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jmcquown - 07 Mar 2008 21:56 GMT
We had bought a little stuffed animal bunny rabbit and taken it to Dad last
week.  The nurses said he always wanted it on the bed next to him.

A couple of days after he died I saw an Easter display that reminded me.  So
I called the hospital.  "Oh, I don't know, I wasn't here at the time.  Let
me leave a note for the  staff who was here."  I didn't hear anything.  I
called again.  "There's a note here about it; I'll make sure someone calls
you."  I finally got a call yesterday.  "It was sent to the funeral home
along with his other personal effects."

I sincerely doubted this, folks.  I had met with, then my mother and I met
with the funeral director and his staff several times prior to the funeral,
not to mention many telephone conversations.  They never mentioned anything
about this stuffed rabbit.  Still, I  called the funeral home.  The funeral
director, Bill, said, "Jill, I picked up your father's body personally.
There was nothing like that with him."

I KNEW IT!  Some a.shole on the nursing staff probably thought, "Oh, this
would be nice for my kid's Easter basket!"  (Never mind there was a *reason*
we selected this stuffed rabbit to make him smile and it sure wasn't
Easter.)  At any rate, someone stole the damn rabbit.  Grrrrrrrrrrrr!

Jill
Kyla  =^..^= - 07 Mar 2008 22:27 GMT
Those cretins!
I'm sorry that happened Jill :(
And again I'm so sorry for your loss of your Dad.
I lost both my parents last year.
(((HUG)))
Kyla

"jmcquown"
> We had bought a little stuffed animal bunny rabbit and taken it to Dad
> last week.  The nurses said he always wanted it on the bed next to him.
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>
> Jill
jofirey - 07 Mar 2008 22:31 GMT
> We had bought a little stuffed animal bunny rabbit and taken it to Dad
> last week.  The nurses said he always wanted it on the bed next to him.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Jill

Yes someone stole it or someone pitched it in the trash.

I try to tell myself when this kind of thing happens at such a time it does
serve a purpose.

Most of us at some level, when we experience grief also experience a degree
of anger.  (Or absolute fury even)  Maybe anger at ourselves which we
usually know how do deal with, and anger with God and the world, but also
anger at the person who is gone.  The last one can be really hard to deal
with.  I know my sister and I are still very angry with our brother for not
being here.  He was supposed to be here for this part of his life, for this
part of our lives.  How could he not!

At least when things like this with the rabbit happen, it gives an outlet
for some of that anger.  And hopefully keeps us from taking it out on each
other.

I hope for the most part things are going gently and peacefully for your
mother and for you.  Purrs and hugs are still on the way.

Jo
Sherry - 07 Mar 2008 22:31 GMT
> We had bought a little stuffed animal bunny rabbit and taken it to Dad last
> week.  The nurses said he always wanted it on the bed next to him.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Jill

Jill, most hospitals do have "lost and found", where articles left in
rooms are taken. Your
phone call was probably taken by a nurse who was busy, or just didn't
otherwise want to
take the time to track it down. Why don't you try the hospital again,
it sounds like this
is very important to you. You might ask for the charge nurse.
Sherry
jmcquown - 07 Mar 2008 23:04 GMT
On Mar 7, 3:56 pm, "jmcquown" <j_mcqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
> We had bought a little stuffed animal bunny rabbit and taken it to Dad
> last
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Jill

Jill, most hospitals do have "lost and found", where articles left in
rooms are taken. Your
phone call was probably taken by a nurse who was busy, or just didn't
otherwise want to
take the time to track it down. Why don't you try the hospital again,
it sounds like this
is very important to you. You might ask for the charge nurse.
Sherry

The charge nurse changes daily at this hospital.  But they claimed the
checked the lost & found as well as a room where non-valuables are stored.
This was before they called and said it was sent to the funeral home with
his personal effects.  Heh, he didn't *have* any personal effects other than
the rabbit.  (When the nursing home called 911 he was transported wearing a
hospital gown and socks.)  So when she said "personal effects" I knew right
then and there it was BS.

Jill
Kyla =^..^= - 08 Mar 2008 01:35 GMT
> Jill, most hospitals do have "lost and found", where articles left in
> rooms are taken. Your
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Jill

Like I said before Jill, that is SO sick and wrong of that nurse!
Now, I'm really mad at 'them', not that helps YOU any,
but still, my heart goes out to you and your Mom.
Love and Hugs
Kyla
Sherry - 08 Mar 2008 19:04 GMT
> > Jill, most hospitals do have "lost and found", where articles left in
> > rooms are taken. Your
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Love and Hugs
> Kyla

I wouldn't be so quick to blame the nursing staff. Remember, nurses
know better than
anyone the type of bacteria/germs that abound in hospitals. They would
sooner take
home a dead rat (or staph) to their kids than a stuffed toy that can't
be sanitized.
There are *many* people in and out of a hospital room besides nurses:
orderlies, volunteers,
housekeeping, etc.
Sherry
Kyla =^..^= - 09 Mar 2008 01:32 GMT
"Sherry"
On Mar 7, 7:35 pm, "Kyla =^..^=" :
> > Jill, most hospitals do have "lost and found", where articles left in
> > rooms are taken. Your
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> Love and Hugs
> Kyla

I wouldn't be so quick to blame the nursing staff. Remember, nurses
know better than
anyone the type of bacteria/germs that abound in hospitals. They would
sooner take home a dead rat (or staph) to their kids than a stuffed toy that
can't be sanitized.
There are *many* people in and out of a hospital room besides nurses:
orderlies, volunteers, housekeeping, etc.
Sherry

True, but still, whoever did it...shame on them!
Kyla
Joy - 08 Mar 2008 00:17 GMT
> We had bought a little stuffed animal bunny rabbit and taken it to Dad
> last week.  The nurses said he always wanted it on the bed next to him.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Jill

Some people's self-centered behavior is incredible!

Joy
mlbriggs - 08 Mar 2008 01:16 GMT
> We had bought a little stuffed animal bunny rabbit and taken it to Dad
> last week.  The nurses said he always wanted it on the bed next to him.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Jill

From personal observation:  This is not uncommon in nursing homes and
hospitals.  Turn your back and it's gone.  MLB
Kyla =^..^= - 08 Mar 2008 01:40 GMT
> From personal observation:  This is not uncommon in nursing homes and
> hospitals.  Turn your back and it's gone.  MLB

Looks that way MLB...
*sigh*..cretins they are
When I was in the ER on my 61st bithrday,2 years ago,  a young nurse brought
me a stuffed musical bunny that played Easter Bonnet and a Get Well Balloon.
That was so sweet of her.  So I spent my bithrday in Valley hospital having
a blood clot removed from my leg..gah!
But that gesture was really appreciated by me .
Hug
Kyla
mlbriggs - 08 Mar 2008 06:43 GMT
>> From personal observation:  This is not uncommon in nursing homes and
>> hospitals.  Turn your back and it's gone.  MLB
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> was really appreciated by me . Hug
> Kyla

When I went in for gall bladder surgery, my son lent me a small (very
nice0 radio to put on my pillow.  After the surgery, I went for a short
walk down the hall.  When I returned the radio was gone.  I immediately
reported it to the nurses desk.  
about five hours later, security called and they had just received the
report.  Nothing was ever done about it.  Never take anything of value to
a hospital.
Kyla =^..^= - 08 Mar 2008 07:21 GMT
>>> From personal observation:  This is not uncommon in nursing homes and
>>> hospitals.  Turn your back and it's gone.  MLB
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> report.  Nothing was ever done about it.  Never take anything of value to
> a hospital.

I think that is a general rule.  That really sucks!
Kyla
--who still has her gallbladder
hopitus - 08 Mar 2008 18:23 GMT
> >> From personal observation:  This is not uncommon in nursing homes and
> >> hospitals.  Turn your back and it's gone.  MLB
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> report.  Nothing was ever done about it.  Never take anything of value to
> a hospital.

Key word here is "of value". One person's garbage is another's
treasure.
Hospital "security" forces usually consists of people who, for one
reason
or another, were unable to remain in law enforcement employment.
Kyla =^..^= - 09 Mar 2008 01:35 GMT
"hopitus"

> Key word here is "of value". One person's garbage is another's
> treasure.
> Hospital "security" forces usually consists of people who, for one
> reason or another, were unable to remain in law enforcement employment.

We shame on 'whoever' did it!!
that iz all
Kyla
Granby - 09 Mar 2008 01:45 GMT
I am beat.  Set my alarm for the wrong day.  In the middle of last night,
the man on the radio said to move the time ahead and, I did.  Stayed with
Grandma for what was supposed to be two hours and turned into six.  I am
more than a little hissed.  The man/kid decided to go to a friends and play
video games since there was someone with Grandma.

> "hopitus"
>>
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> that iz all
> Kyla
Kyla =^..^= - 09 Mar 2008 01:57 GMT
Geez, I hope you get better sleep tonite.  Blast that kid/man.
Hug
Kyla
"Granby" <
>I am beat.  Set my alarm for the wrong day.  In the middle of last night,
>the man on the radio said to move the time ahead and, I did.  Stayed with
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>> that iz all
>> Kyla
Granby - 09 Mar 2008 02:15 GMT
If someone doesn't answer you soon about the pix, I may just have to fit I
feel building!!!!  Not really, just frustrating when 2 turns into 6, I
missed my Saturday nap.  Oh, I was at work for four hours before this
happened.  Must be getting OLD.
> Geez, I hope you get better sleep tonite.  Blast that kid/man.
> Hug
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>> that iz all
>>> Kyla
Kyla =^..^= - 09 Mar 2008 06:41 GMT
Oh, no worries.  I just woke up from a 2 hour nap and am gonna go to bed
early tonite.  I had 2 cats tucking me in, Mosey by my head and PookieCat,
tucked himself by my rear end and Sqweex was sleeping by my feet.
You just get ssome rest sweetie, and take care.  I'll probably be offline
all day tomorrow as I have some Cat cards to send out and letters to write
to my daughter and some friends, and my Sisters. And no word back from
somebody else about that question.
Love you
Hug
Kyla
"Granby" <
> If someone doesn't answer you soon about the pix, I may just have to fit I
> feel building!!!!  Not really, just frustrating when 2 turns into 6, I
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>>>> that iz all
>>>> Kyla
tanadashoes - 08 Mar 2008 05:22 GMT
> I KNEW IT!  Some a.shole on the nursing staff probably thought, "Oh, this
> would be nice for my kid's Easter basket!"  (Never mind there was a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Jill

Maybe not Jill.  When Rob was in Chapel Hill, Mandy picked out and bought
him a stuffed kitty.  It was placed in the bed with him where he hugged it
and kept it with him.  A couple of days later I was alone with Rob and he
seemed fretful.  I looked around, no kitty.  I asked the staff members what
was with this.  They said that he'd had it with him that morning and they
didn't know what was going on.  Then one of them remembered that
housekeeping had been in his room and that his bedding had been changed.
They called down and neither department knew for sure about the kitty.
However Housekeeping said that it might explain the strange threads that
were in a load of laundry.  P. O.ed I went down to the gift store and bought
him another kitty just like the one Mandy had selected for him.  I gave it
to him and he settled down right away.  I then went to the nurses station
and told them that, if the kitty disappeared again, I was going to make them
wade through the peed on laundry for it.  For some reason they believed me.
The kitty still sleeps with Rob and is a great comfort when things get rough
for him.

Pam S. sorry about the bunny
Kyla =^..^= - 08 Mar 2008 07:29 GMT
"tanadashoes">
> "jmcquown"
>> I KNEW IT!  Some a.shole on the nursing staff probably thought, "Oh, this
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Pam S. sorry about the bunny

Oooo I guess you told them Pam!

What IS wrong with people.  Geez, you can go to a Dollar Store and buy a
stuffed animal, which I did for my neighbor who is having chemo for her
recurring cancer.  And I'm poor.
Well, 'wealthy' in the things that really matter:)
I got her a rather nice stuffed teddy bear for her to hug while she was
feeling like crap from the chemo.  for a dollar.  Poor woman.
Hugs and Bright Blessings
Kyla
Still sorry too about the bunny :(
MaryL - 08 Mar 2008 14:33 GMT
> We had bought a little stuffed animal bunny rabbit and taken it to Dad
> last week.  The nurses said he always wanted it on the bed next to him.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Jill

On a similar note...My mother spent several years in a nursing home.  I
visited her several times a week throughout her time there, so I always knew
when something went missing (and that was frequent, although not as bad as I
have heard about some other locations).  My sister and I bought her a Beanie
plough horse because Mother grew up on a farm in rural Ohio, and her father
used plough horses at that time.  The Beanie was gone *the very next day.*
She also loved Hershey's kisses.  I would take a bag in and give her a few
at each visit.  A friend gave her a little container that we used for awhile
to store the kisses.  Well, the entire package would be empty in just one or
two days.  The aides said Mother probably ate them.  Impossible!  Finally, I
bought a little lock box that I kept in her dresser.  I also painted our
name in *very large* white letters over the black top to make it unappealing
to anyone else.  It had the type of lock where I would enter a code to open
it.  That's a rather ridiculous way to store candy, but it worked.  From
then on, there was always candy available for her.

Mother had lived with me for five years, and I was her sole caregiver.
During her last few months with me, I hired a nursing service to come while
I was at work or when I would leave for the evening.  Her mobility and
cognition had declined to such an extent that it was no longer safe to leave
her alone.  I finally had to place her in a nursing home when she became
completely bed-ridden.  I know she would never have wanted to spend her
final years like that.  She had been a vibrant, caring woman (and I even
received calls and messages from students she had taught in first grade
many, many years earlier).  Somehow, she remained cheerful and loving
throughout all those years when she was flat on her back and frequently in
pain.  Her short-term memory was almost completely gone, so she often did
not know that we had visited.  Nevertheless, her eyes would light up every
time one of us entered the room, and she retained all her "motherly"
instincts to the very end.  She would remind me "not to get too tired" or
"not to work to hard."  My brother and sister live about 1,500 miles away,
but both of them flew down for visits two or three times a year.  She was 91
when she died last September.

Despite the numerous problems I noted, I know she received better care than
I possibly could have given her.  I also know she received much better care
because she received so many visitors, and I was a strong *advocate.*
*Everyone* at the nursing home knew me!!  It is not fair for those patients
who do not have advocates to say they receive lesser care, but it
unfortunately is true.  If any of you have loved ones in a nursing home or
long-time stay in a hospital, be sure to visit at various times of the day
instead of sticking to a routine.  It is better for staff *not* to know when
you may arrive.  I arrived much later than usual on one occasion and heard
an aide screaming at another patient and using abusive language.  I reported
that, too, and I never saw that aide again.

MaryL
Charleen Welton - 08 Mar 2008 14:42 GMT
>> We had bought a little stuffed animal bunny rabbit and taken it to Dad
>> last week.  The nurses said he always wanted it on the bed next to him.
[quoted text clipped - 69 lines]
>
> MaryL

Amen.

Charleen
Cheryl P. - 08 Mar 2008 14:55 GMT
> We had bought a little stuffed animal bunny rabbit and taken it to Dad
> last week.  The nurses said he always wanted it on the bed next to him.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Jill

People often steal from the sick, dying and dead. There's a reason
hospitals advise you not to bring anything of value with you. It's
hurtful and infuriating, but there's probably not much you can do about
it now except file a complaint which might make the thief, should he/she
hear about it, feel a bit guilty and maybe not do it next time.

Sometimes it's possible to find the culprit - a woman whose arrangement
was stolen from her mother's grave searched local cemeteries until she
found it, got the custodian to witness where it was and that she could
identify it by a message she'd put inside it (obviously an artificial
arrangement she made herself), and took it back. I can't imagine giving
a patient's stolen memento or memorial arrangement to anyone I loved or
even liked, but there are a people out there who think that sort of
thing is fine.

Cheryl
tanadashoes - 08 Mar 2008 23:17 GMT
> People often steal from the sick, dying and dead. There's a reason
> hospitals advise you not to bring anything of value with you. It's hurtful
> and infuriating, but there's probably not much you can do about it now
> except file a complaint which might make the thief, should he/she hear
> about it, feel a bit guilty and maybe not do it next time.

Part of the in-processing at WAMC (Womack Army Medical Center) included
removing my wedding band and having it placed in a padded envelop, along
with my purse, key chain, and various other potentially worthwhile items,
and having my son Mike sign for them and then take them home.  While I was
too far out of it to understand at first, when I was able to comprehend more
than that my ring was missing, I was glad that no one was going to steal it.
I asked what would have happened if I hadn't had someone to take over my
stuff and was told that it would have been put into a padded envelope,
sealed, signed across the seal, and then locked into the hospital
commander's safe along with what the hospital had in the way of information
on the patient.  That way the patient, or his next of kin, could reclaim the
package and there would be a smaller chance of loss.  It helps.

Pam S.
Kyla =^..^= - 09 Mar 2008 01:54 GMT
"tanadashoes" >
> "Cheryl P." >>
>> People often steal from the sick, dying and dead. There's a reason
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Pam S.

Yeah, that's what they did when I had a clot in my  removed a couple of
years ago, on my birthday no less, I had to give them my jeweled Cross which
I NEVER take off, but they taped my ring  to my finger and gave DH my Cat
Watch  to hold on to. that watch, is a funny thing that has a cat on the
face who's left  eye moves as it follows the mouse second hand.  So it's
face changes.
They misplaced my Cross and I was weeping, DH had given me it.
but then the lady found it and delivered it to me with profuse apologies.
I also kept a stack of beautiful laminated credited card size 23rd Psalm
cards on my bedside table/tray.. DH made them,  and offered one to
'everyone' I came in contact with.  I was in the hospital about 6 times in
2006 because of my knees and a thyroid blackout that put me there for 10
days.  I got to be known as The Psalm Lady.  Even the Chaplin took some, to
comfort some of his dying hoomis.  I still offer them to people when I go to
the store.  98% of the people I offer them to gladly accept them, but when
someone says no, I don't get offended at all, I just tell them to have a
nice day.
But that's just me.
Hug
Kyla
Kyla =^..^= - 09 Mar 2008 02:16 GMT
> Part of the in-processing at WAMC (Womack Army Medical Center) included
> removing my wedding band and having it placed in a padded envelop, along
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Pam S.

You were in the Army?  My Mom, who passed away late last Aug at age 84, was
in the Coast Guard.
My late dad was in the Navy.  He passed away late last January.
Gotta take some meds and lay down wif a cat fur my bad kneez.
I don't handle severe pain like an 7/8 on the 1-10 scale.  10 being the
worst
ATM, I'm at an 8    :/
TTYL
Hug
Kyla
hoping my new knee treatment  thingy arrives on Monday
tanadashoes - 09 Mar 2008 09:31 GMT
> You were in the Army?  My Mom, who passed away late last Aug at age 84,
> was in the Coast Guard.
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> Kyla
> hoping my new knee treatment  thingy arrives on Monday

Only as a civilian family member.  My husband, Rob, is medically retired
from the army.  Actually, he's on temporary disability.  I'm told that they
may change it to permanent in the next year or so.  If they don't, they have
to take him back into the army for the three months that he has left and let
him retire naturally.  Break my heart.  I know they aren't doing this as
they DON'T want Rob inspecting helicopters.

Pam S.
Kyla  =^..^= - 10 Mar 2008 23:43 GMT
"tanadashoes" <>
> "Kyla =^..^=" >>
>>
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>
> Only as a civilian family member.

Ah, I see.

My husband, Rob, is medically retired
> from the army.  Actually, he's on temporary disability.  I'm told that
> they may change it to permanent in the next year or so.

May I ask what his disability is?  You're always free to e-mail me.
Geez, the 'disability' in the USA is a disgrace.  I read an article in AARP
about how people have died from waiting for their disabilities to be gotten
paid for.  DH and I are both disabled, his with diabetes, and depression,
and I can't collect disability for my crap knees because I haven't 'worked'
enough in my entire life!   That sucks, so I have NO health insurance.

>  If they don't, they have to take him back into the army for the three
> months that he has left and let him retire naturally.  Break my heart.  I
> know they aren't doing this as they DON'T want Rob inspecting helicopters.
>
> Pam S.

Pam, what IS the matter with these people?
Maybe in November we'll get some good universal/afforable health care in the
USA.  And I'm voting for the Black guy.  I hate Hillary!
The Elephant party has been sk-rooing us all over the place, and we still do
NOT need to be in Iraq!!
Kyla
really hissed off
jmcquown - 13 Mar 2008 00:14 GMT
Kyla =^..^= wrote:
> "tanadashoes" <>
>> "Kyla =^..^=" >>
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> Maybe in November we'll get some good universal/afforable health care
> in the USA.  And I'm voting for the Black guy.

LOL  Kyla, are you afraid to utter his name aloud (or put it in writing)?!

Jill
Matthew - 13 Mar 2008 01:36 GMT
> Kyla =^..^= wrote:
>> "tanadashoes" <>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Jill

is there a none of above button
tanadashoes - 13 Mar 2008 05:51 GMT
> is there a none of above button

That's how I feel about them.  I don't like any of the candidates.

Pam S.
annie.wxill@gmail.com - 13 Mar 2008 19:37 GMT
...
> That's how I feel about them.  I don't like any of the candidates.
>
> Pam S.

I'm all for the end to partison politics and politics as usual.  I'm
tired of the us vs them mindset that questions the patriotism of
anyone who does not march lockstep with whoever is in power. It's
about time we started to pull together. I love seeing people get
excited and breaking records lining up to vote.  The candidate who
shows the administative and leadership ability to pull of a campaign
toward this end has my vote. (O.K., I'm in Texas, and I already voted
twice.  Once in the election and then in the caucus.)

Just to bring it to on topic, Cinder and Rosie have purred their
approval and agreed not to hiss if they meet nose to nose.
Annie
tanadashoes - 13 Mar 2008 05:51 GMT
> May I ask what his disability is?  You're always free to e-mail me.
> Geez, the 'disability' in the USA is a disgrace.  I read an article in
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> 'worked' enough in my entire life!   That sucks, so I have NO health
> insurance.

Rob has brain cancer, diabetes, cognitive issues, and occasional mobility
problems.  He's awesome, we just came back from three days at the ocean.
Rob is a natural water person, so we like to take him to the ocean on
occasion so that he can walk the beaches, visit the aquarium, and relax.
There was an article posted in alt.military.retired that included more
information about those exposed to sarin, cyclo sarin, and other chemicals
during Desert Shield/Storm.  He doesn't whine or complain, and is usually
good humored about his cognition problems.  He makes me laugh.

This cat group and the wonderful people in it have helped him get through
some difficult times.  Don't think that he  hasn't forgotten you or all the
wonderful things that you have done for our family.  Nor have I for that
matter.

Pam S>
polonca12000 - 18 Mar 2008 23:01 GMT
> Rob has brain cancer, diabetes, cognitive issues, and occasional mobility
> problems.  He's awesome, we just came back from three days at the ocean.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Pam S>

We think of you all often, sending lots and lots of purrs and hugs,
Polonca and Soncek
tanadashoes - 19 Mar 2008 05:30 GMT
>> Rob has brain cancer, diabetes, cognitive issues, and occasional mobility
>> problems.  He's awesome, we just came back from three days at the ocean.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> We think of you all often, sending lots and lots of purrs and hugs,
> Polonca and Soncek

Sweetie, you and Soncek are honestly the nicest and most caring people I've
ever read.  I know you once said that you get grouchy, but you'd never know
it from what you write in the group.

Pam S. awed by Polonca and Soncek
MaryL - 09 Mar 2008 02:26 GMT
>> People often steal from the sick, dying and dead. There's a reason
>> hospitals advise you not to bring anything of value with you. It's
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Pam S.

I was in the hospital in January (gall bladder removed plus had a kidney
stone "pulverized").  I drove myself to the hospital and was also able to
drive home the next door, with my doctor's permission.  It never occurred to
me to leave my wallet at home when I headed for the hospital because it had
my driver's license in it.  Of course, it also had my credit cards and some
cash!  A security guard came to my room with forms for me to sign, sealed
the bag in my presence, and took it "somewhere" to store in the hospital
safe.  I called and asked to have it returned when I was ready to be
discharged.  A different security guard delivered it within a matter of
minutes and had me check and sign for the contents.

MaryL
jmcquown - 09 Mar 2008 18:09 GMT
>> People often steal from the sick, dying and dead. There's a reason
>> hospitals advise you not to bring anything of value with you. It's
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> the package and there would be a smaller chance of loss.  It helps.
> Pam S.

When Dad was admitted to the hospital the first time I took everything of
value out of his wallet except his ID.  He'd panic if he didn't have his
wallet to hold on to.  After he was admitted, even though it was empty they
locked it away in one of those locking bags you see people with at the bank.
I had to raise a ruckus to get them to let me have it back (along with his
hearing aids in a small pouch) after they neglected to send them with him to
the nursing home.

The rabbit wasn't valuable, obviously.  But it had sentimental value.  So a
pox on *whoever* took it.  (And no, I don't think it got tangled up with
laundry.  The funeral home director said this hospital is very good about
placing personal items of the deceased in a bag, to be sent over with the
body.  And this is the only personal item that was there with him this
time.)

Jill
Bobblespin - 09 Mar 2008 18:32 GMT
> When Dad was admitted to the hospital the first time I took everything
> of value out of his wallet except his ID.  He'd panic if he didn't have
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Jill

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his/her armpits!

Bobble
Lesley - 09 Mar 2008 18:46 GMT
> May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his/her armpits!
>
>You forgot the other bit of that curse

"and may their arms be too short to scratch them"

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Bobblespin - 09 Mar 2008 18:52 GMT
>> May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his/her armpits!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

Thanks, I didn't know there was more.  Love it!
Bobble
hopitus - 09 Mar 2008 19:24 GMT
> >> May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his/her armpits!
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Thanks, I didn't know there was more.  Love it!
> Bobble

You rattled my cage...years ago I worked for a radiologist
who was first-gen born in USA from Syrian ethnic family
who are actually Bedouins...I used to be able to say this
in his native tongue, but it ain't Spanish (I'm fluent in) and
over the years forgot all that...*however* - this for the
bunny-bandits of Beaufort:
May the desert dogs feast on the ravaged, sun-baked bones of your
maternal parent who will nevermore rest in peace in the hereafter!
bastXXXette@sonic.net - 09 Mar 2008 23:21 GMT
> You rattled my cage...years ago I worked for a radiologist
> who was first-gen born in USA from Syrian ethnic family
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> May the desert dogs feast on the ravaged, sun-baked bones of your
> maternal parent who will nevermore rest in peace in the hereafter!

Eek, the poor mother! What did she do to deserve *that*? :)

Joyce

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hopitus - 10 Mar 2008 21:41 GMT
On Mar 9, 4:21 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:

>  > You rattled my cage...years ago I worked for a radiologist
>  > who was first-gen born in USA from Syrian ethnic family
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> --
> To send email to this address, remove the triple-X from my user name.

Naaaah, Joyce....its just Arab equivalent of "**** your old lady, or
if you
wish, Your old lady's a *****!. I always thought the Arab version is
much
more colorful.
Jack Campin - bogus address - 10 Mar 2008 22:36 GMT
> May the desert dogs feast on the ravaged, sun-baked bones of your
> maternal parent who will nevermore rest in peace in the hereafter!

I used to print this on my bookmarks which I would insert when lending
a book to somebody:

    For him that stealeth a book from this library
    Let it change into a serpent in his hand and rend him,
    Let him be struck with palsy and all his members be blasted,
    Let him languish in pain, crying aloud for mercy, and
    Let there be no surcease to his agony till he sink in dissolution.
    Let bookworms gnaw his entrails
    In token of the worm that dieth not,
    And when at last he goeth to his Þnal judgment
    Let þames of hell consume him forever and aye.

    - Curse found on the door of an old monastic library in Barcelona

(I got it from Usenet sometime in the mid-1980s).

The most all-encompassingly thorough curse I've ever heard of is this one
from mediaeval Scotland:

http://www.rootsweb.com/~sctbew/History/cursing.htm

which some people take rather too seriously:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cumbria/content/articles/2005/03/02/carlisle_cursing_stone_
feature.shtml


==== j a c k  at  c a m p i n . m e . u k  ===  <http://www.campin.me.uk> ====
Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557
CD-ROMs and free stuff:  Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts
hopitus - 13 Mar 2008 18:18 GMT
On Mar 10, 3:36 pm, Jack Campin - bogus address
<bo...@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > May the desert dogs feast on the ravaged, sun-baked bones of your
> > maternal parent who will nevermore rest in peace in the hereafter!
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557
> CD-ROMs and free stuff:  Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts

Heh....I never realized you were in Scotland. That was one helluva
curse; I read the
whole thing...talk about "colorful", LOL. Thanks for the link, Jack (I
bailed and went
to the translated version eventually).
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 11 Mar 2008 03:33 GMT
> On Mar 9, 4:21 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> much
> more colorful.

I thought the English translation for that was "your mother sits on her
haunches and bays at the moon"!
hopitus - 13 Mar 2008 03:20 GMT
On Mar 10, 8:33 pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<evgm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > On Mar 9, 4:21 pm, bastXXXe...@sonic.net wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> I thought the English translation for that was "your mother sits on her
> haunches and bays at the moon"!

ROFL
Granby - 09 Mar 2008 20:04 GMT
Haven't heard that tone for a long time.
On Mar 9, 10:32 am, Bobblespin <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

> May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his/her armpits!
>
>You forgot the other bit of that curse

"and may their arms be too short to scratch them"

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Lesley - 09 Mar 2008 18:45 GMT
> The rabbit wasn't valuable, obviously.  But it had sentimental value.

That's the problem...all hospitals have policies about items of value.
When my mum died, the nurse took off her jewellery, handed it to my
brother to check and he had to sign a list of what was there as did
the nurse after which it was sealed and taken to a safe. The only
thing was they couldn't get her wedding ring off so they asked my
brother if he wanted it cut off and he said to leave it and had to
sign and have the nurse countersign a form saying her wedding ring
went with her. The next day when we collected the death certificate
the patient affairs officer opened the sealed pack after asking my
brother to confirm the seal was not tampered with it and everything
was once again checked off and signed by her and my brother.

The problem lies in things that can't be considered "valuable" however
valuable they might be to a member of the family. Most of the bits in
mum's drawer vanished somewhere luckily nothing sentimental (although
the strawberry lip balm I brought her the day before she died because
her lips kept drying out because of the oxygen mask and my brothers
brought her some Vaseline! One of the last things I did to give her
any pleasure was rub that strawberry lip balm on for her. I haven't
thought of that in ages) they don't get treated with the same respect.
My SIL before she met my brother had twins and one of them died when
only a few years old and she remembers being heartbroken because the
hospital "lost" his teddy he'd had with him all the time he was ill

When Dave was in hospital they had a real go because I lent him my i-
Pod and he had a  portable DVD player to pass the time. They were so
worried about these being stolen when he started to go out (It wasn't
a problem when he was bedridden) they asked us to hand them to a
member of staff who would put them away for safekeeping. We were also
advised that large amounts of cash were unwise. I gave Dave 2 pound
coins so if he wanted a paper, some sweets or a drink from the shop
trolley he could get them and when they went down I topped it up but
made sure never more than 2 pounds were in the drawer at any time

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
 
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