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My blabbermouth son mentioned to a neighbor that I might be considering going on a cruise. Well, in a 24 hour period a little less, have had seven, count them, 7 neighbor ladies at my door. Neighborly "Hear you are going on a cruise." Me: "Maybe." Neighbor: "Well since you will probably have to hire someone to go with you, I would like to be considered for the job." Me: "You don't even know the cost, why would you volunteer yet/" Neighbor: "Well, ah, as you would have to hire someone I would assume you would be picking up the cost." Me: "Well, if I were picking up the cost, you are the wrong gender." Thus ended the conversation! I can get around by myself and, once I go someplace can get back. I figure there are enough of you who know me if you saw me heading for the gangplank in the middle of the ocean you would stop me. (Then maybe NOT) Just made me madder than all get out. > My blabbermouth son mentioned to a neighbor that I might be considering > going on a cruise. Well, in a 24 hour period a little less, have had seven, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Just made me madder than all get out. Here's a boating tip from someone born and raised in Miami (major boating year round place)....there is only one thing I can think of worse than being out in a boat with someone you can't stand: being in a plane sitting next to them (but the boat trip may be longer, LOL.)This is the voice of experience here. 7 ladies??? The Nerve of some people :/ Geeeeeez louise Hug Kyla who would love to go on a cruise with you, but I'm the wrong gender too. LOL...guess you told them <G> "Granby" > My blabbermouth son mentioned to a neighbor that I might be considering > going on a cruise. Well, in a 24 hour period a little less, have had [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Just made me madder than all get out. I only said the gender thing because I was mad. I have several good friends who would be willing to go with me. I was mad because these were the same women who had made me feel less than human. I wouldn't go with the men they tried to throw at me. I didn't dress as they do in the sweat pants and such. The ones who swore I was, never mind, you get the idea. They just made me feel all things I had fought for all my life in fact, to do for myself were useless. >7 ladies??? > The Nerve of some people :/ [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> >> Just made me madder than all get out. The VERY idea!!! How dare they??? I don't blame you for being hissed off :/ Lookin for a free trip on a cruise ship...pftt ! Some 'neighbors, huh?' Hug Kyla "Granby" >I only said the gender thing because I was mad. I have several good >friends who would be willing to go with me. I was mad because these were [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >>> >>> Just made me madder than all get out. >> 7 ladies??? >> The Nerve of some people :/ [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > They just made me feel all things I had fought for all my life in > fact, to do for myself were useless. Now I am getting serious! Dunno what I'll have to do to get there, but Granby, I reckon if I was there we could put on such a show that no one and I mean no-one would dare bad mouth you again. Yowie <scheming furiously> Ahhh wouldn't make a diference anyway, they have to have someone to bad mouth. With 25 houses in town, and most of them having roots here, they got to pick on someone. I just have to learn not to let them get to me. Or, as some suggest, learn to have fun with it. I always thing of things I should have done, said later when it is too late. >>> 7 ladies??? >>> The Nerve of some people :/ [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > Yowie > <scheming furiously> Well then, my dear, write down your 'comebacks' when you think of them, then you'll be 'armed for next time. That's what I do. You handle things really gudgud IMO. <G> Hug Kyla *Looks down and waves hi to Yowie* "Granby" > Ahhh wouldn't make a diference anyway, they have to have someone to bad > mouth. With 25 houses in town, and most of them having roots here, they > got to pick on someone. I just have to learn not to let them get to me. [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] >> Yowie >> <scheming furiously> > I only said the gender thing because I was mad. I have several good friends > who would be willing to go with me. I was mad because these were the same > women who had made me feel less than human. I wouldn't go with the men they > tried to throw at me. I didn't dress as they do in the sweat pants and > such. The ones who swore I was, never mind, you get the idea. I seem to remember this. They sound like a bunch of nasty busy-bodies. Maybe you should've told them you *were* "never mind, you get the idea". (Is that the new euphemism, LOL?) They certainly would've stopped throwing men at you. (Amusing image. :)) But I must ask, what is wrong with wearing sweats, *all the time*, if one wants to? I think that at a certain age, one is entitled to comfort 24/7. :) (I think we're all entitled to dress comfortably regardless of age, but one does need to make compromises when dealing with the work world, etc. One of the luxuries of retirement, I'd think, is that this is no longer necessary.) > They just made me feel all things I had fought for all my life in fact, > to do for myself were useless. You know, it's just about time to clean my guys' litterboxes... I could send along the offerings if you'd like. :) Joyce > > I only said the gender thing because I was mad. I have several good > > friends [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Joyce OK, guys. Enough with complaining about sweats. I'm still in my PJ's and I suppose it really is time to get dressed if I plan to today. We won't get into how often at bedtime I just get a shower and change into clean PJ's Jo > <bastXXXette@sonic.net> wrote in message >> But I must ask, what is wrong with wearing sweats, *all the time*, if >> one wants to? I think that at a certain age, one is entitled to comfort [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> One of the luxuries of retirement, I'd think, is that this is no longer >> necessary.) > OK, guys. Enough with complaining about sweats. I'm still in my PJ's and I > suppose it really is time to get dressed if I plan to today. We won't get > into how often at bedtime I just get a shower and change into clean PJ's Hey, wait - I'm not the one complaining about sweats! I'm defending them! Joyce - still in mine, too.  SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. there isn't one single thing wrong with them if that is what you want to wear, it becomes a problem when the rest of the town looks at you funny because you choose to wear something else, Lee, ... who ate dinner at the diner with Gramby and overheard the lady behind her whisper... see even her friends over dress... I had on a twelve dollar jeans skirt from Wal-Mart, a sleeveless tank, a jeans jacket and flip flops with no panty hose... I was amazed > > <bastXXXette@sonic.net> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > -- > To send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. > there isn't one single thing wrong with them if that is what you want to > wear, it becomes a problem when the rest of the town looks at you funny [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > amazed > < I know about American small towns, and I'm still amazed. Stepford is alive and well I guess. Its pretty normal for girls at about twelve or thirteen for form small groups that must compare notes every morning before they get dressed for school. This is usually cured by envy of those who can dress themselves, 8 AM classes in college, or small children. Jo I have decided I like to dress "girlie" as my 78 year old Aunt calls it. I like nails done, makeup even if I am not going anywhere. For years, because of being a caretaker I didn't have time for these things and, they could get in the way of what I had to do. Now I like it and those around me who don't can just....well, whatever it is people do who need to keep their noses behind their curtains. >> there isn't one single thing wrong with them if that is what you want to >> wear, it becomes a problem when the rest of the town looks at you funny [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Jo speaking of nails, wait until you call me next time, Lee > I have decided I like to dress "girlie" as my 78 year old Aunt calls it. I > like nails done, makeup even if I am not going anywhere. For years, because [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > Jo Good Lord, what have you done now. Will call. > speaking of nails, wait until you call me next time, Lee >> I have decided I like to dress "girlie" as my 78 year old Aunt calls it. [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> > >> > Jo yes and not one of these women according to my DH should be wearing sweats for the reasons, Lee > > there isn't one single thing wrong with them if that is what you want to > > wear, it becomes a problem when the rest of the town looks at you funny [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Jo > there isn't one single thing wrong with them if that is what you want to > wear, it becomes a problem when the rest of the town looks at you funny [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > sleeveless tank, a jeans jacket and flip flops with no panty hose... I was > amazed I can't imagine having a head so empty my only topic of conversation would involve my neighbor's fashion choices (or those of her friends)! Right you are on that one sweetie:) I mean, who cares how you're dressed? You'll probably never run into these cretins again anyway. That's the way I look at it. Altho I hate Wal Mart, they have some great bargains Sounds like you have some decent weather there:) Glad you got together for dinner with Granby:) Hug Kyla "Stormmee" > there isn't one single thing wrong with them if that is what you want to > wear, it becomes a problem when the rest of the town looks at you funny [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > sleeveless tank, a jeans jacket and flip flops with no panty hose... I was > amazed > <bastXXXette >> Jo Firey >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >> -- >> To send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. On Mar 29, 3:05 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > > I only said the gender thing because I was mad. I have several good friends > > who would be willing to go with me. I was mad because these were the same [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Joyce Living in close proximity to San Francisco, which was the first city I saw where the populace dressed "to the teeth" as they say...not to mention "fashionista" status, you'd think sweats were formal attire if you could see what is worn here. Backpack is "de rigere" (c'mon Evelyn, French word that means "a *must*) jeans and ratty flannel shirts, plus sneakers. Downtown where the working people are seen, it's Trench Coat Mafia (remember them?) long always black heavy coats and/or suits. I think Granby's little Stepford group wears *spotless* sweats, probably ironed, and *spotless* tennies kinda like what one sees riding in golf carts. I could very well be wrong with this assumption.And Joyce, it's not about comfort where Granby describes it is a *uniform*. Actually, they *do* sound stupid enough to have a lot of fun with.....but I'd not be staying there very long. > Living in close proximity to San Francisco, which was the first city I > saw > where the populace dressed "to the teeth" as they say...not to mention > "fashionista" status, you'd think sweats were formal attire if you > could see what is worn here. You must have lived in a different part of San Francisco. :) It's true, people do have a certain sense of style here, but it's not the traditional one. But casual dress is pretty "normal" around here, if anything could be said to be normal. > Backpack is "de rigere" (c'mon Evelyn, French word > that means "a *must*) jeans and ratty flannel shirts, plus sneakers. Question: do you actually live in a town called MileHigh? Or is that a nickname for Denver, or Boulder? Joyce On Mar 29, 3:43 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > > Living in close proximity to San Francisco, which was the first city I > > saw [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Joyce My bus to the City to visit my friends who lived in a flat right off Market (isn't that the Wall St. of S.F.?) usually deposited me in a dazzling array of the latest female fashion on the bodies of the locals working there. I of course had come up from Sunnyvale, down the Peninsula nearer to San Jose. My dead body would be living in Boulder - abundance of hippie (yeah! they live!) residents and panhandling bums at the outdoor mall there. My relatives *love* Boulder so it must be me..... MileHigh or "5280" is the moniker stuck on pretty much everything in this area...Denver proper plus all its 'burbs. There are panhandling bums here but not many hippies at all. > My bus to the City to visit my friends who lived in a flat > right off Market (isn't that the Wall St. of S.F.?) usually > deposited me in a dazzling array of the latest female > fashion on the bodies of the locals working there. I of > course had come up from Sunnyvale, down the Peninsula > nearer to San Jose. Oh, I think we must have talked about this before, but I also used to live in Sunnyvale. ("Sunnyvale"... is it a city? Is it a nursing home? Is it a private psychiatric hospital? LOL.) > My dead body would be living in Boulder - abundance of hippie > (yeah! they live!) residents and panhandling bums at the outdoor > mall there. Hey! Whatchoo sayin' about hippies?? I'm a former hippie myself, and while you'd never know it to look at me, I still have a lot of those values. The peace and love and equality stuff, anyway. Not the "don't wash or earn money" part. :) I've always thought Boulder would be a great place to live, culturally speaking, but I don't think I'd like the winters or the altitude. (I can feel changes in altitude even at Lake Tahoe, which is about the same as Denver - 5000 feet or so. Not sure how high Boulder is, though.) Also, I read a great book about Boulder's wildlife problems a few years ago, called "The Beast in the Garden" or something like that. About how people love to have wildlife in their yard, like deer munching on their grass... except for one problem, which was that where the prey go, the predators will follow... and suddenly people had mountain lions in their back yards. > MileHigh or "5280" is the moniker stuck on pretty much > everything in this area...Denver proper plus all its 'burbs. Guess I never heard that term, but since I also have never heard of an actual city called MileHigh, I assumed it must be a nickname... Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. On Mar 29, 4:25 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > > My bus to the City to visit my friends who lived in a flat > > right off Market (isn't that the Wall St. of S.F.?) usually [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Guess I never heard that term, but since I also have never heard of > an actual city called MileHigh, I assumed it must be a nickname... VERY LONG 1. LOL Sunnyvale is a residential 'burb of San Jose. More for your rental $...warmer...palm trees.....laid back as usual..swimming pools. No, the psych hospital is MileHigh. Total cowtown mentality. 2. Bottom line is this: you aren't a hippie anymore. You not only wash, you work. 3. Boulder's weather sucks even more than here on the flatlands. It is in what is locally called "the foothills" (beginning of Rockies). They get all the bad weather the mountains gets. We don't. Reason very few old people here: they can't breathe. If you ever smoked you are b****-slapped with that fact as soon as you hop off the plane at DIA.(choke...cough)There are tons of people - strangely, not all of them old - strolling around here dragging those portable O2 units attached to their noses with plastic tubing. I am short of breath only on exertion (running, etc.) 4. If the Beast in the Garden lives in Boulder, it probably has its paw out for a handout and wearing a sign that says, "help the unemployed". Seriously, mountain lions invade the 'burbs even here...rarely do they get to eat anyone as the savvy natives either scare them off or call the cops, who, aided by wildlife gendarmes, usually manage to trap the critter and stick it back in the woods where it came from. Rarely do they kill one. 5. Leading to a pet peeve I have - 2 nights ago (evening, actually) we spotted 3 coyotes sneaking around in the large open space next to wear I live. My cats do not ever go out, but some neighbors let theirs. Coyotes, not mountain lions, are the usual predators that eat pet cats and dogs unlucky enough to be outside and handy to the coyotes. I personally don't understand why the d*** coyotes don't freeze to death in the winters hrere, but something strange goes on in this area...everything "goes to sleep" - even the grass - all winter and revives about now. This is very strange to a former Floridian and would guess to Californians too. > VERY LONG > 1. LOL Sunnyvale is a residential 'burb of San Jose. More for your > rental $...warmer...palm trees.....laid back as usual..swimming pools. Yep, I lived in an apartment complex with nice landscaping and a pool. One nice thing that set this place apart was that they allowed cats. So because of that, almost everyone who lived there had a cat - it was one of the few places we *could* live. The building manager (who lived in one of the apartments) *loved* cats and had 2 of her own. One of them liked to bask in the sun by the poolside, LOL. He was a big black cat and very friendly. Some of the other people let their cats go outside, too, so we usually had a few friendly felines to hang out with in the courtyard. > 2. Bottom line is this: you aren't a hippie anymore. You not only > wash, you work. Tell you the truth, I always washed and worked. :) So maybe I was a hippie wannabe. I just liked a lot of the countercultural values, so I kind of considered myself one of them, even if I didn't bum around and smoke dope all day. When it comes to things like drugs, I'm a total bore these days. Don't take any drugs except those prescribed by the shrink. :) > Reason very few old people here: they can't breathe. If you ever > smoked you are b****-slapped with that fact as soon as you hop [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > attached to their noses with plastic tubing. I am short of breath only > on exertion (running, etc.) Wow, even at only a mile high? I'll notice some change at that elevation, but nothing really drastic. Several years ago I went to Tahoe for the first time and on the first day, I felt kind of queasy and nauseated. Thought I was coming down with something, or maybe ate something that wasn't quite right, but then it went away, and I realized it was just a reaction to less oxygen. > Seriously, mountain lions invade the 'burbs even here...rarely do they > get to eat anyone as the savvy natives either scare them off or call > the cops, who, aided by wildlife gendarmes, usually manage to trap > the critter and stick it back in the woods where it came from. Rarely > do they kill one. Well, that was the issue in Boulder - people were *not* savvy about it. A lot of Boulder residents are apparently newcomers, unlike Denverites who have probably been there for generations. So people didn't realize that you have to make the lion afraid of you, or else they will eventually feel perfectly at ease about wandering into your living space. And, eventually, one of them will figure out that you're good to eat. The big problem in Boulder was that the mountain lions were getting habituated to humans. There was no longer a bounty on them, in fact they were encouraged to reproduce and make a comeback in the area. So they stopped running off at the first sign of a human. The author of the book is some sort of ecology expert, or zoologist, or something - who understands how animals interact together - and was quite alarmed at how comfortable the mountain lions seemed to be around humans. The animal control dept. in Boulder did absolutely nothing about it, until finally a man was attacked and killed, and treated like prey (dragged off to a hiding spot, hidden under dirt and leaves, part of his body missing, etc). In spite of all this, I would really love to see a mountain lion up close. Um, that is, with something protective in between me and it. :) I am, of course, afraid of them (and we do have them around here), but at the same time I think they are among the most beautiful animals on earth. Joyce SignatureTo send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name. bastXXXette@sonic.net kirjoitti: > > MileHigh or "5280" is the moniker stuck on pretty much > > everything in this area...Denver proper plus all its 'burbs. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Joyce MileHigh comes from the fact that Denver is one mile from sea level... Copy from Wikipedia: Denver is nicknamed the Mile-High City because its official elevation is exactly one mile (5280 feet or 1609.344 m) above sea level. SignatureChristine in Laitila, Finland christal63 (at) gmail (dot) com photos: http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/bb108/christal63/ photos: http://community.webshots.com/user/chkr63 Hi Christine. I can't remember...are you the one with the baby moose? I think I have the right hoomin here:) I just love that video, and with your child riding. ROTF It is a wonderfully funny video. What was the moosey watching on TV? I showed it to our friend over the week-end.. twice and he was so LOL'd...it snapped him out of his depressive state, a long with the kitty chasing the snow Greeblings, Marnia's IIRC. I am so bad with names :/ Anyway, thank you both for some really funny videos:) Kyla --who thinks you both should submit these to World's Funniest Animals "Christine K." > bastXXXette@sonic.net kirjoitti: >> > MileHigh or "5280" is the moniker stuck on pretty much [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Denver is nicknamed the Mile-High City because its official elevation is > exactly one mile (5280 feet or 1609.344 m) above sea level. <bastXXXette > hopitus <> > > My dead body would be living in Boulder - abundance of hippie > > (yeah! they live!) residents and panhandling bums at the outdoor > > mall there. They have an outdoor mall in Boulder now?? > Hey! Whatchoo sayin' about hippies?? I'm a former hippie myself, > and while you'd never know it to look at me, I still have a lot of > those values. The peace and love and equality stuff, anyway. Not the > "don't wash or earn money" part. :) Right ON!, Peace and all that good stuff ;) > I've always thought Boulder would be a great place to live, culturally > speaking, but I don't think I'd like the winters or the altitude. (I can > feel changes in altitude even at Lake Tahoe, which is about the same as > Denver - 5000 feet or so. Not sure how high Boulder is, though.) Denver is 5280 feet tall, thus it's called the Mile High City. I don't know the origin of the name of Boulder tho. Named after a big rock...why? I was born n raised in Denver > Also, I read a great book about Boulder's wildlife problems a few > years ago, called "The Beast in the Garden" or something like that. > About how people love to have wildlife in their yard, like deer > munching on their grass... except for one problem, which was that > where the prey go, the predators will follow... and suddenly people > had mountain lions in their back yards. Yup, stuff like that happens when you take the natural habitat :( > > MileHigh or "5280" is the moniker stuck on pretty much > > everything in this area...Denver proper plus all its 'burbs Hmm, since when? I lived in Denver from 1945-1976 and never heard that particualr 'moniker' used. I can remember every phone # we had since I was 4 :p > Guess I never heard that term, but since I also have never heard of > an actual city called MileHigh, I assumed it must be a nickname > > Joyce And kind of dumb one IMO. Well, there IS a Denver, Texas, so people might get confoozled. But is there another Seattle anywhere? Nope:) We're unique. Pretty laid back, for the most part. We live, in one of the 'blurbs' The dress code? we don't have one.. Everybody wears flannel & jeans. I was designing a line of eveningwear made of flannel and sequins <G> Grunge rock was born in Seattle. I love it here:) Sure it rains over 160 days a year, so? We have annual umbrella festivel called Bumpershoot. Coffee is a Food Group here. We make Starbucks, Tully's, Seattle's Best.... Seattle also has the World's largest clam, the 'gooeyduck' I don't really like clams, I've always gotten sand in my Chowder. hmmm, IDK how this will appear on the other end, but I just copied and pasted a thingy about the clam, and links to Seattle :) -------Article in the paper*---------------------holds breath, ---it has some links in it, and I don't want to post it is it'll screw it up WOO HOo I got rid of the picture of the thing <G> ahem about Seattle...it's thundering out as I'm typing... ***************enjoy your visit********************** One of the first things that strikes you when you visit Seattle is the sheer physical beauty of the place. The city finds itself in the rare situation of being surrounded by water and by mountains to the east and to the west. Its most startling geographic feature, though, is Mt. Rainier, which towers over the city to the south. *Kyla adds, it's a dormant volcano I can see *from my window.it blows, we're toast;) The natural bounty is also evident in the city’s cuisine. Take, for example, the geoduck clam, which grows only in Puget Sound. It has the distinction of being the largest clam in the world – it generally weighs about 2 pounds and the biggest have weighed in at more than 7 pounds. It's also one nasty looking creature, the Lyle Alzado of the shellfish world. That’s a picture of it right there. The State of Washington’s website also claims it's one of the longest-living animals on the planet: it can reportedly live up to 146 years. The folks at Pure Food Fish Market, part of Seattle’s iconic Pike Place Market, turn the meaty geoduck into a spectacular clam fritter. Here’s the recipe below, courtesy of the Pike Place Public Market Seafood Cookbook. They’re real easy to whip up on the back of your truck before the game. If you can’t get out to Qwest Field – it’s a beautiful place, like the city of Seattle itself – you can order geoducks from Pure Food Fish Market and they’ll ship the ugly bastards to you. ------------------end of article.....tear here...................................... Anyway, that's the artickle and the links and damn, that lightening was close..we live by a lake. sam, if you're reading this...it's thundering, did you hear that? God's bowling again. ;) Kyla and Cats who don't like the thunder neither My grandmother told me never to put scissors in a windowsill during a lightening storm, because you'd get hit! yeesh, it just hailed and got really dark..... for those waatching....weather draaaaaama <EG> Miz Clinton was campaigning in Terre Haute the other day and a neighbor stopped to see if I wanted to go with her. After my not too polite answer I suddenly realized what she was wearing to a reception type thing. Red sweat top and pants with corresponding white stripe on both. My kids say it is an age thing and I don't mean of offend anyone who does the *comfort* thing and, yeah, I guess it is an age thing. Ahh well, such is life. Of cores, anyone who wore them from this group would have them appropriately "catfur" marked and that would make it ok. > On Mar 29, 3:05 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > lot of > fun with.....but I'd not be staying there very long. > Miz Clinton was campaigning in Terre Haute the other day and a neighbor > stopped to see if I wanted to go with her. After my not too polite answer I [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > > lot of > > fun with.....but I'd not be staying there very long. I have a feeling Ms. Clinton would not bat an eye if your locals showed up at her reception in string bikinis with slip-on grills glinting in the Indiana sun, no matter how old they were, as long as they looked old enough to cast a vote. She was here recently....and I was sitting in a restaurant a] few steps from where McCain was chowing down to raise funds for his campaign at $1000 a plate dinner - this was day before yesterday. My friends who own the place where I was eating are female and when I asked them if they were looking forward to feeding masses of "Dems this summer, they LOL and said what they were hoping for is to have some cute Secret Service agents feasting at their place. I roared and said I think that might be a good possibility then! > I have a feeling Ms. Clinton would not bat an eye if your locals > showed up [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > some cute Secret Service agents feasting at their place. I roared and > said I think that might be a good possibility then! Obama lost a lot of votes at our local community college a couple of weeks ago. Usually, presidential candidates are already selected before the primaries get around to Washington, Idaho and here in North Carolina. So we don't see any campaigning until after the conventions. Well, it looks like North Carolina is an important state this election. So Bill has visited Carey NC, which has few people who live on less than $100,000/year. Obama came down and had a controlled get together at FTCC with 150 of his closest local friends. We're supposed to get even more visits from the candidates. What the students at the college cared about is that the Obama campaign took over the student union building, the student parking lot, and access to all of the buildings where their classes were being held. Secret service agents were everywhere. Snipers were on the roof aiming their rifles at the kids, and Obama not only couldn't care less, his message wasn't worth reporting anywhere but in the local paper. What a waste of time and money. Pam S. who doesn't like any of the candidates Not to sound like the fashion police but with Miz Clintons vast wardrobe of "pant suits" she wouldn't notice the sweats at all. >> Miz Clinton was campaigning in Terre Haute the other day and a neighbor >> stopped to see if I wanted to go with her. After my not too polite [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > some cute Secret Service agents feasting at their place. I roared and > said I think that might be a good possibility then! > Not to sound like the fashion police but with Miz Clintons vast wardrobe of > "pant suits" she wouldn't notice the sweats at all."hopitus" <hopi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message You have a perfect right to play fashion cop. Ms. Clinton has awful taste in clothes, her hubby has awful taste in skanky girlfriends, Obama has awful taste in wives, and his DW has awful taste in public relations advisors.McCain looks older than he is and even worse is endorsed by He Who Rules in the White Dwelling. I'm with Pam...none of the above. That about covers it all I would say. >> Not to sound like the fashion police but with Miz Clintons vast wardrobe >> of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > is endorsed by He Who > Rules in the White Dwelling. I'm with Pam...none of the above. I think I read somewhere that Nevada has NOTA on their ballots > > Not to sound like the fashion police but with Miz Clintons vast wardrobe of > > "pant suits" she wouldn't notice the sweats at all."hopitus" <hopi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > is endorsed by He Who > Rules in the White Dwelling. I'm with Pam...none of the above. >> Not to sound like the fashion police but with Miz Clintons vast wardrobe of >> "pant suits" she wouldn't notice the sweats at all."hopitus" <hopi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > is endorsed by He Who > Rules in the White Dwelling. I'm with Pam...none of the above. What would you suggest? A second American Revolution doesn't seem terribly practical. (That's what "free elections" are supposed to supplant!) On Mar 30, 4:03 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Not to sound like the fashion police but with Miz Clintons vast wardrobe of > >> "pant suits" she wouldn't notice the sweats at all."hopitus" <hopi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > terribly practical. (That's what "free elections" are supposed to > supplant!) I just hope for the best. Anything should be an improvement of some kind. I finally had to decide to do my own thing, as the kids say, and let life play out around me. Even if I could change people, I would probably mess that up so let them be. Think about the cruise to come and plan for that. > On Mar 30, 4:03 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" > <evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I just hope for the best. Anything should be an improvement of some > kind. Good attitude Granby:) When is your cruise? I hope you have a blast :) Hug Kyla "Granby" <> I finally had to decide to do my own thing, as the kids say, and let life > play out around me. Even if I could change people, I would probably mess > that up so let them be. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> I just hope for the best. Anything should be an improvement of some >> kind. > Miz Clinton was campaigning in Terre Haute the other day and a neighbor > stopped to see if I wanted to go with her. After my not too polite answer I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > anyone who wore them from this group would have them appropriately "catfur" > marked and that would make it ok. I'm reminded of the Siamese aficionado who wrote a book about them. She told her readers that almost her entire wardrobe was in shades of pale beige. She knew the color was NOT particularly flattering to her, but at least it didn't show the Siamese fur quite so prominently! The problem I have with "sweats" is around here, that is all they wear. To Church, to funerals to weddings. If they didn't have that white stripe down the side maybe is wouldn't irritate me so much. I don't usually care what others do. Really if that is your thing it is just that sometimes even jeans would do > > I only said the gender thing because I was mad. I have several good > > friends [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Joyce > My blabbermouth son mentioned to a neighbor that I might be considering > going on a cruise. Well, in a 24 hour period a little less, have had seven, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Just made me madder than all get out. Hey, from what you relate about these "neighbors" I would've been mad too. But considering the source, as they say, I would have had a lot more fun with them. If they are stupid enough I might have been able to make each one believe *she* was the chosen one, sworn to secrecy from the others, and have them all packed up and hot to go while I left in middle of night with friend. But....you are probably a much sweeter person than me and would never think up such a scheme, huh? Then again, you might really care what they think of you....I am positive rpca friends would take you under their wings on the cruise and see to it you have a good time. I just lived through a lecture from Lee about how I missed the boat on how much fun I could have had with this. Almost word for word what you said. She will love this post!!! >> My blabbermouth son mentioned to a neighbor that I might be considering >> going on a cruise. Well, in a 24 hour period a little less, have had [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > wings on > the cruise and see to it you have a good time. I do love it, and it is right on the money, Lee > I just lived through a lecture from Lee about how I missed the boat on how > much fun I could have had with this. Almost word for word what you said. [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > wings on > > the cruise and see to it you have a good time. she is much nicer than is probably right, she does NOT care what they think, I love your idea, and it was far less vulgar than what I told her to say, Lee > > My blabbermouth son mentioned to a neighbor that I might be considering > > going on a cruise. Well, in a 24 hour period a little less, have had seven, [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > wings on > the cruise and see to it you have a good time. But Lee, you remember when I got my long hair cut very short, too short actually but it will grow. The two ladies who work where I do pick me up on their way to work.. Remember the gossip then because they only saw me leave with women. Life can be funny especially as you look back on it. > she is much nicer than is probably right, she does NOT care what they > think, [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >> wings on >> the cruise and see to it you have a good time. yes I remember that is why we need youwie to visit you, Lee > But Lee, you remember when I got my long hair cut very short, too short > actually but it will grow. The two ladies who work where I do pick me up on [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Lee > > hopitus <hopitus@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:67337eeb-6851-4cc8-9017-95c675055d57@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > >> > My blabbermouth son mentioned to a neighbor that I might be considering > >> > going on a cruise. Well, in a 24 hour period a little less, have had [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > >> wings on > >> the cruise and see to it you have a good time. > My blabbermouth son mentioned to a neighbor that I might be considering > going on a cruise. Well, in a 24 hour period a little less, have had [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Just made me madder than all get out. This would be funny if it weren't such a sad commentary on those trying to get something for nothing. While I didn't notice anyone with vision problems on our last cruise, there were plenty of guests with mobility issues. I would think a cruise ship could be ideal for someone with limited vision. Once you get the hang of it, everything pretty much stays put for your whole vacation. I did pass on my sleeping medication for the duration. I sleep walk sometimes when I'm taking it, and an ocean balcony didn't seem a good mix with that. Then again I sleep well on a cruise anyway, Jo You got it right. Of all the vacations that seems to be the easiest. The most I might is move their furniture around a bit. Doesn't seem a problem for me, just these stupid people. I would like to see how they would pack, all new sweat suits and white tennis shoes! There is nothing wrong with these clothes but---when that is all you wear----ever! >> My blabbermouth son mentioned to a neighbor that I might be considering >> going on a cruise. Well, in a 24 hour period a little less, have had [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Jo > > My blabbermouth son mentioned to a neighbor that I might be considering > > going on a cruise. Well, in a 24 hour period a little less, have had [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Jo VERY LONG It's almost 11pm here in MileHigh and if you would like to read a ghost story, this is a true one and I can prove it, but it is a ghost ship, not a hoomin....... after you read this post, go to link http://ca.video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=161089 In 1965, a small by today's standards cruise ship named Yarmouth Castle sailed from NY to Carribean waters, plus it also did long weekend cruises when docked in my hometown, Miami....my best pal and I went on one of its weekend voyages. We had the cheapest cabin they offered....about the size of today's walkin closet two bunk-type narrow beds right next to the ship's boiler room and hot as hell. We were young and could care less. No lifeboat drill, no lifevest storage and use instructions for us. On the second evening, bad weather hit with vengeance....we were fine. On deck my friend, who had a bad post-polio right leg, was having a hell of a time keeping her footing, as the ship was rolling (side-to- side...another sickening motion is called "pitching", which is front-to-back rocking) so we decided to go to the dining room, where all seats/tables were "assigned" and they had 3 separate seatings for dinner. All around us passengers were turning green! When we looked out the porthole of our table for two by the outside view, the horizen rocked up and down in an awful motion. We were fine. Passengers were running out of the diining room, seasick, and soon we two were the only diners in there. Here is the funny part: the main course was *lobster*, broiled to perfection (of course it was not Maine but Florida lobster - far inferior to Maine - but do you think we cared? Naaaaahh. Since we were fine and no other diners sat for our sitting, the Hispanic waiters just kept bringing us lobsters that would have been served to others....we ate till we could hold no more! We had out plates and tableware fly off the table, crashing to the floor, more than once, but the waiters just fixed us up again with more. At last we staggered out into the "lounge" where the ship entertainers were valiantly attempting to sing/joke/play piano, but the soft chairs and sofas were filled with seasick folks and we got tired of that scene...we were still fine but stuffed full of lobster and rich desserts. We went back to our tiny cabin and to bed...I was top bunk and fastened the guard mesh cloth thing over myself as the rocking was so bad I could have been thrown out of bed by morning. The next morning all was calm again and we ate a great breakfast almost alone again as the seasick majority evidently could not make it down to eat. Our destination was Nassau, Bahamas, right smack in middle of what is known in the area as the Bermuda Triangle...maybe you've heard of it. People, ships, and also planes have disappeared and never been seen again in this triangular area of waters.....we were less than thrilled with Nassau but since it was another country we explored and enjoyed ourselves, evenually docking back in Miami at the ship's base. You can see a pic of our type cabin - the one with the two bunkbeds - early in this video. Now the ghostly part - this ship burned to the water line and sank killing many people ONE WEEK LATER. My friend and I always figured our number just was not up when we took our short cruise. This event changed the shipping rules for safety factors and changed the ability to "register" your ship in a foreign country to avoid lawsuits from injured or worse passengers. Hope you weren't bored here...it's all true. Check the video link. >> My blabbermouth son mentioned to a neighbor that I might be considering >> going on a cruise. Well, in a 24 hour period a little less, have had [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Once you get the hang of it, everything pretty much stays put for your whole > vacation. Also, a cruise ship DOES have trained staff - trained to offer assistance to passengers with disabilities without making them feel they are something less than human! People can overcome all sorts of SEVERE disabilities to lead very successful (and "normal" lives) - something your "sympathetic" neighbors may not consider. One of the finest classical singers alive today is a German bass-baritone named Thomas Quasthoff. He was a Thalidomide baby, with the usual physical limitations that presents. His mother raised him to be independent - he has insisted upon "making it" as a singer WITHOUT capitalizing on his handicap, and has succeeded admirably. Many people who have only heard him in recordings but haven't followed his career are surprised when he comes onstage for a concert. It's true he would be rather limited in the roles he could sing, were he to choose to sing opera. (He refused several offers of "Rigoletto", because he felt the offers were based more upon his physical handicap than his singing ability.) Every once in a while, "Sixty Minutes" repeats a segment that featured him. I'm not sure whether he lives alone, but he certainly seems to manage most normal household tasks - they even showed him washing dishes on his own. I imagine it is much more difficult to adapt to physical limitations if they occur later in life, but he was BORN without arms, and only rudimentary legs - he manages just FINE with hands that start at his shoulders, and walks well enough to get on and off stage with no problem, even though he sits on a high stool by the piano or conductor, instead of standing, as singers usually do. . I imagine it is much more difficult to adapt to physical >limitations if they occur later in life, but he was BORN without arms, It is harder to adapt later in life. Dave was born with most of his lower arms, hands and fingers missing and he says he's never known any different but he couldn't imagine trying to learn to do what he does if he had been able to do things differently before Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs > � I imagine it is much more difficult to adapt to physical > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > -- > Message posted viahttp://www.catkb.com I can relate to Dave, "normal" would be a big adjustment. Joyce, Charleen and Tak know what I mean. Suz&Spicey > My blabbermouth son mentioned to a neighbor that I might be considering > going on a cruise. Well, in a 24 hour period a little less, have had > seven, count them, 7 neighbor ladies at my door. I already offered free of charge to be your seeing eye person. Tell them you're already taken. Pam S. Thank you Pam. We will have to get you a vet appointment soon!! >> My blabbermouth son mentioned to a neighbor that I might be considering >> going on a cruise. Well, in a 24 hour period a little less, have had [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Pam S. Now I suppose you will want the folding water bowl you gave us for kissamouse back for the trip, Lee > Thank you Pam. We will have to get you a vet appointment soon!! > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > Pam S. Noooo. If I am going to have a guide dog/person, I will get them their own new bowl. Pam had actually said guide person but, so often in our world, the word guide is most often followed by dog that it wasn't until I made the remark about the vet that I realized what I had done. She laughed about it, thank goodness. > Now I suppose you will want the folding water bowl you gave us for > kissamouse back for the trip, Lee [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> > >> > Pam S. > Thank you Pam. We will have to get you a vet appointment soon!! WOOF!! WOOF!! Don't need no stinkin TED appointment, I'se already been spayed. And I has my shots. Pam S. Yo Ho a cheap date! And, you got your own passport> >> Thank you Pam. We will have to get you a vet appointment soon!! > > WOOF!! WOOF!! Don't need no stinkin TED appointment, I'se already been > spayed. And I has my shots. > > Pam S. > My blabbermouth son mentioned to a neighbor that I might be > considering going on a cruise. Well, in a 24 hour period a little [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Just made me madder than all get out. Oh My God. I don't blame you a bit for being mad. How very presumptuous! And (am I right?) this same neighbor has never offered to help you "get around" before. Jill Now that you mention it, not once. I am used to these people. I have always heard that once you are a widow women change toward you. More protective of "useless" spouses and the like. Well girls, it is true. Come on, I am old enough and self sufficient enough I don't want to take on another project. I am not saying if someone "special" came along, I wouldn't be pleased as all get out. However, by the time you get where I am, you know Cinderella has lost more than her slipper and Prince Charming would rather watch football than run around the countryside. As I say, it is what it is. >> My blabbermouth son mentioned to a neighbor that I might be >> considering going on a cruise. Well, in a 24 hour period a little [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Jill > Now that you mention it, not once. I am used to these people. I have > always heard that once you are a widow women change toward you. More [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > would rather watch football than run around the countryside. As I say, it > is what it is. I noticed that whenever we were on or near a base when Rob was sent overseas on a non accompanied tour. The neighbor females that I once thought were my friends would act as though I had AIDS and wanted them to drink my blood. I still had/have a husband and no interest in theirs, but you wouldn't know it by them. The same bum that they whined about doing nothing but watching TV and wanting sex without romance suddenly became the most precious commodity ever spawned by an unsuspecting mother. Personally, I still thought of them as pond scum myself and would rather have Rob home than deal with their issues. Funnily enough, I have a neighbor that I really like. However, she spends a good part of her time whining about how a neighbor across the street mows her lawn in her bikini and tries to lure men away. The neighbor does mow her lawn in her two piece bathing suit, but this woman is nothing to write home about. I caught Rob standing in the yard staring at this woman last year, and I asked him why. He said that he was wondering why this woman bothered to run around in her bathing suit when she didn't have anything worth showing off. One of the fun things about Rob's cancer, he no longer knows how to lie, prevaricate, or shade the truth. I looked at her busily mowing her lawn and thought, all this woman has going for her is that she is skinny, as in skin and bones, as in no butt or boobs, as in wasted flesh, as in scary. I had to laugh. My friend has nothing to worry about. Like Rob, her husband was watching a train wreck and trying to figure out why anyone would do such a thing to herself. Pam S. Pam, if nothing else I have to figure my contribution to these kind of woman is, to make them appreciate what they do have in a husband. One woman asked me the other day, you have three cats, more clothes than I do, less furniture and we eat out all the time. Yet, you seem happy and I am not. WHY I looked at her and said "I appreciate what I have". She walked away without saying anything. I could have said "my cats don't guzzle beer all day long, sit around in their undershirts or with no shirt on at all, pass gas and think its cure." But, if it doesn't bother them, why bring it up!!! >> Now that you mention it, not once. I am used to these people. I have >> always heard that once you are a widow women change toward you. More [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Pam S. Granby <spaz@joink.com> wrote in message: 6589doF2evb81U1@mid.individual.net, > Pam, if nothing else I have to figure my contribution to these kind > of woman is, to make them appreciate what they do have in a husband. By smacking your lips after you swallow his cum. SignatureBilly Colburn > Pam, if nothing else I have to figure my contribution to these kind of > woman is, to make them appreciate what they do have in a husband. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > gas and think its cure." But, if it doesn't bother them, why bring it > up!!! Yeah, I've already been asked when I was going to start dating after Rob goes. I've told the person that I don't want to remarry and don't plan on it. If I meet a guy who I feel is worth the effort and can look past my mutilated leg and hind end, I'll just shack up with them. Pam S. Oh my well, they had to ask. As much trouble as I have found out women can have it is bad for men too. A neighbors wife died and I swear to you from right after the funeral until we had a talk, women were lined up at his door bringing him food from day one. He got upset about it and I told him to get the food returned with a note saying he appreciated it but had enough to last a year. After saying "but I like the food" and my telling him he couldn't have it both ways, food and privacy, he did as I said and is now happier. Women are sometimes---no word for it. >> Pam, if nothing else I have to figure my contribution to these kind of >> woman is, to make them appreciate what they do have in a husband. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Pam S. I keep telling gramby to tell them she has a good list of rentahubby and watch them crap, Lee > > Pam, if nothing else I have to figure my contribution to these kind of > > woman is, to make them appreciate what they do have in a husband. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Pam S. Lee BEHAVE >I keep telling gramby to tell them she has a good list of rentahubby and > watch them crap, Lee [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> >> Pam S. > I keep telling gramby to tell them she has a good list of rentahubby and > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > Pam S. Hey, just where IS this place? I assumed it is Terre Haute, IN but maybe not. I thought I had retired here in the non-fashion western wasteland MileHigh.... but the locals here don't stage-whisper about you in diners, even if you're packing lead on your hip (a big NONO in south FL, LOL). It was funny, there we sat in our denim skirts in a small diner, eating something about the level of road kill and overheard this woman. People can be so funny, or stupid, or brainless. >> I keep telling gramby to tell them she has a good list of rentahubby and >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > you're > packing lead on your hip (a big NONO in south FL, LOL). stage whispering is the preferred means of communicating in that diner, Lee > > I keep telling gramby to tell them she has a good list of rentahubby and > > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > you're > packing lead on your hip (a big NONO in south FL, LOL). > Yeah, I've already been asked when I was going to start dating after Rob > goes. What a SINGULARLY insensitive thing to say!!!!! I would have told that person in no uncertain terms that the husband I had, whatever the condition of his health, was worth an infinite number of HIM! (I assume it was a man - I can't imagine a woman being so crass, but I could be mistaken.) It's a fairly well known fact that, if a man is widowed after a long, happy marriage, he will either marry again rather soon, or follow his wife to the grave within six months or so. Women, on the other hand, realize how fortunate they have been to have a good, happy marriage, and are VERY reluctant to try again, for fear they won't be that lucky a second time! >> Yeah, I've already been asked when I was going to start dating after Rob >> goes. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > how fortunate they have been to have a good, happy marriage, and are VERY > reluctant to try again, for fear they won't be that lucky a second time! It was actually a female with a single male friend. So I don't know if he instigated it or not. I just thought, "well you've got enough balls to pass the testosterone test" and left it at that. I did tell her that I don't plan on re-marrying, or that my MIL pointed out that I would lose all sorts of benefits if I were to re-marry. I didn't tell her that benefit loss has nothing to do with my decision. Rob being a good man and the possibility of finding someone that wonderful is so small is what I based my thoughts on. Pam S Pam, on the other hand I get told how lucky I was to find someone who would marry a blind person. When I tell I was married 11 years the first time and 30 the second they say, "My you were lucky". Why do people always assume you are on the hunt? Now they usually say "at least you have the cats!" Sometimes I hate people. Sorry for those who don't like it when we go off on a rabbit trail. >>> Yeah, I've already been asked when I was going to start dating after Rob >>> goes. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Pam S > Pam, on the other hand I get told how lucky I was to find someone who > would marry a blind person. When I tell I was married 11 years the first [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > people. Sorry for those who don't like it when we go off on a rabbit > trail. I have people who tell me all sorts of things. I usually nod, look stupider than ever, and walk away. Most of the time, those who say anything about the cats tell me that I'm selfish to have so many of them. Supposedly the world would be better off if I got rid of between three and five of them. I once asked someone how they would choose the ones to go. They didn't know and they didn't want to hear a description of each cat's virtues and liabilities. Pam S. >> Pam, on the other hand I get told how lucky I was to find someone who >> would marry a blind person. When I tell I was married 11 years the first [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > and they didn't want to hear a description of each cat's virtues and > liabilities. My response is usually "Which of your children would YOU choose to have euthanized?" (Even though SOME of those kids might merit it, that usually shuts them up.) On Apr 1, 1:47 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Pam, on the other hand I get told how lucky I was to find someone who > >> would marry a blind person. When I tell I was married 11 years the first [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > euthanized?" (Even though SOME of those kids might merit it, that > usually shuts them up.) IMHO world = better off if you got rid of same amount of your "neighbors"I would steer clear of your "town" if I had an armed posse and Axl & the Gun'rs, Eminem, and Bast the Goddess were all sitting on your front step, waiting to greet us. Wearing sweat suits no doubt, as well. Evelyn, you crack me up....almost choked on my breakfast from your post (yeah I get up late....because I CAN). Some people have an invisible sign on their forehead that says, "Kick Me". I believe Evelyn's sign much like mine..."Mess with Me at Your Own Peril".No one has ever suggested I get rid of any cats, LOL. The RB Akita, yes, after my FL neighbor waved her hand in front of my face after she backed into my bamboo tree in swale and he knocked her down and sat on her. The cops offered her a ticket for destroying my tree/driving w/o her glasses and she quickly forgot about me getting rid of the Akita. They are very quiet pets. He was fond of the cats. They only become snarling balls of dark fur and big teeth (130#) when anyone threatens (or they perceive threats) the owner. Thanks for a LOL Evelyn. EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <evgmsop@earthlink.net> wrote in message: fsu3g0025js@news3.newsguy.com, > My response is usually "Which of your children would YOU choose to > have euthanized?" Because of course cats and humans are essentially the same and should be treated exactly the same. Idiot. SignatureBilly Colburn > Most of the time, those who say anything about > the cats tell me that I'm selfish to have so many of them. Supposedly the > world would be better off if I got rid of between three and five of them. I > once asked someone how they would choose the ones to go. They didn't know > and they didn't want to hear a description of each cat's virtues and > liabilities. I don't understand. What is selfish about having cats? If anything, I'd say that taking responsibility for so many animals, who might otherwise be sick, starving, injured or dead, seems rather *unselfish* to me. At the very most, perhaps it's a neutral thing, because it's a win/win - cats are happy, you are happy - but to say that you are selfish, they would be saying that you're putting your needs before anyone else's, and I don't see that happening at all. Joyce On Apr 1, 2:29 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote: > > Most of the time, those who say anything about > > the cats tell me that I'm selfish to have so many of them. Supposedly the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Joyce Joyce, you know I think the world of you and would not even bother to post you if I didn't care.....but I got some advice you didn't ask for. There are a lot of prople who lack common sense, as well we are aware. IMHO you have too much and that is why you are trying to make logic (like Spock) out of people's obnoxious behavior. A lot is not logical (understandlable at all) about this; some people can actually *sense* who to pick on...and do. I hate to say this, really, but I think this type considers those who have lost their sight to be "vulnerable" (just like the other cats did when my Sylviels retinas caused her to lose hers, she was a big car w/all claws but they picked on her and she spent much time hiding from them when I wasn't home). Now I think, from reading here, that Lee in spite of it can hold her own with anyone who dared insult her, LOL. Good for Lee. But back to my advice: you said that you are a loner, yourself; well, so am I but pretty much by choice. Not to make you feel bad, but could you like make yourself get *out*...maybe on Bart to the City (plenty there to amuse you even on the streets; I used to go to Mission (being from a tough section of my hometown) and check out stuff there, but the Presidio is full of places where meeting for animal concerns go on; then for fun, the Castro (do they sstill have that place w/the male can-can dancers ?) orr take off your shoes and wade around at the Estuary (oh...forget that; you might find Laci Peterson's head or something there) Berkeley is fun, panhandlers there but they lack nerve and are young, if you like book stores with cats, but look out; the store owners have all kinds of shoplifting horns, lights, etc. honking at all entrances and the bathrooms because of the students behavior there....you get my drift. You never know what new friends you might meet somewhere. But you ain't gonna meet them safe and comfy in your living room w/the beloved cats. Not a lecture; not a criticism....love ya just the way you are; plus your innocence, Joyce. Yes, I said innocence. Have a great day. >> I don't understand. What is selfish about having cats? If anything, I'd >> say that taking responsibility for so many animals, who might otherwise [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> see that happening at all. >> Joyce > Joyce, you know I think the world of you and would not even bother to > post you if I didn't care.....but I got some advice you didn't ask for. > There are a lot of prople who lack common sense, as well we are aware. > IMHO you have too much and that is why you are trying to make logic > (like Spock) out of people's obnoxious behavior. Thank you, this was a nice thing for you to say. I should say, though, that I wasn't being completely wide-eyed with the above question. I was being kind of rhetorical and a bit sarcastic about it. I do understand that there are plenty of judgemental jerks out there who would probably be able to find fault with the Dalai Lama. :) I was mostly trying to be supportive of Pam, and hope it was helpful to her. > A lot is not logical (understandlable at all) about > this; some people can actually *sense* who to pick on...and do. I hate > to say this, really, but I think this type considers those who have lost > their sight to be "vulnerable" True, there is a lot of ignorance about disability, and a lot of condescension and pity toward people who are doing just fine on their own, thank you. > (just like the other cats did when my Sylviels retinas caused > her to lose hers, she was a big car w/all claws but they picked on her > and she spent much time hiding from them when I wasn't home). Poor baby!! :( Not because she was blind, but because she got picked on. Duffy doesn't get picked on, and I sure don't feel sorry for him. > But back to my advice: you said that you are a loner, yourself; > well, so am I but pretty much by choice. Not to > make you feel bad, but could you like make yourself get *out*... First thing: is this related to the earlier subject, of my question about Pam and her cats? Like, are you thinking, "Wow, Joyce sure is naive, she needs to get out more!" Because if so, I should tell you that I'm not quite as naive as I might come across. A lot gets lost over the Net, in terms of intonation and so forth. Many times I'm being a bit ironic, or maybe playing devil's advocate on a subject, and you're taking me more literally than I intended? It's true I'm pretty dense about certain things, such as, oh, finance, the housing market, investments, that kind of stuff. But when it comes to people and their motivations, I think I'm more savvy than you're giving me credit for. No offense taken, though. I can tell that you mean really well. Besides, you're right that I need to get out more. :) Because of isolation and depression. This is a tough one for me because I'm fighting this big desire to roll up in a ball and hide. What I've decided is that it's time to find a therapist. Clearly I'm not getting out of this on my own. (Note to everyone besides Hopitus: the rest of this post is about *very* local stuff, which might be boring to anyone who is not familiar with San Francisco and its environs.) > maybe on > Bart to the City (plenty there to amuse you even on the streets; I > used to > go to Mission (being from a tough section of my hometown) The Mission is probably the neighborhood in SF that I know the best and have been to the most. Can't beat the price of a burrito, after all. :) > and check out > stuff there, but the Presidio is full of places where meeting for > animal concerns go on; Really? Such as what? I haven't heard of anything, so I'm curious now. Actually, I've been putting off signing up to volunteer at the Peninsula Humane Society, which is right down the street from where I work. I used to volunteer there back in 2001 - my task was cuddling and playing with cats. Tough job, eh? :) > then for fun, the Castro (do they sstill have that place w/the > male can-can dancers ?) LOL, I don't know. They probably have several. :) I used to hang out in the Castro all the time, back when I lived in Sunnyvale - then I *needed* to go to the City regularly for an infusion of culture. But now that I live in the East Bay, I've gotten lazy. Why should I travel to the City when all my friends live nearby? > orr take off your shoes and wade around at the Estuary > (oh...forget that; you might find Laci Peterson's head or something > there) <<SPEW>> That needed a BW. You are sick, sick, sick!! And now my co-workers think I'm nuts because I'm sitting in my office giggling at my computer. (At the very least, they now know that I'm *not working*. We don't usually giggle at our work.) |
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