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Kyla =^. .^= - 16 May 2008 01:08 GMT
Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
anything right.
I have alot of people mad at me, and I know I'm in a lot of hoomins
litterboxes.
I really love the funny pictures and videos, but the sadness and angst
really get to me.  I don''t feel like I'm of any value here whatsoever.
What have I done wrong so I can correct it?  I try and send purrs and
prayers, for those who need them, and I've made some wonderful friends here.
Mosey and I have sent cards to some people, who have expressed their
appreciation and I thank you for that.
I guess I'm just too sensitive.  I'm not a 'frenetic' person,
like someone said, and I do try and get along with the folks here .
I don't know what to do.
*sigh*
Kyla...sad
Matthew - 16 May 2008 01:21 GMT
Kyla   tell me what family gets along perfectly fine.  IF you show me one
family that is perfect I am going to go open their closet and show you the
grandma that is hiding in the attic dressed in a S&M leather outfit,like
Yowie keeps promising to put on or is that tanada maybe it is Granby

There are a few out here that can't stand me and vice versa  doesn't mean
that I am not welcome in the group or don't have my place in the group

Heck I battled a few for years but now we are friends and I am looking
forward on meeting them during the RPCA get way next year.

> Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
> anything right.
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> *sigh*
> Kyla...sad
Kyla =^. .^= - 16 May 2008 02:06 GMT
"Matthew"
> Kyla   tell me what family gets along perfectly fine.

My 2 youngest sisters and I get along just fine <G>
We lost both Mom and Dad within 8 months of each other last year.

IF you show me one
> family that is perfect I am going to go open their closet and show you the
> grandma that is hiding in the attic dressed in a S&M leather outfit,like
> Yowie keeps promising to put on or is that tanada maybe it is Granby

LOL

> There are a few out here that can't stand me and vice versa  doesn't mean
> that I am not welcome in the group or don't have my place in the group

I see your point.  I like you, for what that's worth <G>

> Heck I battled a few for years but now we are friends and I am looking
> forward on meeting them during the RPCA get way next year.

Good for you, :)
wish I could be there.
Hug
Kyla

>> Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
>> anything right.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>> *sigh*
>> Kyla...sad
Stormmee - 16 May 2008 08:22 GMT
sort of take what you like leave the rest, Lee

> "Matthew"
> > Kyla   tell me what family gets along perfectly fine.
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> >> *sigh*
> >> Kyla...sad
John F. Eldredge - 17 May 2008 02:38 GMT
> "Matthew"
>> Kyla   tell me what family gets along perfectly fine.
>
> My 2 youngest sisters and I get along just fine <G> We lost both Mom and
> Dad within 8 months of each other last year.

You have my sympathy.  I lost both of my parents, a little less than six
months apart, back in 2001.  It seems particularly common with couples
who have been married for many years.

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Kyla =^. .^= - 17 May 2008 20:58 GMT
"John F. Eldredge"

>> "Matthew"
>>> Kyla   tell me what family gets along perfectly fine.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> months apart, back in 2001.  It seems particularly common with couples
> who have been married for many years.

Well, they were divorced and both remarried.
Adrian - 17 May 2008 21:29 GMT
> "John F. Eldredge"
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Well, they were divorced and both remarried.

Only my father remarried, to a woman only three months older than my sister.
:-)
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Kyla =^. .^= - 18 May 2008 01:30 GMT
"Adrian" <
>> "John F. Eldredge"
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Only my father remarried, to a woman only three months older than my
> sister. :-)

Wow:)  How long have they been married?
Hug
Adrian - 18 May 2008 10:26 GMT
> "Adrian" <
>>> "John F. Eldredge"
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> Wow:)  How long have they been married?
> Hug

23 years now, they married when she was pregnant with my half sister who
graduated last with with a batchelor of science degree.
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Granby - 16 May 2008 02:19 GMT
NOOOO it wasn't Gramby in that outfit.  We were wanting Yowie to come to my
one horse, actually no horse, town and walk down the street in that outfit
so the neighbors would talk about her and leave me alone, thank you very
much.
> Kyla   tell me what family gets along perfectly fine.  IF you show me one
> family that is perfect I am going to go open their closet and show you the
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>> *sigh*
>> Kyla...sad
Stormmee - 16 May 2008 08:22 GMT
ssuuurrrreeee Lee
> NOOOO it wasn't Gramby in that outfit.  We were wanting Yowie to come to my
> one horse, actually no horse, town and walk down the street in that outfit
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> >> *sigh*
> >> Kyla...sad
Granby - 16 May 2008 11:59 GMT
THAT'S TWO!
> ssuuurrrreeee Lee
>> NOOOO it wasn't Gramby in that outfit.  We were wanting Yowie to come to
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>> >> *sigh*
>> >> Kyla...sad
Stormmee - 18 May 2008 16:18 GMT
you sure protesting an awful lot, Lee
> THAT'S TWO!
> > ssuuurrrreeee Lee
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> >> >> *sigh*
> >> >> Kyla...sad
Sam - 17 May 2008 05:51 GMT
> NOOOO it wasn't Gramby in that outfit.  We were wanting Yowie to come to my
> one horse, actually no horse, town and walk down the street in that outfit
> so the neighbors would talk about her and leave me alone, thank you very
> much.
Well, putting on my best Dave hat, why couldn't we have both of them
walk down the street arm in arm?  But who's taking the photos/videos?

Sam, supervised by Mistletoe and running for his life!
Stormmee - 16 May 2008 08:20 GMT
I think that S/M list is a wish list,... Lee, hiding fast
> Kyla   tell me what family gets along perfectly fine.  IF you show me one
> family that is perfect I am going to go open their closet and show you the
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> > *sigh*
> > Kyla...sad
Granby - 16 May 2008 11:58 GMT
If you are hiding from me, this could take awhile.  You know not to hold
your breath like my kids did.  I have a loooonnnng memory, for some things.
>I think that S/M list is a wish list,... Lee, hiding fast
>> Kyla   tell me what family gets along perfectly fine.  IF you show me one
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>> > *sigh*
>> > Kyla...sad
outsider - 16 May 2008 19:37 GMT
> Kyla   tell me what family gets along perfectly fine.  IF you show me
> one family that is perfect I am going to go open their closet and show
> you the grandma that is hiding in the attic dressed in a S&M leather
> outfit,like Yowie keeps promising to put on or is that tanada maybe it
> is Granby

It wasn't my grandma, it was just a family friend so _there_.
tanadashoes - 16 May 2008 21:19 GMT
> Kyla   tell me what family gets along perfectly fine.  IF you show me one
> family that is perfect I am going to go open their closet and show you the
> grandma that is hiding in the attic dressed in a S&M leather outfit,like
> Yowie keeps promising to put on or is that tanada maybe it is Granby

You wish.

> There are a few out here that can't stand me and vice versa  doesn't mean
> that I am not welcome in the group or don't have my place in the group
>
> Heck I battled a few for years but now we are friends and I am looking
> forward on meeting them during the RPCA get way next year.

Matthew, some of your posts have rubbed me the wrong way at times, but
you've never thrown an online pity party, solicited advice and then known
better than any of those advising you, lied, or any of the other things Pat
has done in here.  If Kyla pissed her off, I'll have to take her out of my
killfile just in gratitude.

Pam S.
Matthew - 16 May 2008 21:39 GMT
>> Kyla   tell me what family gets along perfectly fine.  IF you show me one
>> family that is perfect I am going to go open their closet and show you
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Pam S.

A man can dream :^)
Sherry - 16 May 2008 01:26 GMT
> Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
> anything right.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> *sigh*
> Kyla...sad

I think you're doing fine. I don't know what posts you're referring
to. I didn't see anyone sound like they were mad. Maybe I missed a
post.
Anyway, Kyla, if you truly want me to be honest, you came on a little
strong there at first, when you first started posting. Out of
curiosity I once checked google, and you'd posted 140 times in one
day. That's kind of excessive, don't you think? That's likely where
the adjective "frenetic" came from, though I don't recall that post
either. Maybe that's what it was.
You shouldn't feel like you're not of value. You and Mosey, etc. are
just as important as anyone else here. Nobody's any better than anyone
else.

Sherry
Christina Websell - 16 May 2008 02:02 GMT
On May 15, 7:08 pm, "Kyla =^. .^=" <kyla.water...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
> anything right.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> *sigh*
> Kyla...sad

I think you're doing fine. I don't know what posts you're referring
to. I didn't see anyone sound like they were mad. Maybe I missed a
post.
Anyway, Kyla, if you truly want me to be honest, you came on a little
strong there at first, when you first started posting. Out of
curiosity I once checked google, and you'd posted 140 times in one
day. That's kind of excessive, don't you think? That's likely where
the adjective "frenetic" came from, though I don't recall that post
either. Maybe that's what it was.
You shouldn't feel like you're not of value. You and Mosey, etc. are
just as important as anyone else here. Nobody's any better than anyone
else.

I'll be honest too.  It was the sheer quantity.
However now you have calmed down a bit, Kyla, I will read your posts again.
Don't expect replies to every post, we are busy people.  We read and note
them but there is often not time to reply.  At least for me. I never mind if
I get no response.

Tweed
Kyla =^. .^= - 16 May 2008 02:20 GMT
"Christina Websell"

> I'll be honest too.  It was the sheer quantity.
> However now you have calmed down a bit, Kyla, I will read your posts
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Tweed

Thanks Christina.  I have calmed down a lot and continue to send purrs and
prayers for those who need them and I love the 'funny' things/pix/videos
posted here.
Hug
Kyla
Granby - 16 May 2008 02:21 GMT
Heck, I spend half my life talking to myself or the cats, I don't expect
answers all the time, not even from them.

> On May 15, 7:08 pm, "Kyla =^. .^=" <kyla.water...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
> Tweed
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 16 May 2008 16:52 GMT
> Heck, I spend half my life talking to myself or the cats, I don't expect
> answers all the time, not even from them.

But honestly, how awesome would it be if your cats did answer you?
Hee.  You know, before you got hauled off by the men from the "State
Hospital" anyway (lol).

I talk to my furkids daily, and two of them talk back, but as I'm
nowhere near fluent in "Catspeak", I don't understand what they are
saying to me, most of the time.

Smokie Darling (Annie)

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Sherry - 16 May 2008 16:57 GMT
On May 16, 10:52 am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> > Heck, I spend half my life talking to myself or the cats, I don't expect
> > answers all the time, not even from them.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Smokie Darling (Annie)

Bosley actually *does* talk, but I'm not sure I want a translation.
Bozzy possibly has
middle-child syndrom or something, or abandonment issues, but DH & I
think he's
just the reincardation of a mean, red-headed, freckle-faced kid,
because that's what he even looks like.
Anyway, Bosley gets scolded a lot. I go "BOZZY!!" and he goes
"MRRRROW!! (then thumps his tail)"

"Bozzie!!"
"MRRRROW!!" (thump, thump)

I think this is Catspeak for "You're not the boss o' me."

Sherry
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 16 May 2008 17:18 GMT
> On May 16, 10:52 am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Sherry

LOL...  That was so much like Barnabus...  complete with tail and the
"frowny" tabby M on his forehead.  He does not *do* scolding.

Then Miss Smokie (the one whose name I co-opted for my own use) is the
tattler...  If I'm out for a bit, then come back home, she follows me
from room to room, telling me all the things the others did.  Every
little thing, like I understand her or something.  Then sits and looks
so surprised when I love on everyone (she's always first though).
Almost like she's thinking,

"Did you not *hear* what I told you Marley was doing?  And Smeagol?
You're loving on him after what *he* did?  Meowmie, how can you,
they'll never learn if you do that."

Smokie Darling (Annie) < < still chuckling over "not the boss o' me!"
Kyla =^. .^= - 16 May 2008 23:53 GMT
I talk to my 4 all the time and they talk back to me. They love hearing
their names.
Especially at our bed time.  Sqweex comes 'talking' down the hall, and I
talk back to her, in her own language, and she seems to understand me.
Mosey, on the other hand, loves me to talk to him, and answers me back.  So
do Pookie and Pipps.
I think I'm going crazy...erm...going???  LOL
Hug
Kyla
-the crazy ol cat lady

> > On May 15, 7:21 pm, "Granby"
>
> > > Heck, I spend half my life talking to myself or the cats, I don't
> > > expect
> > > answers all the time, not even from them.
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 16 May 2008 23:57 GMT
> I talk to my 4 all the time and they talk back to me. They love hearing
> their names.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Kyla
> -the crazy ol cat lady

Hee...  I tried talking to my cats once.  No idea *what* I said in
Catspeak, but I won't do it again.  They all got big eye'd, puffy
tailed, and ran down the hallway, and stayed away from me for hours.
Anymore, I just brrwrowrr at them and that's alright.

If you are like me, then it's a short trip to going crazy (lol).

Smokie Darling (Annie)
Kyla =^. .^= - 17 May 2008 00:21 GMT
"Smokie Darling (Annie)"
On May 16, 4:53 pm, "Kyla =^. .^=" :
> I talk to my 4 all the time and they talk back to me. They love hearing
> their names.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Kyla
> -the crazy ol cat lady

>Hee...  I tried talking to my cats once.  No idea *what* I said in
>Catspeak, but I won't do it again.  They all got big eye'd, puffy
>tailed, and ran down the hallway, and stayed away from me for hours.
>Anymore, I just brrwrowrr at them and that's alright.

Wow...really??

If you are like me, then it's a short trip to going crazy (lol).

Yup, very short trip...wanna grab a latte before we take the Crazy Train?

Kyla
--sweltering in 86 degrees at 4 pm near Seattle

Smokie Darling (Annie)
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 17 May 2008 14:26 GMT
> "Smokie Darling (Annie)"

> >Hee...  I tried talking to my cats once.  No idea *what* I said in
> >Catspeak, but I won't do it again.  They all got big eye'd, puffy
> >tailed, and ran down the hallway, and stayed away from me for hours.
> >Anymore, I just brrwrowrr at them and that's alright.
>
> Wow...really??

Yep, it was scary actually because they were really acting terrified
of me, and I hated that I'd scared them that much.

> If you are like me, then it's a short trip to going crazy (lol).
>
> Yup, very short trip...wanna grab a latte before we take the Crazy Train?

Sure, make mine a low-fat, mocha latte please.  I'll pay ya back
(honestly I will, I hate owing people).

It got up to 80 something yesterday here, but high desert valley it
isn't nearly as bad as 80 something in a humid environment.
Kyla =^. .^= - 17 May 2008 21:02 GMT
"Smokie Darling (Annie)" ...
On May 16, 5:21 pm, "Kyla =^. .^=":
> "Smokie Darling (Annie)"

> >Hee... I tried talking to my cats once. No idea *what* I said in
> >Catspeak, but I won't do it again. They all got big eye'd, puffy
> >tailed, and ran down the hallway, and stayed away from me for hours.
> >Anymore, I just brrwrowrr at them and that's alright.
>
> Wow...really??

Yep, it was scary actually because they were really acting terrified
of me, and I hated that I'd scared them that much.

Wow...

> If you are like me, then it's a short trip to going crazy (lol).
>
> Yup, very short trip...wanna grab a latte before we take the Crazy Train?

Sure, make mine a low-fat, mocha latte please.  I'll pay ya back
(honestly I will, I hate owing people).

DH makes my lattes, he's the only one who knows how to make them right.
And we use non fat milk.

It got up to 80 something yesterday here, but high desert valley it
isn't nearly as bad as 80 something in a humid environment.

It's 87 here near Seattle and too hot for me.  I get my own 'hot flashes'
aka
power surges <G>
Ann - 17 May 2008 01:53 GMT
I talk to my cat, too. If someone ever heard me they would think I had
children in the house with me.

Do you want to go out?( that means I'll open the door the to the enclosed
porch for them)
Do you want to sit with mommy? Come on I'll hold you.
Is it time to eat?
Stop chassing your sister.

The list goes on and on.

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>I talk to my 4 all the time and they talk back to me. They love hearing
>their names.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>> > > expect
>> > > answers all the time, not even from them.
Magic Mood Jeep - 16 May 2008 17:20 GMT
On May 16, 11:52 am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> > Heck, I spend half my life talking to myself or the cats, I don't expect
> > answers all the time, not even from them.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> <snipped for brevity>

Same here.  Ping, being a Meezer, is very talkative.  And Loudly (he
has no volume control).  If I talk to him, he answers.  If he talks to
us, we answer him.  Don't know if he understands anything past his
name (we assume he understands that, as he answers 90% of the time
when we say his name), and I think I would be stunned if he answered
in a way that I *could* understand...  little men in white jackets
driving a van with padded cargo area would be seeking me....
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 16 May 2008 17:43 GMT
> On May 16, 11:52 am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> in a way that I *could* understand...  little men in white jackets
> driving a van with padded cargo area would be seeking me....

Strangely, only Leonidas is my vocal "Meezer", though none are
'pure'.  Even my one purebred wasn't much of a talker.  Smokie is a
"Mutt" (she actually likes being called smokiemutt), but can she
talk?  Wow...

Barnabus has a tendency to go into the hallway, and stand there and
just cry and cry.  Until I tell him I'm in the living room, then he
runs out, jumps in my lap and goes to sleep.  He is getting a bit up
in years though, so maybe it's just him forgetting that I'm actually
here, particularly when he can't hear me.

Smeagol is a Lynx Point, Marley is a Snowshoe and they are
littermates.  I didn't even know about Smeag until the vet told me.  I
just thought he was a silly little cross-eyed, big chinned, very
strong Tigger wannabe.  Both boys squeak rather than meow, and Smeag
thinks he is a dog.  A very big dog, in truth, he fetches, he rolls
over on command, he adores tummy rubs and haunch pats.

We have Pandy (Pandora, who crawled into the "top" of the stove when
we were cleaning the heating elements, gotta find that picture),
another "mutt", who only vocalizes prior to vomiting (rather like
Mrow, Mrow, Mrow, MRALPH, ack, ack, ack......), Jeb who has a
plaintive cry only when his tummy hurts (but he rarely if ever vomits,
thank heavens).

Jeb is a Flame Point, he's the one I wrote about that someone
neutered, declawed, then dumped.  Moved hisself right in with me,
soon's he read the sign out front (that I still haven't found) that
says, "Free Food and Lovin's For Any Cat Around" in catspeak....
Granby - 16 May 2008 18:05 GMT
Lee's cat Matthew is the best talker I have ever heard.  Persistent when no
one answers.
On May 16, 10:20 am, Magic Mood Jeep <nalee1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 16, 11:52 am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> in a way that I *could* understand... little men in white jackets
> driving a van with padded cargo area would be seeking me....

Strangely, only Leonidas is my vocal "Meezer", though none are
'pure'.  Even my one purebred wasn't much of a talker.  Smokie is a
"Mutt" (she actually likes being called smokiemutt), but can she
talk?  Wow...

Barnabus has a tendency to go into the hallway, and stand there and
just cry and cry.  Until I tell him I'm in the living room, then he
runs out, jumps in my lap and goes to sleep.  He is getting a bit up
in years though, so maybe it's just him forgetting that I'm actually
here, particularly when he can't hear me.

Smeagol is a Lynx Point, Marley is a Snowshoe and they are
littermates.  I didn't even know about Smeag until the vet told me.  I
just thought he was a silly little cross-eyed, big chinned, very
strong Tigger wannabe.  Both boys squeak rather than meow, and Smeag
thinks he is a dog.  A very big dog, in truth, he fetches, he rolls
over on command, he adores tummy rubs and haunch pats.

We have Pandy (Pandora, who crawled into the "top" of the stove when
we were cleaning the heating elements, gotta find that picture),
another "mutt", who only vocalizes prior to vomiting (rather like
Mrow, Mrow, Mrow, MRALPH, ack, ack, ack......), Jeb who has a
plaintive cry only when his tummy hurts (but he rarely if ever vomits,
thank heavens).

Jeb is a Flame Point, he's the one I wrote about that someone
neutered, declawed, then dumped.  Moved hisself right in with me,
soon's he read the sign out front (that I still haven't found) that
says, "Free Food and Lovin's For Any Cat Around" in catspeak....
John F. Eldredge - 17 May 2008 02:42 GMT
> On May 16, 11:52 am, "Smokie Darling (Annie)" <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> *could* understand...  little men in white jackets driving a van with
> padded cargo area would be seeking me....

While my mostly-gray calico cat doesn't have Meezer coloring, she
definitely has a Meezer voice.  There must be some Siamese in her
ancestry.  Not only will she talk back to me, she will also talk back to
the TV or radio at times, sounding off each time someone says something.

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Stormmee - 18 May 2008 16:44 GMT
if I ever did understand it better, the hospital guys wouldn't get me
because the cat would be able to tell me how to escape, Lee
On May 15, 7:21 pm, "Granby" <s...@joink.com> wrote:
> Heck, I spend half my life talking to myself or the cats, I don't expect
> answers all the time, not even from them.

But honestly, how awesome would it be if your cats did answer you?
Hee.  You know, before you got hauled off by the men from the "State
Hospital" anyway (lol).

I talk to my furkids daily, and two of them talk back, but as I'm
nowhere near fluent in "Catspeak", I don't understand what they are
saying to me, most of the time.

Smokie Darling (Annie)

<snipped for brevity>
Stormmee - 16 May 2008 08:25 GMT
I read lots more than I respond to, Mark comes to mind, I love his stories,
but he seems to be the one I read just before an
emergency/appointment/puking cat makes me leave the computer, Lee

> On May 15, 7:08 pm, "Kyla =^. .^=" <kyla.water...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
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>
> Tweed
Yowie - 16 May 2008 02:04 GMT
>> Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't
>> say anything right.
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> just as important as anyone else here. Nobody's any better than anyone
> else.

I'm with Sherry. You did come on a bit strong when you first joined, but
hey, its understandable when you find a group like this. If thats the worst
crime you commit on usenet, you are doing fine!

Now, for the standard advice that I give everyone (its even inthe FAQ).

A new person to the group will always attract alot of attention. When you
are new, you will usually attract alot of replies simply because you are new
and different. But once you've been around for a while, the 'novelty' has
gone and the replies to posts gets less - sometimes you'll get no replies at
all.

Rather than worrying about why you've suddenly become unpopular, its time to
rejoice. Why? because it means you have been welcomed as part of the family.
You no longer have guest status. People will now only comment on a post of
yours if htey think they have something worth saying in response rather than
replying because its 'polite'. Sometimes they will agree 100% but saying 'me
too' is pretty much a waste of space. You've reached the point where the
silence is comfortable (and you're expected to help yourself to the fridge
if you want soemthing, rather than waiting to be asked)

If that bothers you, its more your low self esteem talking than anything
going on inthe group. After all, if you'd really hissed the group off, we
would have let you know. We're like cats in that regard - usually all cute
and purry, but know what our claws are for and have no problem using htem
when necessary.

(And just a frendly note, asking 'what have I done wrong?' alot, when you
haven't actually done anything wrong will eventually be seen as attention
seeking behaviour, and that *will* hiss people off)

Yowie
Kyla =^. .^= - 16 May 2008 02:28 GMT
"Yowie"

> I'm with Sherry. You did come on a bit strong when you first joined, but
> hey, its understandable when you find a group like this. If thats the
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>
> Yowie

Thanks for the info and  kind advice Yowie:)
I totally understand what you mean.
Hug
Kyla
hopitus - 17 May 2008 18:02 GMT
> >> Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't
> >> say anything right.
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Remember you inquired of us....my post would be a combo of those from
Vicky
(Yowie...BTW Yowie maybe you could once again explain, to Kyla &
others, what
a "Yowie" really is down in OZ, LOL) whom I consider our Honored
Moderator in
this ng - yeah, I know we don't have a moderator, but she is the Voice
of Reason
for a long time now...and have utmost respect for. Also a combo of
post of
Enfilade; great advice since you asked for advice.
I have never been "mad" at you per se. When you began posting in 2/08
I never
dreamed that the only ng you ever frequented before was your PF ng
that you
evidently moderated and kept going. This is not the only ng I post to
and this
group here in rpca is pussycats compared to some of the regs in hacker
ngs;
if you 'hiss' some of those dudes off, your beloved PC would be at
risk as they
*do* know how to do it. Lurking is the way to go there unless you
really have
something useful and/or respectful/interesting to them to say!
But back to rpca. You are not and have never been
'contentious' (Tweed, love
that word) and I don't question your love for cats. Not my intention
to 'hurt your
feelings' but know this; my friend Joyce in CA is mistaken in her
belief that
this 'social critter' - which I'm not - gives a r*** a** what folks
all over the world,
although cat lovers, whom I will never set eyes on, thinks in general
of what I
post....there is, however, the element of respect and manners I try to
adhere to.
You, OTOH, are about the most 'social' critter I've seen here and just
the opposite
of me, I finally realize. You really didn't have any posting
experience in ng's other
than PF and after lurking on that one a little bit I conclude that the
hackers would
have a field day there w/the flying insults (not from you, LOL).
Combining Fil and Vicky's advice....stick around, read what you like,
just don't
comment on it all, and don't take personally what you find insulting
or annoying
or...more common....'boooooo-ring'. Not necessary to take this to
heart, just try
to actively work on NOT thinking anyone has anything against you just
because
they don't 'answer' your posts, okay? BTW I care - about your outlook
- or as
stated before - wouldn't bother to post this, period.
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 17 May 2008 22:56 GMT
> You really didn't have any posting experience in ng's other
> than PF and after lurking on that one a little bit I conclude that the
> hackers would have a field day there w/the flying insults (not from
> you, LOL).

Wait - I thought "PF" stood for "Pink Floyd". There are hackers on that ng?

Signature

Joyce

To email me, remove the triple-X from my user name.  ^..^

Kyla =^. .^= - 18 May 2008 01:36 GMT
<bastXXXette
> hopitus <hopitus:
>
> > You really didn't have any posting experience in ng's other
> > than PF and after lurking on that one a little bit I conclude that the
> > hackers would have a field day there w/the flying insults (not from
> > you, LOL).

Oh the trolls are having a field day with me there too, so I just killfile
them.

> Wait - I thought "PF" stood for "Pink Floyd".

It does stand for Pink Floyd, my favorite band,
where I've been the 'Den Mom' for 11 years now <G>

>There are hackers on that ng?

Not hackers, just worthless mean  trolls.
Kyla
--sweltering in 99 degree heat at 5:35 pm Saturday night
Matthew - 18 May 2008 05:40 GMT
you would hate to be in Florida

> <bastXXXette
>> hopitus <hopitus:
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> Kyla
> --sweltering in 99 degree heat at 5:35 pm Saturday night
Kyla =^. .^= - 18 May 2008 06:35 GMT
Yes, yes I would...

"Matthew" <
> you would hate to be in Florida
>
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>> Kyla
>> --sweltering in 99 degree heat at 5:35 pm Saturday night
Kyla =^. .^= - 16 May 2008 02:16 GMT
"Sherry"

I think you're doing fine. I don't know what posts you're referring
to. I didn't see anyone sound like they were mad. Maybe I missed a
post.
Anyway, Kyla, if you truly want me to be honest, you came on a little
strong there at first, when you first started posting. Out of
curiosity I once checked google, and you'd posted 140 times in one
day. That's kind of excessive, don't you think? That's likely where
the adjective "frenetic" came from, though I don't recall that post
either. Maybe that's what it was.

Wow, I did?  Yeesh.
When I first came on a few months ago, I did post alot, trying to find out
about people here, etc.
fed the trolls and got reamed for it, but I've learned my lesson on that.
I try and not post as much now.

>You shouldn't feel like you're not of value. You and Mosey, etc. are
>just as important as anyone else here. Nobody's any better than anyone
>else.

Sherry

Thank you for your informative, kind reply Sherry.
Hug
Kyla
Kajikit - 16 May 2008 02:09 GMT
>Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
>anything right.
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>*sigh*
>Kyla...sad

You're not doing anything wrong sweety, and I don't know why you think
you are! Grab the closest (or most amenable) furbaby and have a good
cuddle - it always makes me feel better....
Kyla =^. .^= - 16 May 2008 02:30 GMT
"Kajikit"

> You're not doing anything wrong sweety, and I don't know why you think
> you are! Grab the closest (or most amenable) furbaby and have a good
> cuddle - it always makes me feel better....

I'm gonna do just that <G>
I'm still learning the 'basics'
Thanks
HUG
Kyla
Joy - 16 May 2008 02:33 GMT
> Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
> anything right.
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> *sigh*
> Kyla...sad

Hang in there, Kyla.  I don't know what this is about, but I've never heard
of anybody who could please everybody all the time.

Many of us don't have time to read all the posts, so you might not get a
response - or a defense - when you expect it.

You're a good person.

Hugs and purrs,

Joy
Kyla =^. .^= - 16 May 2008 02:40 GMT
"Joy"

> Hang in there, Kyla.  I don't know what this is about, but I've never
> heard of anybody who could please everybody all the time.

Yeah, there's an old saying that '
if you try and make everybody happy, then no one is happy'.

> Many of us don't have time to read all the posts, so you might not get a
> response - or a defense - when you expect it.

True, I realize that now.

> You're a good person.

Thank you, and so are you <G>

> Hugs and purrs,
>
> Joy

Hugs and Purrs back atcha
Kyla
Enfilade - 16 May 2008 03:14 GMT
First up, not everyone will like everyone else.  So, frig the people
who don't like you, and frig the people who rub you the wrong way.  As
long as there are people here you like to talk to, and things you like
to read about, good enough.  You can ignore the other people and let
them ignore you.

Secondly, not every post is going to get an answer.  Sometimes that's
disappointing.  Realize, though, that people aren't trying to be
malicious...sometimes they feel they have nothing to add, other times
they're busy, etc. etc.  You just try again the next time you have
something to say.  Don't flip out imagining that people hate you when
there's no evidence of malicious intent.

Some people are cranky so...see #1 when someone snaps at you!

Thirdly, if you post a whole lot in a short time, it can be
overwhelming.  I know when you're new to a group you're excited to
join in and make yourself heard, but too many posts at once are
overwhelming to readers.  I know sometimes I have 3 or 4 stories to
tell at the same time but I space them out, waiting until one is off
the front page before I post the next one.

--Fil
(I'm the scary one in the basement, with all the piercings and stuff.)
outsider - 16 May 2008 19:36 GMT
Enfilade <decepticoncommand@hotmail.com> wrote in news:8dcd6c10-9703-
4ad9-aaa3-f3549fb1bdd4@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

> First up, not everyone will like everyone else.  So, frig the people
> who don't like you, and frig the people who rub you the wrong way.  As
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> --Fil
> (I'm the scary one in the basement, with all the piercings and stuff.)

This is a great "general posting philosophy" for usenet.  All I would add
is until someone on usenet is paying my salary none of them can make me
feel too bad.

Andy
Will in New Haven - 16 May 2008 19:57 GMT
> Enfilade <decepticoncomm...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:8dcd6c10-9703-
> 4ad9-aaa3-f3549fb1b...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
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> is until someone on usenet is paying my salary none of them can make me
> feel too bad.

Ditto, except that the people who pay me can kiss my butt too.

--
Will in New Haven

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MaryL - 16 May 2008 12:50 GMT
> Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
> anything right.
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> *sigh*
> Kyla...sad

I think several people have given you good information.  You are not doing
anything wrong, with the possible exception that you post so often that
there is a tendency to skip over many of your messages.  Most of us have
limited time.  As a result -- speaking for myself, at least -- we may read
some and skip over others.  I have learned to read every message from some
people who always seem to have good, solid information, but I read only a
small fraction (often depending on the subject shown) if someone "snows us
under" with too many messages.  Now, I may fall into that category myself
because there are times when I think I respond too many times.

MaryL
Stormmee - 18 May 2008 16:20 GMT
for me when I have the time I post more and other times when I am busy I
read the first post in a thread and skip the rest, Lee

> > Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
> > anything right.
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>
> MaryL
NeeCee - 16 May 2008 13:39 GMT
I've done some dumb things & gotten fussed at too,but like a bad penny.I
keep coming back!
> Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
> anything right.
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> *sigh*
> Kyla...sad
Will in New Haven - 16 May 2008 18:36 GMT
> Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
> anything right.
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> *sigh*
> Kyla...sad

Nothing wrong, so far as I can see. I don't respond to every message
from _anyone_ and sometimes a message seems, I dunno, self-contained
and requiring no response. I'm sure that there are people here who
don't like me and I suppose there are people here who don't like you.
But there aren't many in your case, I'm sure, and the way to deal with
it is to just keep on going. A little while ago, you seemed to be
posting an awful LOT, which may have bothered some people. But it
probably just meant that some people missed some of your posts out of
there being so many.

--
Will in New Haven
Baha - 17 May 2008 01:44 GMT
>Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
>anything right.
>I have alot of people mad at me, and I know I'm in a lot of hoomins
>litterboxes.
>I really love the funny pictures and videos, but the sadness and angst
>really get to me.  I don''t feel like I'm of any value here whatsoever.

I understand...I feel the same way sometimes. I can be a jerk. I still owe
cards sent because Louie and I both got a long-lasting case of bronchitis
last holidays and when all the germs were gone so was the season,m and I
wonder how people would like a Christmas in July. I didn 't act right on one
person's cooking advice, resulting in a terrifyingly ugly Thanksgiving turkey,
and i got chewn out but good for it. But we live with it, and ask forgiveness
(please? for me?)

You haven't done anything to make me mad, at any rate. it takes a lot. I like
you.

Blessed be,
Baha
Kyla =^. .^= - 18 May 2008 01:43 GMT
"Baha via CatKB.com" <...
>>Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
>>anything right.
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> turkey,
> and i got chewn out but good for it.

Well, IMO, people would like a Christmas in July <G>  As for the turkey
incident, well, next time, it'll be okay, no worries:)

But we live with it, and ask forgiveness
> (please? for me?)

You've done nothing to me to ask for forgivness my dear.

> You haven't done anything to make me mad, at any rate. it takes a lot. I
> like
> you.

Thank you, I really appreciate you saying that.
I too am slow to anger.
I like you too <G>
Hug
Kyla

> Blessed be,
> Baha

PS love your site and have marked it under my favorites
Rhonda - 19 May 2008 07:51 GMT
> Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
> anything right.
> I have alot of people mad at me, and I know I'm in a lot of hoomins
> litterboxes.

Hi Kyla,

I think you have to have a pretty healthy self-esteem or at least be
somewhat resilient if you stay on usenet. It's pretty easy to feel
everyone's against you, sometimes they are! :) Opinions come and go and
change all of the time. Just be true to yourself and keep on truckin'.

Good luck,

Rhonda
Kyla =^. .^= - 20 May 2008 03:18 GMT
"Rhonda" <
>> Sometimes I just feel like leaving rpca because I feel like I can't say
>> anything right.
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>
> Rhonda

Thanks Rhonda
Hug
Kyla

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