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I almost lost Oscar!! (long)
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~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 24 Apr 2008 15:48 GMT I had a horrendous two days here. On Tuesday afternoon, after doing yard work, I started to have chest pains. They got so bad that I passed out. I didn't want to call 911, so I tried to drive myself to the hospital. I never made it out of the driveway. I used my cell phone and called 911. Prior to this, I had the cats out in the garage and the screened porch. I thought I got them all inside (right when the pain started). I ended up spending the night in the hospital for some tests. They couldn't find anything wrong with my heart, but I have had pluracy in the past, so they think the pain could be from that. I was released yesterday afternoon. When I got home, I started to do a head count b/c I had a friend and my maintenance man stop by to let the dogs out. My worst fear came true. Oscar was gone. (He's my little runt Siamese... and my favorite). I wasn't feeling good, but I immediately cased the neighborhood calling out to him... and crying the whole way. I then got in my car and drove two blocks out to a busier road. I literally felt like I was in slow motion b/c I was so sick w/worry. About 3 hours later, I was standing on the driveway talking to my girlfriend on the phone. I was in tears!! Then I thought I hear a Siamese yowl. I stayed quiet... but heard nothing more, so I thought I was hearing things. Stated talking to my friend again... and then I heard a mew. I wasn't quite sure of what I heard, b/c Oscar doesn't mew. Then I heard it again. It was coming from under my front deck. I walked to the side of it, called to Oscar... and then, I saw one tiny brown paw!! I threw the phone down in the grass and called to Oskee again. Slowly, I saw two paws, and then a nose with cobwebs all over the whiskers!! Finally, Oskee's head popped out. He mewed and mewed!! I scooped him up crying!! I immediately felt all over him for cuts and bumps. He was all in one piece!!! I can't tell y'all the relief I had!! I picked the phone up and my girlfriend was crying too. So, that was my Tuesday and Wednesday. Two days from HELL!! And Oscar is just fine. He's a little needy, and is attached to my hip and lap!! I've never been so thankful to God in my life!!!
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Matthew - 24 Apr 2008 16:23 GMT I am glad everyone is alright
I have recommended in the past to all the members that you carry a medical alert card and also a animal alert card so the rescue workers can call whoever you have on your list and activate them in a time of emergency
On mine I have ATTENTION CAT OWNER IF I AM IN A MEDICAL EMERGENCY CALL SUCH AND SUCH IF UNAVAILABLE CALL MY VET AT
>I had a horrendous two days here. On Tuesday afternoon, after doing yard >work, I started to have chest pains. They got so bad that I passed out. I [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > And Oscar is just fine. He's a little needy, and is attached to my hip > and lap!! I've never been so thankful to God in my life!!! Joy - 24 Apr 2008 19:31 GMT >>I had a horrendous two days here. I'm so glad Oscar turned up and is all right!
About that chest pain - since the doctors didn't find a heart problem, you might want to see a gastroenterologist. I went to Emergency two or three times with chest pain, and they couldn't find anything wrong. Finally my gastroenterologist said it was most likely esophageal spasms. The symptoms are exactly the same as a heart attack. The pain went up into my jaw and down my arm.
The doctor said that nitro will help with the spasms, but since nitro gives you a horrible headache whenever you take it, he prescribed hyoscamine. It comes in small white tablets that you dissolve under your tongue just like a nitro tablet. If I take it when the pain first starts, that usually keeps it from getting too bad. If I wait too long, it may take two to get rid of the pain.
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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 24 Apr 2008 19:45 GMT > About that chest pain - since the doctors didn't find a heart problem, > you might want to see a gastroenterologist. She mentioned that she had had pleurisy when she was younger, and the doctor said that the pains are most likely from that. I'm not even sure what pleurisy is - is it a lung disease?
In any case, it's scary to think there are other conditions that give the same symptoms of a heart attack - I'd be freaked out. Oh, well - better to think it might be a heart attack and get help, than to think it's something much less harmful and *not* get help, and have it turn out to be the heart!
Off to Wikipedia to look up "pleurisy"...
... and here's what they say:
Pleurisy, also known as pleuritis, is an inflammation of the pleura, the lining of the pleural cavity surrounding the lungs, which can cause painful respiration (also called pleuritic chest pain) and other symptoms. Pleurisy can be generated by a variety of infectious and non-infectious causes. The effects of pleurisy can often be felt long after the condition has gone away.
So the doctor is probably right.
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hopitus - 24 Apr 2008 20:18 GMT On Apr 24, 12:45 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
> In any case, it's scary to think there are other conditions that give > the same symptoms of a heart attack - I'd be freaked out [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > after the condition has gone away. -- > Joyce Probably best to leave it at that...don't freak but there are bunches of things that can go wrong in your chest cavity that only vaguely involve your heart, LOL. Most of which might make heart unconfortable but on no account will make it stop. Here's an example; I actually knew two people - not at the same time frame - who suffered this and spent about a week in hospital where I worked: endocarditis - formerly know as "rheumatic fever" (don't have to look *that* one up; pericarditis - inflammation of sac in chest cavity surrounding heart and its big blood vessels (those ugly hose things you see sticking out of it everywhere) just to name 2 that yeah, could kill you. This is very complicated and only tests can reveal what your *real* problem in there might be. Impossible for us non-docs to judge whazzup with chest pain, LOL. The way they discovered I had really had a "heart attack" at work was a simple ER blood test that showed massive levels of an enzyme kinda thing that is in one's blood stream *only* and for a limited time following a "heart attack". The hoomin body is a wonderful, complicated machine so far duplicated artificially only in segments. Treat it well. and it will serve you well....
John F. Eldredge - 25 Apr 2008 01:55 GMT On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:45:46 +0000, bastXXXette wrote:
> > About that chest pain - since the doctors didn't find a heart > > problem, you might want to see a gastroenterologist. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > So the doctor is probably right. I can also say, from first-hand experience, that arthritis can cause left arm and chest pain that feels very similar to angina. Also, angina can cause pain at the shoulder and elbow that feels similar to arthritis (I had a heart attack in 1999, and didn't realize that I was feeling more than just arthritis until I started feeling pressure and aching in the center of my chest). Fortunately, my health is currently OK.
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~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 25 Apr 2008 15:21 GMT > > About that chest pain - since the doctors didn't find a heart problem, > > you might want to see a gastroenterologist. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > So the doctor is probably right. Yep... and I had six doctors looking at my case, plus all the students. I had the pleurisy last July, so it's definitely b/c of that. (I hope!)
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Jo Firey - 24 Apr 2008 21:20 GMT >>>I had a horrendous two days here. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Joy Those are wonderful little pills aren't they? Though I chew mine. Its the only medicine I actually keep in the car.
I don't take it for my esophagus, but for shall we say further down. I get horrible and rather sudden abdominal pain, and most often it happens when we are driving somewhere. Those pills stop the cramping.
So glad Oscar is fine. They seem to know how long to push it so we will actually be grateful rather than annoyed when they come in. Thought it sounds as if is this case it was Oscar who got the biggest fright.
Jo
Kyla =^. .^= - 27 Apr 2008 05:36 GMT "Jo Firey" <
> "Joy" >>> "~ *LiveLoveLaugh*~"
>>>>I had a horrendous two days here. >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Jo Wow, that is scary. Glad you're okay. Purrs headed your way from us Hug Kyla PS Jo, how's your little granddaughter? My little grandson will be 3 weeks old on Tuesday. Wish I could see him.
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 25 Apr 2008 15:19 GMT >>>I had a horrendous two days here. > > I'm so glad Oscar turned up and is all right! Thank you!! I'm still touching him and picking him up to tell him how GRATEFUL I yam!!!
> About that chest pain - since the doctors didn't find a heart problem, you > might want to see a gastroenterologist. I went to Emergency two or three > times with chest pain, and they couldn't find anything wrong. Finally my > gastroenterologist said it was most likely esophageal spasms. The > symptoms are exactly the same as a heart attack. The pain went up into my > jaw and down my arm. Well that's what I thought it was. I ate two Tums, took a Pepcid AC and poured myself a glass of milk thinking this would stop the pains. And yes, the pain was also in my neck and jaw.
> The doctor said that nitro will help with the spasms, but since nitro > gives you a horrible headache whenever you take it, he prescribed > hyoscamine. It comes in small white tablets that you dissolve under your > tongue just like a nitro tablet. If I take it when the pain first starts, > that usually keeps it from getting too bad. If I wait too long, it may > take two to get rid of the pain. Thanks, Joy. At this point, I wish it was just nasty heartburn!! I am feeling better today tho. The heaviness in my chest is finally gone!!
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> Joy Sherry - 25 Apr 2008 18:20 GMT > >>I had a horrendous two days here. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Joy Joy, you and Laurie are scaring me. I was told the same thing. For two years. Stress tests, thalium tests, EKG's, sonograms, and and I was prounounced fine. If the problem ever occurs again, demand to have a heart cath. It is the *only*, definitive test that shows exactly what's going on with the heart. With some people, the less invasive tests are just a waste of time and give false security. I would never, ever, go away satisfied with only the results of a stress test, etc. IF the symptoms keep reoccurring. Docs are hesitant to do angiograms because they carry risks of their own, and they're very expensive. But without one, I'd be dead. My cardio says, if it's not a vascular problem, nitro won't help. It's curious that yours told you the opposite. And again, I'm not trying to scare anyone. If you never had symptoms again, your doc was probably right. But if they return, please take itseriously.
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hopitus - 26 Apr 2008 18:13 GMT > > >>I had a horrendous two days here. > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Sherry I usually make long posts but trying to quit doing that. Sherry is *NOT* a "worry-wart" and she is right on target, Laurie. If you have the symptoms again after physical exertion (say, active yard work) call your doc, suggest meeting him at some hospital that has a "Cath Lab" (a heart-related center) and persuade him, forcefully if need be, to get you into that Cath Lab for an angiogram (a very unpleasant IMHO but lifesaving (!!!!) procedure.) I will spare you the details of mine and what led to my heart attack but I will tell you this - before I worked in hospitals for a living, I, like you, would yeah - associate my chest pain with former pleurisy illness. But now I know better: too long has passed since your pleurisy illness - almost a year....and second, pleurisy does NOT activate nor worsen with heavy physical exertion, it is a lung disease, not a cardiovascular disease! I also advise...the hell with what your neighbors think of ambulance picking you up, we are not discussing trivial stuff here. Both Sherry and I really would be gone if we hadn't had the only definitive medical exam that actually shows docs how your cardiac arteries are doing their thing totally successfully......or not. I had a big fat heart- feeding artery totally (95%) blocked and *that* alone - only one - will give you pain you can't ignore. Would not be telling you this if hops didn't care.
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 26 Apr 2008 21:53 GMT >> > >>I had a horrendous two days here. >> [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > pain you can't ignore. Would not be telling you this if hops didn't > care. Thanks, Hop. I still don't feel up to snuff. `Am so tired at night too. I bought over $1,000.00 worth of bushes and flowers to plant, but I'm afraid to plant them!!
`Am calling doc on Monday.
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John F. Eldredge - 26 Apr 2008 22:43 GMT >> I usually make long posts but trying to quit doing that. Sherry is >> *NOT* a [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > `Am calling doc on Monday. I would also recommend the arteriogram, based upon my own experiences. I have had one heart attack (in 1999), have had about a dozen arteriograms since them, and have six stents in me. Only the heart attack showed up in the enzyme tests, and my stress test results have been ambiguous, at best. It has taken an arteriogram each time to determine for sure whether I had a blocked artery or not (sometimes yes, sometimes no).
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hopitus - 26 Apr 2008 23:49 GMT > > "hopitus" <hopi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:66d3880d-d4de-461f-a69d- [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better > than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria LONG You are too cool, John....I only have 2 stents after 2 arteriograms (it is another name for angiogram!). You understand what I was saying in my post, no doubt. I had my only M.I. while at work in a cardiovascular specialty hospital where I worked mainly in ER...have never had a "nuclear stress test" but know very well what the results look like on paper (what the radiologist "reads") as part of my job on the swing shift was to "hang" them on viewscreens for the next a.m.'s docs. They don't approach arteriograms/angiograms for accuracy - nothing ambiguous about them. Either it's all working.....or it ain't, LOL.. If you'll pardon my bluntness, in a specialty place like I worked at, docs don't "pussyfoot" around....after that enzyme test in ER, the cardiovascular specialist doc who ran the cath lab was on his way in, and I was zoomed upstairs to be prepped for the first cath. To add to my unease, I was well aware that I was and still am allergic to the contrast medium, iodides-based. You know how unpleasant the test is but I had an advantage over your first one...I knew the personnel and totally understood exactly what was going on....even after becoming, shall we say, "drunk as a skunk"from the heavy-duty trankie you are given i.v. Thank you for reinforcing our requests to Laurie for cautious action re her chest pain. BTW, though retired, I still receive mags and radiology news re new developments lately since I quit working, and there are new CT heart scans which insurance companies are balking at paying for (they label "experimental", LOL) but are excellent at revealing much regarding diseased hearts and accompanying blood vessels nearby. The public is generally unaware of this development, but docs are highly optimistic about them.
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 27 Apr 2008 02:36 GMT > I would also recommend the arteriogram, based upon my own experiences. I > have had one heart attack (in 1999), have had about a dozen arteriograms > since them, and have six stents in me. Only the heart attack showed up > in the enzyme tests, and my stress test results have been ambiguous, at > best. It has taken an arteriogram each time to determine for sure > whether I had a blocked artery or not (sometimes yes, sometimes no). Has anyone heard of something called "Cardio Vision"? That's a brand name, and I'm not sure what the product itself is called. You wear a cuff just like one for getting blood pressure, but it's hooked up to a computer that calculates the "pulse wave" of your... um, blood flow, I guess. I'm not sure, actually. The result is something called an "ASI" (I now don't remember what that stands for), which tells you how much inflammation hormone you have in your blood. Apparently, at least according to the people who sell these machines, inflammation hormones cause more damage to the heart and vessels than cholesterol, blood sugars, and blood pressure. I'm not saying I buy this idea, I'm just wondering about it, because I got a test for this today.
I'd never heard of this before, but I decided to get it tested since someone was doing it at the local health food store. It only took 20 minutes. Unfortunately, the result made it sound like I was on death's door, so I'll be happy if people tell me this sounds like quackery. :) I thought I might ask my doctor about it anyway. She might think I'm a total fool, but it can't hurt.
My father had something like this several years ago, in a totally non- clinical situation (he had just been hired by a company that makes the machines, and they asked him to get tested just so he'd know what he was talking about when he pitched it to doctors or whomever. Anyway, the person who tested him told him to go to the doctor right away, as it had found major arterial blockages. Next thing he knew, he had to get a quintuple bypass... so I guess it's not all quackery.
It's hard to know what to believe, since so much of what we hear about regarding medicine and health has profit as a motive. If there's not a lot of money to be made on drugs or procedures for a condition, then the condition doesn't get much coverage in the media, and nobody thinks it's important. So, if someone's testing for "inflammation" in your blood, is that a crock? Or is it true, but just sounds like a crock because it doesn't make the official news?
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hopitus - 27 Apr 2008 04:15 GMT On Apr 26, 7:36 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
> > I would also recommend the arteriogram, based upon my own experiences. I > > have had one heart attack (in 1999), have had about a dozen arteriograms [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > To email me, remove the triple-X from my user name. ^..^ I never heard of this testing device but that means nothing as I was a general xray (routine, no specialty except mammography) tech and worked mainly, as I posted, in ERs. Upon researching this name-brand device and its usage, it looks like a specialized testing for vascular (arterial) *elasticity* (stiffness of artery walls) and other options limited to cardiac medicine, like blood infections (inflammation). This looks like it would be used by specialists in cardiology and/or radiology as I found it is an item in curriculum of cardiac CT/MRI at University of FL, Gainesville, which is a leading teaching hospital in FL....I have an old friend who works in their "specials" xray dept (has nothing to do with this item). Not quackery i would say, at all, just something that does not require radiology assistance/exams as a rule to accompany its use. One caution from me personally...if I were to have this exam with this device I would never have it done by someone in a health food retail atmosphere as you probably are aware, all sorts of goings-on in those localities by people who claim to be "whatever" and it is not their usage of device I consider iffy, but their *interpretation*! AFAIC docs are not gods (old hospital worker joke: "what's the difference between God and a surgeon?" Answer: God never imagined Himself as a surgeon! LOL) but a doc would be only type to diagnose my vascular system for me. Hope to have been of help, Joyce. Yeah, ask your doc about this.
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 27 Apr 2008 08:04 GMT > Not quackery i would say, at all, just something that does not > require radiology assistance/exams as a rule to accompany its [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > would be only type to diagnose my vascular system for me. Hope > to have been of help, Joyce. Yeah, ask your doc about this. Good point. I was found to have very rigid arteries and a "high" risk factor for heart attack and stroke (with the choices being low, medium, high, and already dead - OK, just kidding about the last one, but there was at least one that was worse than mine.
My blood pressure was fine. My other numbers, such as cholesterol and blood sugar, have been iffy for a few years, not quite bad enough for medication, but definitely something my doctor and I keep an eye on. I used to be quite healthy, but everything's gone to hell since menopause.
Guess I will ask her, then - thanks.
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> John F. Eldredge > > > I would also recommend the arteriogram, based upon my own experiences. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > blood, is that a crock? Or is it true, but just sounds like a crock > because it doesn't make the official news? Geez, this all sounds so scary. I can't have anything tested because I have NO freakin health insurance and can't even afford to have my blood tested to see if my thyroid is okay :/ Ho Hum Hug Kyla
> To email me, remove the triple-X from my user name. ^..^ Lorna - 27 Apr 2008 07:16 GMT Joyce - look at this internet page and see whether this is the same: http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4648
I don't know about the 'Cardio Vision' but CRP levels can be checked by a simple blood test - mine has sure scared me! "U.S. News & World Report" had a fairly lengthy report several years ago about this inflammation. You can just put "crp" into Google and find enough to scare yourself silly....... Lorna (Chessie & Nikki are smart enough to be asleep at this time)
> > I would also recommend the arteriogram, based upon my own experiences. > > I [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > blood, is that a crock? Or is it true, but just sounds like a crock > because it doesn't make the official news? bastXXXette@sonic.net - 27 Apr 2008 07:58 GMT > Joyce - look at this internet page and see whether this is the same: > http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4648
> I don't know about the 'Cardio Vision' but CRP levels can be checked by a > simple blood test - mine > has sure scared me! "U.S. News & World Report" had a fairly lengthy report > several years ago about this inflammation. You can just put "crp" into > Google and find enough to scare yourself silly....... What is CRP?
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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 27 Apr 2008 08:19 GMT > Joyce - look at this internet page and see whether this is the same: > http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4648 I think it is. And never mind my asking what CRP is, I read about it on the site you posted.
You know, I've had an elevated "sed rate" for year and years. Doctors never know what to make of it. When I've asked, they've said it was probably an "unspecified inflammation". Great, now I'm finding out this can be dangerous. I do have chronic lower back pain, so I always figured that was the cause. Also, I do have herpes simplex. Millions of people have that.
I am definitely going to ask my doc about
> I don't know about the 'Cardio Vision' but CRP levels can be checked by a > simple blood test - mine has sure scared me! The Cardio Vision machine just tests to see how flexible your arteries are. It can't tell you what's wrong, and the woman who gave me the test was right up front that she's not a medical professional, and in fact I had to sign a waiver saying that I understood that she couldn't give me a diagnosis. And she didn't try to do that. She simply gave the test as a way to inform people of their risk level.
The only thing that annoyed me about the whole thing was that at the end of it, she asked me if I had already given her money. Money? I was puzzled. Yes, she explained, the test cost $35. What? I had not seen one single mention of any charge. And I said as much to her. I was polite and pleasant about it, and apologized several times, but no way was I going to pay for something that appeared to be free of charge until the very last minute. I don't know if this was an oversight on her part, or if it was a trick to rope people in. And if it's the latter, I wonder how many people are too "nice" or intimidated to refuse to pay in that situation?
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hopitus - 27 Apr 2008 18:48 GMT On Apr 27, 1:19 am, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
> > Joyce - look at this internet page and see whether this is the same: > >http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4648 [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > I wonder how many people are too "nice" or intimidated to refuse to pay > in that situation?
> Joyce Again, hoping to be of help: "sed" rate is a common test of blood to see if someone is in a range (it is a range, not a bingo-on-the-nose "yeah, you got it" type result!) that indicates they suffer from or are likely to have arthritis! There, feel better? Now, I want you to know, if you don't - and you sound as if you don't - that there are organized groups of medical professionals *as well as* NON- professionals (which sounds like what you had doing your test) who, for about $35 a test, will "scan" and U/S and stuff which for about $150 or so - their usual "do-it-all" fee....will give you a general idea of your general health. They usually herald their appearance locally in shopping centers OR motel/ hotel meeting rooms (where they do the tests, not "herald" their arrival) by sending out fliers or mass mailings to residents wanting to know their current results of this or that test. Working in a hospital, I never had any interest personally as I could get just about anything except the most expensive and/or dangerous tests done for nothing at others' convenience. Beware of this type medical testing....these outfits I speak of are usually long gone if you are mailed an alarming result, and some of them are not instantly revealing while you sit there....again, your doc knows about these people; it's no big secret, LOL. She will advise you.
John F. Eldredge - 28 Apr 2008 05:17 GMT On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:36:24 +0000, bastXXXette wrote:
> It's hard to know what to believe, since so much of what we hear about > regarding medicine and health has profit as a motive. If there's not a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > that a crock? Or is it true, but just sounds like a crock because it > doesn't make the official news? I don't know enough about this particular test to know how accurate it would be, but it is my understanding that artery inflammation is associated with the formation of blood clots. The association of cholesterol plaques with blood clots apparently involves the plaque splitting open and releasing chemicals into the bloodstream that trigger a clot. This test probably gives a preliminary indication, but more complex testing would be necessary to determine where the inflammation was located.
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Kreisleriana - 24 Apr 2008 16:31 GMT >I had a horrendous two days here. On Tuesday afternoon, after doing yard >work, I started to have chest pains. They got so bad that I passed out. I [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > And Oscar is just fine. He's a little needy, and is attached to my hip > and lap!! I've never been so thankful to God in my life!!! Having dealt with last week's disappearing Stinky trick for about an hour, I don't know how anyone lives with more than that. That panic and helplessness is an unbearable sensation. Thanks Bast the little booger decided to show you where he was.
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~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 25 Apr 2008 15:23 GMT >>I had a horrendous two days here. On Tuesday afternoon, after doing yard >>work, I started to have chest pains. They got so bad that I passed out. I [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > helplessness is an unbearable sensation. Thanks Bast the little booger > decided to show you where he was. And amen to that!!! (And God Bless Stinky)!!! ;)
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polonca12000 - 28 Apr 2008 22:07 GMT >> I had a horrendous two days here. On Tuesday afternoon, after doing yard >> work, I started to have chest pains. They got so bad that I passed out. I [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > helplessness is an unbearable sensation. Thanks Bast the little booger > decided to show you where he was. I'm relieved to hear all ended well. Purrs, Polonca and Soncek
Stormmee - 24 Apr 2008 17:45 GMT what a true blessing to end a horrible 2 days, between you and Susan I will never name a Siamese Oscar, Lee
> I had a horrendous two days here. On Tuesday afternoon, after doing yard > work, I started to have chest pains. They got so bad that I passed out. I [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother. > ~Abraham Lincoln Irulan - 24 Apr 2008 20:32 GMT oh my god, what a scare for you and for Oscar. Glad to hear that both of you are find. Please take good care of yourself.
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> what a true blessing to end a horrible 2 days, between you and Susan I > will [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >> All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother. >> ~Abraham Lincoln bastXXXette@sonic.net - 24 Apr 2008 18:36 GMT > I had a horrendous two days here. On Tuesday afternoon, after doing yard > work, I started to have chest pains. They got so bad that I passed out. I > didn't want to call 911, so I tried to drive myself to the hospital. I > never made it out of the driveway. I used my cell phone and called 911. [snip]
That sounds very frightening! I'm glad you're OK.
And I'm glad you found your baby!
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hopitus - 24 Apr 2008 18:41 GMT > I had a horrendous two days here. On Tuesday afternoon, after doing yard > work, I started to have chest pains. They got so bad that I passed out. I [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother. > ~Abraham Lincoln Laurie, I love you dearly and we've been friends since I got my first PC....back in the day when alt.cats was sane, LOL...but please don't *ever* try to drive yourself to medical care if you have something going on that might make you pass out. That said, I join in thanksgiving for your Siamese baby's "unearthing" under the porch. Once in a long while, Rowdous escapes out onto the wooden plank/rail entrance setup which leads to the stairs going down only (we live on the PH level, top) and he is not so mentally challenged that he can't realize that at the top of those stairs, its a *loooooong* way down, and since he has NO depth perception due to his blind left eye, can usually be grabbed while still trying to decide whether he wants to continue his escape saga. Every time this happens, I realize cats are - as we all know - really smart, as they seem to recognize being 3 floors above ground, whether it's on a balcony, deck (as we have one) or a wooden plank stairway with snow on it, LOL. Hope you got your pleurisy or whatever it was taken care of and feeling better.
outsider - 24 Apr 2008 20:58 GMT hopitus <hopitus@hotmail.com> wrote in
but please don't *ever* try to drive yourself
> to medical care if you have something going on that might > make you pass out. I agree; very bad plan. Very glad your ok and the little guy too. I hope they figure out what happened.
Andy
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 25 Apr 2008 15:25 GMT On Apr 24, 8:48 am, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" <nob...@myjunkaddy.com> wrote:
> I had a horrendous two days here. On Tuesday afternoon, after doing yard > work, I started to have chest pains. They got so bad that I passed out. I [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother. > ~Abraham Lincoln Laurie, I love you dearly and we've been friends since I got my first PC....back in the day when alt.cats was sane, LOL...but please don't *ever* try to drive yourself to medical care if you have something going on that might make you pass out. That said, I join in thanksgiving for your Siamese baby's "unearthing" under the porch. Once in a long while, Rowdous escapes out onto the wooden plank/rail entrance setup which leads to the stairs going down only (we live on the PH level, top) and he is not so mentally challenged that he can't realize that at the top of those stairs, its a *loooooong* way down, and since he has NO depth perception due to his blind left eye, can usually be grabbed while still trying to decide whether he wants to continue his escape saga. Every time this happens, I realize cats are - as we all know - really smart, as they seem to recognize being 3 floors above ground, whether it's on a balcony, deck (as we have one) or a wooden plank stairway with snow on it, LOL. Hope you got your pleurisy or whatever it was taken care of and feeling better.
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Thanks, Hop. :) I didn't want an ambulance to come b/c I was embarrassed by what the neighbors would think. At least I smartened up in the driveway and not several blocks down the road!!
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kilikini - 24 Apr 2008 19:11 GMT > I had a horrendous two days here. On Tuesday afternoon, after doing > yard work, I started to have chest pains. They got so bad that I [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > needy, and is attached to my > hip and lap!! I've never been so thankful to God in my life!!! I'm so happy that you found him, Laurie! I don't know if one of mine would have hung around the house like that. I would have thought they'd be off like a shot. You're lucky!
kili
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 25 Apr 2008 15:28 GMT >> I had a horrendous two days here. On Tuesday afternoon, after doing >> yard work, I started to have chest pains. They got so bad that I [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > would have hung around the house like that. I would have thought they'd > be off like a shot. You're lucky! I know, Kili!!! I don't know when he got out, or how far he may have gone. Just two houses over would bring him to Route 31... which is extremely busy. The speed limit is only 30, but still!!
<<forever grateful>>
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> kili CatNipped - 24 Apr 2008 19:20 GMT >I had a horrendous two days here. On Tuesday afternoon, after doing yard >work, I started to have chest pains. They got so bad that I passed out. I [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > And Oscar is just fine. He's a little needy, and is attached to my hip > and lap!! I've never been so thankful to God in my life!!! Wow, what a nerve wracking two days you've had - I'm glad everything worked out in the end.
Hugs,
CatNipped
~*LiveLoveLaugh*~ - 25 Apr 2008 15:29 GMT >>I had a horrendous two days here. On Tuesday afternoon, after doing yard >>work, I started to have chest pains. They got so bad that I passed out. I [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Wow, what a nerve wracking two days you've had - I'm glad everything > worked out in the end. And thank God it's over, Lor!! `Have been reading your posts.... `sorry I haven't replied. You're in my prayers tho'!!
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> Hugs, > > CatNipped Adrian - 24 Apr 2008 19:26 GMT <snip>
> And Oscar is just fine. He's a little needy, and is attached to my > hip and lap!! I've never been so thankful to God in my life!!! {{{{{{{{{{{{ Laurie }}}}}}}}}}}} I'm so glad everything turned out OK, what a horrible experience.
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Sam - 25 Apr 2008 03:45 GMT Good grief! So glad everyone's OK (so to speak).
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Marina - 25 Apr 2008 04:42 GMT > and then I > heard a mew. I wasn't quite sure of what I heard, b/c Oscar doesn't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > again. Slowly, I saw two paws, and then a nose with cobwebs all over the > whiskers!! Finally, Oskee's head popped out. He mewed and mewed!! So glad you found him and he was alright.
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Susan M - 25 Apr 2008 04:47 GMT > I had a horrendous two days here. On Tuesday afternoon, after doing > yard work, I started to have chest pains. They got so bad that I passed [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > count b/c I had a friend and my maintenance man stop by to let the dogs > out. My worst fear came true. Oscar was gone. I'm so glad that both of you are okay!!
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