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Kyla =^..^= - 18 Mar 2008 21:22 GMT Kyla here,
I subscribe to Flippy's mailing list and got this in my Outlook e-mail today,
and felt the NEED to share it with you.
***here's what Flippy sent me***
Hi all,
Coming up to Easter I just wanted to remind you of the holiday hazards to our kitties, especially Easter lilies.
Eating just one leaf of a toxic lily can result in severe poisoning, and within a short time your cat will exhibit signs of toxicity. The primary toxic effects are on the kidneys. Within minutes to hours of ingesting part of the lily plant, your cat might stop eating and begin vomiting. As the toxin begins to affect the kidneys, the cat will become lethargic. Finally, he will experience kidney failure and death will generally occur within five days.
For info visit this page: http://www.flippyscatpage.com/health.html and look under EASTER LILIES.
Please be safe, and keep your beloved pets safe too.
Purrs to all,
Flippy in Melbourne, Australia.
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Kyla
Adrian - 18 Mar 2008 22:14 GMT Kyla =^..^= wrote:
> Kyla here, > [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > Kyla *All* lilies are toxic, especially to cats. If a cat gets lily pollen on its fur and then licks it off it can be fatal.
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jmcquown - 19 Mar 2008 00:38 GMT > Kyla =^..^= wrote: >> Kyla here, [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > *All* lilies are toxic, especially to cats. If a cat gets lily pollen > on its fur and then licks it off it can be fatal. Yep, there are lots of other plants that are toxic to cats, too. Can't be too careful.
Jill
Kyla =^..^= - 19 Mar 2008 07:17 GMT "jmcquown"
>> Kyla =^..^= wrote: >>> Kyla here, [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Jill I have a lousy green thumb and only have silk plant sround. And the Cats are indoor cats, so no worries about them eating something bad outside.
Kyla
mc - 20 Mar 2008 05:23 GMT I really hate to break this to you guys...
These are what are referred to as "urban legends"... you know... the same sort of stories, but to a lesser degree than the stories you heard about as a youngster where the boyfriend leaves the car and the girlfriend hears a scraping sound on the car door all night... only to find a hook in the car door in the morning...
Or how about the one about the roller coaster? Someone rides on a roller coaster and stands up and their head is lopped off!? Remember that one? Did it happen? Maybe, maybe, maybe somewhere, someplace... But no one really seems to know for sure... but it sure makes for a good story and retelling year after year after year after year after year after year... well... you get the point.
See what I am saying?
You cannot believe everything you hear via email or word of mouth. You simply MUST take on some research for yourself instead of blindly believing everything that is syrup fed to you.
While it is true that it is better to err with caution, it is not a good idea to be swayed by every untruth you hear.
For example, MOST people believe that the Christmas plant, the poinsettia, is poisonous.
The poinsettia is NOT a poisonous plant, but yet many resources still, to this day claim that it is.
URBAN LEGENDS are beautiful things.
I will tell you this. We had this beautiful lop eared chinchilla bunny who happened to get pregnant. While she was nursing her beautiful babies she consumed approximately one half of a very large poinsettia plant my sister had placed inside our house.
I was beside myself. I KNEW those babies were not going to have a Mom soon and I wasn't at all sure that I would be able to be as good a Mom to those babies as she had been! She was so beautiful and I loved her so!
Well, I waited, and waited and waited for her to become sick. Guess what? She never did get sick! What a joke! After that little episode I was to do a little bit of an investigation into the magnificent poinsettia plant to find that they are not really poisonous plants at all, as is their reputation.
Now all of this occurred quite a few years ago... lets see... more than fifteen years ago now, and I still hear, quite often, this fallacy that poinsettias are poisonous.
They are not, just for the record. I did my research. Now I know.
Easter plants are not known to be poisonous either. Not at all... YOU might just want to do a bit of research yourself and check into whether or not these plants are in fact poisonous and remember about the Urban Legends.
I can tell you that my cats are always very fascinated with my Easter Lillies but they have never harmed one of my cats.
Granby - 20 Mar 2008 05:29 GMT The only plant I ever knew made a cat sick was Lilly of the Valley and that may have been more because of the amount consumed than the plant. My cats and dogs have always munched on my plants, and I have many. This year the cats consumed all the leaves off two hibiscus tress that I bought in for the winter. New ones are growing but I covered them with netting this time around.
>I really hate to break this to you guys... > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > I can tell you that my cats are always very fascinated with my Easter > Lillies but they have never harmed one of my cats. 22brix - 20 Mar 2008 05:58 GMT >I really hate to break this to you guys... > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > I can tell you that my cats are always very fascinated with my Easter > Lillies but they have never harmed one of my cats. I agree about poinsettias but I gotta disagree about lillies--they are listed as extremely poisonous on every list that I have seen--including animal poison control hotlines. I love lillies, I grow lillies but they either stay on the plant outdoors or take them as bouquets. I know I don't want to take a chance with my cats. There are too many other non-toxic plants that I can enjoy and the cats can, too!
Bonnie
jmcquown - 20 Mar 2008 11:17 GMT >>I really hate to break this to you guys... >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Bonnie Indeed, lilies are definitely poisonous to cats so don't lump them on the "urban legend" list. Poinsettias are toxic but the toxins are in the seeds and the toxicity level is low. Also not a good idea to let unsupervised children - or really stupid adults -munch on them.
And it's not just house plants. People food. If you *must* feed people food to your pets, don't give them things containing onions. While dogs are more sensitive to it than cats, there is a level of toxicity to both. It might not kill them but could make them very sick, so why take the chance? Did you know avocado is lethal to a lovebird?
You can get a list of toxic plants and foodstuffs from most vets or the local version of the Humane Society or even most large garden centers that sells plants. You can't just label everything an "urban legend" without doing research.
Jill
Sherry - 20 Mar 2008 12:59 GMT > >>I really hate to break this to you guys... > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > - Show quoted text - That's right. Nearly everyone is aware that poinsetties are toxic, but the truth is, there are LOTS of plants much more toxic than poinsetties. It surprised me to read that. I should know immediately which ones are bad, besides lilies, but I can't remember them all...it's a good idea to look at the list occasionally. All my cats are totally uninterested in eating plants, except for problemchild Bosley, who generally always breaks the mold.
Sherry
Jack Campin - bogus address - 20 Mar 2008 13:00 GMT > I can tell you that my cats are always very fascinated with my Easter > Lillies but they have never harmed one of my cats. We don't know who you are but we do know who the veterinary science departments at Purdue University, the University of Michigan and the University of Pennsylvania are (to pick some references at random that you get by googling "easter lily toxicity").
http://www.michvet.com/library/emergency_lily_toxicity.asp
f.ck off and die.
==== j a c k at c a m p i n . m e . u k === <http://www.campin.me.uk> ==== Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557 CD-ROMs and free stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts
Christina Websell - 20 Mar 2008 23:19 GMT "Jack Campin - bogus address" <bogus@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:bogus-
>> http://www.michvet.com/library/emergency_lily_toxicity.asp > > f.ck off and die. There is no excuse for that, Jack. You could have said "I strongly disagree" - you'll be getting us Brits a bad name on here.
mc - 21 Mar 2008 01:22 GMT I posted that post and I was wrong. My only hope is that if Jack disagrees with someone face to face, that Jack Campin doesn't get quite so annoyed with them. It would be wrong for anyone to assume that sort of behavior should be associated to the "Brits".
I am not unaware as to why he may have been upset by the post and all I can do is apologize.
Even my husband scolded me for posting that. Even he knew that Lilies are toxic.
There is quite a bit of debate over the poinsettia plant, and I wrongly assumed that this is probably true of the lily as well.
I was wrong.
I am not suggesting that people go out and buy poinsettia plants to feed their pets. It is always wise to keep them from any potential harm.
I am only trying to debunk a myth.
Jill, the episode with the rabbit was so long ago that I don't recall the specifics (fifteen +++ years ago). My vet at that time in my life (and I still go see them from time to time, though they are approximately an hour drive from here [my regular vet now is a bit closer at 45 minutes away]) is an exotics specialist. I very well may have called the vet and they probably told me to keep an eye on the rabbit - they probably didn't feel it was an issue. I don't honestly know anymore - it may have occurred over a weekend when the vet was not available - I honestly do not recall. I do tend to worry too much when it comes to the health of my pets, so even if the vet did say it would be OK, I would still worry over it. Because, you see, I believed that Poinsettias were poisonous at that time.
Here is an article by the Pittsburg Poison Center saying what I could not say better:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8906768?dopt=Abstract
And from the house rabbit society:
http://www.rabbit.org/care/poinsettia.html
And yes, agreed. Cats are not rabbits and rabbits are not cats.
I am only including these sources here (though there are many) because I am pretty sure that regardless of how many articles I find about the "non-toxic" effects of the poinsettia there will be two more that say it is toxic.
If I do a search on the Internet now, the idea that these plants are highly toxic still pretty much rules. And some of that is due to a lack of real research on the subject. Actually, not lack of real research - the research has been done - but possibly the publics insistence on holding onto this idea? A myth?
Cats can develop gastro-intestinal upset from poinsettias. I am not arguing that. Again, I would not suggest you allow your cat to eat your poinsettias.
Over the years I have found quite a few myths associated with various plant material. I won't even go into some if any of them. Although I am tempted, LOL.
I have found that there are many fallacies in life. Beliefs that we all seem to believe until we find out where the truth really lies.
So be it, the post I made last night came off as being arrogant and flippant.
mc - 21 Mar 2008 01:46 GMT Apologies, but I have to send this out to you all. I know all of you have nothing but the very best interests of your pets in mind, and I would strongly suggest that you not allow your cats to devour your Poinsettias, but, here it is:
http://highland.osu.edu/hort/hortarticles.html
The Ohio State University has proven that poinsettias are NOT poisonous plants. The Ohio State University researches this every year. I can provide you with many more links if you so desire. I will be happy to do that if it helps, but I don't really think it is necessary.
Still, the myth of the Poinsettia plant continues, as you can still find many people who still think it is.
hopitus - 21 Mar 2008 01:47 GMT > On Mar 20, 5:19 pm, "Christina Websell" > [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > So be it, the post I made last night came off as being arrogant and > flippant. Hey, I don;t believe neither you nor any Brits "arrogant and/or flippant' some think we need to be educated whether we need it or not, LOL. Regarding poisonous poinsettia and/or lillies my cats are probably safer than you are from their toxicity - pollen, etc. - as I heartily dislike both and they are never in my home. I love Snopes, though; it's full of funny stuff.
mc - 21 Mar 2008 02:08 GMT LOL!
Hopitus, you are such a hoot!
Thank you!!!
I have to confess that I did start my search there, but I didn't want to get snopes into trouble over all this, hehehehe
Thanks! Thanks for understanding ;-)
I really want to go get those allergy shots! Oh, I am sure it would be soooo worth it!!!
LOL
hopitus - 21 Mar 2008 02:30 GMT > LOL! > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > LOL You are welcome. I dunno re allergy shots; I got them for 3 years long ago with no difference in my symptoms. So I quit. Others swear by their improvement from the shots. I'm not allergic to those two plants; I just never liked them. Nothing against the Xmas flower but any kind of lilly makes me think of funerals; where I come from, that's what they have all around your casket: big bunches of lillies (barf)! Like, I want those in my place?
Jack Campin - bogus address - 21 Mar 2008 03:21 GMT > any kind of lilly makes me think of funerals; where I come from, > that's what they have all around your casket: big bunches of lillies > (barf)! Like, I want those in my place? That's common here too.
One the cutest examples I've seen of someone having too much of the wrong sort of information was an American political scientist friend who hadn't been in Scotland at this time of year before. She told me she was amazed at how many Scottish old ladies were Sinn Fein supporters. After boggling a bit, I worked out that she associated yellow-and-white conical flowers worn on clothing around Easter with the Irish commemorating the Easter Rising by wearing lilies in their lapels. (Her specialty is European nationalist movements). In fact what she was seeing was women wearing daffodils they'd bought from charity collectors for the Marie Curie cancer fund (they provide visiting nurses for cancer patients, and do their main collection at this time of year, selling daffodils they harvest specially from plantings on council land like road cuttings).
I still can't stop thinking of the little old ladies from the Marie Curie charity shops being holed up in the O'Connell Street Post Office with James Connolly and wielding machine guns.
==== j a c k at c a m p i n . m e . u k === <http://www.campin.me.uk> ==== Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557 CD-ROMs and free stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts
hopitus - 21 Mar 2008 04:10 GMT > > any kind of lilly makes me think of funerals; where I come from, > > that's what they have all around your casket: big bunches of lillies [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557 > CD-ROMs and free stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts ROFL at the Marie Curie ladies w/AK-47's etc.and I don't know anything re the Easter Rising. I got a compliment for you Brits....Jack if Scots qualify, you too. Tweed if you're around and mc (a Brit loves Pulp Fiction?) This evening, as often, I tuned in to public tv station to watch the auction, which once again was in the UK at some historical building. I watched a lady with on odd heartshaped lapel pin get her heirloom evaluated for history and value by the expert from London. Now in USA people bring their various antique treasures, many of which end up originating indeed from either UK or Europe, but the expert in this country rarely has the knowledge and/or written record displayed by the British antique experts on their shows.....yes, they know its American Indian, but our history is so short compared to yours there really isn't much to say or research about it.....the expert in London on tonight's show not only told the woman that precious-metal-wise, her lapel pin set was pretty much worthless..but it had tiny markings on it - he knew exactly where to find them and how to interpret them - which verified it as a genuine Faberge jewelry item, sold around turn of last century, and is NOW worth on the high side of $13,000 (I forget what the pounds were) ! Our USA experts at antiques do much better on their part with antique furniture items and I've never seen one on the USA show version display such knowledge of detail.
outsider - 21 Mar 2008 12:53 GMT >> any kind of lilly makes me think of funerals; where I come from, >> that's what they have all around your casket: big bunches of lillies [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > me she was amazed at how many Scottish old ladies were Sinn Fein > supporters. Reminds me of some "academians" I work with. Could not "common sense" their way out of a paper bags. To be fair, I think your friend was just showing off.
After boggling a bit, I worked out that she associated
> yellow-and-white conical flowers worn on clothing around Easter with > the Irish commemorating the Easter Rising by wearing lilies in their [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557 CD-ROMs and free stuff: > Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts bastXXXette@sonic.net - 21 Mar 2008 02:31 GMT In rec.pets.cats.anecdotes mc <pulpfictionfan2007@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I posted that post and I was wrong. My only hope is that if Jack > disagrees with someone face to face, that Jack Campin doesn't get > quite so annoyed with them. It would be wrong for anyone to assume > that sort of behavior should be associated to the "Brits". I wouldn't assume that! We have several Brits on this ng with quite a variety of temperaments.
Anyway, is someone from Scotland considered a "Brit"?
> Even my husband scolded me for posting that. Even he knew that Lilies > are toxic.
> There is quite a bit of debate over the poinsettia plant, and I > wrongly assumed that this is probably true of the lily as well. One thing to keep in mind is that there's quite a wide variety of *level* of toxicity in plants, and a lot of sites that list "plants toxic to cats" don't differentiate. But a plant that might give a cat a bit of indigestion or make them throw up would be listed alongside a plant that could cause death in 5 hours, which makes it hard to get a sense of perspective on individual plants.
My theory - not that I have any actual information to back this up - is that poinsettia is one of those plants that causes minor distress to animals when ingested, so is very mildly toxic. And that's not an urban legend, but it doesn't mean it's in the same class as the lily plant.
Joyce
jmcquown - 21 Mar 2008 06:20 GMT > In rec.pets.cats.anecdotes mc <pulpfictionfan2007@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Joyce Thank you. Toxicity levels vary from plant to plant. One might not kill your cat but can certainly make it quite ill. Poinsettias are a case in point.
And with that, I leave this cross-posted thread which is giving me indigestion.
Jill
Jack Campin - bogus address - 22 Mar 2008 02:35 GMT [composite followup to three posts]
> I posted that post and I was wrong. My only hope is that if Jack > disagrees with someone face to face, that Jack Campin doesn't get > quite so annoyed with them. It would be wrong for anyone to assume > that sort of behavior should be associated to the "Brits". > I am not unaware as to why he may have been upset by the post and all > I can do is apologize. You possibly didn't realize how little information I had to go on. You aren't a regular poster on rpca. Your id was vaguely familiar, but then so are the ids of a bunch of pretty vicious trolls. Since what you were suggesting seemed intended to kill our cats, I assumed you were just another one crawling out of the woodwork.
Given how little time it could have taken for somebody to expose their cats to this hazard at this time of year, politeness was inappropriate, troll or not. We needed to stop anyone taking your advice, and fast.
I'd never heard anything about poinsettias being toxic. That may well be a legend for all I know. I was first warned about lilies being poisonous when I was about ten years old (that was arum lilies poisoning kids in New Zealand, where they're very common - they're on the poison list for cats at maxshouse but with no data yet). More than 45 years ago and the official advice is still the same as I was told then:
http://www.landcareresearch.co.nz/publications/infosheets/poisonplants/poisplant s_internal.asp
: Now in USA people bring their various antique treasures, many of : which end up originating indeed from either UK or Europe, but the : expert in this country rarely has the knowledge and/or written : record displayed by the British antique experts on their shows. You're probably thinking of Arthur Negus of the Antiques Roadshow. (A bloke comes up to Negus in the TV studio and waves something red and smelly under his nose. Negus says "What on earth is that?". The enquirer says "a used tampon". Negus calls the BBC security guards, and as they're dragging the guy away he shouts back "I only wanted to know what period it was from!")
|> One the cutest examples I've seen of someone having too much of the |> wrong sort of information was an American political scientist friend [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | sense" their way out of a paper bags. To be fair, I think your | friend was just showing off. Yes to the common-sense-deficiency bit, but she doesn't do point- scoring at all; if anything she's too modest and unassuming for her own good. Just rather away with the fairies at times.
==== j a c k at c a m p i n . m e . u k === <http://www.campin.me.uk> ==== Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557 CD-ROMs and free stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts
mc - 22 Mar 2008 05:53 GMT On Mar 21, 8:35 pm, Jack Campin - bogus address <bo...@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> [composite followup to three posts] Hi Jack,
I really appreciate this post.
I have read over that first post I made to this thread over and over again and I have to say that it was a pretty careless post.
I will be the first to admit that sometimes I am a bit too quick to jump on things - I am very compulsive.... I like to think it is part of my charm ;-) NOT!!!
Your post in response was understandable, and I harbor no hard feelings towards you at all.
I did read with great interest about the ladies that purchased the daffodils they'd bought from charity collectors for the Marie Curie , though ;-) That is a good story ;-)
I did a search in this group about poinsettias and the results were quite interesting; apparently this argument has been around for awhile ;-) I am waiting for Phil to jump in and side with the part about poinsettias not being good for cats... and that is fine... Again, I would never suggest that a person feed their cats poinsettias, but I would like people to see they are not toxic. Causing some minor gastro-intestinal distress is not toxic. They are not life threatening to a cat.
OK, I am dropping this subject now. Let this subject never come up again between us... hehehe ;-)
Thanks ;-)
Melissa
mc - 22 Mar 2008 05:54 GMT On Mar 21, 8:35 pm, Jack Campin - bogus address <bo...@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> [composite followup to three posts] > > > I posted that post and I was wrong. My only hope is that if Jack Jack, I bet you are an absolute riot to hang with ;-) :-) ;-)
Melissa
hopitus - 22 Mar 2008 07:09 GMT > On Mar 21, 8:35 pm, Jack Campin - bogus address > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Melissa I just now remembered something that happened years ago....I had only one cat then, a 'stumpy' (Manx slaves will know what that is) Manx grey-striper named Toopy. My younger brother who was in the Air Force at that time sent me two dozen long-stemmed red roses for my birthday and I had carefully arranged them in a tall vase in middle of table and gone happily off to work. Returned home that afternoon to find that Toops had bitten - not eaten - off every blossom from its long stem without disturbing anything else and not spilling a drop of the vase's water content,all the blossoms were surrounding the vase on the table. I was blown away by this, but blamed myself for leaving them at easy access for Toops. All future floral gifts were stashed in fridge when we left the place.....cats can be weird.
mc - 22 Mar 2008 16:55 GMT Years ago I used to use all sorts of things, like essential oils to keep my cats from my plants. The essential oils trick did not work not for my kitties at the time. I used various ones, too.
The cats I have now have no interest in the plants. But rest assured, they can't get to the lily.
That is funny about the roses. Little buggers!
Debbie Wilson - 20 Mar 2008 14:30 GMT > I can tell you that my cats are always very fascinated with my Easter > Lillies but they have never harmed one of my cats. Then your cats have been *extremely* fortunate. Lily pollen is so toxic that if a cat gets it on its fur and then licks it off, it will suffer kidney failure and die. This is not an urban legend, it is a veterinary fact. All parts of lily plants are toxic to cats but the pollen is the worst as it is so easy for them to come into contact with it. At the very least, snip off the stamens of the lily flower so no pollen is present, but preferably remove the lilies from any place that the cats can reach.
Some references in case you are still unconvinced:
http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pro_apcc_common
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/05/06/nlilly06 .xml&sSheet=/news/2005/05/06/ixhome.html
http://www.cats.org.uk/catcare/glossary_index.asp#l
http://www.cats.org.uk/catcare/faq_health.asp
http://www.fabcats.org/owners/poisons/article.html
http://www.rspca.org.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RSPCA/News/NewsArchiv e&articleid=1115280258929&newsmode=normal&marker=91
Please do not risk your cats' lives by not taking this seriously!
Deb.
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"He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would; He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield
mc - 20 Mar 2008 15:13 GMT When I posted that last night... I could have been a bit less dramatic, so apologies, and I could be wrong about the Easter Lilly.
But it is absolutely true about the poinsettia and it is a myth that continues to perpetuate itself, and that was really point I wanted to make.
These myths purpetuate themselves and people believe them and they never go away.
But my apologies about assuming that was also true of the Easter Lilly.
jmcquown - 20 Mar 2008 23:07 GMT > When I posted that last night... I could have been a bit less > dramatic, so apologies, and I could be wrong about the Easter Lilly. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > But my apologies about assuming that was also true of the Easter Lilly. The problem is you're also *assuming* no one has ever checked the facts (which you obviously haven't done yourself). Lillies - all lillies - are toxic. They can kill a cat.
Who told you poinsettias aren't toxic? Did you ask your vet? Can you provide citations? They may not kill a cat but you sure don't want them turning a poinsettia into chow. They simply have a lower toxicity level than some toxic plants.
You said about your rabbit: "We had this beautiful lop eared chinchilla bunny who happened to get pregnant. While she was nursing her beautiful babies she consumed approximately one half of a very large poinsettia plant my sister had placed inside our house" then "Well I waited, and waited and waited for her to become sick. Guess what? She never did get sick!"
Guess that proves it, then. <snort> What it really proves is you must be incredibly dimwitted. If you really thought your rabbit had injested something poisonous you should have at least called a poison control center or your vet to ask about it. By the time an animal starts suffering the affects of poisoning it's usually too little, too late. Oh, and just to be sure we're clear on this: rabbits aren't cats.
Jill
Granby - 21 Mar 2008 04:44 GMT There will never be total agreement about this. I have lived in four different areas of Illinois and Kentucky over the years and, have different opinions in each area. I always pull the stamens out of the lilies, mostly because I don't want the mess of the pollen.
> When I posted that last night... I could have been a bit less > dramatic, so apologies, and I could be wrong about the Easter Lilly. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > But my apologies about assuming that was also true of the Easter Lilly. 22brix - 21 Mar 2008 04:58 GMT > I always pull the stamens out of the lilies, mostly because I don't want > the mess of the pollen. One of my more embarrassing moments involved a boquet of lilies. I was buying them at the local grocery store for my sister who was coming to visit. I picked out a gorgeous bunch of lilies, sniffed them appreciatively and went to the check out lane to pay. Several people complimented me on such a lovely boquet, including the cashier. When I got to the car I caught a glimpse of myself in the rear view mirror and was horrified--I had a huge smudge of vivid, yellowish pollen on my face. My only consolation was that I didn't know anyone who saw me! I now religiously clip the stamens!
Bonnie
Granby - 21 Mar 2008 05:02 GMT Honey, if that embarrassed you pray you never loose your sight. I have had that happen with flowers. makeup running when in the rain and all sorts of things. Looked close at some comics in the paper and went to church with colored ink on my nose. A lady actually gave me a "spit bath" with no warning she was going to do so!
>> I always pull the stamens out of the lilies, mostly because I don't >> want the mess of the pollen. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Bonnie mc - 20 Mar 2008 15:24 GMT Jack Campin,
Thanks for the link, I will read it.
I did a google search for Poinsettias (not Easter Lillies yet) and I came up with a huge number of websites claiming the Poinsettia is toxic. The myth continues.
In any case, some members on this board DO know me. YOU do not.
No harm, sorry if I offended you. I was probably a bit over eager to make my point and my apologies for offending you.
I do appreciate getting to the facts.
Melissa
mc - 20 Mar 2008 15:31 GMT Debbie,
Thank you too, for the good info... I always remove the stamens because I have such nasty allergies and the pollen bothers me as well.
We really do keep our Lilly plants out of the cats way, anyway, because they are so beautiful and I really enjoy them. I hate my plants getting shredded up.
Thanks for your information.
Glad to know :-)
Melissa
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