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Feline Diabetes
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kilikini - 14 Mar 2008 22:51 GMT I'm beginning to suspect that my elderly, formerly stray cat, Miss Puakea Makana has feline diabetes. (Yes, I'll get her into a Vet's office in the next couple of days for a blood test to be sure.)
Anyway, Pua's 10 + years, getting thinner slowly, she drinks a HECK of a lot of water, but otherwise she eats normally, plays normally and her "bathroom" habits are fine. Her eyes are clear, her nose is pink and her fur is nice and thick.
I've done a Google research on seemingly healthy cats and the outcome, in my opinion, is screaming diabetes.
Does anyone else have a diabetic cat? Is it easy to live with? Do you change their food?
Again, I can't be sure if this is the problem until I make an appointment with the Vet. Meanwhile, she's getting wet food in the evening and she nibbles on the dry during the day. Thanks for any insight!
kili
Matthew - 14 Mar 2008 23:04 GMT Yes Kili My rumble is diabetic and insulin free for almost 2 years now. In the begining it was rough taking Rumble back and forth to have his curve that the weekly testing done.
Under advice of some good friends here and the other groups. I switched My Rumble to Fancy feast diet it was the best one that had the most choices with gravy which is all Rumble will touch. He goes in for a curve here soon to make sure his levels are ok.
I had to give rumble insulin shots far awhile. This is how we rescued Ka'shay if Rumble would have not been sick I wuld have never heard the pitful meow that called out to me saying I am not happy take me home http://s119.photobucket.com/albums/o134/nomoreretail/?action=view¤t=Jun21_ 0002-1.jpg
http://felinediabetes.com/ http://www.geocities.com/jmpeerson/frugal.html
Kili I want you to read this I think it was Baha that made me read this when Rumble was first diagnosed http://felinediabetes.com/newdiag.htm
You were the first to respond to the post when I told the group about Rumble's problem it was 6/26/2006 http://groups.google.com/group/rec.pets.cats.anecdotes/browse_thread/thread/d2c3 f0120a60f753/20afe0b08b1ff505?hl=en&q=rumble&lnk=ol&
> I'm beginning to suspect that my elderly, formerly stray cat, Miss Puakea > Makana has feline diabetes. (Yes, I'll get her into a Vet's office in the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > kili kilikini - 15 Mar 2008 12:02 GMT > Yes Kili My rumble is diabetic and insulin free for almost 2 years > now. In the begining it was rough taking Rumble back and forth to [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Rumble's problem it was 6/26/2006 > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.pets.cats.anecdotes/browse_thread/thread/d2c3 f0120a60f753/20afe0b08b1ff505?hl=en&q=rumble&lnk=ol& Thanks, Matthew I appreciate your comments very much. We'll get Pua in ASAP to have her tested and, I guess it's Fancy Feast time!
kili
jmcquown - 15 Mar 2008 13:42 GMT >> Yes Kili My rumble is diabetic and insulin free for almost 2 years >> now. In the begining it was rough taking Rumble back and forth to [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > kili Read the ingredients side by side against other brands. It's been a long time since Persia could eat FF but IIRC some of the canned stuff at WalMart (you have one of those, right?) was the same thing and about 15 cents cheaper per can.
Of course, get the vet's diagnosis, first. Persia isn't losing weight but she drinks a LOT of water. I notice it more since she got her Drinkwell kitty fountain some years ago; shes slurps at the running water LOL
Jill
kilikini - 15 Mar 2008 15:10 GMT >>> Yes Kili My rumble is diabetic and insulin free for almost 2 years >>> now. In the begining it was rough taking Rumble back and forth to [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > running water LOL > Jill Good suggestion, Jill. We had to re-up the kibble today and we *did* look at ingredients on a couple of different brands in the hopes there may be less grain in one vs. the one we've been using. Publix brand is higher in protein & taurine than Purina, so we're mixing the two. So far, in the short hour we've been home, the cats have been eating it up. I suspect we'll have to refill the bowl in a few hours. We also got some small cans of Publix "fancy" wet food, which they all seem to like and again, the ingredients looked to be better than Friskies. I couldn't justify the cost of Fancy Feast compared to Publix brand right now. Publix is only $.35 a can and FF was about $.85. One brand of wet that none of mine will eat is 9-Lives; it must be really bad to turn up the noses of 3 cats! LOL.
kili
Matthew - 15 Mar 2008 18:05 GMT >>>> Yes Kili My rumble is diabetic and insulin free for almost 2 years >>>> now. In the begining it was rough taking Rumble back and forth to [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > kili Kili you are right about other brands. I use FF because of the food recall and when Spirit was alive being poisoned by Wal-Mart's brand of food. Ifyou do use FF the best place to buy it is Sam's club or BJ's but there are other bands and what the vet says. Just don't automatically believe the science diet crap
jmcquown - 15 Mar 2008 20:33 GMT >>>>> Yes Kili My rumble is diabetic and insulin free for almost 2 years >>>>> now. In the begining it was rough taking Rumble back and forth to [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > there are other bands and what the vet says. Just don't automatically > believe the science diet crap kili has a problem in that her shopping choices are limited. There's no Sam's Club (which, in case you didn't know, is owned by WalMart) in her area, at least not that I know of. I can't recall the other brand I compared to FF when Persia could still eat it; it wasn't a store brand but it was virtually identical to FF and a lot cheaper.
Jill
kilikini - 15 Mar 2008 21:08 GMT >>>>>> Yes Kili My rumble is diabetic and insulin free for almost 2 >>>>>> years now. In the begining it was rough taking Rumble back and [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > Jill We do have a WalMart, but a Sam's club is over an hour away and we don't have a membership. Until I get to a Vet by Monday or Tuesday, I'm going with whatever store-brand food has the best nutritional value (from what I can tell, anyway). More protein, less grain.
I was worried about possible contamination in the food, too, because my MIL's d*g passed away from the Mighty Dog packets that came from the place in China.
Meanwhile, since we don't even know what the problem is, yet, a change in diet can't hurt.
kili
Matthew - 16 Mar 2008 05:36 GMT >>>>>> Yes Kili My rumble is diabetic and insulin free for almost 2 years >>>>>> now. In the begining it was rough taking Rumble back and forth to [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > > Jill No problem Jill I did not want her to think that FF was the only way. For me it was due to Rumble being a spoiled fur nut.
Matthew - 15 Mar 2008 18:02 GMT >> Yes Kili My rumble is diabetic and insulin free for almost 2 years >> now. In the begining it was rough taking Rumble back and forth to [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > kili Kili thre are other brands out there I chose Fancy feast because of it variety with gravy. None of the others had over 12 choices that had gravy. Rumble will not eat anything with out gravy. There is a list on that site I posted eralier that has all the brands on it.
kilikini - 15 Mar 2008 21:02 GMT >>> Yes Kili My rumble is diabetic and insulin free for almost 2 years >>> now. In the begining it was rough taking Rumble back and forth to [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > gravy. Rumble will not eat anything with out gravy. There is a list > on that site I posted eralier that has all the brands on it. I don't think Pua has a preference for gravy, but I'm not sure. She's (so-far) liking the Winn-Dixie brand of cat food and the Publix brand. We'll see how it goes. :~)
kili
Kreisleriana - 15 Mar 2008 00:02 GMT > I'm beginning to suspect that my elderly, formerly stray cat, Miss Puakea > Makana has feline diabetes. (Yes, I'll get her into a Vet's office in the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "bathroom" habits are fine. Her eyes are clear, her nose is pink and her > fur is nice and thick. I would worry about a kidney problem. Do get her to a vet.
kilikini - 15 Mar 2008 12:25 GMT >> I'm beginning to suspect that my elderly, formerly stray cat, Miss >> Puakea Makana has feline diabetes. (Yes, I'll get her into a Vet's [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I would worry about a kidney problem. Do get her to a vet. She doesn't seem to have a problem with using the litterboxes, though. (She was just busy scratching at the lid of the box. She's never quite learned the whole litter procedure. Cover your mess, stinky girl!) And, trust me, I'm sitting RIGHT next to both boxes and can tell! When all three furballs are done with their morning "constitutional", those boxes are getting cleaned out. Yikes. At least I clean the boxes daily which is more than I can say for my husband's participation with the pet rats' cage!
I digress......
Don't most cats with kidney problems miss the box or pee in odd places? What are any other signs of kidney failure?
Thanks!
kili
polonca12000 - 21 Mar 2008 19:44 GMT >> I'm beginning to suspect that my elderly, formerly stray cat, Miss Puakea >> Makana has feline diabetes. (Yes, I'll get her into a Vet's office in the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> "bathroom" habits are fine. Her eyes are clear, her nose is pink and her >> fur is nice and thick.
>Kreisleriana wrote: > I would worry about a kidney problem. Do get her to a vet. Lots and lots of purrs for Miss Puakea Makana and gentle hugs for you, kili, Polonca and Soncek
Sharon - 15 Mar 2008 11:17 GMT Have the vet check the thyroid levels. Sounds like hyperthyroidism to me. Treatable, but get it diagnosed fast.
> I'm beginning to suspect that my elderly, formerly stray cat, Miss Puakea > Makana has feline diabetes. �(Yes, I'll get her into a Vet's office in the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > kili kilikini - 15 Mar 2008 12:37 GMT > Have the vet check the thyroid levels. Sounds like hyperthyroidism to > me. Treatable, but get it diagnosed fast. Thanks, Sharon. It could be something that simple. If my husband doesn't work on Monday (heck, he hasn't worked in a month, why would Monday be any different!) he'll be able to take us in since I don't have a car. My main concern is her recent loss of weight. Again, she's playing fine, she's eating, she's affectionate - all good signs, but she's been getting a bit thin this past month and she's drinking a tad too much water for my liking. Hey, she can have as much water as she wants but 3 glassfulls a day with sips at the joint waterbowl seems excessive. We've had Pua now for about 3 years and she's only ever drank a full glass of water a day - now it's up to 3. Something isn't right, you know? In any case, it's only been in the past month or so, so whatever it is I've caught it early.
Thanks for your suggestions!
kili
Marina - 15 Mar 2008 14:36 GMT > We've had Pua now for about 3 > years and she's only ever drank a full glass of water a day - now it's up to > 3. Something isn't right, you know? In any case, it's only been in the > past month or so, so whatever it is I've caught it early. The weight loss can definitely be a sign of hyperthyroidism. That's what alerted the vet to Frank's hyperT. I don't remember if he drank more than usual, but with diabetes, Pua would also pee much more than usual.
I don't have experience with diabetes in cats, but have suffered from type I for 38 years myself now, so if you need info in general, just ask. :)
Purrs on their way for Ms Pua.
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kilikini - 15 Mar 2008 15:10 GMT >> We've had Pua now for about 3 >> years and she's only ever drank a full glass of water a day - now [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > ask. :) > Purrs on their way for Ms Pua. Thanks, Marina! We changed food today and I'll see if that changes anything. :~)
kili
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 15 Mar 2008 21:40 GMT >> I'm beginning to suspect that my elderly, formerly stray cat, Miss Puakea >> Makana has feline diabetes. ?(Yes, I'll get her into a Vet's office in the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> habits are fine. ?Her eyes are clear, her nose is pink and her fur is nice >> and thick.
> Have the vet check the thyroid levels. Sounds like hyperthyroidism to > me. Treatable, but get it diagnosed fast. I'd have her kidney function tested, too.
Purrs for Miss Pua!
Joyce
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kilikini - 15 Mar 2008 22:57 GMT >>> I'm beginning to suspect that my elderly, formerly stray cat, Miss >>> Puakea Makana has feline diabetes. ?(Yes, I'll get her into a Vet's [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Joyce Thanks, Joyce. You're the second to suggest kidneys, so that may be an issue. I'll find out!
kili
Matthew - 16 Mar 2008 05:38 GMT >>>> I'm beginning to suspect that my elderly, formerly stray cat, Miss >>>> Puakea Makana has feline diabetes. ?(Yes, I'll get her into a Vet's [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > kili your vet will have to do a curve and a full blood work up the vet will keep the furball for several hours when this goes on I believe rumble had to fast for the night but your vet will inform you of everything I dropped him off at 11 and picked him up at 5 boy was he mad at me
kilikini - 16 Mar 2008 09:33 GMT >>>>> I'm beginning to suspect that my elderly, formerly stray cat, Miss >>>>> Puakea Makana has feline diabetes. ?(Yes, I'll get her into a [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > everything I dropped him off at 11 and picked him up at 5 boy was > he mad at me LOL, I can imagine! I don't like to get poked at prodded at the doctor's, either. :~)
kili
Sherry - 16 Mar 2008 05:39 GMT > I'm beginning to suspect that my elderly, formerly stray cat, Miss Puakea > Makana has feline diabetes. (Yes, I'll get her into a Vet's office in the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > kili Kili, I hope Karen C. sees this and chimes in. She's dealt with Pearl's diabetes for years, and IIRC, she belongs to a specific group for owners of diabetic cats, where they exchange information about the disease. Wish I could help you--I have no experience with diabetes. (But I'm noticing Yoda with his head stuck in the water bowl an awful lot lately, and have, just like you, begun to wonder, given his age.
Sherry
Marina - 16 Mar 2008 06:27 GMT > Kili, I hope Karen C. sees this and chimes in. She's dealt with > Pearl's diabetes for years, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > an awful > lot lately, and have, just like you, begun to wonder, given his age. I was hoping Karen would post, too. I think it's a yahoo group on diabetic cats. Where is Karen, anyway?
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Sherry - 16 Mar 2008 06:29 GMT > > Kili, I hope Karen C. sees this and chimes in. She's dealt with > > Pearl's diabetes for years, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > -- > Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. I don't know! Just busy with IRL I would guess. I still have her email address. I'll drop her a line and give her a heads-up about Kili's question.
Sherry
kilikini - 16 Mar 2008 09:33 GMT >>> Kili, I hope Karen C. sees this and chimes in. She's dealt with >>> Pearl's diabetes for years, [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Sherry Thanks, again, Sherry. I appreciate it.
kili
Wayne Mitchell - 16 Mar 2008 13:51 GMT >I was hoping Karen would post, too. I think it's a yahoo group on >diabetic cats. Where is Karen, anyway? I haven't seen any messages from Karen lately in the groups we have in common. She has a blog for Pearl here: http://pearlthediabeticcat.blogspot.com/ It has good links to several diabetic groups.
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kilikini - 16 Mar 2008 17:17 GMT >> I was hoping Karen would post, too. I think it's a yahoo group on >> diabetic cats. Where is Karen, anyway? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://pearlthediabeticcat.blogspot.com/ > It has good links to several diabetic groups. Thanks for the link, Wayne!
kili
kilikini - 16 Mar 2008 09:33 GMT >> I'm beginning to suspect that my elderly, formerly stray cat, Miss >> Puakea Makana has feline diabetes. (Yes, I'll get her into a Vet's [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Sherry Thanks, Sherry. Let's hope Yoda is just thirsty!!!!!!!!!!!
kili
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