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Kreisleriana - 31 Mar 2008 19:10 GMT
Dear fellow kitties, be very careful.  Your mommies and daddies and grandmas
may sweet talk you and tickle you in places you like, and give you treats
and nip, but behind it all may be a BIG NEEDLE THAT THEY STICK IN YOU and
expect you to just put up with it!!

I have always prided my self on being a civilized gentlemen, but by Ceiling
Cat, THERE ARE LIMITS!!!

Is this the thanks I get for almost 17 years of devoted mousie and greebling
control, relaxation therapy, rather high-level comedy, if I say so myself,
and endless snuggles, kisses and purrs?

Up with it I shall not put!!!

Stinky

Theresa here:
Oh my darling, if only I could make you understand.
And he didn't.  As I feared, on his home turf, Stinky was a much tougher
patient than in the vet's office.  Even with Mom helping, I failed twice to
get him to keep still, get the line to stay in,  managed to spray us all
with subQ fluid, and  got Stinky thoroughly PO'd with us-- making those
jungle-cat noises, as we tried to hold him.

I'm actually feeling frustrated as I read all these web accounts of how
"easily" different cats take their treatment.  I feel so useless. I think
I'd rather read some accounts of  cats who were tough at first, and
improved.

I know I've asked for much more than our share of purrs in the past few
days, but it's for everybody'd pal, Stinky.  Please, please keep 'em coming.

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Theresa, Stinky and Dante
drtmuirATearthlink.net

hopitus - 31 Mar 2008 19:15 GMT
> Dear fellow kitties, be very careful.  Your mommies and daddies and grandmas
> may sweet talk you and tickle you in places you like, and give you treats
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> Theresa, Stinky and Dante
> drtmuirATearthlink.net

Sorry, Theresa. Try having Mom stuff treat kibbles in his mouth while
you
do the dirty work below. Another person to hold the rear end may help.
Stinky don't get that you are trying to save his 9 lives.
Granby - 31 Mar 2008 19:16 GMT
Prayers and purrs for stinky.  I know when you hurt them, in order to help
them it is the same as with people, you can't win.  Hang in there, it will
get better.

> Dear fellow kitties, be very careful.  Your mommies and daddies and
> grandmas may sweet talk you and tickle you in places you like, and give
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> days, but it's for everybody'd pal, Stinky.  Please, please keep 'em
> coming.
CatNipped - 31 Mar 2008 19:21 GMT
It may take a while Theresa, but it will get better.  And hopefully he'll
start associating feeling better with the SubQ and won't be as fractious.

Hugs,

CatNipped

> Dear fellow kitties, be very careful.  Your mommies and daddies and
> grandmas may sweet talk you and tickle you in places you like, and give
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> days, but it's for everybody'd pal, Stinky.  Please, please keep 'em
> coming.
hopitus - 31 Mar 2008 19:24 GMT
> Dear fellow kitties, be very careful.  Your mommies and daddies and grandmas
> may sweet talk you and tickle you in places you like, and give you treats
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> Theresa, Stinky and Dante
> drtmuirATearthlink.net

What gauge is the needle? 18?19?
hopitus - 31 Mar 2008 19:29 GMT
> > Dear fellow kitties, be very careful.  Your mommies and daddies and grandmas
> > may sweet talk you and tickle you in places you like, and give you treats
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> What gauge is the needle? 18?19?

And what's in the baggie? D5W, saline solution, Ringers Lactate?
Marina - 31 Mar 2008 19:43 GMT
> I know I've asked for much more than our share of purrs in the past few
> days, but it's for everybody'd pal, Stinky.  Please, please keep 'em coming.

Of course, Theresa. Never hesitate to ask. We are all pulling for
Stinky. And for you. I hope with time, you will get more skilled with
the subq and Stinky will relax. I'm so sorry you two are having to go
through this.

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Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.

Kyla  =^..^= - 31 Mar 2008 20:48 GMT
"Marina"

>> I know I've asked for much more than our share of purrs in the past few
>> days, but it's for everybody'd pal, Stinky.  Please, please keep 'em
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> And for you. I hope with time, you will get more skilled with the subq and
> Stinky will relax. I'm so sorry you two are having to go through this.

I agree with Marina , Theresa,, it can get frustrating, but you're doing the
best thing for Stinky.  We had to give out cat Big Bart (now RB a long time
ago)  IV treatments, and it wasn't pleasant for any of us.
But PUUUUUUURS for both you and Stinky, for the best possible outcome.
Hug
Kyla
Mosey sends Stinky a healing <nosepoink> from across the water.
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 31 Mar 2008 20:17 GMT
> And he didn't.  As I feared, on his home turf, Stinky was a much tougher
> patient than in the vet's office.  Even with Mom helping, I failed twice to
> get him to keep still, get the line to stay in,  managed to spray us all
> with subQ fluid, and  got Stinky thoroughly PO'd with us-- making those
> jungle-cat noises, as we tried to hold him.

> I'm actually feeling frustrated as I read all these web accounts of how
> "easily" different cats take their treatment.  I feel so useless. I think
> I'd rather read some accounts of  cats who were tough at first, and
> improved.

Awww, I'm sorry it's not starting out very well! On the other hand, the
fact that he's being difficult is a good sign, I guess. I've given fluids
to cats who were too weak to protest. It was easy for me, but not so great
for the poor kitties.

I can understand feeling even more inadequate when everyone's telling you
how easy it is. But I don't think it always starts out so easy. I just
think that you will master it, once you get the hang of it. I don't just
mean the needle stick, but controlling the little beast, too.

> I know I've asked for much more than our share of purrs in the past few
> days, but it's for everybody'd pal, Stinky.  Please, please keep 'em coming.

Purrs for this process to get much easier, and for Stinky to find relief
from the fluids!

Joyce

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Kreisleriana - 31 Mar 2008 20:46 GMT
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh

> Dear fellow kitties, be very careful.  Your mommies and daddies and
> grandmas may sweet talk you and tickle you in places you like, and give
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> days, but it's for everybody'd pal, Stinky.  Please, please keep 'em
> coming.

Oh, BTW, to add insult to injury.  Stinky ate like a little pig this
morning.  I was overjoyed, since you know that he's been very picky lately.
A combo of canned and freh-cooled chicken got his juices flowing, and he put
it away and held it down.

Then, after I finally got his damn fluids into him, one of the ways he found
to express his displeasure with me was to puke it all back up right in front
of me.  Ouch.

PS, he has his head inside a can of Fancy Feast chicken feast in gravy right
now.

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Theresa, Stinky and Dante
drtmuirATearthlink.net

bastXXXette@sonic.net - 31 Mar 2008 20:56 GMT
> Oh, BTW, to add insult to injury.  Stinky ate like a little pig this
> morning.  I was overjoyed, since you know that he's been very picky lately.
> A combo of canned and freh-cooled chicken got his juices flowing, and he put
> it away and held it down.

> Then, after I finally got his damn fluids into him, one of the ways he found
> to express his displeasure with me was to puke it all back up right in front
> of me.  Ouch.

> PS, he has his head inside a can of Fancy Feast chicken feast in gravy right
> now.

My guess, off the top of my head: he is feeling better because of the fluids
he has already received (at the vet's). This has given him back some of his
appetite. And that caused him to vacuum down his food, maybe a bit too fast?
So maybe eating too fast, combined with stress from having to get the fluids
at home, caused him to puke. As you can see, his appetite is still OK. :)

How's his energy level, since he's been back home? I always noticed, with
my CRF cat, that she would perk up very noticeably, about a half-hour after
getting fluids. Flushing out the toxins really helped her feel a lot better.

Joyce

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Kreisleriana - 31 Mar 2008 22:37 GMT
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh

> > Oh, BTW, to add insult to injury.  Stinky ate like a little pig this
> > morning.  I was overjoyed, since you know that he's been very picky
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> fluids
> at home, caused him to puke.

That's what I figured, also.

As you can see, his appetite is still OK. :)

It's not great overall.  It's a great relief to see him eat.

> How's his energy level, since he's been back home? I always noticed, with
> my CRF cat, that she would perk up very noticeably, about a half-hour
> after
> getting fluids. Flushing out the toxins really helped her feel a lot
> better.

Unfortunately, he's been pretty grumpy and sulky, mostly.

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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 31 Mar 2008 23:57 GMT
> It's not great overall.  It's a great relief to see him eat.

I'll bet! I hope it continues to get better.

>> How's his energy level, since he's been back home? I always noticed, with
>> my CRF cat, that she would perk up very noticeably, about a half-hour
>> after
>> getting fluids. Flushing out the toxins really helped her feel a lot
>> better.

> Unfortunately, he's been pretty grumpy and sulky, mostly.

Aww, poor Stinky. :(  He's having a hard time with all this. Well, he's
been to the Evil Place, and now his favorite humans are holding him down
and poking him with something sharp. I guess I'd sulk, too. Purrs for
him to get used to it, so he can enjoy the benefits. You, too!

Joyce

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Christina Websell - 01 Apr 2008 01:23 GMT
> > Oh, BTW, to add insult to injury.  Stinky ate like a little pig this
> > morning.  I was overjoyed, since you know that he's been very picky
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> getting fluids. Flushing out the toxins really helped her feel a lot
> better.

My vet never offered fluids for Kitty Farmcat,  she is too old to benefit.
May Stinky live a long time, I am fond of him.

Tweed
Kyla  =^. .^= - 01 Apr 2008 23:45 GMT
> <bastXXXette@
>> Kreisleriana :
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>> getting fluids. Flushing out the toxins really helped her feel a lot
>> better.

Poor Stinky..
Many healing purrs again sent from the Seattle area.
and again Mosey sends Stinky some <healing nosepoinks>
and tells him not to be hissed, that you're trying to help him.
HUG
Bless your heart
Kyla
hopitus - 31 Mar 2008 20:57 GMT
> > Dear fellow kitties, be very careful.  Your mommies and daddies and
> > grandmas may sweet talk you and tickle you in places you like, and give
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> Theresa, Stinky and Dante
> drtmuirATearthlink.net

A hearty *GOOD* to you re the fluids. Whatever your equipment, YOU DID
IT
as someone named "Dora" says on tv to kids. Now you will be able to do
it
again and Stinky will come around and get used to it. Maybe his meals
after
the subQ and a treat morsel or two after them?
Susan M - 03 Apr 2008 02:44 GMT
> Oh, BTW, to add insult to injury.  Stinky ate like a little pig this
> morning.  I was overjoyed, since you know that he's been very picky lately.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> PS, he has his head inside a can of Fancy Feast chicken feast in gravy right
> now.

Oh no - I'm sorry to hear of your trials with subQ and eating and
puking.  Lots of purrs are forthcoming from my crew to Stinky to get
feeling good ASAP.

Susan M
Otis and Chester
Christina Websell - 31 Mar 2008 22:50 GMT
> Theresa here:
> Oh my darling, if only I could make you understand.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> days, but it's for everybody'd pal, Stinky.  Please, please keep 'em
> coming.

This is just an idea, OK?  Do you have a friend nearby that would let you go
to their house with him to give his subq? just to take him out of his home
where he feels brave to fight against it.  He might feel intimidated enough
like at the vets to allow it.
I do understand,Theresa.  KFC has CRF but there is no way I could give Subq
to her, she would not allow it under any circumstances.   I have chosen to
let her life take its course.  She is very comfortable snoozing in front of
the fire.
In your position, what would I do?
I would ask the vet what is the best option, take it on board and make my
own decision.
Sometimes mine is better.

I love Stinky.  He is Boyfriend's uncle.
LOTSA LUV N PURRS UNCA STINKY  TO GET WELL SOON

Yr neffew
Boyfie

t
Kreisleriana - 01 Apr 2008 05:39 GMT
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh

>> Theresa here:
>> Oh my darling, if only I could make you understand.
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> Yr neffew
> Boyfie

Greetings, dear Boyfie, and thank you for your purrs.

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Theresa, Stinky and Dante
drtmuirATearthlink.net

Takayuki - 31 Mar 2008 23:18 GMT
>I'm actually feeling frustrated as I read all these web accounts of how
>"easily" different cats take their treatment.  I feel so useless. I think
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>I know I've asked for much more than our share of purrs in the past few
>days, but it's for everybody'd pal, Stinky.  Please, please keep 'em coming.

I hope it does improve, poor boy.  They can make you feel very guilty
even when they need to be treated by their people.
Sam - 01 Apr 2008 04:36 GMT
> Dear fellow kitties, be very careful.  Your mommies and daddies and grandmas
> may sweet talk you and tickle you in places you like, and give you treats
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> I know I've asked for much more than our share of purrs in the past few
> days, but it's for everybody'd pal, Stinky.  Please, please keep 'em coming.

Purrs ain't stoppin' until you tell us he's used to the routine!

Sam, supervised by Mistletoe
leopardusweidii@yahoo.co.uk - 01 Apr 2008 11:10 GMT
> I'm actually feeling frustrated as I read all these web accounts of how
> "easily" different cats take their treatment.  I feel so useless. I think
> I'd rather read some accounts of  cats who were tough at first, and
> improved.////

I know it's not sub-Q, but Robbie is not known as the "ginger ninja"
by me and his vet for nothing...

When TED said he had to be on pills for the rest of his life, my heart
SANK! By getting into a routine, and making a *HUGE* fuss of him after
he takes his pill, after 6 months, we've finally got to the point
where he doesn't put me in the ER every day! He's pilled in the same
spot every day, and I wait until he's curled up, relaxed, sleepy and
quiet - if I try to pick him up or catch him to pill him, he'll nail
me - and I have the butterfly stitches in my hand to prove it from
last Sunday!

Try to establish some sort of routine. Also, explain what you are
doing to him before doing it and try to center yourself so that you
are feeling calm (difficult, I know). And..... best of luck and purrs
en-route.

Helen M
Charleen Welton - 01 Apr 2008 12:22 GMT
A bizillion purrs for you and for Stinky as you do what you have to do for
what he needs.
Charleen
Aggie Marble
Victor Velcro

> Dear fellow kitties, be very careful.  Your mommies and daddies and
> grandmas may sweet talk you and tickle you in places you like, and give
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> days, but it's for everybody'd pal, Stinky.  Please, please keep 'em
> coming.
LesleyM - 03 Apr 2008 10:27 GMT
>I'm actually feeling frustrated as I read all these web accounts of how
>"easily" different cats take their treatment.  I feel so useless. I think
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>I know I've asked for much more than our share of purrs in the past few
>days, but it's for everybody'd pal, Stinky.  Please, please keep 'em coming.

The purs are still coming

i am sure he'll get used to it in time

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
polonca12000 - 06 Apr 2008 22:25 GMT
<snip>
> Theresa here:
> Oh my darling, if only I could make you understand.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> I know I've asked for much more than our share of purrs in the past few
> days, but it's for everybody'd pal, Stinky.  Please, please keep 'em coming.

We are sending lots and lots of purrs for Stinky to realize this is all
to make him feel better and lots and lots of hugs for you, Theresa,
Polonca and Soncek
 
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