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Matthew - 03 May 2008 01:49 GMT
One  My vet has retired  it is good for him since he has been my vet for
over 24 years and has done wonders to help the community.  He saved so many
animals I can't  count that high.  The bad thing is his two partners one is
a hopeless idiot the other is a cold person good vet but not a friendly
person.  I got to find a new vet this parts sucks.  He saved Rumble and even
saved Spirit for a time.  May the gods bless him in his journeys.

Two the Furball I wanted to adopt after multiple attempts and having to get
the company that does that adoptions involved.  The person gets back to me
no explanation why she has not bothered to call or email  says the furball
is not up for adoption but the site still says she is.  Hopefully the
furball went to a good home and not just sold off like I think she was.
Good thing out of it there are two Bengal's brother and sister are up for
adoptions.  I am thinking of them but from what I understand Bengal's are
very dominate and that would cause problems in the pack.  Also some of them
end up having stomach problems needing them to be on a raw diet can't do
that either since 3 cats won't touch human food.

Three it is time for all the furballs vaccinations updates and I am trying
to figure out where to take them and do I want them to be stressed out to
sit at one of the low cost vaccinations mobile clinics to save probably
about $200 plus dollars.  The clinic charge $7 per cat for all the shots
vets charge about 35-45 for all of them.  It is starting to get hot down
here and it is first come first serve no appointments so it has me a little
at odds.

What is an old man to do?
Granby - 03 May 2008 01:52 GMT
Well, when you find one ask him!
> One  My vet has retired  it is good for him since he has been my vet for
> over 24 years and has done wonders to help the community.  He saved so
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>
> What is an old man to do?
Christina Websell - 03 May 2008 01:58 GMT
> Three it is time for all the furballs vaccinations updates and I am trying
> to figure out where to take them and do I want them to be stressed out to
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>
> What is an old man to do?

Not to sit at a low cost clinic when you know can afford full price through
selling your store empire is my first thought to be honest.

Tweed
or did I remember it wrong?
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 03 May 2008 02:23 GMT
>> What is an old man to do?

> Not to sit at a low cost clinic when you know can afford full price
> through selling your store empire is my first thought to be honest.

"Store empire"? Matthew has a store empire? I'm not even sure what that
means, but it sounds very impressive. :)

I thought Matthew was a retired cop. But lord knows I could certainly
be remembering wrong myself.

Hey, I have an idea. Let's start a thread guessing what Matthew's line
of work was. :) (Kidding!)

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Granby - 03 May 2008 02:28 GMT
Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the rest
of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to survive
monies don't automatically grow back when used.  An Empire, I don't remember
seeing a Matthew the cat man of the fortune 500 list.

> >> What is an old man to do?
>
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> Hey, I have an idea. Let's start a thread guessing what Matthew's line
> of work was. :) (Kidding!)
Granby - 03 May 2008 02:32 GMT
crap can't type with this darn wrist.  That was supposed to be "at an
earlier age" and "see Matthew the cat man in  the fortune 5000"  I done for
the night.
> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the
> rest of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to
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>> Hey, I have an idea. Let's start a thread guessing what Matthew's line
>> of work was. :) (Kidding!)
Matthew - 03 May 2008 02:36 GMT
How I wish I was a fortune 500 man  you know how many shelters would be open
> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the
> rest of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to
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>> Hey, I have an idea. Let's start a thread guessing what Matthew's line
>> of work was. :) (Kidding!)
Christina Websell - 05 May 2008 18:58 GMT
> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the
> rest of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to
> survive monies don't automatically grow back when used.  An Empire, I
> don't remember
Well, I certainly do remember the store empire.  And the recent cruises, and
ask myself why there is no money in the bank to keep back to pay for
veterinary treatment and have to queue up at a low cost clinic which is
surely for people who cannot genuinely afford it.
It makes me cross.   I have had real and serious health problems in the last
few years.  I nearly went blind, fortunately slightly repaired but it ain't
that good, took me three years of losing work money to get that sorted-ish,
and then when the 3 year program on my eyes was finished, 6 months later I
got ovarian cancer,.
Still money in the bank for kitty treatment.  Never touched unless
necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there for.
Granby - 05 May 2008 19:42 GMT
Not that anyone else's financial things are our business but, at least
around here, the places where you can get reduced charges WANT business.
People usually, like I do, add a bit to their bill and still save money.

We all have financial problems.  Husband dies, left with more credit card
than you knew, no medical insurance, house not paid for etc..  The one thing
I know is what my Grandma said "there is no getting around hardships, all
you can do is endure them" and she was right.

>> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the
>> rest of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to
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> Still money in the bank for kitty treatment.  Never touched unless
> necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there for.
Matthew - 05 May 2008 20:19 GMT
You know I had made a long nasty email in retaliation to this  but I erased
it for I don't care what you assume about me.  If you did not take the time
to read the other response and make your assumption than it is not worth it.
If you got crossed about it that is your fault for not taking the time and
reading the response post

But I will be nice here in this one but Don't ever questions that I won't do
anything I can to take care of my family. I have worked harder and longer
than most will ever know to make sure they were taken care of.  I have
sacrificed everything I could and would do it over again to make sure they
are taken care of.

One Christina what you remembering you are also forgetting a lot to the
story.   I had to sell my "EMPIRE " of  stores ( 3) at a major loss due to
the divorce;  even with my prenup the laws are still in favor of the wife in
Florida.  I lost 80% of the profit I was to get upon selling the stores and
house.  The market slumped so the house market was bad than so the house
sold for a 1/4 of what it was worth.  I live on what I have in the bank off
the interest.  So I am budget.  Yes I can afford to take the money out and
run up my credit cards with out thinking about it  but it effects me in the
long run  making  the money short in the budget.   The permits were
finalized this past Christmas but the stores were already gone.  2 Christmas
ago the divorce was finalized but the proceeding were going on the year
before  so this is 3 years total this has been going on.  A lot has
happening in those 3 years the money and glory days are gone.  I stand a
defeated man left to make sure his mother and his furballs are taken care
of.  I hope you are happy that I admitted this but it feels good to get off
my chest.  If I had all this money you assume I have I would have been
helping out those who need the help in the group

I took one cruise that I saved up for over a year to take.   It was a
discounted cruise in the off season so it was cheap. It was $400 for
everything that was the excursion, gratuities, food  anything and everything
that had to do with it. Think abut that $400 divided by 16  that is 25 a
month.  IF that was a lot of money since you are making out that I did the
grand adventures Cruises  I hate to see you idea of grand jour.

 I am planning to take another one or do something  when the group gets
together to plan out the RPCA adventure.  I am saving my pennies for that
one.  I have a fund set up for the cats  but it will be hurting once I take
Rumble in for the curve and Phantom in for his blood work to make sure his
hyperthyroidism it leveling out.  I was trying to keep as much money in
there just in case something pops up like it did a few months ago trying to
save Spirit's life when he went into respiratory failure  but hey I will
take it all out so the cats have no back up since it makes you "cross"  just
to make you happy  PS THAT IS NOT EVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

Also remember In am in the US not the UK   the low cost clinics here take
all the money they make and donate it to local shelters.  The free clinics
are for people who can't afford it.  I was considering the low cost clinic
since I could get the all in one shots for $7 and not have to pay 35 - 45
for each shot at a vets office that profits a vet I don't know or like since
my vet retired.  Lets see 7 dollars a cats compared around $45 a cat times 5
that is $35 or $225.  It could save me money so I could also donate to the
clinic but hey Christina lets make assumptions and make some comments before
you remember the whole thing.  No problem

I would love for you to live where I do and off what was left over and take
care of 5 cats and an elderly mom plus live with out using credit cards and
make sure the money in the bank will last till both of us are dead.  One of
the reason I had to go back to work to make sure money was there for the
small stuff and anything extra goes into the cat fund.  If it gets any worse
I will have to go back full time two jobs and I don't know If I can do that
in my current health condition.   I should have never sold my business but
hey since they bought them only one store is open  they failed since the
economy here died so I at least saved myself  from utter failure

Need anymore explanations so you don't become " cross " again

>> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the
>> rest of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to
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> Still money in the bank for kitty treatment.  Never touched unless
> necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there for.
Christina Websell - 05 May 2008 21:08 GMT
> You know I had made a long nasty email in retaliation to this  but I
> erased it for I don't care what you assume about me.  If you did not take
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>
> Need anymore explanations so you don't become " cross " again

No. I feel awful.  I should keep my mouth shut, I have enough to put up with
myself
Matthew - 05 May 2008 21:21 GMT
"Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk>

Christina I don't want to fight .  I care for everyone out here on the group
that includes you.

I just want to make clear to everyone That I would do anything to protect,
take care of my family and the furballs just like I know you and everyone
else would
Normin - 05 May 2008 21:35 GMT
>> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to
>> eat for the rest of your life, pay medical and all the other
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> unless necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there
> for.

You know, life hands us all burdens that we must bear, and we
make our own 'luck' much of the time.  Matthew was smart enough
with his money to make sure that he (and his mother, and various
cats in his care) will be provided for in the future.  That is a
good thing, and it's sad that anyone would resent him for having
more than they do.  He earned those cruises, and the right to
decide how he wants to spend his money just like the rest of us
did... Good on him to try to save a buck any way he can, so he
can enjoy the fruits of his labor and good judgement for many
many years to come.  At least he's not on the public dole and/or
counting the days when Uncle Sam will have to take care of him.
(Plus it seems to me that I've read more than once where he's
donated money, goods, and/or services to local animal shelters
and other animal causes?  I think he's entitled to take advantage
of the lower cost animal clinics if he has the time and patience
to take his cats there)

Sara
Granby - 05 May 2008 22:54 GMT
As my sister/friend , who some folks would say can make a penny squeal, "You
save where you can so you can spend where you want."  Since being on my own
again, this has been very good advice.

>>> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the
>>> rest of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to
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>
> Sara
Stormmee - 08 May 2008 10:44 GMT
*stands up and proudly takes credit for this saying*  Lee, I love saving a
penny
> As my sister/friend , who some folks would say can make a penny squeal, "You
> save where you can so you can spend where you want."  Since being on my own
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> >
> > Sara
Christina Websell - 06 May 2008 22:37 GMT
>>> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to
>>> eat for the rest of your life, pay medical and all the other
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>
> Sara

Maybe I've misunderstood, perhaps a low-cost clinic means something
different over the pond. Here it means you don't have enough money to pay
full-cost vets, they are paid for by charity and I take a dim view of
someone who takes a cruise and does not leave enough in the bank for his
possible vet bills.
Flame me, I don't care. tbh.
Even when I was really ill and lost my income there was always something
tucked away for KFC & Boyfie if they should need it.
Kyla  =^. .^= - 08 May 2008 05:28 GMT
Oh dear Gramby, I am so sorry to hear about your health issues:(
I hope your cancer is in remission and you are in my prayers.
You are such a sweetheart, and we'd hate to lose you.
Which cat is KFC?  Is he/she okay?
Love you,
PUUUUUURS
Kyla

>>> "Granby"
>>>> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to
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>>> unless necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there
>>> for.
Granby - 08 May 2008 20:52 GMT
Darlin' you got me catfused with someone else.  Thank God I don't have
cancer issues.  For my age am in  real good health, no medication of any
kind, for the moment.  One bad thing I have is about 15 pounds too much
weight and a bad wrist.
> Oh dear Gramby, I am so sorry to hear about your health issues:(
> I hope your cancer is in remission and you are in my prayers.
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>>>> unless necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there
>>>> for.
Sherry - 09 May 2008 06:06 GMT
On May 6, 4:37 pm, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:

> >>> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to
> >>> eat for the rest of your life, pay medical and all the other
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Christina, it may be very different from what you're familiar with in
England. Our vets do
"vaccination clinics" every spring. They offer the vaccinations at
their cost for the serum. They sometimes
have these clinics at a public place, like City Hall or sometimes one
of their offices, always on a
Saturday when they're closed.
The object, I believe, for the clinics is to raise awareness of the
rabies problem which is highest in spring.
Rabies shots are only $5. But they'll also vaccinate/test for feluek
and other cat/dog diseases.
The purpose is to get folks who might normally not have their animals
vaccinated, but anyone is welcome.
It is not in any way subsidized by government. It is not for low
income folks, and there are no qualifications.
The vets are just donating their time and selling the vax at
their cost. It's a good deal for them too; they get new clients out of
the deal usually.
It's the same meds, administered by a local, licensed vet. And saving
$200 on the deal is something to
think about. That's a substantial amount of money that could be used
on an unexpected illness later on.
I'm becoming less and less convinced that my cats need yearly
vaccinations anyway. Yoda hasn't been
vaccinated for 7-8 years since the last one almost killed him. My
daughter's Maine Coon is dying from
vaccinatiion-site sarcoma.

Sherry

Sherry
polonca12000 - 10 May 2008 22:26 GMT
<snip> Yoda hasn't been
> vaccinated for 7-8 years since the last one almost killed him. My
> daughter's Maine Coon is dying from
> vaccinatiion-site sarcoma.
>
> Sherry

I'm so very sorry to hear that.
Lots and lots of purrs and hugs,
Polonca and Soncek
Matthew - 10 May 2008 22:29 GMT
"Sherry" <sriddles@aol.com>
Christina, it may be very different from what you're familiar with in
England. Our vets do
"vaccination clinics" every spring. They offer the vaccinations at
their cost for the serum. They sometimes
have these clinics at a public place, like City Hall or sometimes one
of their offices, always on a
Saturday when they're closed.
The object, I believe, for the clinics is to raise awareness of the
rabies problem which is highest in spring.
Rabies shots are only $5. But they'll also vaccinate/test for feluek
and other cat/dog diseases.
The purpose is to get folks who might normally not have their animals
vaccinated, but anyone is welcome.
It is not in any way subsidized by government. It is not for low
income folks, and there are no qualifications.
The vets are just donating their time and selling the vax at
their cost. It's a good deal for them too; they get new clients out of
the deal usually.
It's the same meds, administered by a local, licensed vet. And saving
$200 on the deal is something to
think about. That's a substantial amount of money that could be used
on an unexpected illness later on.
I'm becoming less and less convinced that my cats need yearly
vaccinations anyway. Yoda hasn't been
vaccinated for 7-8 years since the last one almost killed him. My
daughter's Maine Coon is dying from
vaccinatiion-site sarcoma.

Sherry

I am sorry sherry
Stormmee - 06 May 2008 11:33 GMT
tweed,

I think you are cross because you are confusing don't have with trying to
conserve, if you remember it was One cruise just after he sold the stores,
and I also remember a divorce, those in the state he lives cost the partner
who earned more way out of portions... don't get me wrong, even if he had
twice what he does, he is now basically on a fixed income, and if he can go
to the clinic and save some on regular expenses there will be more there for
an emergency... and something else, here in the states the low cost clinics
are for people who can't afford the vet that is true... but they also serve
two other purposes...they try and convince people who won't spend to get the
shots and general care, and also I am not sure about anywhere else but in my
state they use them as adoption/fund raisers... you are taking your pet for
these shots, and look there is a row of kittens up for adoption.... and as
you pay there is a poster board of the local average prices, so of course,
you give twice what they charge and are still ahead, ... I hope in my tired
confused state, that this makes some sense to you... provided you ever see
it... am having loads of trouble getting on line... for the third day in a
row... let me know if this made sense or not, Lee

> > Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the
> > rest of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Still money in the bank for kitty treatment.  Never touched unless
> necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there for.
Christina Websell - 07 May 2008 21:52 GMT
> tweed,
>
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>> Still money in the bank for kitty treatment.  Never touched unless
>> necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there for.
Christina Websell - 07 May 2008 22:23 GMT
> tweed,
>
> I think you are cross because you are confusing don't have with trying to
> conserve,

I would like to conserve myself since I was unable to work full time since
2001 since nearly losing my sight and then getting ovarian ca. I do not sit
in a low cost clinic for my cats.

> if you remember it was One cruise just after he sold the stores,
> and I also remember a divorce

I seem to remember there was a pre-nup.  For god's sake, I live on a small
wage now because I have to get home before it's dark.  I would love to live
on what Matthew claims to have had.
Granby - 07 May 2008 22:33 GMT
This is going in circles and won't change.  That is really too bad for all
of us.

>> tweed,
>>
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> wage now because I have to get home before it's dark.  I would love to
> live on what Matthew claims to have had.
Matthew - 07 May 2008 22:44 GMT
I think this needs to stop.  Two different countries  two way different
worlds.  This is going nowhere there are going to be some harsh words said
and or hurt feelings are going to come out here soon.  I don't want that.  I
bared enough of my soul  If that was not enough well there is no changing
anything else that will be said.

>> tweed,
>>
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> wage now because I have to get home before it's dark.  I would love to
> live on what Matthew claims to have had.
Granby - 08 May 2008 01:27 GMT
You are definitely right.
>I think this needs to stop.  Two different countries  two way different
>worlds.  This is going nowhere there are going to be some harsh words said
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>> small wage now because I have to get home before it's dark.  I would love
>> to live on what Matthew claims to have had.
Kyla  =^. .^= - 08 May 2008 06:09 GMT
I feel bad because of all the suffering of hoomins and my cats are mad
because I spend too much time on the computer and all sorts of crap is
happening in my life right now, and I just can't deal with things ATM
Sorry
Hug
Kyla

"Matthew"
>I think this needs to stop.  Two different countries  two way different
>worlds.  This is going nowhere there are going to be some harsh words said
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>> small wage now because I have to get home before it's dark.  I would love
>> to live on what Matthew claims to have had.
Stormmee - 08 May 2008 11:01 GMT
agreed, I am sorry if I made it worse I was trying to help, Lee
> I think this needs to stop.  Two different countries  two way different
> worlds.  This is going nowhere there are going to be some harsh words said
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> > wage now because I have to get home before it's dark.  I would love to
> > live on what Matthew claims to have had.
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 08 May 2008 01:53 GMT
> I seem to remember there was a pre-nup.  For god's sake, I live on a small
> wage now because I have to get home before it's dark.  I would love to live
> on what Matthew claims to have had.

Let me ask you, Christina, what do you get out of judging other
people's personal choices? This is not a sarcastic or snide question.
I'm genuinely baffled by this.

I've been reading this thread, and up to now, staying out of it, but
at this point, I'm really just wondering. There are a lot of people
here (and elsewhere) who make choices that I would never make. But if
their choices don't affect me, I can rarely work up enough interest
to have an opinion about it. So it's hard for me to understand why
Matthew's choice of vet clinic, or what his marriage and divorce
arrangements were, should matter to anyone but him.

I guess the exception would be if he was harming his cats - then I
would have an opinion, and not a very positive one. But I can't imagine
Matthew ever hurting a cat, so that point is moot.

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hopitus - 11 May 2008 00:37 GMT
> Let me ask you, Christina, what do you get out of judging other
> people's personal choices? This is not a sarcastic or snide question.
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> Matthew ever hurting a cat, so that point is moot.
> Joyce  LONG
Your post is very well-thought-out, Joyce, and your last sentence in
2nd
paragraph is also my thought. Matt is right, we can get a lot of
strange
ideas from one side of "the pond" to the other. So, let's not argue
pet
facilities on *either* side and their costs.
Tweed said she felt "awful". I'd take that as an apology, myself. Life
has
handed her a "cancer" lemon, and with one of those, you *don't* "make
lemonade". Both as a hospital worker and as personal family
experience,
I've seen what the Big C can do to people and I am talking their
*heads*,
not where it is on/in their bodies. And "cross" don't begin to
describe it.
My relative and different friends whom it claimed lashed out at times
FOR
NO REASON OTHER THAN WE WERE NOT GOING TO DIE SOON
LIKE THEM. You may have read or heard of the 4 stages of facing your
imminent death...hey, I can tell you that some of us never get beyond
stage 1 (denial). or stage 2 (anger). AFAIC Tweed may have further
"cross" posts, and because of my personal background, I think nothing
of them, but those of you w/thinner skins, talk about "cross" when you
deal w/a cancer "lemon" to make lemonade out of. (nasty laugh).
I get riled when reading someone's post re having no $ for whatever
whenever my very good memory recalls - and can almost instantly refind
-
posts where they join a thread and boast their ownership of valuable
items
or inheritance, or something expensive they bought recently....and
they're
posting from a lightning-fast cable or DSL ISP, the most expensive
setup
you can use.In the south, we call that "poormouth talk" Here's one for
ya, Joyce....
why the "need for speed" ISP from
someone who no longer works and has lotsa time to loiter here on our
rpca?
Hmmmm indeed, ROFL. Having infinite patience and not wanting to shell
out
cable prices anymore, I wait while the dial-up goes through its noisy
calling.
Above has nada to do w/Tweed OR Matt...you know who you are, LOL. What
you post here as is oft repeated here is up for anyone to read/
remember.
Make nice and make up, Tweed. Matt is trying to....
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 11 May 2008 00:52 GMT
> I get riled when reading someone's post re having no $ for whatever
> whenever my very good memory recalls - and can almost instantly refind
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> for ya, Joyce.... why the "need for speed" ISP from someone who no longer
> works and has lotsa time to loiter here on our rpca?

But what's it to ya? Seriously. Why do you care if someone you don't even
know is choosing to spend their limited money on DSL or whatever? I don't
know if it's a smart or stupid choice, but the point is, it's *their* choice.

> Hmmmm indeed, ROFL. Having infinite patience and not wanting to shell
> out cable prices anymore, I wait while the dial-up goes through its noisy
> calling.

But that's *you*. You made that choice because that's what makes sense to
you. That doesn't means someone else wants to make the same choice as you.
As long as there's no harm done, who cares?

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hopitus - 11 May 2008 03:59 GMT
On May 10, 5:52 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
>  > I get riled when reading someone's post re having no $ for whatever
>  > whenever my very good memory recalls - and can almost instantly refind
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> As long as there's no harm done, who cares
> Joyce

Uh uh. You didn't get it. Point was not the ISP or why they chose it.
You
misunderstood, but it's okay. I "care" when lack of $ for vet care for
their
sick cat(s) is brought to our attention after posts elsewhere
detailing
valuable stuff they've stashed away. This translates to "lying
hypocrite"
where I come from, and my point was, "how stupid do you think I am?"
if people will not raid their assets to care for their pets bothers
the hell
out of me....bottom line: after *they told us* about said assets.
Matthew - 11 May 2008 09:00 GMT
> On May 10, 5:52 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
>>  > I get riled when reading someone's post re having no $ for whatever
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> the hell
> out of me....bottom line: after *they told us* about said assets.

I am lost here is this an insult or I told you so or something else.

I think you are talking about people who luxuries in life and will not get
up having a drink or a cigar to take care of their pets.  I hope you are not
talking about me ;-)

FYI just because I am roadrunner client does not mean broad band I am down
to DSL lite I feel the need but being old I might cause myself a heart
attack along the way ;-).

FOR the record I will gladly go into debut and loss everything to care for
my furballs.  I would even sell my mother If someone would give me more than
a nickel for her. ;-)
Adrian - 11 May 2008 10:42 GMT
> FOR the record I will gladly go into debut and loss everything to
> care for my furballs.  I would even sell my mother If someone would
> give me more than a nickel for her. ;-)

I bid a dime. ;-)
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hopitus - 11 May 2008 18:28 GMT
> > FOR the record I will gladly go into debut and loss everything to
> > care for my furballs.  I would even sell my mother If someone would
> > give me more than a nickel for her. ;-)

> I bid a dime. ;-)
> Adrian (Owned by Snoopy, Bagheera & Shadow)
> Cats leave pawprints on your hearthttp://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk

If you weren't across the pond I would grab my golf 'brella and
come beat you up, LOL.
hopitus - 11 May 2008 18:01 GMT
> >> But what's it to ya? Seriously. Why do you care if someone you don't even
> >> know is choosing to spend their limited money on DSL or whatever? I don't
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> >> As long as there's no harm done, who cares
> >> Joyce

> > Uh uh. You didn't get it. Point was not the ISP or why they chose it.
> > You
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> my furballs.  I would even sell my mother If someone would give me more than
> a nickel for her. ;-)
Matt, lemme know how much you Mom brings and I'll consider setting
myself up
on the market, LOL. I *thought* I posted a coupla posts ago that the
current ones
had nothing to do w/either you nor Tweed. Neither of you has blasted
your asset
possession here and then whined poormouth, which would be funny if it
didn't
happen so often, IMHO. BTW I have no idea what a roadrunner is except
the
bird that cat is always chasing that goes, "beep beep". (????). Love
ya, Matt.
Other folks vent here about stuff not even related to cats. At least
mine is related
to ability to care for them.
Matthew - 11 May 2008 18:56 GMT
>> >> But what's it to ya? Seriously. Why do you care if someone you don't
>> >> even
[quoted text clipped - 57 lines]
> mine is related
> to ability to care for them.

That was what I was wondering  sometimes when you post  they seem as if they
are from across the pond. :-)

Also for everyone I am not mad at Tweed at all
hopitus - 11 May 2008 19:08 GMT
I* I posted a coupla posts ago that the
> > current ones
> > had nothing to do w/either you nor Tweed. Neither of you has blasted
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> are from across the pond. :-)
> Also for everyone I am not mad at Tweed at all

I knew that. I think Tweed does, too.
But if my posts sometimes seem as you say "????" what is the deal with
the
"beep, beep" roadrunner stuff? "????" Googling it only brings up what
I know,
"beep, beep" bird chased by determined cat....
tanadashoes - 11 May 2008 19:11 GMT
> I* I posted a coupla posts ago that the
>> > current ones
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> I know,
> "beep, beep" bird chased by determined cat....

Road Runner is the trademark name for DSL produced by Time Warner Cable.
They're really good at offering one rate and charging a higher one, at least
in this area of the woods.  My MIL uses Comcast which is produced by Dish
TV, the satellite company.

Pam S. who uses Earthlink DSL
hopitus - 11 May 2008 20:57 GMT
> > I* I posted a coupla posts ago that the
> >> > current ones
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> Pam S. who uses Earthlink DSL

Never would have figured that out. As I said, no logic to much of what
goes on
today. As why a cable co. would call itself after a silly bird that
can't be destroyed
even when the cat chases him over a cliff. Maybe that's their point?
LOL>
John F. Eldredge - 11 May 2008 23:49 GMT
>> > I* I posted a coupla posts ago that the
>> >> > current ones
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> even when the cat chases him over a cliff. Maybe that's their point?
> LOL>

I have never seen any Roadrunner cartoons in which the roadrunner was
being chased by a cat.  It was always being chased by Wile E. Coyote.  We
know the coyote's name because we sometimes were shown his hole with a
signpost next to it.  Also, the coyote was the only one who actually fell
off the cliffs.  In at least one episode, both animals ran off the edge
of a cliff, and stood temporarily on thin air.  The coyote looked down,
got a despairing expression, and help up a sign saying "It isn't fair.",
then fell.  The roadrunner then held up a sign saying, "No, it isn't",
but didn't fall.

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hopitus - 12 May 2008 02:01 GMT
> >> "hopitus" <hopi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
> "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better
> than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

Thanks, John, I had forgotten Wile E. Coyote completely! Now that I
live uut here where real coyotes roam the 'burbs and eat small pets
he should have come to mind, but remember II'm from sourht FL
where once in awhile 'gators do exactly the same thing. No coyotes
there. Imagine my amazement to find roadrunner is a cable co.
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 11 May 2008 09:36 GMT
> Point was not the ISP or why they chose it. You
> misunderstood, but it's okay. I "care" when lack of $ for vet care for
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> pets bothers the hell out of me....bottom line: after *they told us*
> about said assets.

Well, I guess that just makes them *bad* liars, doesn't it? :) If one is
going to lie, one needs to keep track of what one has said previously. :)

I'm not sure which post you're talking about so I can't comment on it.
But if someone is letting their cat get sick because they claim they
can't afford vet care, when in fact they have all this money for other
stuff - yeah, that would bother me. The key phrase to me is, "if no
harm is done", then why does it matter. But if harm is being done, then
yeah, I agree with you.

However, I don't think that's true of Matthew, because he did take his
kitties to the vet for their shots and so forth. I don't think he would
ever let his furballs get sick and not do anything.

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Sherry - 11 May 2008 18:13 GMT
On May 11, 3:36 am, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:

>  > Point was not the ISP or why they chose it. You
>  > misunderstood, but it's okay. I "care" when lack of $ for vet care for
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> --
> Joyce

I can't recall offhand which posts this is in reference to either, but
I am way
familiar with that mindset. I bet I've seen hundreds of people
bringing sick
cats/dogs to the shelter, with the "I can't afford....." excuse. Then
you look
at the professional acrylic fingernail job, the name brand clothing,
the Louis
Vitton bag, and the 2008 SUV they drove up in. Nah. You can't help
notice
those things.
Then there are people who *are* in dire straits, heartbroken because
of their
beloved pet's illness. We *do* help people w/vet bills, and usually
try to
talk the vet into a good discount for them.
Long story, but one thing I learned standing behind the counter at the
H.S. is,
many times "I can't afford"....really translates into, "I don't want
to afford."
My BFF Nancy is much nicer than me, and she snaps me back into reality
sometimes with "Well, maybe someone brought her. Maybe it's not her
car." or
"So what. We are going to help her anyway. We're in the business of
alleviating
suffering in animals, no matter if they have irresponsible owners.
It's the animal that we are about."

Sherry
Lesley - 11 May 2008 18:38 GMT
> "So what. We are going to help her anyway. We're in the business of
> alleviating
> suffering in animals, no matter if they have irresponsible owners.
> It's the animal that we are about."

Good point these people could pay a vet but if they won't then what
can you do but help the animal?

There's a mildly amusing book called "Pet Hates" about the reality of
being a vet and the writer says one thing that never fails to amaze
him is the people who turn up with their puppy in a flash car, the
puppy with distemper only surviving because the vet stayed up all
night to keep getting fluid into the puppy and then they make a scene
about the bill and question every item but the old lady on limited
income whose dog he PTS inevitably is the one who sends him a box of
chocolates and a nice card thanking him for easing her dog gently out
of this life

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
hopitus - 11 May 2008 18:44 GMT
> On May 11, 3:36 am, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>
> Sherry

Thank you, my tasteful friend who is so much better at framing
thoughts
into words than I am.
Matthew - 03 May 2008 02:42 GMT
> >> What is an old man to do?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> "Store empire"? Matthew has a store empire? I'm not even sure what that
> means, but it sounds very impressive. :)

I had 3 stores  one a dollar store two retail like Wal-Mart style  sold both
of them back awhile ago

> I thought Matthew was a retired cop. But lord knows I could certainly
> be remembering wrong myself.

I wish  than I would have one heck of a cookie jar I would have been like
Vic Mackey

I have several degrees  one was in criminology; serial crimes investigation,
one in business management

I always wanted to be a cop wanted to go FBI.  but that involved the
military  I have migraine headaches and it disqualified me for both of them
:-(

> Hey, I have an idea. Let's start a thread guessing what Matthew's line
> of work was. :) (Kidding!)
Matthew - 03 May 2008 02:35 GMT
>> Three it is time for all the furballs vaccinations updates and I am
>> trying to figure out where to take them and do I want them to be stressed
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Tweed
> or did I remember it wrong?

Yes Christina that was true but remember the big "Divorce" and there was a
settlement required after the stores sold  even with the prenup. So my nice
piece of the pie  shrunk big time.  So letting my 3 stores go was a big
mistake than  but if I would have kept them the economy would have shut at
least two of them down due to  competition such as Wal-Mart and other chains
with cost of everything going up.  I put all my money into making sure I
would not have to worry about bills during retirement such as long term care
etc mom is no spring chicken

.  IF I am careful we would make it  but with the economy going to sh@t  I
have taken a part time job to bring in cash and to get out of the house; to
do be able to do little things  so money is not tight yet but if gas keeps
going up my truck is going to be parked and I will be driving mom's fusion.
The pet fund I set up was drained a little with phantom sickness.  I am
trying not to touch that since Phantom will have to go back in for a full
blood panel to make sure his pills are keeping his hyperthyroidism correct
and Rumble is going to be due for his Diabetic curve

I am going to search for a vet place that does it so the cats can stay out
of the heat and not be stressed.  It will be worth the gas If I can find
one.

I can easily put it on a credit card but I am trying not to use them unless
absolutely necessary.  So my "empire" dissolved like all of them do in time.
Now just trying to make sure the pack is healthy
hopitus - 03 May 2008 19:38 GMT
On May 2, 6:58 pm, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Matthew" <Iamacatsl...@proudtoserve.com> wrote in message
> > Three it is time for all the furballs vaccinations updates and I am trying
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> > little at odds.
> > What is an old man to do?

> Not to sit at a low cost clinic when you know can afford full price through
> selling your store empire is my first thought to be honest.
> Tweed
> or did I remember it wrong?
As I used to say much more often as it really amused me one is able to
be
whatever and/or whomever one wishes to be....on the Internet.  Tweed,
you
know how men of all ages proclaim their successes at 'whatever"  -
goes way
back to caveman days, I think (men, you stop reading this NOW) and we
don't really understand this indwelling need in them but tolerate it
as some
sort of means of proclaiming the ability to protect and nurture their
own.
I have good memory for someone my age and I recall Matt used to be
"NMR"
or "no more retail' long ago here on rpca. As he posts, he *may* have
desired
an empire of retail success but if he had one now I doubt he'd be on
here
telling us of his troubles, and especially of the ways I know so well,
the
backward outlook of local politicians toward no-kill shelter extintion
where
he lives now.
No one could question Matt's love and concern for furballs, IMHO. To
make it
as short as it oughta be, you have no idea how bad $ problems have got
how
quickly lately for the average citizen here to live. And I *am*
talking choosing
between food and medicine on ony given month.
Matthew - 04 May 2008 06:38 GMT
On May 2, 6:58 pm, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Matthew" <Iamacatsl...@proudtoserve.com> wrote in message
> > Three it is time for all the furballs vaccinations updates and I am
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> > little at odds.
> > What is an old man to do?

> Not to sit at a low cost clinic when you know can afford full price
> through
> selling your store empire is my first thought to be honest.
> Tweed
> or did I remember it wrong?
As I used to say much more often as it really amused me one is able to
be
whatever and/or whomever one wishes to be....on the Internet.  Tweed,
you
know how men of all ages proclaim their successes at 'whatever"  -
goes way
back to caveman days, I think (men, you stop reading this NOW) and we
don't really understand this indwelling need in them but tolerate it
as some
sort of means of proclaiming the ability to protect and nurture their
own.
I have good memory for someone my age and I recall Matt used to be
"NMR"
or "no more retail' long ago here on rpca. As he posts, he *may* have
desired
an empire of retail success but if he had one now I doubt he'd be on
here
telling us of his troubles, and especially of the ways I know so well,
the
backward outlook of local politicians toward no-kill shelter extintion
where
he lives now.
No one could question Matt's love and concern for furballs, IMHO. To
make it
as short as it oughta be, you have no idea how bad $ problems have got
how
quickly lately for the average citizen here to live. And I *am*
talking choosing
between food and medicine on ony given month.

AMEN.  But I did have a nice chunk of the pie till the Big D and I had to
share it even though she had nothing to do with the business but that is how
it goes

Also good memory don't forget Matthew AKA NMR among a few others
Kyla  =^. .^= - 04 May 2008 07:08 GMT
"Matthew" >
> "hopitus" <
> On May 2, 6:58 pm, "Christina Websell"
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
>
> Also good memory don't forget Matthew AKA NMR among a few others

Hi Matthew, nice to see you again
PUUUUURS
Kyla
Stormmee - 04 May 2008 08:34 GMT
you know it doesn't really matter how much one has, if you are not
conservative where you can be it won't last long anyway, Lee
On May 2, 6:58 pm, "Christina Websell"
<spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Matthew" <Iamacatsl...@proudtoserve.com> wrote in message
> > Three it is time for all the furballs vaccinations updates and I am trying
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> > little at odds.
> > What is an old man to do?

> Not to sit at a low cost clinic when you know can afford full price through
> selling your store empire is my first thought to be honest.
> Tweed
> or did I remember it wrong?
As I used to say much more often as it really amused me one is able to
be
whatever and/or whomever one wishes to be....on the Internet.  Tweed,
you
know how men of all ages proclaim their successes at 'whatever"  -
goes way
back to caveman days, I think (men, you stop reading this NOW) and we
don't really understand this indwelling need in them but tolerate it
as some
sort of means of proclaiming the ability to protect and nurture their
own.
I have good memory for someone my age and I recall Matt used to be
"NMR"
or "no more retail' long ago here on rpca. As he posts, he *may* have
desired
an empire of retail success but if he had one now I doubt he'd be on
here
telling us of his troubles, and especially of the ways I know so well,
the
backward outlook of local politicians toward no-kill shelter extintion
where
he lives now.
No one could question Matt's love and concern for furballs, IMHO. To
make it
as short as it oughta be, you have no idea how bad $ problems have got
how
quickly lately for the average citizen here to live. And I *am*
talking choosing
between food and medicine on ony given month.
Lesley - 04 May 2008 18:17 GMT
you have no idea how bad $ problems have got
> how
> quickly lately for the average citizen here to live. And I *am*
> talking choosing
> between food and medicine on ony given month.

It's getting the same over here. The government say inflation is
runnin at 2.45% but their own retail price index says 4.75 and
rising...

And it's worse than that because okay, tube fares, TV licences, water
rates etc go up every year and what can you do but sigh? (or as I did
with the council tax persuade Dave to set a standing order from his
bank account) but food has been pretty stable until recently. Over the
road from us there is a little sandwich bar, it's not that good but
occasionally I use it for something to take to work if I am running
late- in other words I use it quite a lot-well you're about to head
for the door and Sarsi throws a toy at you and makes it clear she
wants to be played with- what can you do? And their prices have hardly
changed more than a few pence in the last couple of years but last
week they put everything up twenty pence..last week our local off
licence slapped another 50 pence on a 6-pack of beer and the pub
prices have risen twenty pence since Xmas- these are major expenses
for us!

This morning I was really ravenous and wanted something fast and
filling so we decided on pasta. The pack of fusili was 76 pence, last
time I brought one which as we are both major consumers of pasta was
not that long ago, the same pack was 62 pence. The brand of bread we
both really like has recently gone up fifty pence a loaf, Wet cat food
is also up as in the last few weeks I've noticed are mouthwash, low
fat spread, eggs (Good move Tweed!), potatoes, baked beans and come to
think of it mushrooms. We are not talking luxury foodstuffs here but
the everyday basics everyone has to buy

I don't earn bad money but I have considered asking the Furballs to go
and catch their own meals....then again I would be so worried if they
were outside any savings on the cat food bill would be offset by
increased spending on the alcohol bill.

Worse if you're on a fixed income my friend John is now 200 pounds a
year worse off due to abolition of the ten percent tax band and whilst
he can afford it because his fixed income is very good he wonders how
people on less money can manage

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Jo Firey - 03 May 2008 02:25 GMT
> One  My vet has retired  it is good for him since he has been my vet for
> over 24 years and has done wonders to help the community.  He saved so
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> What is an old man to do?

First, be very early for the vaccination clinic.  They need your money more
than the vet anyway.  But do consider not getting anyone more than one shot
a week.

Second.  Stay away from Bengal's unless you are able to devote yourself
very much to their care and feeding.  They can be extremely demanding.
However, they are a case of two are better than one since they will keep
each other occupied.  If they are adults you might be able to find what
diet they are on and how well they handle it.  My friend's girl Bengal
barfs up anything but raw.  (BTW, just because you clowder doesn't care for
people food doesn't mean they wouldn't love raw.  Its usually ground up
whole chickens plus supplements)

Exotics can be rough on the vet costs as well.

Jo
Matthew - 03 May 2008 02:55 GMT
>> One  My vet has retired  it is good for him since he has been my vet for
>> over 24 years and has done wonders to help the community.  He saved so
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> more than the vet anyway.  But do consider not getting anyone more than
> one shot a week.

It is not about the money I can spend it if I have to  but I rather it go to
a worthy cause than a vet that I don't know pocket.

Good advice but the clinics come about every 4 to 6  months.  I am going to
seach the sunday paper for them in differnet locations.  I can travel with
one or two cats a week

> Second.  Stay away from Bengal's unless you are able to devote yourself
> very much to their care and feeding.  They can be extremely demanding.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Jo
I have tried raw with them  3 of them want nothing to do with anything human
raw or other wise.  Having the stores I could have maintained chicken with
no problem  so I tried  3 of them wanted nothing to do with it.  Rumble
would eat it but barfed it up as soon as he ate it.

This is what I was worried about.  The only reason I was thinking of them
was I could adopt them for free.  They are a year old but I don't want any
more problems that I can avoid for the pack
Stormmee - 03 May 2008 09:03 GMT
I will bring you a wonderful cat if you like, she needs a man for her main
human, or I can bring you one you share a name with, he is a complete lap
fungus, I would probably go with the clinic if I could go early enough, Lee
> One  My vet has retired  it is good for him since he has been my vet for
> over 24 years and has done wonders to help the community.  He saved so many
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> What is an old man to do?
Granby - 03 May 2008 21:01 GMT
I have done the clinic thing before.  I always add a few extra bucks at the
end and still saved a bunch.
>I will bring you a wonderful cat if you like, she needs a man for her main
> human, or I can bring you one you share a name with, he is a complete lap
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>>
>> What is an old man to do?
 
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