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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / April 2008Please don't post real names and addresses without consent
I'm posting this now because I know there will be a lot of communication about a possible meet-up of Catslaves and RPCA members. That could also involve exchanging addresses. I have obviously used my real name and address for the annual holiday card exchange. However, I have tried to be *very* careful not to ever use my real name and address on the Internet because that opens us up to privacy concerns, and that issue has become more and more important with the growth of identity theft problems. The moderators of the holiday list have been very good about using our names only for the holiday list itself and have not posted that information to the groups. However, I have noticed several occasions on RPCA when actual names and addresses are posted by other people. This is always done with good intentions, such as posting addresses for get-well cards. However, I would like to remind everyone not to ever do that unless you have the consent of the person involved. Once this information is posted on the Internet, there is no way to "undo" it or to assure that it is only seen by friendly eyes. I do realize that anyone who really wants information can already find it. All sorts of personal information about just about everyone is readily available. However, that at least would take a "search" or access to a compromised database. Posting the information on newsgroups or lists just increases the likelihood that it will be scooped up by groups that "harvest" those lists for unacceptable purposes. My request does not preclude anyone from using their own names if that is what they desire, but it is a request not to assume that it's "okay" to print someone else's personal information. Thanks! MaryL On Mar 29, 11:23 am, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > I'm posting this now because I know there will be a lot of communication > about a possible meet-up of Catslaves and RPCA members. That could also [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Thanks! > MaryL Sound advice. We all know that there are countless idiots out in cyberspace who'd take advantage of knowing who we are. That's why only but a couple of people I trust know me as anything but "Bobcat". Sad, but that's the way it is with newsgroups. On Mar 29, 11:23 am, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > I'm posting this now because I know there will be a lot of communication > about a possible meet-up of Catslaves and RPCA members. That could also [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > Thanks! > MaryL Sound advice. We all know that there are countless idiots out in cyberspace who'd take advantage of knowing who we are. That's why only but a couple of people I trust know me as anything but "Bobcat". Sad, but that's the way it is with newsgroups. I have to agree with you both on this. It has taken a long time for me to open up and allow contact information to be known But I have taken much time to go thru personal information on the internet and have it removed form the public eye > I have to agree with you both on this. It has taken a long time for > me to open up and allow contact information to be known > > But I have taken much time to go thru personal information on the > internet and have it removed form the public eye Am I having a flashback or did a server cough-up a month old post? It's Dejavu all over again. :) -outsider On Mar 29, 9:23 am, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > I'm posting this now because I know there will be a lot of communication > about a possible meet-up of Catslaves and RPCA members. That could also [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Thanks! > MaryL A voice of sanity in the wilderness of manic 411-sharing. Thank you for this heads-up. And you know what they say the road to hell is paved with..... that's why I remain hopitus with a garbage-can addy. > A voice of sanity in the wilderness of manic 411-sharing. Thank you > for this > heads-up. And you know what they say the road to hell is paved > with..... > that's why I remain hopitus with a garbage-can addy. A garbage-can addy is a good idea. I haven't done that, but the addy I use on newsgroups is not associated with my name and is not the addy I use for personal mail. That way, I can answer letters from newsgroup friends but my real name is not displayed. Thanks, MaryL "MaryL" > "hopitus" >> >> A voice of sanity in the wilderness of manic 411-sharing. Thank you [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Thanks, > MaryL That's why I ask hoomins here to send me their addy's to me by e-mail, so they don't get posted here. It's 4 pm on Sat and I'm still not awake from all the pain crap I had to take for my knees. Hug Kyla > That's why I ask hoomins here to send me their addy's to me by e-mail, > so they don't get posted here. > It's 4 pm on Sat and I'm still not awake from > all the pain crap I had to take for my knees. > Hug > Kyla I'll trade your knees for Rob's brain. Pam S. tired of it > "Kyla =^..^=" <kyla.water...@comcast.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Pam S. tired of it I'll call you Rob's brain and throw in my three cardiac stents, four CABG's, two femoral artery grafts and one carotid graft. I am still profoundly thankful for each additional day I"m allowed to wake up in this bonus round I've been granted, and I bet Rob does, too. Sherry On Mar 29, 8:46 pm, "tanadashoes" <tan...@earthlink.net> wrote: > "Kyla =^..^=" <kyla.water...@comcast.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Pam S. tired of it I'll call you Rob's brain and throw in my three cardiac stents, four CABG's, two femoral artery grafts and one carotid graft. I am still profoundly thankful for each additional day I"m allowed to wake up in this bonus round I've been granted, and I bet Rob does, too. Sherry *************************** Thanks Sherry. After I hit the send button, I felt guilty for a couple of minutes, then I read the post above to Rob. He said, that, even knowing that his time here is limited, he wouldn't trade any of it for anything else. He's grateful to be alive and kicking. Pam S. Who won't even try to top Sherry on that one > On Mar 29, 8:46 pm, "tanadashoes" <tan...@earthlink.net> wrote: >> "Kyla =^..^=" <kyla.water...@comcast.net> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Pam S. Who won't even try to top Sherry on that one Its surely not a competition. Each day is what it is. Sometimes its just easier to deal than other times. We just can't all face stuff like Dave Y did every day. Bet he couldn't do it every day either. Still not a morning person, so I can't manage to be grateful at the beginning of every day. Still, usually something enjoyable has happened along the way at the end of each one. If it hasn't, then that's what memories and dreams are for. Jo > > On Mar 29, 8:46 pm, "tanadashoes" <tan...@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> "Kyla =^..^=" <kyla.water...@comcast.net> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Its surely not a competition. Each day is what it is. Sometimes its just > easier to deal than other times. Don't misunderstand me, Jo. I wasn't playing "I can top this". Pammy knows that. All of us have reason to be grateful; I know you have challenges too and I know it's tough for you sometimes. I can wallow in the muck with the best of them, and some days I do. Sherry > We just can't all face stuff like Dave Y did every day. Bet he couldn't do > it every day either. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > - Show quoted text - On Mar 29, 11:24 pm, "Jo Firey" <jofi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > "tanadashoes" <tan...@earthlink.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Its surely not a competition. Each day is what it is. Sometimes its just > easier to deal than other times. Don't misunderstand me, Jo. I wasn't playing "I can top this". Pammy knows that. All of us have reason to be grateful; I know you have challenges too and I know it's tough for you sometimes. I can wallow in the muck with the best of them, and some days I do. Sherry Sherry, how about your father? How are things going for him now? I know his health and care have been another very difficult (and stressful) part of your life. MaryL On Mar 30, 1:24 am, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > On Mar 29, 11:24 pm, "Jo Firey" <jofi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > MaryL- Hide quoted text - OMG. That's a whole nuther deal. It's not good. He's home, but has no business being home and expects me to stay there 24/7, which I cannot do. I"m looking for a day person to hire. He can't stay here, because he absolutely loathes cats. Thinks they carry every disease known to man and also thinks all my health problems are due to all the cat hair I've sucked in over the last 20 years, etc. etc. THAT wouldn't work. I know this makes me look like a real loser daughter, but I can't just get of the cats!! No way. Sherry Sherry On Mar 30, 1:24 am, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> > Sherry, how about your father? How are things going for him now? I know > his health and care have been another very difficult (and stressful) part > of > your life. > > MaryL- Hide quoted text - OMG. That's a whole nuther deal. It's not good. He's home, but has no business being home and expects me to stay there 24/7, which I cannot do. I"m looking for a day person to hire. He can't stay here, because he absolutely loathes cats. Thinks they carry every disease known to man and also thinks all my health problems are due to all the cat hair I've sucked in over the last 20 years, etc. etc. THAT wouldn't work. I know this makes me look like a real loser daughter, but I can't just get of the cats!! No way. Sherry I adore my new granddaughter. There is nothing better than spending hours just sitting and rocking her. (In part because I know she will allow this for only a very short time) Odd are fairly high that she will be allergic to my dog and our cats. If its a bad as her Daddy's allergy, she won't be able to stay here overnight. Does that mean I would even consider getting rid of the dog or cats? Of course not. I do make a point of when I go to their house, I get a shower and put on clothes that haven't been exposed to fur, and get out of the house before dog or cats can climb on me. But that's as far as we go. (There is the matter of my sanity to consider. We very nearly named one of my dogs Therapy) Jo On Mar 30, 1:24 am, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > "Sherry" <sridd...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > MaryL- Hide quoted text - OMG. That's a whole nuther deal. It's not good. He's home, but has no business being home and expects me to stay there 24/7, which I cannot do. I"m looking for a day person to hire. He can't stay here, because he absolutely loathes cats. Thinks they carry every disease known to man and also thinks all my health problems are due to all the cat hair I've sucked in over the last 20 years, etc. etc. THAT wouldn't work. I know this makes me look like a real loser daughter, but I can't just get of the cats!! No way. Sherry Sherry NO!! This does *not* make you look like a loser of a daughter. You have to have a life, too. You are doing the very best you can for your father, but you also need to take care of your own health (both mental and physical). Don't let this become a guilt trip. Also, don't be surprised if your father finds fault with everyone you hire and tries to turn it into something to make you feel guilty about. I know that's a lot easier to say than to do, but you really do need to look after your own welfare (and DH's), as well as trying to do your best for your father. As you know, my mother died a few months ago. She lived with me, and I was her sole caregiver. Fortunately, she tried not to "impose" (as she called it), and we got along very well. Then the time came when she was completely bedridden, and there was no way I could do it all myself. I had to place her in a nursing home. I visited several times a week, but I still felt guilty -- and still do -- because I knew that I could never do enough to replace what she had when she was able to live with me. So, this advice is coming from someone who knows how hard it is not to have those feelings that we need to do "more," but sometimes that simply isn't possible. And from what I understand about your father, this will be much harder for you than it was for me. But, remember, *take care of yourself.* A person can sometimes place so much emphasis on caring for others that we endanger our own health. And that won't help anyone! MaryL You are so right in all you just said. I was sole caregiver for 10 years and, totally lost myself. By the time I was alone, I didn't know me anymore. I could only think in terms of doing for someone else. I made a deal and kept it but lost a lot. Have spent the last two years finding me and what I like and want. Your parents are important and so is a spouse but there in only so much a person can do before it takes your spirit. Please don't let that happen to you. > On Mar 30, 1:24 am, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] > > MaryL On Mar 30, 4:32 pm, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: But, remember, *take > care of yourself.* A person can sometimes place so much emphasis on caring > for others that we endanger our own health. And that won't help anyone! Sherry in total agreement with MaryL when Dave was first in hospital I found myself not eating for a few days (didn't do me much harm I carry generous fat reserves!) and quite literally getting up, going to the hospital and coming home completely worn out sometimes to the extent of collapsing onto the bed fully clothed and falling asleep until the next day when I got up went to the hospital and started the whole lousy cycle again and then....I started a new job so now it was up, work, hospital, collapse until the next day of the even lousier cycle. I very quickly learned that if I didn't want to end up in the next bed to Dave, which would not have helped at all I had to say once I left the hospital at 8.30 "Forget about everything but me!". I had to make that time when I could meet friends, read papers, go for a drink, get/ make myself something better than hospital canteen food (and even I can manage that!), have long hot baths and a facial, play music, dance, play with the cats anything I wanted to do and sometimes if I wanted to just turn in for an early night. I used to treasure those times, it made dealing with Dave when he was being a snappy so and so and all the bull that you get when you have to deal with the "caring professions" to be able to think that I would be in my little oasis of calm soon And of course you can;t get rid of the cats- they will help you a lot. I always made a bit of time for them as well and you can have the worse time in the World but Sarsi chasing a fether onna stick is a great natural antidepressant for me! Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs "Lesley" On Mar 30, 4:32 pm, "MaryL" wrote: But, remember, *take > care of yourself.* A person can sometimes place so much emphasis on caring > for others that we endanger our own health. And that won't help anyone! Sherry in total agreement with MaryL when Dave was first in hospital I found myself not eating for a few days (didn't do me much harm I carry generous fat reserves!) and quite literally getting up, going to the hospital and coming home completely worn out sometimes to the extent of collapsing onto the bed fully clothed and falling asleep until the next day when I got up went to the hospital and started the whole lousy cycle again and then....I started a new job so now it was up, work, hospital, collapse until the next day of the even lousier cycle. I very quickly learned that if I didn't want to end up in the next bed to Dave, which would not have helped at all I had to say once I left the hospital at 8.30 "Forget about everything but me!". I had to make that time when I could meet friends, read papers, go for a drink, get/ make myself something better than hospital canteen food (and even I can manage that!), have long hot baths and a facial, play music, dance, play with the cats anything I wanted to do and sometimes if I wanted to just turn in for an early night. I used to treasure those times, it made dealing with Dave when he was being a snappy so and so and all the bull that you get when you have to deal with the "caring professions" to be able to think that I would be in my little oasis of calm soon There ya go:) And of course you can;t get rid of the cats- they will help you a lot. I always made a bit of time for them as well and you can have the worse time in the World but Sarsi chasing a fether onna stick is a great natural antidepressant for me! Lesley Absolutely, the cats will do such silly things to make you LOL and giving you soothing PURRS Bless your heart Lesley Bright Blessings to you all Hug Kyla Slave of the Fabulous Furballs "MaryL" >> Sherry, how about your father? How are things going for him now? I know >> his health and care have been another very difficult (and stressful) part [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Sherry I'm sorry you're going thru this Sherry, I really am...sigh... and hey, my dad hated cats. Don't feel guilty at all. You're NOT a loser . Period. HUG Sherry > NO!! This does *not* make you look like a loser of a daughter. You have > to have a life, too. You are doing the very best you can for your father, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > to say than to do, but you really do need to look after your own welfare > (and DH's), as well as trying to do your best for your father. As you know, my mother died a few > months ago. She lived with me, and I was her sole caregiver. > Fortunately, she tried not to "impose" (as she called it), and we got [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > MaryL MaryL I just read this and I'm so sorry for the recent loss of your Mother :( I too lost my mother a few months ago, from a stroke and I'm sad that I couldn't go to see her, because we lived in different states, but we talked on the phone about 3-4 times a week. Tomorrow, April 1st would have been her 85th birthday. Bless your heart for being your Mom's caregiver, and for making that hard decision to put her in a nursing home. I also lost my dad early last year, and he was in a nursing home for about 2 years before he succumbed to dementia/alzimers. He was 82. Anyway, Hug Kyla --not knowing if I'm in your KF or not. > I just read this and I'm so sorry for the recent loss of your Mother :( > I too lost my mother a few months ago, from a stroke and I'm sad that I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Kyla > --not knowing if I'm in your KF or not. Thanks, Kyla. That would really be rough to lose both parents in such a short period of time. My father was 78 when he died; my mother was 91. No, you're not in my KF. In fact, I don't have much of a KF. I just ignore messages if the subject doesn't interest me. The only one who is in my KF is Andrew Chung. He insists on posting so many messages in so many groups that I did place him there, but that's the exception. I actually think it's rather silly to put much emphasis on KFs. It's remarkably just to scan subject lines and authors and to bypass unwanted messages. MaryL "MaryL" > "Kyla =^.**.^=" >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Thanks, Kyla. That would really be rough to lose both parents in such a > short period of time. Yeah, it was. And we lost out beloved 6 toed 19 year old cat Mutt, who went to RB Dec 9, 2007, he just took a nap and woke up on the Bridge. so I had 3 sad losses that year. My father was 78 when he died; my mother was 91. 91?? wow..she lived a long time bless her heart. > No, you're not in my KF. In fact, I don't have much of a KF. I just > ignore messages if the subject doesn't interest me. The only one who is > in my KF is Andrew Chung. same here along with that other nameless cretin who's first initial is B. He insists on posting so many messages in so many groups > that I did place him there, but that's the exception. I hear that:) I actually think it's > rather silly to put much emphasis on KFs. It's remarkably just to scan > subject lines and authors and to bypass unwanted messages. Agreed, but I don't even like to see his name, and thus..... Otherwise, no one here is in my KF. Thanks for your reply :) Kyla > MaryL > OMG. That's a whole nuther deal. It's not good. He's home, but has no > business [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > daughter, > but I can't just get of the cats!! No way. No it doesn't make you a loser daughter. There's a fine line between caring for another and giving up your own life to pander to another person. {{{{Sherry}}}} I hope you find a good solution to this problem. I guess I'm lucky in that Mum loves cats, too, though she doesn't have any of her own now. She is going to be 80 in August, and she is living by herself and going strong, but I wouldn't hesitate to move in with her if she needed someone there. She would welcome both me and the cats. Too bad your dad doesn't like them, they could help him feel better if he did.  SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. On Mar 30, 1:24 am, "MaryL" <stanco...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote: > "Sherry" <sridd...@aol.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > MaryL- Hide quoted text - OMG. That's a whole nuther deal. It's not good. He's home, but has no business being home and expects me to stay there 24/7, which I cannot do. I"m looking for a day person to hire. He can't stay here, because he absolutely loathes cats. Thinks they carry every disease known to man and also thinks all my health problems are due to all the cat hair I've sucked in over the last 20 years, etc. etc. THAT wouldn't work. I know this makes me look like a real loser daughter, but I can't just get of the cats!! No way. Sherry ====================================================== My son is allergic to cats*, so whenever he wants to visit with us for more than 15 minutes I hand him an allergy pill at the door! ;> * He didn't use to be until his (then) new wife made him put his cat outside and he became more sensitized from lack of contact. Hugs, CatNipped On Mar 29, 11:24 pm, "Jo Firey" <jofi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > "tanadashoes" <tan...@earthlink.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Its surely not a competition. Each day is what it is. Sometimes its just > easier to deal than other times. Don't misunderstand me, Jo. I wasn't playing "I can top this". Pammy knows that. All of us have reason to be grateful; I know you have challenges too and I know it's tough for you sometimes. I can wallow in the muck with the best of them, and some days I do. Sherry I sure hope you didn't feel that I thought you were. Many of us have our challenges. Some of them tougher than others. Some that just kind of wear you down till it feels like there is nothing left. Often the best we can do is just go curl up with a cat or three. If we are so lucky as to have cats that will co-operate. Purrs to each of you. Dang I miss my Rosie. Jo > Its surely not a competition. Each day is what it is. Sometimes its just > easier to deal than other times. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > along the way at the end of each one. If it hasn't, then that's what > memories and dreams are for. I dunno, it looked like a good poker game ante to me. I'm just tired of reading about Kyla's knees when there are so many in here that are much worse off and you'd never know it except when it gets really bad for them. Like it did for you a bit ago. I didn't know the extent of Sherry's damages until she posted them, so I wrote that I can't top them. I think there are a good few people in here who'd gladly change disabilities with Kyla. I am just tired of reading about her problems and not what she is doing to help herself or others. Maybe this sounds harsh, but if Kyla would do something for someone else, maybe her knees wouldn't hurt so darn much. Pam S. who can hear those kill files opening and closing as she writes > > Its surely not a competition. Each day is what it is. Sometimes its just > > easier to deal than other times. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Pam S. who can hear those kill files opening and closing as she writes There are a lot of people here with disabilities, a really high percentage I believe. Either disabilities, or serious health problems. And what about Suz? I just love her to death. She's *always* upbeat, cheerful (on the group anyway) and thinking about other people. Sherry There are a lot of people here with disabilities, a really high percentage I believe. Either disabilities, or serious health problems. And what about Suz? I just love her to death. She's *always* upbeat, cheerful (on the group anyway) and thinking about other people. ************************* exactly, the very person I was thinking about. We could write a long list of those with disabilities or serious health problems in here, but we don't because most people who come in here do so to be with friends an read about each other's cats. Long live Marina, Granby, Victor and others who have been posting cat stories rather than dealing with this drivel. BTW, today's personal assistant is Sonya. Who stares at my fingers dancing on the keyboard as though they are picking up greeblings as I write. I had her going the other day by calling SonJa. She hates it when I mangle her name. Pine Cone helped me yesterday and Friday's assistant was Miss Calico Girl. They take turns you know and I suspect that I need to go over the bank statement more carefully than usual this month because they are too interested in the cat sales sites again. Pam S. > There are a lot of people here with disabilities, a really high > percentage I believe. Either disabilities, or serious health problems. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Pam S. Thank you for attempting to lessen the drivel - amen - but just like the FAQs I fear it will blast in and out of certain heads. The problem is "no self control" due to whatever cause, and it isn't pain (hopitus worked on these 30 years in ERs and heartily believes about "the road to hell....". This ng now strongly resembles an ER (an invisible one). And Pam for God's sake speak for someone else, not me, who'd be happy to change disabilities, ROFLMAO. Certain regs here know what my disabilities are and they are life-threatening. Have you ever heard about them? HELL NO because there is nada wrong with my brain and this is a CAT newsgroup. I am *never* in tears. LOL. sometimes in hysterics over what some people post here including their drug habits! I am fond of you Pam and consider you carry your burdens superbly. As I posted elsewhere, rpca is a mellow group and tolerates a high level of stuff flamed out in other - yeah, even cat-oriented - ngs. > BTW, today's personal assistant is Sonya. Who stares at my fingers dancing > on the keyboard as though they are picking up greeblings as I write. Your fingers dance on the keyboard Pam? I have a deep dark secret to divulge: I type with two fingers only. Yes, my work entails typing most of the day, but I haven't learned the ten-finger system. Dance on the keyboard, my fingers do not. :) SignatureMarina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. > Your fingers dance on the keyboard Pam? I have a deep dark secret to > divulge: I type with two fingers only. Yes, my work entails typing most > of the day, but I haven't learned the ten-finger system. I manage with three- I always tell people I can't type and you can hear the unanswered question in the air "But you're a secretary?" Blagged my way into a temp job, used that to blag my way into another, been doing it for over 5 years and got my professional diploma but still waiting for the day someone spots what a fraud I am! Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs >> Your fingers dance on the keyboard Pam? I have a deep dark secret to >> divulge: I type with two fingers only. Yes, my work entails typing [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Slave of the Fabulous Furballs I often wondered how you got that job. <eg> SignatureAdrian Owned by Snoopy and Bagheera > I often wondered how you got that job. <eg> I lied....It was early 2003 and the agency that had been getting me work had loads of local government work but not in Feb or March when it nears the end of the financial year so I had had no work for 3 weeks and things were getting too tight for words and checking web sites I saw lots of work for medical secretaries and thought "I can type after a fashion and 20 years of medical bookselling means I damn well can spell the words!" So I shoved my CV to a lot of agencies and the next thing I know one of them invites me for a test, which did me loads of favours as it's all software driven unlike real audio typing where you have foot pedals. So next thing I have a job for the next week and at ten quid an hour if they throw me out by the end of the first day well that's fifty quid i.e. about a ,month of cat food and litter (I have the correct priorities!) So I walked in(funnily enough at the hospital I now work at) and said "It's been a while since I did this- remind me which foot pedal is which again?" They "reminded" me- I did not bother telling them that my entire previous audio experience had been a few weeks before when I got 4 days work doing audio at half way through the first day the employers told the agency they didn't want me because I plainly did not know what I was doing These days if I do mention it I point out it proves I can pick up instructions quickly and improvise on the spot! I got over 3 weeks on the first job and then of course it becomes easier because agencies just want to hear what you've been doing so "I just finished a 3 week stint at St Mary's" makes the next agency think you must be worth trying out so you get that job....that leads to another..and another...then someone dangles a permanent contract under your nose...and here i am 5 years later still doing the same as that "temporary work to cover me until I get back into bookselling" and still missing bookselling Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs I got over 3 weeks on the first job and then of course it becomes easier because agencies just want to hear what you've been doing so "I just finished a 3 week stint at St Mary's" makes the next agency think you must be worth trying out so you get that job....that leads to another..and another...then someone dangles a permanent contract under your nose...and here i am 5 years later still doing the same as that "temporary work to cover me until I get back into bookselling" and still missing bookselling =============================== That is too funny. I know you miss bookselling, but at least medical transcriptionist puts tuna in the bowls. I got channeled into typing class when I was in high school. My parents decided that I was too ugly to marry, too stupid to go to college, and was the perfect candidate to take care of them in their old age. They ignored the B in Geometry, As in Biology and English and the Cs in the rest of my grades, to focus on the C in typing. Needless to say, the C did pan out into typing term papers to help make ends meet when I was in college three years later. I also waited tables and checked ID cards at the cafeteria, guided students in the school's natural history museum, and was a student assistant for a music professor. It covered what wasn't by scholarships and loans and gave me enough spending loot to buy a new coat when I needed one. Pam S. > > "Jo Firey" <jofi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Whoops guess I shouldn't of posted what I just posted. I have my moments, luckily my aides don't post here. Suz&Spicey >> Its surely not a competition. Each day is what it is. Sometimes its >> just easier to deal than other times. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Pam S. who can hear those kill files opening and closing as she writes Kill file? Hell no. I don't mind at all the occasional mention of anyone's frustration dealing with whatever life throws at them. I think over the years we pretty much know where the others stand. But constant complaining makes it difficult for some of us to keep our minds off our own problems. Bring on the cute kittens and cats. They are Bast's gift. Jo > I dunno, it looked like a good poker game ante to me. I'm just tired of > reading about Kyla's knees when there are so many in here that are much > worse off and you'd never know it except when it gets really bad for them. I don't understand what the problem is, though. Maybe she just has a greater need to express her bad feelings than some other people. That doesn't mean you have to listen. You're entitled to your limits. You can always tell someone, "I've had enough, so I can't listen any more." In real life, that means ending a conversation, or asking the person to change the subject. If they respect you, they'll do that for you. If they don't, then you're entitled to hang up the phone, or decide the visit is over. And it's that much easier on the internet - all you have to do is decide not to read the posts of anyone who doesn't interest you, who annoys you, or whatever you find unpleasant. Where do people get this idea that they are forced to read everything that is posted on a newsgroup? I certainly don't. Not everything interests me and I have limited time, so I spend it on the posts I *want* to read. What you're not entitled to do, IMO, is ask someone else to stop talking about whatever it is they want or need to talk about, just because it annoys you. She's not breaking any rules here. Live and let live, you know? > I am just tired of reading about her problems and not what she is > doing to help herself or others. Maybe this sounds harsh, but if Kyla > would do something for someone else, maybe her knees wouldn't hurt so > darn much. I do think that's harsh. Maybe some other people have worse disabilities, but so what? She's dealing with what she's dealing with. I don't buy into the idea that just because someone has it worse than I do, that means I'm not entitled to my feelings or to talk about them. It just reminds me of parents saying, when their kid wouldn't finish their supper, "Stop complaining about your food, there are children starving in India." Oh, great - way to shame your children because they dared to express their feelings! > Pam S. who can hear those kill files opening and closing as she writes Killfiles are a wonderful tool - why don't you use yours? Your newsgroup reading experience will be much more enjoyable, I promise you. Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. <bastXXXette@ > tanadashoes < > > > I dunno, it looked like a good poker game ante to me. I'm just tired of > > reading about Kyla's knees when there are so many in here that are much > > worse off and you'd never know it except when it gets really bad for > > them. I know there are people here worse off than I am.. Like Charleen for instance. I know that and I am praying and purring for them. I'm sorry If I keep grousing about my knees, but dammit, they feel like they're broken 24/7 ..but I'll stop..okay? > I don't understand what the problem is, though. Maybe she just has a > greater need to express her bad feelings than some other people. Not really, well maybe, Joyce, I guess I do have a tendency to wear my heart on my sleeve. And I'm working on that, but I really asked for purrs and prayers, because well, because...never mind. *listening to cats re-arranging the kitchen* I do send heartfelt hugs and purrs to those that need them. That > doesn't mean you have to listen. You're entitled to your limits. You can > always tell someone, "I've had enough, so I can't listen any more." In > real life, that means ending a conversation, or asking the person to > change the subject. If they respect you, they'll do that for you. If they > don't, then you're entitled to hang up the phone, or decide the visit is > over. I can only imagine how many hoomins KF's I'm, but I really don't like to grouse nor complain, but I'm working on that..I really am. > And it's that much easier on the internet - all you have to do is decide > not to read the posts of anyone who doesn't interest you, who annoys you, > or whatever you find unpleasant. Where do people get this idea that they > are forced to read everything that is posted on a newsgroup? I certainly > don't. Not everything interests me and I have limited time, so I spend it > on the posts I *want* to read. Same here:) > What you're not entitled to do, IMO, is ask someone else to stop talking > about whatever it is they want or need to talk about, just because it > annoys > you. She's not breaking any rules here. Live and let live, you know? Thanks. > > I am just tired of reading about her problems and not what she is > > doing to help herself or others. Maybe this sounds harsh, but if Kyla > > would do something for someone else, maybe her knees wouldn't hurt so > > darn much. Um, I DO do lots nice of things for people. > I do think that's harsh. Maybe some other people have worse disabilities, > but so what? I know they do, Joyce, and they are in my purrs and prayers. > She's dealing with what she's dealing with. I don't buy into > the idea that just because someone has it worse than I do, that means I'm [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > great - way to shame your children because they dared to express their > feelings! There's an old saying that 'if you try and make everyone happy, no one will be happy' I do the best I can with the resources I have. I'm NOT perfect and I'm not vain enough to think everybody here likes me. <shrug> Just like IRL. > > Pam S. who can hear those kill files opening and closing as she writes Pam, before you *plonk* me, I want to again thank you for your nice reply about the' formation' of all the different cat groups, and your words of how to get along here. I'm learning, slowly. IDK if you read it or not. Okay, you can plonk me now. > Killfiles are a wonderful tool - why don't you use yours? Your newsgroup > reading experience will be much more enjoyable, I promise you. > > Joyce *blinks* Thank you for your encouraging words, Joyce, I certainly don't want to be the contention of any hissspitting here Hug Kyla --Tomorrow Will Be A Better day =^..^= > To send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. > <bastXXXette@ >> tanadashoes < [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > *listening to cats re-arranging the kitchen* > I do send heartfelt hugs and purrs to those that need them. (((((((((Kyla)))))))))) I appreciate the supportive email I've received from you about Nanki-Poo's problems, and the darling card you sent. I'm sorry you're in pain. Joy "Joy" ... > "Kyla =^..^=" >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > (((((((((Kyla)))))))))) Thank you Joy, I really needed that:) > I appreciate the supportive email I've received from you about Nanki-Poo's > problems, and the darling card you sent. I'm sorry you're in pain. > > Joy You're very welcome, and I'm glad you got the e-mails, as sometimes my pooter said it's sent but it never gets received. It has Greeblings in it. And you're welcome for the card too. I'm really concerned about Nanko-Poo and I don't care if someone gets grousy with me for putting up another post. As far as my pain goes, I'm just not gonna dwell on it and let it take over my life. And I'm gonna quit grousing about it too. I just do for them what I gotta do and go on and 'try' and be cheerful. You live up to your name..you're a Joy to be around:) <nosepoinks from Mosey to Nanki-Poo> and a HUG from me to you. Kyla "Kyla =^..^=" <kyla.waterman@comcast.net> wrote in message >> I don't understand what the problem is, though. Maybe she just has a >> greater need to express her bad feelings than some other people. > Not really, well maybe, Joyce, I guess I do have a tendency > to wear my heart on my sleeve. > And I'm working on that I was just saying that maybe this is just how you are, and there's *nothing wrong with it*. It's not like you're marching into a room and demanding that everyone drop what they're doing, and wait on you hand and foot. You've never said your problems were more important than anyone else's. You're just griping. You have a right! Anyone who can't listen to it, or doesn't want to, also has a right to tune it out if they want. We're all grownups, right? I've never understood what's so noble about suffering silently, anyway. You know how when someone's going through a serious illness, and other people will say, "She bore the pain like a perfect lady, with such dignity"? What's that supposed to mean? I guess it means that she never complained. Ugh, where do we get such masochistic (or perhaps sadistic) ideas? And who is the silent sufferer trying to impress? Hopefully not me - I'm unimpressed by stoicism. Sheesh, if you're in pain, yell! Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. <bastXXXette > "Kyla =^..^=" > >> I don't understand what the problem is, though. Maybe she just has a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > demanding that everyone drop what they're doing, and wait on you hand > and foot. Nope, I haven't, but that's what a few hoomins here think. > You've never said your problems were more important than > anyone else's. Thank you.... You're just griping. You have a right! Anyone who can't > listen to it, or doesn't want to, also has a right to tune it out if > they want. We're all grownups, right? right. > I've never understood what's so noble about suffering silently, anyway. > You know how when someone's going through a serious illness, and other [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Joyce I did yell and it scared the crap outta the cats LOL Joyce, you are such a sweetheart to say these things and I want to send you a Mosey card SO bad, but I won't insist you e-mail me your address. I offered to send Pam S one, but she said no, and I've no problem with that. Like I said before, My step Mom, my Dad's widow is named Joyce too and she's really nice, like you. You remind me a lot of her. :) Thank you again Hug Kyla remember, I tried that and it bounced higher than my reality check? > > "Kyla =^..^=" <kyla.water...@comcast.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Darn! Does this mean as the resident chick on wheels I cant call a gimp full house ;o) Suz&Spicey, who likes to hitch rides on my battery case. > > > "Kyla =^..^=" <kyla.water...@comcast.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > - Show quoted text - OK Suz, I fold :-) :-) Sherry > > > > "Kyla =^..^=" <kyla.water...@comcast.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Oh goody I'm rich :o) Suz&Spicey "Suz" On Mar 31, 12:29 pm, Sherry : > On Mar 31, 9:55 am, Suz > > On Mar 29, 9:29?pm, Sherry : [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Darn! Does this mean as the resident chick on wheels I cant call a > > gimp full house ;o) LOL > > Suz&Spicey, who likes to hitch rides on my battery case.- > > OK Suz, I fold :-) :-) > > Sherry- Oh goody I'm rich :o) Suz&Spicey Woo HOO :) Kyla > that's why I remain hopitus with a garbage-can addy Not the same but I use the work email address of a place I left a couple of years ago. It still looks valid to spam gatherers and they are welcome to dump their rubbish in a box I can't even access anymore that will never be looked at again! Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > > that's why I remain hopitus with a garbage-can addy > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Slave of the Fabulous Furballs ROFL. Cool. > I'm posting this now because I know there will be a lot of communication > about a possible meet-up of Catslaves and RPCA members. That could also [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Thanks! > MaryL I don't try to hide personal information, only because for me it would be a waste of time. But I completely understand why someone would like a little more privacy than the world in general provides. Jo MaryL <stancole1@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message: 47ee5f18$0$4041$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net, > I'm posting this now because I know there will be a lot of > communication about a possible meet-up of Catslaves and RPCA members. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I do realize that anyone who really wants information can already > find it. Count on it! SignatureBilly Colburn |
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