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CatNipped - 22 Apr 2008 15:53 GMT On Sunday Hunter accidentally got out when DH was walking through the hall door and Sammy happened to be just outside the door. Sammy panicked and ran downstairs and Hunter chased her under my bed. There were no blows exchanged, but there was a lot of trash talk going on between them - Sammy hissing and growling in fear as Hunter tried to get to her.
Then yesterday we had to take her to the vet's to have her anal gland expressed and she was so frightened she urinated all over herself (something she's never done before. She's so upset that she's stopped eating for me - but DH said she did go and eat something (not much) after I left for work this morning (please gawd let this be a bastard cat trick).
Does anybody know what prescription medication is used for feline anxiety and what is used to stimulate appetite?
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:-)Liz - 22 Apr 2008 18:00 GMT Nutra Cal is a great appetite stimulator (it comes in a toothpaste tube like container and you just squeeze a small amount out ...apply to kitty's open mouth or paw if the little kitty isn't cooperating)...I've nurse many a kitty back to health it it...Available at most vets as well as a few pet stores that have a vet on call... Best Success and Purrs headed your way...
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> On Sunday Hunter accidentally got out when DH was walking through the hall > door and Sammy happened to be just outside the door. Sammy panicked and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Does anybody know what prescription medication is used for feline anxiety > and what is used to stimulate appetite? CatNipped - 22 Apr 2008 19:23 GMT > Nutra Cal is a great appetite stimulator (it comes in a toothpaste tube > like container and you just squeeze a small amount out ...apply to kitty's > open mouth or paw if the little kitty isn't cooperating)...I've nurse many > a kitty back to health it it...Available at most vets as well as a few pet > stores that have a vet on call... Best Success and Purrs headed your > way... :-) Liz Wow, I didn't know there was something like that available for cats! Thanks so much for that info - I'll stop by PetsMart tonight and call the vet if they don't carry it.
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>> On Sunday Hunter accidentally got out when DH was walking through the >> hall door and Sammy happened to be just outside the door. Sammy panicked [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> Does anybody know what prescription medication is used for feline anxiety >> and what is used to stimulate appetite? Jo Firey - 22 Apr 2008 19:43 GMT >> Nutra Cal is a great appetite stimulator (it comes in a toothpaste tube >> like container and you just squeeze a small amount out ...apply to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > CatNipped Note, if kitty is really resistant, kind of rub it into the paw so they can't shake the paw and send it flying. Better a little bit at a time than a mess everywhere.
The cat we used it for the most liked the stuff and would usually lick it off our fingers.
Jo
Kreisleriana - 22 Apr 2008 20:55 GMT >> Nutra Cal is a great appetite stimulator (it comes in a toothpaste tube >> like container and you just squeeze a small amount out ...apply to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > CatNipped Note that there *are* two or three cats in the world who don't care for it at all-- Stinky is one of them, dammit. But most cats seem crazy about the stuff.
As for the anxiety, I just don't know, although my heart and purrs go out to the Samazon.
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CatNipped - 22 Apr 2008 21:04 GMT >>> Nutra Cal is a great appetite stimulator (it comes in a toothpaste tube >>> like container and you just squeeze a small amount out ...apply to [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > As for the anxiety, I just don't know, although my heart and purrs go out > to the Samazon. For a while the Homeopet Anxiety seemed to be working, but being chased and then seeing the vet was just too much for her all in a few days. For being the hugest cat I've ever seen, she certainly is a big wuss! I was hoping to not have to put her on prescription medication, but it might come to that.
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Sherry - 22 Apr 2008 21:28 GMT > >>> Nutra Cal is a great appetite stimulator (it comes in a toothpaste tube > >>> like container and you just squeeze a small amount out ...apply to [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > CatNipped The vet has prescribed an extremely low-dose diazepam (Valium) for Yoda to stimulate appetite. It actually worked pretty fast, IIRC I only gave it to him two or three times. I've read it's also used safely in cats to treat anxiety or aggression. It might be worth discussing w/your vet if she doesn't snap out of it soon.
Sherry
CatNipped - 22 Apr 2008 22:13 GMT On Apr 22, 3:04 pm, "CatNipped" <CatNip...@PossiblePlaces.com> wrote:
> "Kreisleriana" <drtm...@earthlink.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > CatNipped The vet has prescribed an extremely low-dose diazepam (Valium) for Yoda to stimulate appetite. It actually worked pretty fast, IIRC I only gave it to him two or three times. I've read it's also used safely in cats to treat anxiety or aggression. It might be worth discussing w/your vet if she doesn't snap out of it soon.
Sherry
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Definitely, thanks!
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Winnie - 23 Apr 2008 08:23 GMT > The vet has prescribed an extremely low-dose diazepam (Valium) for > Yoda to stimulate appetite. It actually worked pretty fast, IIRC I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Sherry- Hide quoted text - Rusty was also put on Valium when he stopped eating the first summer I got him. It was the first time I had to pill a cat. He drooled after taking the pill. Scared me to death until I realized it must tasted awful.
One time when Rusty stopped eating while on antibiotics, the vet prescribed some Hill's A/D. Use a syringe to feed it.
Also have you tried Rescue Remedy? It is available at health food stores. Just add 2 drops to the drinking water every day. It helps to calm the cat.
Winnie
Kyla =^. .^= - 22 Apr 2008 23:16 GMT "Kreisleriana"
> "CatNipped" >> ":-)Liz" < [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > As for the anxiety, I just don't know, although my heart and purrs go out > to the Samazon. Heartfelt purrs headed your way for a better healing. Hug Kyla & Mosey http://i26.tinypic.com/x440lt.jpg Mosey picture
Marina - 23 Apr 2008 04:03 GMT > Note that there *are* two or three cats in the world who don't care for it > at all-- Stinky is one of them, dammit. But most cats seem crazy about the > stuff. Even Miranda, the epitome of fickle, loves that stuff.
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Enfilade - 23 Apr 2008 04:28 GMT Kumani regularly pees herself at the vet....but is okay the rest of the time. She is just so scared of the vet. That time when she was on IV, and DP went to get her, she attacked him until she recognized him and then just /clung/ (which apparently hurt more than the attack, as she clung with all 18 claws). Still, poor kitten, they don't like being covered in their own pee.
If Sammy doesn't eat in the next day I would definitely try that appetite stuff and if she still won't eat then it's probably time for anti depressants.
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> > at all-- Stinky is one of them, dammit. But most cats seem crazy about the > > stuff. EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 22 Apr 2008 22:30 GMT > On Sunday Hunter accidentally got out when DH was walking through the hall > door and Sammy happened to be just outside the door. Sammy panicked and ran [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Does anybody know what prescription medication is used for feline anxiety Isn't that what "Feliway" is used for? Fortunately my cats have always bonded (or at least learned to accept each other) with a minimum of aggression, and no signs of anxiety. My two now are delighted with each other's companionship. Until Cendrillon arrived, Mélisande was clearly missing Patches (who had to be PTS due to skin cancer). They have their occasional "spats", but those seem to be more play than genuine, they frequently groom one another, and both of them sleep curled together on my bed at night.
CatNipped - 22 Apr 2008 22:49 GMT >> On Sunday Hunter accidentally got out when DH was walking through the >> hall door and Sammy happened to be just outside the door. Sammy panicked [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > frequently groom one another, and both of them sleep curled together on my > bed at night. Feliway is *very* expensive (about $45 per plug-in unit here plus pricey refills, and in my house I'd have to have about 10 to cover the whole house).
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blkcatgal - 23 Apr 2008 00:43 GMT You can get pretty good deals on Feliway online. Check out valleyvet.com or entirelypets.com. One diffuser covers about 600 -700 square feet.
Continue using the Homeopath Anxiety. Rescue Remedy (Bach Flower) is another good thing to use to relieve stress. Hopefully after a day or two, Sammy will calm down enough.
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>> >>> On Sunday Hunter accidentally got out when DH was walking through the [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > CatNipped EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 24 Apr 2008 03:14 GMT >>> On Sunday Hunter accidentally got out when DH was walking through the >>> hall door and Sammy happened to be just outside the door. Sammy panicked [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > CatNipped Sorry! I'd never priced it, since I've never really needed such a product. Might there be some sort of "aromatherapy" equivalent, that wouldn't cost as much?
CatNipped - 24 Apr 2008 15:08 GMT >>>> On Sunday Hunter accidentally got out when DH was walking through the >>>> hall door and Sammy happened to be just outside the door. Sammy [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > product. Might there be some sort of "aromatherapy" equivalent, that > wouldn't cost as much? I'm going to try Bach's Rescue Remedy - that's supposed to help.
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Sam - 23 Apr 2008 03:06 GMT > On Sunday Hunter accidentally got out when DH was walking through the hall > door and Sammy happened to be just outside the door. Sammy panicked and ran [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Does anybody know what prescription medication is used for feline anxiety > and what is used to stimulate appetite? No advice to give better than what you've already gotten here, but sending major calming purrs for Sammy.
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CatNipped - 23 Apr 2008 14:37 GMT Sammy has calmed down and is eating again. One thing that helped is that I discontinued trying to put them all on a canned-only diet since they were losing *WAY* too much weight (Demi went from 7 pounds 6 ounces to 6 pounds 8 ounces and the rest had similar drastic weight losses over the two months on canned only - more than they could safely afford to lose). They still eat mostly canned, but I've started adding Science Diet dry as a supplement. Sammy loves dry food the most of any of them so she was tempted into eating a bit, then a bit more.
She's staying out in the middle of the great room again and not hiding all the time, and she appears to be doing well on the Homeopet Anxiety drops. I'm going to add some Rescue Remedy to everyone's drinking water. However, they don't drink a lot of water since they eat mostly canned food - I heard somewhere that you would rub Rescue Remedy into their ear and that works as well. Has anyone heard this or could confirm it?
Hunter still has 5 weeks of quarantine to go, and I'm not going to start any introductions until he gets his second FIV/FeLV test. So in light of this, and since Sammy has calmed down again, I'm going to put off getting her valium or Feliway for a little while longer. I'm still hoping she'll get used to smelling his scent and won't be so panicked when she sees him again.
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CatNipped
> On Sunday Hunter accidentally got out when DH was walking through the hall > door and Sammy happened to be just outside the door. Sammy panicked and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Does anybody know what prescription medication is used for feline anxiety > and what is used to stimulate appetite? Adrian - 23 Apr 2008 14:56 GMT > Sammy has calmed down and is eating again. One thing that helped is > that I discontinued trying to put them all on a canned-only diet [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > CatNipped That sounds promising, thanks for the update.
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Kreisleriana - 23 Apr 2008 15:16 GMT > Sammy has calmed down and is eating again. One thing that helped is that > I discontinued trying to put them all on a canned-only diet since they [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > CatNipped Purring for Sammy to quickly re-discover her inner Samazon.
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>> On Sunday Hunter accidentally got out when DH was walking through the >> hall door and Sammy happened to be just outside the door. Sammy panicked [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> Does anybody know what prescription medication is used for feline anxiety >> and what is used to stimulate appetite? Stormmee - 23 Apr 2008 17:43 GMT if you can do it without drugs it would be much better for her health and your pocketbook, that is good news, Lee
> Sammy has calmed down and is eating again. One thing that helped is that I > discontinued trying to put them all on a canned-only diet since they were [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > > > See all my masters here: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ Winnie - 24 Apr 2008 00:01 GMT > Sammy has calmed down and is eating again. One thing that helped is that I > discontinued trying to put them all on a canned-only diet since they were [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > somewhere that you would rub Rescue Remedy into their ear and that works as > well. Has anyone heard this or could confirm it? You can add the Rescue Remedy directly to the canned food. Thats what I do with Rusty. Like your cats, he hardly drinks from his water dish. I add a bit of water to his canned food along with drops of Rescue Remedy. I haven't heard about rubbing it to the ear. You probably can try putting the drops directly in their mouth. But I think the easiest is adding it to their food or water. It doesn't seem to affect the taste of it.
> Hunter still has 5 weeks of quarantine to go, and I'm not going to start any > introductions until he gets his second FIV/FeLV test. So in light of this, > and since Sammy has calmed down again, I'm going to put off getting her > valium or Feliway for a little while longer. I'm still hoping she'll get > used to smelling his scent and won't be so panicked when she sees him again. I have also read about rubbing some vanilla at the base of each cat's tail so they smell the same to each other. Haven't tried it myself as I only have one cat.
Winnie
> Hugs, > > CatNipped Marina - 24 Apr 2008 03:39 GMT > I heard > somewhere that you would rub Rescue Remedy into their ear and that works as > well. Has anyone heard this or could confirm it? Yes, I've heard of it. I think it was Krista who used to do that to her Mikey every time she had to take him anywhere. It helped calm him down for the trip and against car sickness. I don't know how long one rub would be effective, though.
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Christina Websell - 24 Apr 2008 02:09 GMT . She's so upset that she's stopped eating for me -
> but DH said she did go and eat something (not much) after I left for work > this morning (please gawd let this be a bastard cat trick). > > Does anybody know what prescription medication is used for feline anxiety > and what is used to stimulate appetite? You do not need to medicate your cats. What you have done has freaked them out and they need a lot more time to adjust. They do not need medication. What's this about cats needing anxiety medication? I would venture to say that you may have taken on more cats than you can cope with - and more importantly more than *they* can cope with.
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CatNipped - 24 Apr 2008 15:14 GMT > . She's so upset that she's stopped eating for me - >> but DH said she did go and eat something (not much) after I left for work [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Tweed No, I don't think so - Sammy is the only one who is freaking out, the rest seem to like the company. Heck, there are people here (Victor) who have more than 6. I wouldn't have that many in a smaller house, but even though it's dilapidated and falling apart, our house is *huge* - 5 bedrooms, 2 stories and more than 2,000 sq. ft. If they want, they can go all day without seeing each other, but they usually all congregate in one room
It's not unusual in the States to medicate a cat for anxiety. Many people here have done so. I'm going to try all other remedies first, but if medication is the only way to make Sammy happy I won't hesitate to give it to her.
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Christina Websell - 25 Apr 2008 23:29 GMT > It's not unusual in the States to medicate a cat for anxiety. Many people > here have done so. Maybe they do. What needs to happen is that the root of the anxiety needs to be sorted out. They do not need medication. No cats need this here; as far as I know.
Tweed
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 26 Apr 2008 21:13 GMT >> It's not unusual in the States to medicate a cat for anxiety. Many people >> here have done so. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Tweed I have my reservations about how many PEOPLE need it! We Americans seem to have become a nation of pill-pushers, seeking medication rather than lasting solutions for our problems. (I don't question the fact drugs are sometimes necessary, but nowadays people seem to treat every minor ill - physical or mental - by grabbing any available pill, without giving the condition a chance to cure itself, first.)
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 26 Apr 2008 21:29 GMT > I have my reservations about how many PEOPLE need it! We Americans seem > to have become a nation of pill-pushers, seeking medication rather than > lasting solutions for our problems. (I don't question the fact drugs > are sometimes necessary, but nowadays people seem to treat every minor > ill - physical or mental - by grabbing any available pill, without > giving the condition a chance to cure itself, first.) Sometimes I'll go to the doctor about a weird symptom that has me worried, and the doctor will immediately whip out the prescription pad. Then she looks puzzled and a bit annoyed when I say I don't want a drug, probably wondering why I even bothered to come in. But I don't consider a doctor to be my pill supplier! (Unless I have a known condition that requires medication, that is.)
Most of the time, though, what I want is for the doctor to rule out a serious condition. The symptom might not even be overly uncomfortable, and my priorty usually isn't "make this go away by any means necessary". Generally, my goal is to be reassured that nothing serious is wrong. And in the event that something serious *is* wrong, to begin treatment immediately.
When I have a cold, I usually treat it with lots of liquids, vitamin C, and echinacea, which has been "officially" discredited, but still works for me. I try to get more rest than usual, too - that seems to be the best cure of all. And I completely avoid things like decongestants, cough syrup, and all that stuff you can buy on the shelf, the one exception being ibuprofen, if I'm in any pain or have a fever. This seems to work perfectly well for me. Chicken soup doesn't hurt, either.
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 28 Apr 2008 03:55 GMT > When I have a cold, I usually treat it with lots of liquids, vitamin > C, and echinacea, which has been "officially" discredited, but still [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > exception being ibuprofen, if I'm in any pain or have a fever. This > seems to work perfectly well for me. Chicken soup doesn't hurt, either. Works for me, too! I also double my daily dose of Co-enzyme Q-10, when I feel as though I'm coming down with something. (Anything to bolster the immune system so it can do its job, without resorting to antibiotics unnecessarily.)
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