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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / December 2004Please Visit My Big Cat Site =^..^=
You`ll Find Info,Pics,Sounds,Web Cams an much much more also those that are Endangered an Ways you can help http://BigCats.tripod.com (or) http://members.tripod.com/~BigCats/index.html ~Todd~ =^..^= http://zorin.org/vs http://www.cs.fiu.edu/~flynnj/ http://www.cs.fiu.edu/~flynnj/vanishing-species/ http://www.vanishingspecies.net/ Big cats are wonderful. Just as wonderful as domestic ones. Just spreading linkage; enjoy the photos! -Z > You`ll Find > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > ~Todd~ =^..^= > http://zorin.org/vs These are great pics! The Vanishing Species site (real-life site, not web site) reminds me a bit of a place in southern California called the Feline Conservation Center (FCC). They breed endangered species of big cats. (They don't breed other animals, though, just cats.) Flynn was mentioning on his site that cougars purr, and I can substantiate that - I have heard one purr at FCC. It was amazing! This huge, full-grown mountain lion was squirming on the ground, and doing upside-downy head and purring like a housecat, because one of the caretakers was discussing lunch with him. :) It was quite loud - I could hear it from about 20 feet away. Joy, have you ever been to this place? It's in Rosamond, maybe 100 miles or so north of LA. Check out their site: http://cathouse-fcc.org/ Joyce > > http://zorin.org/vs > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Joyce No, I hadn't even heard of it. It sounds wonderful! Have you been to Shambala? Their site is at http://www.shambala.org/ It would actually be on the way to the FCC. Joy > Have you been to Shambala? Their site is at http://www.shambala.org/ > It would actually be on the way to the FCC. No, never went there. I have a friend in LA, so maybe next time I go to visit her, I'll time it to be on a weekend that Shambala is open. That also sounds like a great place (and it's closer to LA, too). Joyce > > Have you been to Shambala? Their site is at http://www.shambala.org/ > > It would actually be on the way to the FCC. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Joyce Yes, it is a great place, although I haven't been there in years. I don't know if they still do it, but when I was there, they would have a photo op. The way they put it was, "We'll go see who feels like having his picture taken today." Then you could be photographed with whatever cat they came back with. Once it was a cheetah, and another time it was a tiger that sometimes worked with David Copperfield. You could actually pet the tiger, as long as you did so firmly. I couldn't believe how soft he was! I figured an animal that big would have coarse fur. Joy > site that cougars purr, and I can substantiate that - I have heard one purr > at FCC. It was amazing! This huge, full-grown mountain lion was squirming on > the ground, and doing upside-downy head and purring like a housecat, because > one of the caretakers was discussing lunch with him. :) It was quite loud - > I could hear it from about 20 feet away. Junior, one of the cougars (actually a Florida Panther, but a FP is really a subspecies of cougar) at VSW likes to do the upside-downy head thing all the time, and purrrrs like a kitten. Of course, he still IS a "kitten", being around 9 months old and still posessing prominent cub spots. It's amazing how affectionate these cats can be when hand raised; they're just as sweet as domestic cats in a lot of ways. Junior likes to rub his head against me with so much force he almost pushes me over, and likes to try to sit in my lap (and doesn't fit). Unfortunately, since these animals ARE wild and can never be 100% predictable, you can never let your guard down when they're near you; for instance you must never let them get behind you, or climb up on you, and you must stay alert in the event that they get into a position where they can hurt you. Junior likes to play-bite, and is very gentle when doing so, but I'd never let his jaws near my neck. As for the tigers, I'll probably never have the nerve to go into an enclosure with one. These are animals that can easily kill you just trying to play! Big cats are wonderful; if you can volunteer at one of these organizations, do so. Not only are you helping them out, but being around these animals is an amazing experience. -Z (snip) >Junior likes to play-bite, and is very gentle when doing so, but I'd >never let his jaws near my neck. As for the tigers, I'll probably never >have the nerve to go into an enclosure with one. These are animals that >can easily kill you just trying to play! Exactly why I wonder why there have been so many cases of people behaving foolishly with them. With animals this big and well-armed, whether or not they have malicious intent is beside the point-- as you say, they can kill you just trying to play. >Big cats are wonderful; if you can volunteer at one of these >organizations, do so. Not only are you helping them out, but being >around these animals is an amazing experience. > >-Z Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com > It's amazing how affectionate these cats can be when hand raised; > they're just as sweet as domestic cats in a lot of ways. Junior likes to > rub his head against me with so much force he almost pushes me over, and > likes to try to sit in my lap (and doesn't fit). I want a cougar friend!!! > Unfortunately, since these animals ARE wild and can never be 100% > predictable Ha - neither can domestic cats. > Junior likes to play-bite, and is very gentle when doing so, but I'd > never let his jaws near my neck. As for the tigers, I'll probably never > have the nerve to go into an enclosure with one. These are animals that > can easily kill you just trying to play! Considering the damage Roxy and Licorice can do to me when I'm playing with them, I think I'll leave the tigers alone, too. Joyce > > http://zorin.org/vs > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > one of the caretakers was discussing lunch with him. :) It was quite loud - > I could hear it from about 20 feet away. In her book Tribe of Tiger, Elizabeth Marshall Thomas describes a cougar who purred, too. It also licked har arm, and she describes how the cougar's tongue became very soft when doing this. It's a nice cat book, though I don't agree on everything she says.  SignatureMarina, Frank and Nikki marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki Joyce wrote: ---------------------<snip>---------------------- > Flynn was mentioning on his >site that cougars purr, and I can substantiate that - I have heard one purr >at FCC. It was amazing! This huge, full-grown mountain lion was squirming on >the ground, and doing upside-downy head and purring like a housecat, because >one of the caretakers was discussing lunch with him. :) It was quite loud - >I could hear it from about 20 feet away. That's because the cougar is a member of the genus Felis (Felis concolor to be exact). As I'm sure most of you know, cats can either roar or purr. The ones that roar are members of the genus Panthera. Regards and Roars, O J >Joyce wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >Regards and Roars, >O J I once was able to stroke a young Canadian Lynx at the Nashville Zoo (the keepers were restraining its head and feet). It purred just like a giant kitten. It was taking being restrained so calmly that I wondered whether it had been fed tranquilizers. SignatureJohn F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > like a giant kitten. It was taking being restrained so calmly that I > wondered whether it had been fed tranquilizers. When I was 16, I cuddled a lion cub. Like all kittens he was a biter, his teeth were like hyperdermic needles. After I looked like a pin cushion, it was worth it though. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat. "Adrian" <anca@bigfoot.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Please Visit My Big Cat Site =^..^=: >> I once was able to stroke a young Canadian Lynx at the Nashville Zoo >> (the keepers were restraining its head and feet). It purred just [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >his teeth were like hyperdermic needles. After I looked like a pin >cushion, it was worth it though. I think I was about 11 or 12 when I got to pet a tiger cub. I had the overgrown kitten purring in short order [I knew where the itchy spots were from spending my whole life around cats, just had to adjust the amount of force used]. He seemed sorry to see me leave, too. :-) Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL > I think I was about 11 or 12 when I got to pet a tiger cub. I had the > overgrown kitten purring in short order [I knew where the itchy spots > were from spending my whole life around cats, just had to adjust the > amount of force used]. He seemed sorry to see me leave, too. :-) Awww - what a great experience for a kid. Joyce > "Adrian" <anca@bigfoot.com> had some very interesting things to say > about Re: Please Visit My Big Cat Site =^..^=: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > were from spending my whole life around cats, just had to adjust the > amount of force used]. He seemed sorry to see me leave, too. :-) Here's a pic of me petting a fully grown tiger a couple of years ago. http://tinyurl.com/6v5oc I don't know what happened to the quality of the picture, it seems to have gone really grainy for some reason. Don't know what Yahoo is up to. -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Here's a pic of me petting a fully grown tiger a couple of years ago. > http://tinyurl.com/6v5oc MEOW! Great picture! Don't let Vino see it, though, or he'll get a complex. :) Was this a place run by Buddhist monks, by any chance? I saw a program on TV once about a tiger sanctuary in Thailand, that was started by monks who took in tigers that were formerly pets. As of the airing date of the program, the tigers stayed in cages and got to run around in a deserted quarry or something like that (the monks would take them out to run around). But the monks were trying to raise the money to buy either more land, or better land, or some better "housing" for the tigers, and create a real sanctuary for them. Obviously I don't remember the details very well, but I'm curious whether this was the same place. Joyce > > Here's a pic of me petting a fully grown tiger a couple of years ago. > > http://tinyurl.com/6v5oc [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > for them. Obviously I don't remember the details very well, but I'm curious > whether this was the same place. Yes, that was the place! It's been featured on The Amazing Race and several other shows. It's really neat there. They also have gibbons and other animals. I found that they seemed to have fairly reasonable living conditions, considering what it was. It would be best of course if idiots didn't get tigers as pets in the first place! Garr! -- Britta Sandpaper kisses, a cuddle and a purr. I have an alarm clock that's covered in fur! Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album Zorin the Lynx wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes > http://zorin.org/vs > http://www.cs.fiu.edu/~flynnj/ > http://www.cs.fiu.edu/~flynnj/vanishing-species/ > http://www.vanishingspecies.net/ > > Big cats are wonderful. Just as wonderful as domestic ones. One of the things that amaze me about cats is that no matter how big or little, or how different looking they are, they all seem to like the same things, act the same, move in the same way, assume the same positions, and in general, be so much alike. When you see a house cat sitting in some position, you can be sure that Lions and Tigers are sitting like that also. In many ways having a house cat is like having a lion or tiger in your house, only on a smaller scale. > Just spreading linkage; enjoy the photos! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> ~Todd~ =^..^= SignatureDick #1349 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com email: dickcr@comcast.net > One of the things that amaze me about cats is that no matter how > big or little, or how different looking they are, they all seem to > like the same things, act the same, move in the same way, assume > the same positions, and in general, be so much alike. I remember seeing some tv show that compared the mating rituals of a pair of tigers with those of a pair of housecats. Their behaviors were identical. It was quite amazing. > When you see a house cat sitting in some position, you can be sure > that Lions and Tigers are sitting like that also. In many ways having > a house cat is like having a lion or tiger in your house, only on a > smaller scale. It's like that saying, about God creating the cat so that man can caress the tiger... or something like that (I'm sure someone can produce the exact quote). Joyce > It's like that saying, about God creating the cat so that man can > caress the tiger... or something like that (I'm sure someone can produce > the exact quote). I remember that quote, and I remember loving it, even though I'm not the religious type. }:) It's so true! The domestic cat (which is descended from felis silvestris lybica) is JUST the right size a cat to be the perfect pet; big enough to be cuddly, yet small enough to not be dangerous. Though a spooked feral cat CAN do a lot of damage if you try to hold onto him or back him into a corner. There's another cute wildcat that would probably make an interesting pet; the sand cat, or "felis margarita". Observe the cuteness: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/agarman/sandcat.htm -- However, I don't know anything about this cat's temperament when hand-raised. Anyone else find it amazing that what was originally a spam posted by a user who has never posted anything else here has turned into an interesting discussion? Funny how usenet works sometimes... -Z Zorin the Lynx wrote in rec.pets.cats.anecdotes >> It's like that saying, about God creating the cat so that man can >> caress the tiger... or something like that (I'm sure someone can [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > user who has never posted anything else here has turned into an > interesting discussion? Funny how usenet works sometimes... Oh, yeah. Other newsgroups have the same thing happen. However, I seem to find that on one newsgroup, if I post something it is often followed up with a long dicussion correcting me. :-). Ah well, such is the nature of the more scientific groups. If you follow a link on the page you posted, you come to another small cutie, the black footed cat. http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/agarman/blackfoo.htm SignatureDick #1349 "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~Benjamin Franklin Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com email: dickcr@comcast.net Dick C <foo.dickcr@comcast.net> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Please Visit My Big Cat Site =^..^=: >If you follow a link on the page you posted, you come to another small >cutie, the black footed cat. >http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/agarman/blackfoo.htm What an expression! "You interrupted my nap!" :-) Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL > There's another cute wildcat that would probably make an interesting > pet; the sand cat, or "felis margarita". Observe the cuteness: > http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/agarman/sandcat.htm Aw, an orange tabby!! Don't you love how some species get their names? I mean, "felis margarita harrisoni"? Some guy named Harrison was drinking a margarita when he discovered the species? :) Joyce Zorin the Lynx <yakko@zorin.org> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Please Visit My Big Cat Site =^..^=: >There's another cute wildcat that would probably make an interesting >pet; the sand cat, or "felis margarita". Observe the cuteness: >http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/agarman/sandcat.htm -- However, I don't >know anything about this cat's temperament when hand-raised. Awwwwww! >Anyone else find it amazing that what was originally a spam posted by a >user who has never posted anything else here has turned into an >interesting discussion? Funny how usenet works sometimes... I see it as a snub to the jerks who think we pay for our Internet access to have advertising forced on us. :-) Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL >> It's like that saying, about God creating the cat so that man can >> caress the tiger... or something like that (I'm sure someone can [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >-Z Note the sand cat's big feet. I suppose that this is an adaptation that keeps it from sinking very far into soft sand. SignatureJohn F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria > Note the sand cat's big feet. I suppose that this is an adaptation > that keeps it from sinking very far into soft sand. Yeah, sure wish I had those. I *hate* walking on sand! Joyce |
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