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Matthew - 03 May 2008 01:49 GMT One My vet has retired it is good for him since he has been my vet for over 24 years and has done wonders to help the community. He saved so many animals I can't count that high. The bad thing is his two partners one is a hopeless idiot the other is a cold person good vet but not a friendly person. I got to find a new vet this parts sucks. He saved Rumble and even saved Spirit for a time. May the gods bless him in his journeys.
Two the Furball I wanted to adopt after multiple attempts and having to get the company that does that adoptions involved. The person gets back to me no explanation why she has not bothered to call or email says the furball is not up for adoption but the site still says she is. Hopefully the furball went to a good home and not just sold off like I think she was. Good thing out of it there are two Bengal's brother and sister are up for adoptions. I am thinking of them but from what I understand Bengal's are very dominate and that would cause problems in the pack. Also some of them end up having stomach problems needing them to be on a raw diet can't do that either since 3 cats won't touch human food.
Three it is time for all the furballs vaccinations updates and I am trying to figure out where to take them and do I want them to be stressed out to sit at one of the low cost vaccinations mobile clinics to save probably about $200 plus dollars. The clinic charge $7 per cat for all the shots vets charge about 35-45 for all of them. It is starting to get hot down here and it is first come first serve no appointments so it has me a little at odds.
What is an old man to do?
Granby - 03 May 2008 01:52 GMT Well, when you find one ask him!
> One My vet has retired it is good for him since he has been my vet for > over 24 years and has done wonders to help the community. He saved so [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > What is an old man to do? Christina Websell - 03 May 2008 01:58 GMT > Three it is time for all the furballs vaccinations updates and I am trying > to figure out where to take them and do I want them to be stressed out to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What is an old man to do? Not to sit at a low cost clinic when you know can afford full price through selling your store empire is my first thought to be honest.
Tweed or did I remember it wrong?
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 03 May 2008 02:23 GMT >> What is an old man to do?
> Not to sit at a low cost clinic when you know can afford full price > through selling your store empire is my first thought to be honest. "Store empire"? Matthew has a store empire? I'm not even sure what that means, but it sounds very impressive. :)
I thought Matthew was a retired cop. But lord knows I could certainly be remembering wrong myself.
Hey, I have an idea. Let's start a thread guessing what Matthew's line of work was. :) (Kidding!)
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Granby - 03 May 2008 02:28 GMT Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the rest of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to survive monies don't automatically grow back when used. An Empire, I don't remember seeing a Matthew the cat man of the fortune 500 list.
> >> What is an old man to do? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Hey, I have an idea. Let's start a thread guessing what Matthew's line > of work was. :) (Kidding!) Granby - 03 May 2008 02:32 GMT crap can't type with this darn wrist. That was supposed to be "at an earlier age" and "see Matthew the cat man in the fortune 5000" I done for the night.
> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the > rest of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> Hey, I have an idea. Let's start a thread guessing what Matthew's line >> of work was. :) (Kidding!) Matthew - 03 May 2008 02:36 GMT How I wish I was a fortune 500 man you know how many shelters would be open
> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the > rest of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> Hey, I have an idea. Let's start a thread guessing what Matthew's line >> of work was. :) (Kidding!) Christina Websell - 05 May 2008 18:58 GMT > Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the > rest of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to > survive monies don't automatically grow back when used. An Empire, I > don't remember Well, I certainly do remember the store empire. And the recent cruises, and ask myself why there is no money in the bank to keep back to pay for veterinary treatment and have to queue up at a low cost clinic which is surely for people who cannot genuinely afford it. It makes me cross. I have had real and serious health problems in the last few years. I nearly went blind, fortunately slightly repaired but it ain't that good, took me three years of losing work money to get that sorted-ish, and then when the 3 year program on my eyes was finished, 6 months later I got ovarian cancer,. Still money in the bank for kitty treatment. Never touched unless necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there for.
Granby - 05 May 2008 19:42 GMT Not that anyone else's financial things are our business but, at least around here, the places where you can get reduced charges WANT business. People usually, like I do, add a bit to their bill and still save money.
We all have financial problems. Husband dies, left with more credit card than you knew, no medical insurance, house not paid for etc.. The one thing I know is what my Grandma said "there is no getting around hardships, all you can do is endure them" and she was right.
>> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the >> rest of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Still money in the bank for kitty treatment. Never touched unless > necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there for. Matthew - 05 May 2008 20:19 GMT You know I had made a long nasty email in retaliation to this but I erased it for I don't care what you assume about me. If you did not take the time to read the other response and make your assumption than it is not worth it. If you got crossed about it that is your fault for not taking the time and reading the response post
But I will be nice here in this one but Don't ever questions that I won't do anything I can to take care of my family. I have worked harder and longer than most will ever know to make sure they were taken care of. I have sacrificed everything I could and would do it over again to make sure they are taken care of.
One Christina what you remembering you are also forgetting a lot to the story. I had to sell my "EMPIRE " of stores ( 3) at a major loss due to the divorce; even with my prenup the laws are still in favor of the wife in Florida. I lost 80% of the profit I was to get upon selling the stores and house. The market slumped so the house market was bad than so the house sold for a 1/4 of what it was worth. I live on what I have in the bank off the interest. So I am budget. Yes I can afford to take the money out and run up my credit cards with out thinking about it but it effects me in the long run making the money short in the budget. The permits were finalized this past Christmas but the stores were already gone. 2 Christmas ago the divorce was finalized but the proceeding were going on the year before so this is 3 years total this has been going on. A lot has happening in those 3 years the money and glory days are gone. I stand a defeated man left to make sure his mother and his furballs are taken care of. I hope you are happy that I admitted this but it feels good to get off my chest. If I had all this money you assume I have I would have been helping out those who need the help in the group
I took one cruise that I saved up for over a year to take. It was a discounted cruise in the off season so it was cheap. It was $400 for everything that was the excursion, gratuities, food anything and everything that had to do with it. Think abut that $400 divided by 16 that is 25 a month. IF that was a lot of money since you are making out that I did the grand adventures Cruises I hate to see you idea of grand jour.
I am planning to take another one or do something when the group gets together to plan out the RPCA adventure. I am saving my pennies for that one. I have a fund set up for the cats but it will be hurting once I take Rumble in for the curve and Phantom in for his blood work to make sure his hyperthyroidism it leveling out. I was trying to keep as much money in there just in case something pops up like it did a few months ago trying to save Spirit's life when he went into respiratory failure but hey I will take it all out so the cats have no back up since it makes you "cross" just to make you happy PS THAT IS NOT EVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
Also remember In am in the US not the UK the low cost clinics here take all the money they make and donate it to local shelters. The free clinics are for people who can't afford it. I was considering the low cost clinic since I could get the all in one shots for $7 and not have to pay 35 - 45 for each shot at a vets office that profits a vet I don't know or like since my vet retired. Lets see 7 dollars a cats compared around $45 a cat times 5 that is $35 or $225. It could save me money so I could also donate to the clinic but hey Christina lets make assumptions and make some comments before you remember the whole thing. No problem
I would love for you to live where I do and off what was left over and take care of 5 cats and an elderly mom plus live with out using credit cards and make sure the money in the bank will last till both of us are dead. One of the reason I had to go back to work to make sure money was there for the small stuff and anything extra goes into the cat fund. If it gets any worse I will have to go back full time two jobs and I don't know If I can do that in my current health condition. I should have never sold my business but hey since they bought them only one store is open they failed since the economy here died so I at least saved myself from utter failure
Need anymore explanations so you don't become " cross " again
>> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the >> rest of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Still money in the bank for kitty treatment. Never touched unless > necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there for. Christina Websell - 05 May 2008 21:08 GMT > You know I had made a long nasty email in retaliation to this but I > erased it for I don't care what you assume about me. If you did not take [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] > > Need anymore explanations so you don't become " cross " again No. I feel awful. I should keep my mouth shut, I have enough to put up with myself
Matthew - 05 May 2008 21:21 GMT "Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk>
Christina I don't want to fight . I care for everyone out here on the group that includes you.
I just want to make clear to everyone That I would do anything to protect, take care of my family and the furballs just like I know you and everyone else would
Normin - 05 May 2008 21:35 GMT >> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to >> eat for the rest of your life, pay medical and all the other [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > unless necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there > for. You know, life hands us all burdens that we must bear, and we make our own 'luck' much of the time. Matthew was smart enough with his money to make sure that he (and his mother, and various cats in his care) will be provided for in the future. That is a good thing, and it's sad that anyone would resent him for having more than they do. He earned those cruises, and the right to decide how he wants to spend his money just like the rest of us did... Good on him to try to save a buck any way he can, so he can enjoy the fruits of his labor and good judgement for many many years to come. At least he's not on the public dole and/or counting the days when Uncle Sam will have to take care of him. (Plus it seems to me that I've read more than once where he's donated money, goods, and/or services to local animal shelters and other animal causes? I think he's entitled to take advantage of the lower cost animal clinics if he has the time and patience to take his cats there)
Sara
Granby - 05 May 2008 22:54 GMT As my sister/friend , who some folks would say can make a penny squeal, "You save where you can so you can spend where you want." Since being on my own again, this has been very good advice.
>>> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the >>> rest of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Sara Stormmee - 08 May 2008 10:44 GMT *stands up and proudly takes credit for this saying* Lee, I love saving a penny
> As my sister/friend , who some folks would say can make a penny squeal, "You > save where you can so you can spend where you want." Since being on my own [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > > > Sara Christina Websell - 06 May 2008 22:37 GMT >>> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to >>> eat for the rest of your life, pay medical and all the other [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Sara Maybe I've misunderstood, perhaps a low-cost clinic means something different over the pond. Here it means you don't have enough money to pay full-cost vets, they are paid for by charity and I take a dim view of someone who takes a cruise and does not leave enough in the bank for his possible vet bills. Flame me, I don't care. tbh. Even when I was really ill and lost my income there was always something tucked away for KFC & Boyfie if they should need it.
Kyla =^. .^= - 08 May 2008 05:28 GMT Oh dear Gramby, I am so sorry to hear about your health issues:( I hope your cancer is in remission and you are in my prayers. You are such a sweetheart, and we'd hate to lose you. Which cat is KFC? Is he/she okay? Love you, PUUUUUURS Kyla
>>> "Granby" >>>> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>> unless necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there >>> for. Granby - 08 May 2008 20:52 GMT Darlin' you got me catfused with someone else. Thank God I don't have cancer issues. For my age am in real good health, no medication of any kind, for the moment. One bad thing I have is about 15 pounds too much weight and a bad wrist.
> Oh dear Gramby, I am so sorry to hear about your health issues:( > I hope your cancer is in remission and you are in my prayers. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>>> unless necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there >>>> for. Sherry - 09 May 2008 06:06 GMT On May 6, 4:37 pm, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to > >>> eat for the rest of your life, pay medical and all the other [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Christina, it may be very different from what you're familiar with in England. Our vets do "vaccination clinics" every spring. They offer the vaccinations at their cost for the serum. They sometimes have these clinics at a public place, like City Hall or sometimes one of their offices, always on a Saturday when they're closed. The object, I believe, for the clinics is to raise awareness of the rabies problem which is highest in spring. Rabies shots are only $5. But they'll also vaccinate/test for feluek and other cat/dog diseases. The purpose is to get folks who might normally not have their animals vaccinated, but anyone is welcome. It is not in any way subsidized by government. It is not for low income folks, and there are no qualifications. The vets are just donating their time and selling the vax at their cost. It's a good deal for them too; they get new clients out of the deal usually. It's the same meds, administered by a local, licensed vet. And saving $200 on the deal is something to think about. That's a substantial amount of money that could be used on an unexpected illness later on. I'm becoming less and less convinced that my cats need yearly vaccinations anyway. Yoda hasn't been vaccinated for 7-8 years since the last one almost killed him. My daughter's Maine Coon is dying from vaccinatiion-site sarcoma.
Sherry
Sherry
polonca12000 - 10 May 2008 22:26 GMT <snip> Yoda hasn't been
> vaccinated for 7-8 years since the last one almost killed him. My > daughter's Maine Coon is dying from > vaccinatiion-site sarcoma. > > Sherry I'm so very sorry to hear that. Lots and lots of purrs and hugs, Polonca and Soncek
Matthew - 10 May 2008 22:29 GMT "Sherry" <sriddles@aol.com> Christina, it may be very different from what you're familiar with in England. Our vets do "vaccination clinics" every spring. They offer the vaccinations at their cost for the serum. They sometimes have these clinics at a public place, like City Hall or sometimes one of their offices, always on a Saturday when they're closed. The object, I believe, for the clinics is to raise awareness of the rabies problem which is highest in spring. Rabies shots are only $5. But they'll also vaccinate/test for feluek and other cat/dog diseases. The purpose is to get folks who might normally not have their animals vaccinated, but anyone is welcome. It is not in any way subsidized by government. It is not for low income folks, and there are no qualifications. The vets are just donating their time and selling the vax at their cost. It's a good deal for them too; they get new clients out of the deal usually. It's the same meds, administered by a local, licensed vet. And saving $200 on the deal is something to think about. That's a substantial amount of money that could be used on an unexpected illness later on. I'm becoming less and less convinced that my cats need yearly vaccinations anyway. Yoda hasn't been vaccinated for 7-8 years since the last one almost killed him. My daughter's Maine Coon is dying from vaccinatiion-site sarcoma.
Sherry
I am sorry sherry
Stormmee - 06 May 2008 11:33 GMT tweed,
I think you are cross because you are confusing don't have with trying to conserve, if you remember it was One cruise just after he sold the stores, and I also remember a divorce, those in the state he lives cost the partner who earned more way out of portions... don't get me wrong, even if he had twice what he does, he is now basically on a fixed income, and if he can go to the clinic and save some on regular expenses there will be more there for an emergency... and something else, here in the states the low cost clinics are for people who can't afford the vet that is true... but they also serve two other purposes...they try and convince people who won't spend to get the shots and general care, and also I am not sure about anywhere else but in my state they use them as adoption/fund raisers... you are taking your pet for these shots, and look there is a row of kittens up for adoption.... and as you pay there is a poster board of the local average prices, so of course, you give twice what they charge and are still ahead, ... I hope in my tired confused state, that this makes some sense to you... provided you ever see it... am having loads of trouble getting on line... for the third day in a row... let me know if this made sense or not, Lee
> > Besides that, selling something at an earlier and having to eat for the > > rest of your life, pay medical and all the other things necessary to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Still money in the bank for kitty treatment. Never touched unless > necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there for. Christina Websell - 07 May 2008 21:52 GMT > tweed, > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] >> Still money in the bank for kitty treatment. Never touched unless >> necessary, KFC is using it now, that's what it's there for. Christina Websell - 07 May 2008 22:23 GMT > tweed, > > I think you are cross because you are confusing don't have with trying to > conserve, I would like to conserve myself since I was unable to work full time since 2001 since nearly losing my sight and then getting ovarian ca. I do not sit in a low cost clinic for my cats.
> if you remember it was One cruise just after he sold the stores, > and I also remember a divorce I seem to remember there was a pre-nup. For god's sake, I live on a small wage now because I have to get home before it's dark. I would love to live on what Matthew claims to have had.
Granby - 07 May 2008 22:33 GMT This is going in circles and won't change. That is really too bad for all of us.
>> tweed, >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > wage now because I have to get home before it's dark. I would love to > live on what Matthew claims to have had. Matthew - 07 May 2008 22:44 GMT I think this needs to stop. Two different countries two way different worlds. This is going nowhere there are going to be some harsh words said and or hurt feelings are going to come out here soon. I don't want that. I bared enough of my soul If that was not enough well there is no changing anything else that will be said.
>> tweed, >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > wage now because I have to get home before it's dark. I would love to > live on what Matthew claims to have had. Granby - 08 May 2008 01:27 GMT You are definitely right.
>I think this needs to stop. Two different countries two way different >worlds. This is going nowhere there are going to be some harsh words said [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> small wage now because I have to get home before it's dark. I would love >> to live on what Matthew claims to have had. Kyla =^. .^= - 08 May 2008 06:09 GMT I feel bad because of all the suffering of hoomins and my cats are mad because I spend too much time on the computer and all sorts of crap is happening in my life right now, and I just can't deal with things ATM Sorry Hug Kyla
"Matthew"
>I think this needs to stop. Two different countries two way different >worlds. This is going nowhere there are going to be some harsh words said [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> small wage now because I have to get home before it's dark. I would love >> to live on what Matthew claims to have had. Stormmee - 08 May 2008 11:01 GMT agreed, I am sorry if I made it worse I was trying to help, Lee
> I think this needs to stop. Two different countries two way different > worlds. This is going nowhere there are going to be some harsh words said [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > wage now because I have to get home before it's dark. I would love to > > live on what Matthew claims to have had. bastXXXette@sonic.net - 08 May 2008 01:53 GMT > I seem to remember there was a pre-nup. For god's sake, I live on a small > wage now because I have to get home before it's dark. I would love to live > on what Matthew claims to have had. Let me ask you, Christina, what do you get out of judging other people's personal choices? This is not a sarcastic or snide question. I'm genuinely baffled by this.
I've been reading this thread, and up to now, staying out of it, but at this point, I'm really just wondering. There are a lot of people here (and elsewhere) who make choices that I would never make. But if their choices don't affect me, I can rarely work up enough interest to have an opinion about it. So it's hard for me to understand why Matthew's choice of vet clinic, or what his marriage and divorce arrangements were, should matter to anyone but him.
I guess the exception would be if he was harming his cats - then I would have an opinion, and not a very positive one. But I can't imagine Matthew ever hurting a cat, so that point is moot.
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hopitus - 11 May 2008 00:37 GMT > Let me ask you, Christina, what do you get out of judging other > people's personal choices? This is not a sarcastic or snide question. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Matthew ever hurting a cat, so that point is moot. > Joyce LONG Your post is very well-thought-out, Joyce, and your last sentence in 2nd paragraph is also my thought. Matt is right, we can get a lot of strange ideas from one side of "the pond" to the other. So, let's not argue pet facilities on *either* side and their costs. Tweed said she felt "awful". I'd take that as an apology, myself. Life has handed her a "cancer" lemon, and with one of those, you *don't* "make lemonade". Both as a hospital worker and as personal family experience, I've seen what the Big C can do to people and I am talking their *heads*, not where it is on/in their bodies. And "cross" don't begin to describe it. My relative and different friends whom it claimed lashed out at times FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN WE WERE NOT GOING TO DIE SOON LIKE THEM. You may have read or heard of the 4 stages of facing your imminent death...hey, I can tell you that some of us never get beyond stage 1 (denial). or stage 2 (anger). AFAIC Tweed may have further "cross" posts, and because of my personal background, I think nothing of them, but those of you w/thinner skins, talk about "cross" when you deal w/a cancer "lemon" to make lemonade out of. (nasty laugh). I get riled when reading someone's post re having no $ for whatever whenever my very good memory recalls - and can almost instantly refind - posts where they join a thread and boast their ownership of valuable items or inheritance, or something expensive they bought recently....and they're posting from a lightning-fast cable or DSL ISP, the most expensive setup you can use.In the south, we call that "poormouth talk" Here's one for ya, Joyce.... why the "need for speed" ISP from someone who no longer works and has lotsa time to loiter here on our rpca? Hmmmm indeed, ROFL. Having infinite patience and not wanting to shell out cable prices anymore, I wait while the dial-up goes through its noisy calling. Above has nada to do w/Tweed OR Matt...you know who you are, LOL. What you post here as is oft repeated here is up for anyone to read/ remember. Make nice and make up, Tweed. Matt is trying to....
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 11 May 2008 00:52 GMT > I get riled when reading someone's post re having no $ for whatever > whenever my very good memory recalls - and can almost instantly refind [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > for ya, Joyce.... why the "need for speed" ISP from someone who no longer > works and has lotsa time to loiter here on our rpca? But what's it to ya? Seriously. Why do you care if someone you don't even know is choosing to spend their limited money on DSL or whatever? I don't know if it's a smart or stupid choice, but the point is, it's *their* choice.
> Hmmmm indeed, ROFL. Having infinite patience and not wanting to shell > out cable prices anymore, I wait while the dial-up goes through its noisy > calling. But that's *you*. You made that choice because that's what makes sense to you. That doesn't means someone else wants to make the same choice as you. As long as there's no harm done, who cares?
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hopitus - 11 May 2008 03:59 GMT On May 10, 5:52 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
> > I get riled when reading someone's post re having no $ for whatever > > whenever my very good memory recalls - and can almost instantly refind [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > As long as there's no harm done, who cares > Joyce Uh uh. You didn't get it. Point was not the ISP or why they chose it. You misunderstood, but it's okay. I "care" when lack of $ for vet care for their sick cat(s) is brought to our attention after posts elsewhere detailing valuable stuff they've stashed away. This translates to "lying hypocrite" where I come from, and my point was, "how stupid do you think I am?" if people will not raid their assets to care for their pets bothers the hell out of me....bottom line: after *they told us* about said assets.
Matthew - 11 May 2008 09:00 GMT > On May 10, 5:52 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: >> > I get riled when reading someone's post re having no $ for whatever [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > the hell > out of me....bottom line: after *they told us* about said assets. I am lost here is this an insult or I told you so or something else.
I think you are talking about people who luxuries in life and will not get up having a drink or a cigar to take care of their pets. I hope you are not talking about me ;-)
FYI just because I am roadrunner client does not mean broad band I am down to DSL lite I feel the need but being old I might cause myself a heart attack along the way ;-).
FOR the record I will gladly go into debut and loss everything to care for my furballs. I would even sell my mother If someone would give me more than a nickel for her. ;-)
Adrian - 11 May 2008 10:42 GMT > FOR the record I will gladly go into debut and loss everything to > care for my furballs. I would even sell my mother If someone would > give me more than a nickel for her. ;-) I bid a dime. ;-)
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hopitus - 11 May 2008 18:28 GMT > > FOR the record I will gladly go into debut and loss everything to > > care for my furballs. I would even sell my mother If someone would > > give me more than a nickel for her. ;-)
> I bid a dime. ;-) > Adrian (Owned by Snoopy, Bagheera & Shadow) > Cats leave pawprints on your hearthttp://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk If you weren't across the pond I would grab my golf 'brella and come beat you up, LOL.
hopitus - 11 May 2008 18:01 GMT > >> But what's it to ya? Seriously. Why do you care if someone you don't even > >> know is choosing to spend their limited money on DSL or whatever? I don't [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >> As long as there's no harm done, who cares > >> Joyce
> > Uh uh. You didn't get it. Point was not the ISP or why they chose it. > > You [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > my furballs. I would even sell my mother If someone would give me more than > a nickel for her. ;-) Matt, lemme know how much you Mom brings and I'll consider setting myself up on the market, LOL. I *thought* I posted a coupla posts ago that the current ones had nothing to do w/either you nor Tweed. Neither of you has blasted your asset possession here and then whined poormouth, which would be funny if it didn't happen so often, IMHO. BTW I have no idea what a roadrunner is except the bird that cat is always chasing that goes, "beep beep". (????). Love ya, Matt. Other folks vent here about stuff not even related to cats. At least mine is related to ability to care for them.
Matthew - 11 May 2008 18:56 GMT >> >> But what's it to ya? Seriously. Why do you care if someone you don't >> >> even [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > mine is related > to ability to care for them. That was what I was wondering sometimes when you post they seem as if they are from across the pond. :-)
Also for everyone I am not mad at Tweed at all
hopitus - 11 May 2008 19:08 GMT I* I posted a coupla posts ago that the
> > current ones > > had nothing to do w/either you nor Tweed. Neither of you has blasted [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > are from across the pond. :-) > Also for everyone I am not mad at Tweed at all I knew that. I think Tweed does, too. But if my posts sometimes seem as you say "????" what is the deal with the "beep, beep" roadrunner stuff? "????" Googling it only brings up what I know, "beep, beep" bird chased by determined cat....
tanadashoes - 11 May 2008 19:11 GMT > I* I posted a coupla posts ago that the >> > current ones [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > I know, > "beep, beep" bird chased by determined cat.... Road Runner is the trademark name for DSL produced by Time Warner Cable. They're really good at offering one rate and charging a higher one, at least in this area of the woods. My MIL uses Comcast which is produced by Dish TV, the satellite company.
Pam S. who uses Earthlink DSL
hopitus - 11 May 2008 20:57 GMT > > I* I posted a coupla posts ago that the > >> > current ones [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Pam S. who uses Earthlink DSL Never would have figured that out. As I said, no logic to much of what goes on today. As why a cable co. would call itself after a silly bird that can't be destroyed even when the cat chases him over a cliff. Maybe that's their point? LOL>
John F. Eldredge - 11 May 2008 23:49 GMT >> > I* I posted a coupla posts ago that the >> >> > current ones [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > even when the cat chases him over a cliff. Maybe that's their point? > LOL> I have never seen any Roadrunner cartoons in which the roadrunner was being chased by a cat. It was always being chased by Wile E. Coyote. We know the coyote's name because we sometimes were shown his hole with a signpost next to it. Also, the coyote was the only one who actually fell off the cliffs. In at least one episode, both animals ran off the edge of a cliff, and stood temporarily on thin air. The coyote looked down, got a despairing expression, and help up a sign saying "It isn't fair.", then fell. The roadrunner then held up a sign saying, "No, it isn't", but didn't fall.
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hopitus - 12 May 2008 02:01 GMT > >> "hopitus" <hopi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better > than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria Thanks, John, I had forgotten Wile E. Coyote completely! Now that I live uut here where real coyotes roam the 'burbs and eat small pets he should have come to mind, but remember II'm from sourht FL where once in awhile 'gators do exactly the same thing. No coyotes there. Imagine my amazement to find roadrunner is a cable co.
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 11 May 2008 09:36 GMT > Point was not the ISP or why they chose it. You > misunderstood, but it's okay. I "care" when lack of $ for vet care for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > pets bothers the hell out of me....bottom line: after *they told us* > about said assets. Well, I guess that just makes them *bad* liars, doesn't it? :) If one is going to lie, one needs to keep track of what one has said previously. :)
I'm not sure which post you're talking about so I can't comment on it. But if someone is letting their cat get sick because they claim they can't afford vet care, when in fact they have all this money for other stuff - yeah, that would bother me. The key phrase to me is, "if no harm is done", then why does it matter. But if harm is being done, then yeah, I agree with you.
However, I don't think that's true of Matthew, because he did take his kitties to the vet for their shots and so forth. I don't think he would ever let his furballs get sick and not do anything.
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Sherry - 11 May 2008 18:13 GMT On May 11, 3:36 am, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
> > Point was not the ISP or why they chose it. You > > misunderstood, but it's okay. I "care" when lack of $ for vet care for [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > -- > Joyce I can't recall offhand which posts this is in reference to either, but I am way familiar with that mindset. I bet I've seen hundreds of people bringing sick cats/dogs to the shelter, with the "I can't afford....." excuse. Then you look at the professional acrylic fingernail job, the name brand clothing, the Louis Vitton bag, and the 2008 SUV they drove up in. Nah. You can't help notice those things. Then there are people who *are* in dire straits, heartbroken because of their beloved pet's illness. We *do* help people w/vet bills, and usually try to talk the vet into a good discount for them. Long story, but one thing I learned standing behind the counter at the H.S. is, many times "I can't afford"....really translates into, "I don't want to afford." My BFF Nancy is much nicer than me, and she snaps me back into reality sometimes with "Well, maybe someone brought her. Maybe it's not her car." or "So what. We are going to help her anyway. We're in the business of alleviating suffering in animals, no matter if they have irresponsible owners. It's the animal that we are about."
Sherry
Lesley - 11 May 2008 18:38 GMT > "So what. We are going to help her anyway. We're in the business of > alleviating > suffering in animals, no matter if they have irresponsible owners. > It's the animal that we are about." Good point these people could pay a vet but if they won't then what can you do but help the animal?
There's a mildly amusing book called "Pet Hates" about the reality of being a vet and the writer says one thing that never fails to amaze him is the people who turn up with their puppy in a flash car, the puppy with distemper only surviving because the vet stayed up all night to keep getting fluid into the puppy and then they make a scene about the bill and question every item but the old lady on limited income whose dog he PTS inevitably is the one who sends him a box of chocolates and a nice card thanking him for easing her dog gently out of this life
Lesley
Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
hopitus - 11 May 2008 18:44 GMT > On May 11, 3:36 am, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > Sherry Thank you, my tasteful friend who is so much better at framing thoughts into words than I am.
Matthew - 03 May 2008 02:42 GMT > >> What is an old man to do? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > "Store empire"? Matthew has a store empire? I'm not even sure what that > means, but it sounds very impressive. :) I had 3 stores one a dollar store two retail like Wal-Mart style sold both of them back awhile ago
> I thought Matthew was a retired cop. But lord knows I could certainly > be remembering wrong myself. I wish than I would have one heck of a cookie jar I would have been like Vic Mackey
I have several degrees one was in criminology; serial crimes investigation, one in business management
I always wanted to be a cop wanted to go FBI. but that involved the military I have migraine headaches and it disqualified me for both of them
:-(
> Hey, I have an idea. Let's start a thread guessing what Matthew's line > of work was. :) (Kidding!) Matthew - 03 May 2008 02:35 GMT >> Three it is time for all the furballs vaccinations updates and I am >> trying to figure out where to take them and do I want them to be stressed [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Tweed > or did I remember it wrong? Yes Christina that was true but remember the big "Divorce" and there was a settlement required after the stores sold even with the prenup. So my nice piece of the pie shrunk big time. So letting my 3 stores go was a big mistake than but if I would have kept them the economy would have shut at least two of them down due to competition such as Wal-Mart and other chains with cost of everything going up. I put all my money into making sure I would not have to worry about bills during retirement such as long term care etc mom is no spring chicken
. IF I am careful we would make it but with the economy going to sh@t I have taken a part time job to bring in cash and to get out of the house; to do be able to do little things so money is not tight yet but if gas keeps going up my truck is going to be parked and I will be driving mom's fusion. The pet fund I set up was drained a little with phantom sickness. I am trying not to touch that since Phantom will have to go back in for a full blood panel to make sure his pills are keeping his hyperthyroidism correct and Rumble is going to be due for his Diabetic curve
I am going to search for a vet place that does it so the cats can stay out of the heat and not be stressed. It will be worth the gas If I can find one.
I can easily put it on a credit card but I am trying not to use them unless absolutely necessary. So my "empire" dissolved like all of them do in time. Now just trying to make sure the pack is healthy
hopitus - 03 May 2008 19:38 GMT On May 2, 6:58 pm, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Matthew" <Iamacatsl...@proudtoserve.com> wrote in message > > Three it is time for all the furballs vaccinations updates and I am trying [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > little at odds. > > What is an old man to do?
> Not to sit at a low cost clinic when you know can afford full price through > selling your store empire is my first thought to be honest. > Tweed > or did I remember it wrong? As I used to say much more often as it really amused me one is able to be whatever and/or whomever one wishes to be....on the Internet. Tweed, you know how men of all ages proclaim their successes at 'whatever" - goes way back to caveman days, I think (men, you stop reading this NOW) and we don't really understand this indwelling need in them but tolerate it as some sort of means of proclaiming the ability to protect and nurture their own. I have good memory for someone my age and I recall Matt used to be "NMR" or "no more retail' long ago here on rpca. As he posts, he *may* have desired an empire of retail success but if he had one now I doubt he'd be on here telling us of his troubles, and especially of the ways I know so well, the backward outlook of local politicians toward no-kill shelter extintion where he lives now. No one could question Matt's love and concern for furballs, IMHO. To make it as short as it oughta be, you have no idea how bad $ problems have got how quickly lately for the average citizen here to live. And I *am* talking choosing between food and medicine on ony given month.
Matthew - 04 May 2008 06:38 GMT On May 2, 6:58 pm, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Matthew" <Iamacatsl...@proudtoserve.com> wrote in message > > Three it is time for all the furballs vaccinations updates and I am [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > little at odds. > > What is an old man to do?
> Not to sit at a low cost clinic when you know can afford full price > through > selling your store empire is my first thought to be honest. > Tweed > or did I remember it wrong? As I used to say much more often as it really amused me one is able to be whatever and/or whomever one wishes to be....on the Internet. Tweed, you know how men of all ages proclaim their successes at 'whatever" - goes way back to caveman days, I think (men, you stop reading this NOW) and we don't really understand this indwelling need in them but tolerate it as some sort of means of proclaiming the ability to protect and nurture their own. I have good memory for someone my age and I recall Matt used to be "NMR" or "no more retail' long ago here on rpca. As he posts, he *may* have desired an empire of retail success but if he had one now I doubt he'd be on here telling us of his troubles, and especially of the ways I know so well, the backward outlook of local politicians toward no-kill shelter extintion where he lives now. No one could question Matt's love and concern for furballs, IMHO. To make it as short as it oughta be, you have no idea how bad $ problems have got how quickly lately for the average citizen here to live. And I *am* talking choosing between food and medicine on ony given month.
AMEN. But I did have a nice chunk of the pie till the Big D and I had to share it even though she had nothing to do with the business but that is how it goes
Also good memory don't forget Matthew AKA NMR among a few others
Kyla =^. .^= - 04 May 2008 07:08 GMT "Matthew" >
> "hopitus" < > On May 2, 6:58 pm, "Christina Websell" [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > Also good memory don't forget Matthew AKA NMR among a few others Hi Matthew, nice to see you again PUUUUURS Kyla
Stormmee - 04 May 2008 08:34 GMT you know it doesn't really matter how much one has, if you are not conservative where you can be it won't last long anyway, Lee On May 2, 6:58 pm, "Christina Websell" <spamf...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "Matthew" <Iamacatsl...@proudtoserve.com> wrote in message > > Three it is time for all the furballs vaccinations updates and I am trying [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > little at odds. > > What is an old man to do?
> Not to sit at a low cost clinic when you know can afford full price through > selling your store empire is my first thought to be honest. > Tweed > or did I remember it wrong? As I used to say much more often as it really amused me one is able to be whatever and/or whomever one wishes to be....on the Internet. Tweed, you know how men of all ages proclaim their successes at 'whatever" - goes way back to caveman days, I think (men, you stop reading this NOW) and we don't really understand this indwelling need in them but tolerate it as some sort of means of proclaiming the ability to protect and nurture their own. I have good memory for someone my age and I recall Matt used to be "NMR" or "no more retail' long ago here on rpca. As he posts, he *may* have desired an empire of retail success but if he had one now I doubt he'd be on here telling us of his troubles, and especially of the ways I know so well, the backward outlook of local politicians toward no-kill shelter extintion where he lives now. No one could question Matt's love and concern for furballs, IMHO. To make it as short as it oughta be, you have no idea how bad $ problems have got how quickly lately for the average citizen here to live. And I *am* talking choosing between food and medicine on ony given month.
Lesley - 04 May 2008 18:17 GMT you have no idea how bad $ problems have got
> how > quickly lately for the average citizen here to live. And I *am* > talking choosing > between food and medicine on ony given month. It's getting the same over here. The government say inflation is runnin at 2.45% but their own retail price index says 4.75 and rising...
And it's worse than that because okay, tube fares, TV licences, water rates etc go up every year and what can you do but sigh? (or as I did with the council tax persuade Dave to set a standing order from his bank account) but food has been pretty stable until recently. Over the road from us there is a little sandwich bar, it's not that good but occasionally I use it for something to take to work if I am running late- in other words I use it quite a lot-well you're about to head for the door and Sarsi throws a toy at you and makes it clear she wants to be played with- what can you do? And their prices have hardly changed more than a few pence in the last couple of years but last week they put everything up twenty pence..last week our local off licence slapped another 50 pence on a 6-pack of beer and the pub prices have risen twenty pence since Xmas- these are major expenses for us!
This morning I was really ravenous and wanted something fast and filling so we decided on pasta. The pack of fusili was 76 pence, last time I brought one which as we are both major consumers of pasta was not that long ago, the same pack was 62 pence. The brand of bread we both really like has recently gone up fifty pence a loaf, Wet cat food is also up as in the last few weeks I've noticed are mouthwash, low fat spread, eggs (Good move Tweed!), potatoes, baked beans and come to think of it mushrooms. We are not talking luxury foodstuffs here but the everyday basics everyone has to buy
I don't earn bad money but I have considered asking the Furballs to go and catch their own meals....then again I would be so worried if they were outside any savings on the cat food bill would be offset by increased spending on the alcohol bill.
Worse if you're on a fixed income my friend John is now 200 pounds a year worse off due to abolition of the ten percent tax band and whilst he can afford it because his fixed income is very good he wonders how people on less money can manage
Lesley
Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Jo Firey - 03 May 2008 02:25 GMT > One My vet has retired it is good for him since he has been my vet for > over 24 years and has done wonders to help the community. He saved so [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > What is an old man to do? First, be very early for the vaccination clinic. They need your money more than the vet anyway. But do consider not getting anyone more than one shot a week.
Second. Stay away from Bengal's unless you are able to devote yourself very much to their care and feeding. They can be extremely demanding. However, they are a case of two are better than one since they will keep each other occupied. If they are adults you might be able to find what diet they are on and how well they handle it. My friend's girl Bengal barfs up anything but raw. (BTW, just because you clowder doesn't care for people food doesn't mean they wouldn't love raw. Its usually ground up whole chickens plus supplements)
Exotics can be rough on the vet costs as well.
Jo
Matthew - 03 May 2008 02:55 GMT >> One My vet has retired it is good for him since he has been my vet for >> over 24 years and has done wonders to help the community. He saved so [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > more than the vet anyway. But do consider not getting anyone more than > one shot a week. It is not about the money I can spend it if I have to but I rather it go to a worthy cause than a vet that I don't know pocket.
Good advice but the clinics come about every 4 to 6 months. I am going to seach the sunday paper for them in differnet locations. I can travel with one or two cats a week
> Second. Stay away from Bengal's unless you are able to devote yourself > very much to their care and feeding. They can be extremely demanding. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jo I have tried raw with them 3 of them want nothing to do with anything human raw or other wise. Having the stores I could have maintained chicken with no problem so I tried 3 of them wanted nothing to do with it. Rumble would eat it but barfed it up as soon as he ate it.
This is what I was worried about. The only reason I was thinking of them was I could adopt them for free. They are a year old but I don't want any more problems that I can avoid for the pack
Stormmee - 03 May 2008 09:03 GMT I will bring you a wonderful cat if you like, she needs a man for her main human, or I can bring you one you share a name with, he is a complete lap fungus, I would probably go with the clinic if I could go early enough, Lee
> One My vet has retired it is good for him since he has been my vet for > over 24 years and has done wonders to help the community. He saved so many [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > What is an old man to do? Granby - 03 May 2008 21:01 GMT I have done the clinic thing before. I always add a few extra bucks at the end and still saved a bunch.
>I will bring you a wonderful cat if you like, she needs a man for her main > human, or I can bring you one you share a name with, he is a complete lap [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> >> What is an old man to do?
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