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Hans Schrøder - 17 Mar 2008 01:45 GMT
TV? Television set? What has that got to do with cats? A lot!

13 years ago, I won a nice TV set in a competition (Jeopardy). It has worked
all fine up to now, but during the last months it has started behaving quite
badly. It has started to tell me when I should go to bed, or that I maybe
should do some housework instead of watching it. The TV just switches off
all by itself after a while. 45 minutes, 3 hours, it depends on the TV set's
mood. I can bring it back to life sometimes by the old cure: Banging the top
of it, but it doesn't help all of the time.

So, I'm planning to get a flat screen 32" LCD TV set. Good idea, you would
say, but there is one hatch to it... Teti, my much beloved, five years old
Devon Rex. He just loves the old TV, he uses to climb on top of it, lay down
and enjoy the heat from it. He can stay there for a long time, I think he
believes that I watch him instead of the TV programme. So he stays up there,
smiling at me, warming himself and have a good time.

An LCD tv will not give him the same opportunities. It's too narrow to sleep
on, and it doesn't give away the heat he wants.

So, the question is: What should I do? I don't want want to be cruel to him
by taking away this nice, warm resting place, but on the other hand, I don't
want the cruel TV set to decide the time I should use for watching it,
neither. It surely needs a replacement. It's a delicate problem: Should I be
cruel to Teti by buying a new TV, or should I let the old TV set be cruel to
me for ever?

I need some advice here...

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Cheryl P. - 17 Mar 2008 02:41 GMT
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> So, the question is: What should I do? I don't want want to be cruel to him
> by taking away this nice, warm resting place, but on the other hand, I don't
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I need some advice here...

That's a hard one! Would it be possible for you to have two TVs - one
for you and one for your cat?<G>

My new computer has the heat vent in a much more convenient spot for
Sam, the cat, as there's plenty of room there for him to curl up (the
other machine was much larger). I try not to think about what the cat
hair is probably doing to the computer (it can't be that bad; fans blow
out, after all, right?) but recently discovered another inconvenience
when the keyboard suddenly stopped working entirely. Sure enough, Sam
had dislodged the plug and of course my attempts to re-connect the
keyboard were interpreted as a new and amusing game. I tried to explain
that it's a little difficult to type with a mouse!

And let's not get into cats, renovations, and the space under the
bathtub. Sam is now barred from the bathroom entirely, much to his distress.

Cheryl
Sherry - 17 Mar 2008 02:44 GMT
> TV? Television set? What has that got to do with cats? A lot!
>
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Hans Schrøder
> han-s...@online.no

You were on Jeopardy? Wow.
RE: Your question: I had the same quandary when I went from the
traditional computer monitor to a flat screen. Frank adjusted to the
change quite
nicely by lying on the space between the keyboard & monitor, so that I
can't
see a thing. :-)

Sherry
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 17 Mar 2008 02:45 GMT
"Hans Schr?der" <han-schr@online.no> wrote:

> So, I'm planning to get a flat screen 32" LCD TV set. Good idea, you would
> say, but there is one hatch to it... Teti, my much beloved, five years old
> Devon Rex. He just loves the old TV, he uses to climb on top of it, lay down
> and enjoy the heat from it. He can stay there for a long time, I think he
> believes that I watch him instead of the TV programme. So he stays up there,
> smiling at me, warming himself and have a good time.

> An LCD tv will not give him the same opportunities. It's too narrow to sleep
> on, and it doesn't give away the heat he wants.

> So, the question is: What should I do?

I don't know if this will be at all meaningful to you, but a few weeks
ago I was in a coffeeshop, where I saw the coolest works of art - old TV
sets that had the front part (the glass, where you watch it) covered over
with colored glass mosaic patterns. The TVs were plugged in and were on.
You could see light through the patterned colored glass, and you could
see movement, but it just looked like a trippy light show. You couldn't
see what was happening on the TV. The sound was off. I just thought
they were wonderful!

Maybe you could do something like that, if you're artistic? If you don't
know what mosaic is, you could try googling "mosaic art" or "glass mosaic",
and you'll get some good responses, I'm sure. The colored glass mosaics
look a lot like stained glass patterns, but the technique used to put it
together is very different. You have to glue the pieces *onto* something
else. Artists also make mosaics out of stones, ceramics (including broken
dishware, often referred to as "broken crockery"), and whatever else they
think might look interesting.

This way, you'd have a reason to keep it, but you wouldn't have to watch
it, and Teti would still have his sleeping spot.

Probably not the practical advice you were looking for. :-/

Joyce
Kyla  =^..^= - 17 Mar 2008 02:58 GMT
<bastXXXette...
> "Hans Schr?der"
> > So, I'm planning to get a flat screen 32" LCD TV set. Good idea, you
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> see what was happening on the TV. The sound was off. I just thought
> they were wonderful!

DH is into doing stained glass.  It is really cool and you should see our
window in the livingroom. <G>

> Maybe you could do something like that, if you're artistic? If you don't
> know what mosaic is, you could try googling "mosaic art" or "glass
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Joyce

It's a great Idea Joyce:)

Kyla
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 17 Mar 2008 02:47 GMT
"Hans Schr?der" <han-schr@online.no> wrote:

> It's a delicate problem: Should I be
> cruel to Teti by buying a new TV, or should I let the old TV set be cruel to
> me for ever?

PS - I had the same thing happen when I changed my old computr monitor
to a flat-screen one. It's been over 6 months since the change, and both
Roxy and Smudge (especially the former) look up to the top of the monitor
as though they're thinking about jumping up there, then they think the
better of it. Old habits die hard...

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Joy - 17 Mar 2008 02:53 GMT
> TV? Television set? What has that got to do with cats? A lot!
>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> I need some advice here...

Could you put the old tv somewhere else and plug it in for him?

Joy
Kyla  =^..^= - 17 Mar 2008 02:55 GMT
"Joy"
> "Hans Schrøder"
>> TV? Television set? What has that got to do with cats? A lot!
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Joy

Great idea:)

Kyla
tanadashoes - 17 Mar 2008 05:24 GMT
> So, the question is: What should I do? I don't want want to be cruel to
> him by taking away this nice, warm resting place, but on the other hand, I
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I need some advice here...

How much do you care about your power bill?  If you don't mind the extra
expense, you can plug the old TV into a different plug in with the picture
dimmed and the sound off and then watch your new TV.  Bet Teti adjusts to
the new one by sleeping in front of it, the way mine did with my new
computer monitor   We finally had to put it up on a wooden box so that I
could see it over the cats.

Pam S.
MatSav - 17 Mar 2008 08:34 GMT
> TV? Television set? What has that got to do with cats? A lot!
>
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> I need some advice here...

Sounds like some of the electronic controls may be on their way
out. I don't want to worry you, but electrical faults are a major
cause of house fires. Too much of a risk, for you and your
master. Either get rid, or get fixed. NOW!!!!

LCD and plasma TVs also use three times the amount of electricity
as a CRT display.

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tanadashoes - 19 Mar 2008 06:12 GMT
> Sounds like some of the electronic controls may be on their way out. I
> don't want to worry you, but electrical faults are a major cause of house
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> LCD and plasma TVs also use three times the amount of electricity as a CRT
> display.

I didn't know that.  I need to replace Rob's TV here in the bedroom (the
picture is slowly getting darker and darker) and am just starting to do my
homework.  Recommendations?

Pam S.  intrigued
Jo Firey - 19 Mar 2008 18:09 GMT
>> TV? Television set? What has that got to do with cats? A lot!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> LCD and plasma TVs also use three times the amount of electricity as a CRT
> display.

I would swear you were being an alarmist, only I did have a computer monitor
catch fire a few years ago.

Come to think of it, that is the only thing ever to catch fire in my home or
office.

Jo
MatSav - 19 Mar 2008 21:12 GMT
> "MatSav" <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot | pipex | dot
> | com> wrote in message
> news:ZOqdnfM6lrtng0PanZ2dnUVZ8h6dnZ2d@pipex.net...

>> ...electrical faults are a major cause of house fires. Too
>> much of a risk, for you and your master. Either get rid, or
>> get fixed. NOW!!!!

> I would swear you were being an alarmist, only I did have a
> computer monitor catch fire a few years ago.
>
> Come to think of it, that is the only thing ever to catch fire
> in my home or office.

As did I. Fortunately, it wasn't at home - it was at a Scout HQ,
and was extinguished before any major damage occurred. The fault
was thought to have originated at the removable power lead
connection socket on the monitor, as there were signs of arcing.
The symptoms were similar to the OP - cut-out without any known
reason after a random time.

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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 19 Mar 2008 22:02 GMT
> "Jo Firey" <jofirey@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

>> I would swear you were being an alarmist, only I did have a
>> computer monitor catch fire a few years ago.
>>
>> Come to think of it, that is the only thing ever to catch fire
>> in my home or office.

> As did I. Fortunately, it wasn't at home - it was at a Scout HQ,
> and was extinguished before any major damage occurred.

So, I guess nobody liked my mosaic idea? :) OK, I didn't really
think anyone, much less Hans, was going to jump on it for real, but
I *did* think it was a very cool idea. And not technically my idea
at all, but that of the artist. I wish I could post photos. I'll bet
she has a website, but I don't remember her name at the moment.

Joyce

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jmcquown - 19 Mar 2008 22:05 GMT
> MatSav <matthew | dot | savage | at | dsl | dot | pipex | dot | com>
> wrote:
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>
> Joyce

I loved the mosaic idea!  Not something I'd bother trying to do, but cool.

Jill
Debbie Wilson - 17 Mar 2008 09:32 GMT
> So, the question is: What should I do? I don't want want to be cruel to him
> by taking away this nice, warm resting place, but on the other hand, I don't
> want the cruel TV set to decide the time I should use for watching it,
> neither. It surely needs a replacement. It's a delicate problem: Should I be
> cruel to Teti by buying a new TV, or should I let the old TV set be cruel to
> me for ever?

I recently upgraded my pair of CRT computer monitors (2 x 17-inch) to a
large flat-screen display. Willow has until now done the same as Teti -
slept blissfully on top of them for warmth in the winter. After the new
screen arrived, she thought she would do the same and jumped up onto it!
I don't know who was more horrified - me at the imminent destruction of
the new screen, or her at the sudden lack of standing room`2 She hasn't
tried it again but still looks at it and doesn't quite believe her old
sleeping spot has shrunk to only one inch wide. Poor Willow. Mummy is
cruel.

Deb.
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Adrian - 17 Mar 2008 12:17 GMT
> TV? Television set? What has that got to do with cats? A lot!
>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> I need some advice here...

Buy the new TV, then fit a shelf above it, maybe with a heat pad, for Teti's
exclusive use. If you make proper arrangements he may forgive you in time.
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Ted Davis - 17 Mar 2008 13:49 GMT
> Buy the new TV, then fit a shelf above it, maybe with a heat pad, for
> Teti's exclusive use. If you make proper arrangements he may forgive you
> in time.

I did that, not so much for the cats as for a place to put the satellite
receiver and some of the sound system speakers. I have to put a smaller
shelf over the receiver to keep cats from sitting on it, and worse,
throwing up on/in it.

A for heat, plasma TVs give off more heat then LCDs (but cost more to
operate).

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Jo Firey - 17 Mar 2008 17:56 GMT
> TV? Television set? What has that got to do with cats? A lot!
>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> I need some advice here...

I must say that Teti has you quite thoroughly trained.  To the point you
confuse inconvenience with cruelty.  (But Teti likely confuses them as well)
He will survive.  He will probably demand quid pro quo, but they do that
anyway.

And a little unasked for advice.  I really liked our LCD TV that we put in
the bedroom.  But after two years we are having fits with 'image retention'.
They insist it isn't burn in as the process is different.  But the results
are the same.  Next time I'll go with a name brand like Sony rather than try
to save money with a less well known brand.  Next time I'll go with the
extended warranty as well, as long as I'm sure that's covered.  Extended
warranties are a rip-off, but so are televisions that don't last two years.

Jo
MatSav - 17 Mar 2008 23:14 GMT
> ... a little unasked for advice.  I really liked our LCD TV
> that we put in the bedroom.  But after two years we are having
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> covered.  Extended warranties are a rip-off, but so are
> televisions that don't last two years.

The average lifetime of a plasma TV is only 5,000 hours (about 5
years worth of normal viewing). LCD TVs fair a little better.
Take a look at
http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdtv/lcdtv-lifetime.shtml for
just one source of advice.

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bastXXXette@sonic.net - 18 Mar 2008 00:36 GMT
> > ... a little unasked for advice.  I really liked our LCD TV
> > that we put in the bedroom.  But after two years we are having
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> > covered.  Extended warranties are a rip-off, but so are
> > televisions that don't last two years.

> The average lifetime of a plasma TV is only 5,000 hours (about 5
> years worth of normal viewing). LCD TVs fair a little better.
> Take a look at
> http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdtv/lcdtv-lifetime.shtml for
> just one source of advice.

I had my last TV for 20 years. And it wasn't the screen that stopped
functioning when I finally replaced it.

I've had my current TV (also LCD) for 11 years, still in perfect
condition.

Not sure I ever want to buy a plasma after hearing all this! Maybe I'll
wait until they improve the lifespan before plunking down megabucks
on one.

Do the same problems exist for flat-screen computer monitors? I would
imagine so, but I'm not sure how much alike the technologies are. I've
had my current flat screen for about 6 months, so it's too soon to tell
how long it'll last. My last monitor did bite the dust. I had it for
7-plus years, which seems like kind of a short lifespan to me, but the
people who did QA on those probably didn't put sleeping cats on the heat
vents. :)

Joyce

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Marina - 18 Mar 2008 05:45 GMT
> So, the question is: What should I do? I don't want want to be cruel to him
> by taking away this nice, warm resting place, but on the other hand, I don't
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I need some advice here...

How about cleaning out all the cat fur that must have accumulated inside
the TV by now? ;) Who knows, it may just need a clean-out and will then
work for another 13 years.

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Kyla  =^..^= - 20 Mar 2008 12:01 GMT
"Marina"

>> So, the question is: What should I do? I don't want want to be cruel to
>> him by taking away this nice, warm resting place, but on the other hand,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> the TV by now? ;) Who knows, it may just need a clean-out and will then
> work for another 13 years.

Good advice Marina:)  LOL
Kyla
--wondering what I'm doing up at 4 am

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