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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / May 2008Abelard finally eating - with gusto
I thought I was going to lose the little guy there for a while because I could hardly force him to eat, even a smidgen, and there seemed to be no improvement in his overall condition. His weight is way down and he's starting to look like a starving kitty. Thursday night I started him on some homeopathic medicines - Histaminum 30C & Calcarea Carbonica 30C, and last night I was visiting some friends and told them about what happened, and the woman says 'Let me give you a bottle of my colloidal silver' and I thought, sure, why not give it a try, it can't hurt and might even help. I gave Aby a large dose of the colloidal silver last night and first thing this morning along with both of the homeopathics. Last night when I gave his antibiotic pill I was sure it went down, but this morning I found the pill on the floor so apparently it flew out of his mouth and I didn't see it happen. (It normally takes up to half a dozen times of putting the pill into his mouth before I succeed in getting his mouth closed with the pill still inside.) It was couple of hours before finding out about the missing dose of antibiotic today that I gave the other stuff. After the antibiotic pill I let him sleep for a few hours then offered pureed shrimp. At first I had to stuff it into his stubborn mouth but then he realized "this is shrimp!!" and started eating like a proper starving kitty! So he got two doses of colloidal silver and both homeopathics without cephalexin, and it appears the alternative meds did him more good than the prescribed pills, but I will continue the shotgun approach until he's fully recovered. > I thought I was going to lose the little guy there for a while because I > could hardly force him to eat, even a smidgen, and there seemed to be no [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > the alternative meds did him more good than the prescribed pills, but I will > continue the shotgun approach until he's fully recovered. Despite our "differences", I am glad that he is doing better. >^..^< This is Kitty. Copy and paste Kitty into your signature to help her wipe out Bunny's world domination. -- The ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)© email me at nalee1964 (at) comcast (dot) net http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep > I thought I was going to lose the little guy there for a while > because I could hardly force him to eat, even a smidgen, and there [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > than the prescribed pills, but I will continue the shotgun approach > until he's fully recovered. Yay! How is his balance these days? Is that improving at all? kili | How is his balance these days? Is that improving at all? Oh yes. His gait is much more steady and he only falls over when he sneezes. I've found him sleeping on a footstool and on top of a trunk in the closet, both of which are tall enough that he had to climb to get on (and he obviously made it). He has been having sneezing fits the last few days (hence the histaminum remedy). He has always had occasional sneezing fits, I think he is sensitive to dust, but lately if they happen while he's walking, he falls down. But even that falling is happening less than it was. Like, he might *almost* fall down instead of falling all the way to the floor, he catches himself. Overall, I am more optimistic than I was a few days ago. Seeing him scarf up the shrimp was a huge relief. > Overall, I am more optimistic than I was a few days ago. Seeing him scarf up > the shrimp was a huge relief. This is all very encouraging! I'm glad to hear he's doing so well. Dan >> How is his balance these days? Is that improving at all? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Overall, I am more optimistic than I was a few days ago. Seeing him > scarf up the shrimp was a huge relief. Awesome news, Pat. I believe he's on the mend! kili > Oh yes. His gait is much more steady and he only falls over when he sneezes. I'm sorry, I know you've been worried sick about him, but this just made me LOL. Glad to hear he is eating, though, and getting more steady on his legs.  SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. >> Oh yes. His gait is much more steady and he only falls over when he >> sneezes. > I'm sorry, I know you've been worried sick about him, but this just made > me LOL. Glad to hear he is eating, though, and getting more steady on > his legs. Glad you said it first, Marina. :) I also giggled when I read that. I do take Abelard's illness seriously, and I also know how scary it's been. But this is just slapstick. :) (And would make a great Youtube...) SignatureJoyce To email me, remove the triple-X from my user name. ^..^ | Marina <frankiennikki@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: | [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | take Abelard's illness seriously, and I also know how scary it's been. But | this is just slapstick. :) (And would make a great Youtube...) He just ate another meal -ferociously! This time the (leftover) shrimp paste was merely an appetizer. I hope he keeps it up, cuz he needs to regain a lot of weight. He really shrank badly. > <bastXXXe...@sonic.net> wrote| Marina <frankienni...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > was merely an appetizer. I hope he keeps it up, cuz he needs to regain a > lot of weight. He really shrank badly. So good to hear that. A happy recovery with lots of shrimp! Bettina On Sun, 18 May 2008 03:58:40 +0000, bastXXXette wrote: > > Pat wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > take Abelard's illness seriously, and I also know how scary it's been. > But this is just slapstick. :) (And would make a great Youtube...) Speaking of slapstick that would have made a good Youtube video, my sister was working in her yard a couple of days ago, and startled a mouse in the garage. It leaped out the garage door, and landed in a large empty flowerpot. It made five complete circles around the inside of the flowerpot, then leaped out and dashed back into a different part of the garage. SignatureJohn F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria > I thought I was going to lose the little guy there for a while > because I could hardly force him to eat, even a smidgen, and there [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > than the prescribed pills, but I will continue the shotgun approach > until he's fully recovered. I'm so glad to hear Abelards improving, continuing purrs until he's fully recovered. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy, Bagheera & Shadow) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > I thought I was going to lose the little guy there for a while because I > could hardly force him to eat, even a smidgen, and there seemed to be no > improvement in his overall condition. His weight is way down and he's > starting to look like a starving kitty. > Thursday night I started him on some homeopathic medicines - Histaminum 30C > & Calcarea Carbonica 30C, and last night I was visiting some friends and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > putting the pill into his mouth before I succeed in getting his mouth closed > with the pill still inside.) > It was couple of hours before finding out about the missing dose of > antibiotic today that I gave the other stuff. After the antibiotic pill I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the alternative meds did him more good than the prescribed pills, but I will > continue the shotgun approach until he's fully recovered. Wow! You know, I first heard about colloidal silver on a cat health group about 8 years ago, as a way of helping to control feline herpes. It's an "anti-microbial", which doesn't specify the type of microbe. Apparently it works on both viruses and bacteria. It was commonly used as an antibiotic before penicillin was invented. I never did give any to Roxy, but I did get some for myself, and it has sometimes been almost miraculous how fast I would get over colds when taking it. (I still wouldn't use it for bacterial infections, because with those you have to be careful with the dosage. However, with more and more illnesses being resistant to antibiotics, it might become necessary.) I don't have any now, and it seems like I can't buy it in the strength (500 ppm) that I used to, although I can buy a 10ppm version. I don't know how effective that would be. And I don't know why I can't find the stronger version anymore. Anyway - **wonderful news** about Abelard!! And now that he's eating, you might try pill pockets to get him to swallow the rest of the antibiotics. Maybe they make a shrimp flavor. :) SignatureJoyce To email me, remove the triple-X from my user name. ^..^ | Wow! You know, I first heard about colloidal silver on a cat health group | about 8 years ago, as a way of helping to control feline herpes. It's an [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] | know how effective that would be. And I don't know why I can't find the | stronger version anymore. The woman who gave me the supply makes her own with some kind of electrical device. She says it takes 8 minutes to make a quart and the strength is 5 ppm. She also says the lower concentrations are actually more effective for internal use. I'm taking it too, for my tooth. She's going to bring me another bottle of it tomorrow. > <bastXXXe...@sonic.net> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > I'm taking it too, for my tooth. She's going to bring me another bottle of > it tomorrow. I'm glad to hear Abelard is better. Be careful with that stuff. You don't want to turn into a Smurf. Did you ask the vet about it? Sherry Be careful with that stuff. You don't want to turn into a Smurf. Did you ask the vet about it? What is a Smurf? I spoke with the vet this morning and told her about it. She urged me to continue with it. > Be careful with that stuff. You don't want to turn into a Smurf. > Did you ask the vet about it? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I spoke with the vet this morning and told her about it. She urged me to > continue with it. Sorry, if you didn't raise kids in the 80's you were lucky enough to never have to watch the Smurfs. They were a village of blue cartoon guys, with only one blue cartoon girl, Smurfette. (that was weird) There was an evil guy but I can't remember his name. He wasn't blue. I digress. The point is, too high concentration of colloidal silver will turn your skin permanentaly blue/gray. I hope you can trust your friend's homemade concoction to be a safe level. Sherry The point is, too high concentration of colloidal silver will turn your skin permanentaly blue/gray. I hope you can trust your friend's homemade concoction to be a safe level. She and her DH have been taking it daily for a very long time, and they are not blue or gray. >> The point is, too high concentration of colloidal silver will turn >> your skin permanentaly blue/gray. I hope you can trust your >> friend's homemade concoction to be a safe level. > She and her DH have been taking it daily for a very long time, and > they are not blue or gray. I don't know why, but this thread is really making me LOL. Actually, Sherry, I think 5ppm is pretty safe. As I said, I used to take a concentration of 500ppm, which I would get at a health food store. But they don't sell it any more, and didn't have an explanation as to why. (Fast turnover in employees - I doubt anyone who was there when they discontinued it is there now.) I have found the 500 ppm concentration on the web, but didn't order it at the time, and now I can't find it. Pat, why is the 5ppm more effective for internal use? Safer, I can understand (in terms of the Smurf issue [now I'm giggling again>), but more effective? I'm curious as to why. SignatureJoyce To email me, remove the triple-X from my user name. ^..^ On May 17, 7:20 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > > "Sherry" <sridd...@aol.com> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > To email me, remove the triple-X from my user name. ^..^ Has anybody heard from Howard? This would be a good topic for him. He was so knowledgeable about health/drug issues. Sherry >> Be careful with that stuff. You don't want to turn into a Smurf. >> Did you ask the vet about it? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Sherry That reminds me of a very old, not very good, joke. " If you strangle a Smurf, what colour does it go?" SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy, Bagheera & Shadow) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk > That reminds me of a very old, not very good, joke. " If you strangle a > Smurf, what colour does it go?" I don't know....put me out of my misery Adrian or I will be thinking what the answer could be for ages! Glad to hear Abelard's eating- one of the nicest sights in the World is an ill kitty that's been off their food- suddenly hitting the bowl with enthusiasm again! Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs Glad to hear Abelard's eating- one of the nicest sights in the World is an ill kitty that's been off their food- suddenly hitting the bowl with enthusiasm again! Well it sure was short and sweet. He's gone back to refusing food. This is getting very tiring. I tried three different flavors of canned this morning, and he refuses them all. > I'm glad to hear Abelard is better. > Be careful with that stuff. You don't want to turn into a Smurf. LOL. Yeah, there is that. :) I was always very sparing when I used it - just during the worst part of a cold, and only for a few days. I did worry about the Smurf issue. Actually, I think you'd be more of a spotted Smurf, since the silver deposits would show up erratically on your skin, rather than turning your skin a uniform color. But then, I don't know. I guess if it happened, you could do street theater as a human statue. :) SignatureJoyce To email me, remove the triple-X from my user name. ^..^ On May 17, 7:15 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > > I'm glad to hear Abelard is better. > > Be careful with that stuff. You don't want to turn into a Smurf. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > To email me, remove the triple-X from my user name. ^..^ OK. I had to google. Argyria. That's the name for the condition. I could *not* think of it. I have a friend who is really big on natural stuff, homeopathic remedies and such. She has it, though hers is a mild case. There *are* some amazing claims. But I think you're very wise to use it sparingly. Penicillin is also amazing, but you wouldn't want to take it every day. And technically, you'd be a Smurfette. :-) Sherry > Wow! You know, I first heard about colloidal silver on a cat health group > about 8 years ago, as a way of helping to control feline herpes. It's an > "anti-microbial", which doesn't specify the type of microbe. Apparently it > works on both viruses and bacteria. It was commonly used as an antibiotic > before penicillin was invented. I've read a lot of old medical textbooks and they never mention it. It obviously *wasn't* commonly used. It's hyped a lot these days, and the creation of a fake history seems to be part of it. > I never did give any to Roxy, but I did get some for myself, and it has > sometimes been almost miraculous how fast I would get over colds when > taking it. (I still wouldn't use it for bacterial infections, because > with those you have to be careful with the dosage. However, with more > and more illnesses being resistant to antibiotics, it might become > necessary.) I wouldn't use it unless it was for something that I knew for sure no other antimicrobial would touch. Look up "argyria" - it doesn't always take a large or prolonged dose to do that. (Not as much of an issue if you're entirely covered with fur, though). There is some fringe political candidate in the US who turned himself grey with argyria and campaigns for more people to have the right to do the same. ==== j a c k at c a m p i n . m e . u k === <http://www.campin.me.uk> ==== Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557 CD-ROMs and free stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts | Look up "argyria" - it doesn't always take a large or | prolonged dose to do that. (Not as much of an issue if [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] | grey with argyria and campaigns for more people to have the right to | do the same. http://www.argyria.info/ is intriguing (and mentions the candidate). > | Look up "argyria" - it doesn't always take a large or > | prolonged dose to do that. (Not as much of an issue if [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://www.argyria.info/ is intriguing (and mentions the candidate). Intriguing, but a little slanted. There are two deceptive phrases in the first graph alone: Argyria is not a myth; and there are more cases of it than two "that you can connect a name with." Just to show the other side, here are a couple more: http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html http://www.clspress.com/tox.html Sherry > I've read a lot of old medical textbooks and they never mention it. It > obviously *wasn't* commonly used. It's hyped a lot these days, and the > creation of a fake history seems to be part of it. American textbooks? I ask because maybe it was used here more than in Europe. > There is some fringe political candidate in the US who turned himself > grey with argyria and campaigns for more people to have the right to > do the same. LOL, can't say I've ever heard of this guy. Smurf for President! (Or whatever office he was running for.) SignatureJoyce To email me, remove the triple-X from my user name. ^..^ > let him sleep for a few hours then offered pureed shrimp. At first I had to > stuff it into his stubborn mouth but then he realized "this is shrimp!!" and > started eating like a proper starving kitty! Glad to hear that he is getting better! rrb >I thought I was going to lose the little guy there for a while because I >could hardly force him to eat, even a smidgen, and there seemed to be no [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >the alternative meds did him more good than the prescribed pills, but I will >continue the shotgun approach until he's fully recovered. Well this is certainly very good news, indeed! Purrs that he continues to eat, and gain some weight back. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ >^..^< "Life without cats would be only marginally worth living." -TC, and the unmercifully, relentlessly, sweet calico kitty, Kenzie. Every day is a treasure with Kenzie; I try to treat them that way. There will only be so many, and then there will never, ever, be any more. How you behave towards cats here below determines your status in Heaven. - Robert Heinlein I'm glad to hear he's improving. Sam, supervised by Mistletoe > I thought I was going to lose the little guy there for a while because I > could hardly force him to eat, even a smidgen, and there seemed to be no [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > the alternative meds did him more good than the prescribed pills, but I will > continue the shotgun approach until he's fully recovered. I'm so glad that he's eating okay now. Susan M Otis and Chester | I'm so glad that he's eating okay now. It's up-and-down still. Today he won't eat at all, except for fresh grass. Of course he vomited after, tummy was empty but there was bile in the vomit. This worries me. I called the vet and am awaiting a return call. Meanwhile I tried to feed, he won't eat, but he went back to the bunch of grass and ate more. Hoping to see no bile in next vomit. Worried. Seems ok otherwise. Still losing weight. I haven't given any meds yet today, he wouldv'e lost 'em anyhow. |
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