo don't like peacocks (or pea hens!) walking around on their lawns :( So, no more peacocks walking along the paths. (sigh) I'm not so sure what Persia would think of something like that. One of those birds could kick her a.s into next week.
Jill
tanadashoes - 27 May 2008 00:50 GMT > Oh! I missed seeing the peacocks! They used to just let them walk all > around the (Memphis) zoo. They just strutted around on the paths but [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > like > that. One of those birds could kick her a.s into next week. Peacocks are filthy birds who like to poop everywhere, and the poop is slimy and smelly. My guardian had a pair of peacocks back when I was in college. I had to share the front porch with one whenever I went out to have a cigarette. They stink, or at least this one did. I can't blame the owners of those mansions for not wanting peacocks on their yards.
Pam S. who used to think peacocks were pretty cool, then got to know one
Granby - 27 May 2008 01:37 GMT They are cool in their place but, not if you want to sleep in the morning. Their call sounds like "Heeeelllllpppp" and they don't have the sense God gave a goose for the most part. grandparents raised them for their feathers, once were pretty valuable when I was a tot.
>> Oh! I missed seeing the peacocks! They used to just let them walk all >> around the (Memphis) zoo. They just strutted around on the paths but [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Pam S. who used to think peacocks were pretty cool, then got to know one jmcquown - 27 May 2008 03:06 GMT > They are cool in their place but, not if you want to sleep in the > morning. Their call sounds like "Heeeelllllpppp" and they don't have > the sense God gave a goose for the most part. grandparents raised > them for their feathers, once were pretty valuable when I was a tot. They were probably yelling "Heeeelllllpppp" because people were plucking their feathers! They are still valuable. It's (now) illegal to pluck peacocks. The males iridescent tail feathers were really in vogue at the turn of the last century, up through the 1920's, on women's hats.
Same thing could be said of ostritch feathers. Problem is, ostriches fight back. And those are some *big* birds! Yikes!
Jill
>>> Oh! I missed seeing the peacocks! They used to just let them walk >>> all around the (Memphis) zoo. They just strutted around on the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> Pam S. who used to think peacocks were pretty cool, then got to know >> one Granby - 27 May 2008 04:23 GMT I remember they would practically stroke their birds, they were so tame and any loose feather that came out was grabbed. They never did the "Plucking thing" as they knew it would hurt the birds. They had so many that it wasn't necessary to get the little bit they needed for extra cash. I remember they sent them to Chicago to be used on hats and in home decorating.
Damn right ostriches fight back. There was a pair near where I lived and I cut through a field on my way home. I didn't see the bird and it didn't see me. It jumped on me and about beat the life out of me before the owner came with a broom and chased it off. I was as bruised as I had fallen out of the barn loft. Let them stick their heads in the sand and suffocate for all I care.
>> They are cool in their place but, not if you want to sleep in the >> morning. Their call sounds like "Heeeelllllpppp" and they don't have [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >>> Pam S. who used to think peacocks were pretty cool, then got to know >>> one wrhamblen@comcast.net - 27 May 2008 03:35 GMT >> Oh! I missed seeing the peacocks! They used to just let them walk all >> around the (Memphis) zoo. They just strutted around on the paths but [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Pam S. who used to think peacocks were pretty cool, then got to know one They also scream like banshees at dawn and dusk.
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Kreisleriana - 27 May 2008 04:26 GMT >>> Oh! I missed seeing the peacocks! They used to just let them walk all >>> around the (Memphis) zoo. They just strutted around on the paths but [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Bud One escaped from lord knows where, and took up residence on my ex's block in Los Angeles. It lived there for years, screeching its tiny head off.
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